Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 it just isnt a big deal to me anymore.....kids are kids.....and i wouldnt want them around if they were shamed into it.....better stay away til they are ready......i had a big fight with my dad many years ago and walked out of his house and didnt speak with him for two years (two stubborn germans, if you know what i mean). after two years i kind of realized how stupid i was and went to him and got drunk with him....id love to have those two years back now that he is gone 19 years.....but again,,,c'est le vie....we live our lives as we do. i have friends here in my community, and of course i have my boat......but ya'll know about my boat cause i mention it a thousand times a year......... bob in pa --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 how come it is those closest to us that have the hardest time.... I find it very hard to think that the person I love is having a bad day, week or whatever. I know what he was once capable of doing, and he can not do it anymore. I try to "help" but not look like I am there because he can not do it alone. It is hard. ive heard others here talk of how the spouse is non-supportive or uncaring.... I work full time so that I have the insurance to help pay those medical bills. I do not want him to go without any kind of medication or not be able to see a doctor. But the funny (not really) thing is I am the one on the meds to keep it all together! When had his last surgery I told him that if I could give him my heart to make him well again I would do it in a second. We will be moving to shore soon and it will kill me to be on land after 13 years, but he says it is for the best. He finds himself unable to walk the dock and is it a little crazy taking him off by stretcher. GailPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Ok Bob........here it is... Will you marry me? Lol (like you want to raise kids again) You are definitely one of a kind and it is refreshing to see a man who is so in touch with himself and others. in CA Re: Venting hi sharon,,,nice letter, and god bless you...how come it is those closest to us that have the hardest time....ive heard others here talk of how the spouse is non-supportive or uncaring....ive been single a long time so i cant imagine what it must be like.... when i got sick my kids kind of disappeared and havent heard from either one in almost a year now......c'est le vie....... bob in pa---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 But the great things Bob is you can hear from us any day at any hour we are here. sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Bob.... > ive been single a long time so i cant imagine what it must be like.... > when > i got sick my kids kind of disappeared and havent heard from either > one in > almost a year now......c'est le vie....... Tell ya what. Give us their names/addys., and we biddies will track them down and shame them into the ground! Am not a Jewish mother, but i could sure play one on TV! What a shame. ((((((BOB))))))) Sue -- " She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. " -- Mark Twain Rich and Sue Owens http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html http://www.nothnbut.net/~reo77/aurora.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Gail...... > I work full time so that I have the insurance to help pay > those medical bills. I do not want him to go without any > kind of medication or not be able to see a doctor. But the > funny (not really) thing is I am the one on the meds to keep > it all together! > > > > Well, that ain't so funny tho, is it? Bless your heart. > > I work FT too, while my husband Rich is the ICD 'patient'. > Can > I vent? Well, I've bitched about the same thing over and > over on > this list. He doesn't give a sh*t about his health. Still > drinking, > still smoking. He's gained over 30 lbs. since his implant > Jan. 01. > He was already at least 50 lbs. overweight when he received > his ICD. It's MY paycheck he's spending at the bar. I've > tried to get > him to go for easy walks with me, anything to get him off > his butt. > Hell, he won't even walk to the mailbox to get the mail (50 > yds.) > Gets it via his truck when he comes home from the bar. He's > perfectly capable of walking to the mailbox, btw. > > How much can you care, before you shut down? I still > do love him, of course. But now it's self-defense time. > I throw my caring and life into the things that will save > ME.... my children, my hobbies, my friends, my job (even > tho I hate it and its a dead-end, exc. for the paycheck and > insurance benefits.) > > What a sad thing, to have a spouse who married you despite > > your lethal health problems, and who has stood by you.... > but > you'd rather throw it away. Because the 'bar buddies' are > some- > how better. Or Ms. Budweiser is.... > Sue > -- " She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. " -- Mark Twain Rich and Sue Owens http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html http://www.nothnbut.net/~reo77/aurora.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 Bob... his was non-hodgkins - Defuse, Large Cell, B Cell type, 3rd stage... he was dx almost 7 yrs to the day from when our son was dx w/lymphoma... hubby was more fortunate in that his treatments seem to have cured him of the lymphoma... he underwent a 12 wk course of chemo over a 14 wk span... you know the routine... if the blood work don't pass no treatment that week ... that happened twice, hence the extra 2 wks... cardio says it was probably the adriamycin that did it to him as well... no other cause found, but 10 yrs is a long time for it to take to do the damage she thinks it did... like the saying goes... what doesn't kill us makes us stronger! CONGRATS on boat going over!!!... ours will be in water by Monday... would have been sooner but we're in a new marina this year and they say not 'til the 15th ... it's ready to go ... the waiting is torture ... HAPPY BOATING TO YOU!!! JES in NJ God Bless America Dreams begin with a simple thought and in time they grow. > hi jes,, > > i think maybe your husband and i are cousins from way back,,,i did the > lymphoma thing in 94-95. > > i had the lucky one (if you can call it that) hodgkins......7 months of > chemo and ive been fine ever since.....but im told it was the adriamycin > that contributed big time to my troubles of today..... > > what the heck,,,im still alive, right........ > > and ive changed my mind.....boat goes in next week.....ill crawl up the > ramp on my hands and knees if i have to.... > > bob in pa > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2002 Report Share Posted April 12, 2002 No problem on that one Bob. hi gail,,,,i should have specifically mentioned that you werent included in that group....we have talked a number of times and i know how supportive you are of dave.....my apologies.... bob in pa---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by IAS, an Archiventure Company]Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Dear Sharon Your letter was both a little upsetting and very supportive s well. I feel for everything that you are going through, I too share all the same symptoms, memory loss, exhaustion, anxious etc/etc/ It seems that many of us are going through the same thing and also have the same over anxious personality. It was good that you were able to vent not only for yourself, but for all of us who think we are alone, Thank you for the suggestion of doing something good for ourselves daily, I hope I remember (understanding my memory has had better days). I think that is very uplifting and gives us some sort of goal. It would be wonderful if we would all share how we cope with our condition My is drugs, and I am very grateful. When I feel I am going to get anxious about an event or just plain anxiety about me or something else. I pop and ativan, not very strong .5 mil, and it really helps. The MD also put me on Celexa, for which I am eternally grateful because I do not think I could pull this period alone. I had a pretty rough time two months ago, (to be discussed at another time, because when I discuss this in the evening before going to bed, I will get anxious and I try to take as few ativans as I can, So far I am doing pretty good, none today} I really hope that you reconsider your resignation, you are a tremendous asset. to all of us. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Dear Gail, You sound like a wonderful loving person, the kind that makes the world a better place. Your Dave is a very lucky man. I have stoppped trying to make excuses for Don's behavior and just realize it is the type person he is. I try to believe that he just doesn't know how to give what I need. I think sometimes it is hard for those we love to fill us up. That is why we need to take control of ourselves and learn to take what we need. Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 This must be my self pity week. Or maybe I am just deeper in the hole than I realized. I feel that life has dealt me more than my share but then again who am I to judge. If any of you have read Dave Pelizers book. The Lost Child, or The Boy called It, well just change the names in the book from masculine to femmine and you got my life story. Although when my Mom died none of cared nodu went I am jsut know at 56 learning let go and forgive. It has been a bitter lesson. Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Dear Sue, I am sending you a hug and some tissues. A bright smile, a strong shoulder some soft fuzzy slippers and a good cup of tea in a beautiful China cup with a matching saucer. Would you like to give him one lump or two I mean would you like one lump or two in your tea dear. Smiles and Hugs Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2002 Report Share Posted April 13, 2002 Hi janet; I am sorry if it is my memory but if you are new to the group welcome home. if not blame it on my memory please and i appologize, let us know where you live we'll come and clean. TURK >From: " Janet " <jifrance@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Venting >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:52:51 -0700 > >I am 48 years old and four years post-implant. I had a cardiac arrest, and >am lucky to be (relatively) whole. But I am so tired of being tired! I >work full-time, which I love, and I am paying for my son to go to college, >so I need to work. But my house is always a mess. It would be a real >strain on our budget to get a housekeeper, and I'm too embarrassed to let >anyone see what a mess this house is in anyway. I don't have friends over >to the house--not only is it a mess, but generally by the time I get off >work I'm too tired to be decent company. I am still having a hard time >admitting to myself that I can not do it all, but I am reaching the point >where I know something is going to have to give. > >(Thanks for letting me vent.) janet _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Sharon..... > cup with a matching saucer. Would you like to give him one lump or > two I > mean would you like one lump or two in your tea dear. Why, thank you! He'll take three lumps, how kind of you to offer. I just gave him 'the talk'. Said 'we all have choices to make, and they come with consequences. I can't make you stop going to the damn [well, i said something that starts with 'f', but you get the drift] bar everyday. I can't make you lose weight and eat right, or walk with me for exercise. I can't save your life, can only save mine. If you continue on this course of self-destruction, *I* have no choice but to distance myself from you for self-preservation. Already i feel a lot less close to you than when we got married [3.5 yrs. ago]. Your choice'. He just grunted. Sigh. But i feel better for having said it, and will do what i have to do. MY life must go on.... still have 2 girls to raise. And my birds who need me. And my family, and my own self too. Sue -- " She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. " -- Mark Twain Rich and Sue Owens http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html http://www.nothnbut.net/~reo77/aurora.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Sue: I commend you on your attitude of self preservation. I know how hard it must be for you but you have to take care of yourself now. Hang in there and know that there are many of us who hope things change. If not we are here to support you with whatever you go thru. Re: Venting Sharon.....> cup with a matching saucer. Would you like to give him one lump or> two I> mean would you like one lump or two in your tea dear. Why, thank you! He'll take three lumps, how kind of you to offer. I just gave him 'the talk'. Said 'we all have choices to make, andthey come with consequences.I can't make you stop going to the damn [well, i said something thatstarts with 'f', but you get thedrift] bar everyday. I can't make you lose weight and eat right, or walkwith me for exercise. Ican't save your life, can only save mine. If you continue on this courseof self-destruction, *I* haveno choice but to distance myself from you for self-preservation. Alreadyi feel a lot less close to youthan when we got married [3.5 yrs. ago]. Your choice'. He just grunted.Sigh. But i feel better forhaving said it, and will do what i have to do. MY life must go on....still have 2 girls to raise. Andmy birds who need me. And my family, and my own self too. Sue--"She was not quite what you would call refined.She was not quite what you would call unrefined.She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot."-- Mark TwainRich and Sue Owenshttp://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.htmlhttp://www.nothnbut.net/~reo77/aurora.htmlPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Dear Sue, Hey, just sent out three large lumps of coal, I mean sugar your way. Sometimes just being able to tell them what is on your mind helps ease our fears. I have been able to get Don to half listen at least he stays a awake. Or should I say he sets a looks at me with is eyes wide open. then when I am through he gets up lights a cigeratte and blows smoke in my face. He a two pack a day man with a terrible cough but society is not telling him what is good for him. How old are your girls? What type of birds do you have or watch. do you have other hobbies? Sharon in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Sharon..... > through he gets up lights a cigeratte and blows smoke in my face. Hmmm. Reminds me of the guy with the dieting wife who brings her ice cream. > He a two > pack a day man with a terrible cough but society is not telling him > what is > good for him. Oh, i got that 2-pack-a-day thing going too. Hey, Don, you idiot! Yer gonna die, and so am i. Well, we all are..... but OUR deaths won't be quick and painless. Unlike our heart patient friends and spouses. We should both stop living in denial, eh? > > How old are your girls? What type of birds do you have or watch. do > you > have other hobbies? I have five chilluns.... Oldest (son) is 27. He has a son. Next one (daughter) is 24. She has 3 children, but sadly gave one up for adoption last month. Pls. don't ask. I can't talk about that yet. Next is son, 20. In college, no kids. Then daughter 16, and daughter who will be 15 in a couple wks. And a heart (step) daughter, who just turned 12. She only comes here every other weekend, sadly..... she's a cool young lady. We have parrots. (see link below for their pix and info.) Tons of wild birds around here, which we put feeders out for. Chickadees, finches, wood peckers (shuddup, Bill!), cardinals, etc. And hawks. I haven't made a feeder for them yet. Just can't imagine a little platform with a live mouse tied to it. Oh, and wild turkeys too. When the flock came around, they gathered round me and ate the corn i spread around me...... awesome! My husband (ex-hunter) said he'd never seen the like. Work FT, as a cook for a county jail. Interesting place. But boring work. Good pay and benefits, tho. I like reading, computers, science stuff, fishing, camping, sewing, needlework (exc. my eyes have decided that it's time for retirement so i don't do much of that anymore), my faith and learning more about it.. Okay.... i spilled my beans.... time for you to spill yers. Sue -- " She was not quite what you would call refined. She was not quite what you would call unrefined. She was the kind of person that keeps a parrot. " -- Mark Twain Rich and Sue Owens http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Meadows/7457/index3.html http://www.nothnbut.net/~reo77/aurora.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Terri, I can relate, our neighbors have three boys, all teenagers. They would not too bad but they like to trespass onto our land and drop all their junk there as well, (this being a gully with a creek in it between our houses) would be a nice little get away if I could figure out how to keep them out without having to put a 6 ft privacy fence all the way around it. And they stole stuff from our patio last summer, luckly we caught them in the act or we would not have known. They did restitution (if you can call it that)... they had to help rake our yard but according to the cops ONLY if they wanted to, which sucked ... but two out of the three did come over and help. But anyhow I can relate *hugs* Ayosdi Waya (PS .. my nickname is KJ) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Hi Ayosdi, It's good you got at least 2 of the boys to help out... maybe somewhere deep down inside it had some sort of an effect on them. It may not show now, but maybe some day it will hit them. It's going to be a rough summer here I can tell. What's with the kids no a days? When we were growing up your neighbors land was THEIR land... you didn't dare go on it even if they told you it was ok and even then you didn't feel right and asked every darn time you wanted cut through or to get stray kickball or something. My dad had 5 acres that backed up to a golf course so there was little need to go beyond our hedge rows, but darn it... we made sure it was ok to do so. We had an ongoing invite from the neighbors to use their yard for any major kickball games or anything like that from the first day we moved in... Dad had a ton of apple and pear trees and no area that was big enough for our big games. They had the same amount of land front to back and double the size side to side without a single tree anywhere. They were also never able to have kids and said the more friends I brought over the better... they really enjoyed watching us play. BUT we knocked on the door and let them we would be out back every time we used their field. I'm bring my son up the same way and any friend he brings over has to go by my rules. Maybe I'm making a difference with at least 4 little boys in the world today. No cutting through the neighbors yard..no riding your bike in someone else's driveway... no loud yelling... if you need to talk to me and your in the front yard and I'm in the back you come and talk to me otherwise if your yelling there better be a reason and there better be blood showing! lol No making the dog bark for no reason... and you call the neighbors by Mr and Mrs.... not Marg and Bob or Yo lol Funny.... the school system here has set up a value thing.... each month is a new value the kids will learn about during the month... respect... courtesy.... responsibility. There seems to be a lot of kids not paying attention in school or the schools aren't teaching this the way they say they are. Oh well... the hubby is putting in our new tub today so I'm sure I'll have plenty to keep me busy today. It needs new flooring under it so this should be tons of fun. NOT... this is the man who wouldn't go buy a saw to cut down a wooden screen door... he shaved it away with his pocket knife! MEN... and he's a darn engineer to boot! I'm sure by the time he's done I'll have something really good to pick on him about! hehe Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Terry, myneighbor is turning out to be a dud too . She wont even let her little girl play with my little girl anymore and thats pretty sad. I think she has brainwashed her into thinking mean predjudice thoughts about anyone she dosnt like how they live or something like that. Oh well. Shaye Venting Well Colleen got yesterdays vent on the phone... not really a vent, but I needed another parents advice about something LOL .... guess I'll post this mornings vent to the list as I'm fuming mad and everyone else here is still asleep and when I tried to discuss this with the dog she just looked at me like " Lady... you know I don't understand a word you're saying... got a bone for me?.. huh? huh? pant... pant...don't I look cute... look I can jump like a poodle... boing...boing " Dogs! She's a black lab that bounces like a poodle! LOL I've already had my first 2 cups of coffee and chain smoked my usual first 2 cigs, fed the fish... watered the cat( a few nights ago the cat watered herself in the fish tank! LOL that's another story). In other words... I'M WIDE AWAKE!! There are no kids to get on the bus for school, no hubby to get out the door for work and I don't have to baby sit until at least 10am. No, the family isn't gone... THEY are still sleeping! Why? because it's SATURDAY right? yep... I even checked the calendar to make sure as my coffee perked this morning. I usually don't crawl out of bed on Saturdays until the phone rings and I hear KJ on the other end saying " Terri?... I'm on my way over... ok?... Bye " that's the boy I watch... he walks through the back yards to get here.. his yard to our yard.... not far at all... calls before he leaves the house and then once here, calls his mom to let her know he made it here ok. So why am I awake? *GROWL* at 6:03 am I was awakened by the sound of a very LOUD Harley son starting up next door!! NOW here's the thing... there are no motorcycles allowed in the park and there are signs stating this at every entrance.(the park can do this as it's considered private property) My Hubby has a motorcycle.. a 1997 Kawasaki ZX6 ... one of those lean forward type bikes where you lay on the gas tank almost as you drive it. He has to push it in and out of the park when he rides it. His isn't a small bike either. Weighing close to 700 pounds. *note* just for comparison a 2 door GeoMetro weighs around 1100 pounds* Hubby says it's a small price to pay to ride his bike and hasn't complained once... after all we really shouldn't have it here anyway... he's allowed to have it because he has agreed to walk it in and out. His bike is quieter than our lawnmower!! So here's the scoop on the people next door. I USED to baby sit for the lady. We WERE friends until she got her new boyfriend (funny how a man can change someone so quick) and with the new boy friend came his idiot brother who also lives in the park and is the prime suspect in an attempt to blow up several cars parked in our driveway... I'm sure that wasn't the intention... blowing up our cars, but the police are looking at it that way because the day before my hubby had a one gallon gas can in the back of his truck and the explosive .... which we think was 1/4 stick of dynamite aka in fireworks terms a pineapple.(they will arrest anyone who had anything to do with it and it's being treated as felony) This was pay back for me complaining to the park about his loud music and cussing " F** them ALL... I want to p**s them off!! " a few days before as he was parked in the middle of the street in front of the neighbors house. He's been tormenting all the neighbors for months because so many have complained about him. There's more I could add here... like how the park manager had to talk to the neighbors boyfriend about his teen age daughter.... seems there have been numerous complaints from on the other side of the park as to her actions in public.... seems the last straw was her almost having complete sex in the road a few nights ago! Man... do I live in trailer park or what??? LOL ok I'm laughing so I'm feeling a bit better. Anyway... you can see what I'm dealing with here ...him bringing in his motorcycle was no surprise. I think he had visited the lady next door on it a few times last summer. We were kinda waiting for it to show up. There is no regard for rules or courtesy from the house next door any more. The kids run wild through people yards and I can guarantee if they were to fall and get hurt in someone's yard... even though they aren't suppose to be there, they would be crying hurt and calling a lawyer in a heart beat. The park manager is saying " I've talked to them. They tell me they are buying a house. If we can all just hang in there they will be moving in a few months. If I were to take this to the lawyer the whole process to get them out would take longer than they are saying they will be here. Lets all just be patient " How much BS does the neighborhood have to put up with in the mean time???? My first thought was to call the park manager at 6:03 this morning!! Why not share the rude awakening with someone else right?? But then I thought... 92 times out of 100 she is here on Saturdays and I'm sure she will be getting many complaints from other people on the this street about the motorcycle. Today is the first of the month so she will want to empty the drop box of rent checks too. Guess I'll stop down and talk to her later today. Maybe get with a few of the other neighbors and go as a group. I can hear the reply to the park manager though from them if she were to talk to them about it... But there's a motorcycle over there " meaning our house! *grumble* Right at this exact moment as I listen to the older teen girl yelling and screaming at the younger 2 over there I'm going to close this e-mail and have more coffee.... it's going to be pleasant day here I can tell already *sigh* Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Hi , Thanks for your kind works... Trailer parks can be tough to live in. And according to the manager even tougher to get someone removed than an apartment. We rent the lot, but we own our trailers so there is a ton more involved than tacking a 30 day notice on their door. Because of the state regs on trailer moving you have to give them 90 days to set up the proper permits for transporting, finding a new park to park their home in, permits from the town they will be moving to and getting a transport company. At the tune of about $2500. when it's done. Anyway.... I'm sure the manager will have more than me complaining today. You would think though she could at least officially send them a final warning for some of the stuff that's been going. Make it seem like she is willing take further action if needed or something. She lets some folks walk all over her and then other times she can be one tough cookie! Thanks again, Terri -- Venting Awww Terri, I'm so sorry you have to deal with that...bad neighbors are definitely a pain in the a**. I hope you and your other neighbors can get some action started to get him out of there. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Shaye, That's sad.... you have to bring your kids up to think that no 2 people are the same... that everyone is different or they will have a tough life. There are kids I don't allow my son to play with, but they really and mean REALLY have to be bad.... like the little 10 year old girl who kept kissing all the boys... pulling up her shirt to them and she would touch their private areas Ok thats a bit much to me and the boys had had enough of it and said they didn't like what she did and that they didn't want to play with her. I talked to her and told her little girls should not be doing these sort of things... it wasn't proper and gave her a second change, but it only lasted for one weekend. She is now hanging out with that crowd where the teen girl was almost doing it in the road. To talk to the little girls father gets you no where... she visits him on the weekends and hangs out at his buddys trailer drinking all weekend. Ohhhh trailer park life is such a joy! LOL Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Yea, I really dont understand exactly what her big beef is but whatever.... Not even like its even a racial issue. Her daughter has told my daughter (Shaina) that her mother told her that she hates my daughter. Why? God knows. I look at my baby ( yea ok, she is 9 now) and think how can you hate her (yea sometimes she is can make you nuts with the ADHD thing and all but still)! And why in Gods name would you tell you kids that and feed them that poisonous attitude! None of it makes any sense. WEll, we just ignore them back. Im sorry you have to deal with all that crap in your trailer park. Sheesh, sounds like most of those kids parents need to take a parenting class instead of partying. This 10 year old girl is learning this behaviour from someplace! Shaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Jeepers Terri! You guys need to move to the country!! LOL! My neighbors are sooooo quiet, and they are fun to watch. Bambi & her mom were chasing each other all over the backyard yesterday in that awful rain storm. Then you have the occasional flock of wild turkeys wandering thru the backyard. The bunnies are more abundant this year. The baby robins are practically pushing each other out of the holly bush they are getting so big. And the woodchucks have a couple of babies wandering around the side yard! Gotta love my neighbors!!! LOL! ===== Colleen ston Country Meadow Creations http://www.countrymeadowcreations.com __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Terri, I was going to suggest the same thing as Colleen. You really need to move to the country. The loudest thing around here is my mouth and a baby starling I'm raising. I've made sure in a nice way that my neighbors know I like to keep to myself and don't enjoy company. lol Good luck, Terri. I'm sure you'll need it to keep sane there! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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