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Hi ,

You might tap on yourself about your own emotions about your child

spitting up.

Even though I am concerned about my child not getting enough

nourishment......

Eventhough all this spitting up causes so much extra work.....

Some tappin in this way may help you clear to better sense what to

tap on for your child.

For the ringing in your ears you might try if it resonates:

Even though My Dad and Uncles have ringing in their ears and I

expect to have it too.....

Even though my whole family has this genetic ringing in their ears

and to be part of the family I have to have ringing in my ears....

Just some suggestions

LeRoy

>

> Hello!

3. I have had a lifetime of ringing in the ears. It seems to be

a genetic thing because my Dad and Uncles all have it too. I have

tried the " Even though I have ringing in my ears... " but that

didn't seem to help.

>

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

> L.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You wrote:

> I have treated myself for chocolate so many times.

> I've tried treating it with a chocolate vial,

> a caffeine vile, chocolate itself,

> individual candy bars, but yet it doesn't seem to take.

I expect that you will get many excellent suggestions from others on this

list, however if you are still having trouble with EFT, I would suggest

taking a look at TAT (http://www.tat-intl.com). I've had much more success

with TAT on allergies than EFT (I do use EFT for other issues). Some of the

things that I've been able to treat with TAT that I couldn't with EFT

include bread (other wheat such as pasta was OK), coffee, coke and tea.

Cheers,

Alistair.

[Guest guest]

-On other lists they have done polling on blood types, off hand don't

recall the final results, but the at birth hep b is the kicker for your

son most likely the cause. My son was the only one of my 4 kdis to get

it at week two, the others were at the earliest 3 months old before

vaccines started.He is the only one with problems since then.-- In

EOHarm , " Ronda " <rmetzger@b...> wrote:

> Hi My name is Ronda and I a have just joined and started reading

> through the archives. Relating to the birth months and years. My son

> was born in May of 1997. I noticed at least one reference to

> blood type. My son is O+ as his father and I am O- like my other two

> typically developing sons ages 12 (born in 1993) and 4 (born in 2000).

> Has there been any discussion on the relevance, if any,of blood type

> as a factor in the body's detox mechanism or the body's initial

> exposure and reaction to environmental toxins including mercury in

> vaccines? My 7 year old was also the only one of my 3 sons to receive

> the Hep B vaccine in the hospital just hours after his birth. My

> oldest did not receive that vaccine until entering Kiindergarten and

> the youngest had at least a couple weeks prior to receiving that first

> Hep B. would have been exposed to mercury in utero from the

> Rho-gam shot but my youngest would have also. My son is prone to

> allergies including skin rashes that just won't go away no matter what

> we try...they look like goose flesh and we were even once sent to the

> lab to have the rash scraped fro ecamination. I believe also related

> to the inner termoil in his body he is compelled to mouth metal

> objects in a way that to this observer resembles pica.

[Guest guest]

I have twins with asd, the smaller one gets rashes too. He was

diagnosed last august with HSP (henoch-schonlien purpura) At the time

he would get bumps that would then turn red, then purple. It's not a

rash at all but blood vessel inflammation. Ofcourse they don't know

the exact cause but say allergy to food, virus or bacterial

infection. It can also affect joints (which is what brought us to the

Dr when his knee swelled) and kidneys. He doesn't get swollen joints

anymore but the rash has never gone away and now it looks more like

what you describe when it's at it's best (at it's worst it looks like

pimples) And it ges dramatically better when he has a virus like a

cold. so I suspect something viral. Well just wanted to share my

rash story. I don't know my boys blood type but mine is O- and my

husbands is A+.

> My son is prone to

> allergies including skin rashes that just won't go away no matter

what

> we try...they look like goose flesh and we were even once sent to

the

> lab to have the rash scraped fro ecamination. I believe also related

> to the inner termoil in his body he is compelled to mouth metal

> objects in a way that to this observer resembles pica.

[Guest guest]

My son used to turn beat red, get a rash and freak out every time he had Red Dye 40. (just to make sure this was the case I rubbed food coloring on his arm and he broke out. ) Pretty easy to get out of a diet...mostly watch out for cereals and juice (and fruit snacks)

Re: New to list

I have twins with asd, the smaller one gets rashes too. He was diagnosed last august with HSP (henoch-schonlien purpura) At the time he would get bumps that would then turn red, then purple. It's not a rash at all but blood vessel inflammation. Ofcourse they don't know the exact cause but say allergy to food, virus or bacterial infection. It can also affect joints (which is what brought us to the Dr when his knee swelled) and kidneys. He doesn't get swollen joints anymore but the rash has never gone away and now it looks more like what you describe when it's at it's best (at it's worst it looks like pimples) And it ges dramatically better when he has a virus like a cold. so I suspect something viral. Well just wanted to share my rash story. I don't know my boys blood type but mine is O- and my husbands is A+. > My son is prone to> allergies including skin rashes that just won't go away no matter what> we try...they look like goose flesh and we were even once sent to the> lab to have the rash scraped fro ecamination. I believe also related> to the inner termoil in his body he is compelled to mouth metal> objects in a way that to this observer resembles pica.

[Guest guest]

Casey,

Both my dog and cat love VCO, and are very grateful

when I add adollup to their food. The benefits you are

improvements you are seeing in your cats could be

solely from the VCO.

I am intriged and wondering why you think your cats

might need GSO, and how you are able to get your cats

to consume it.

As for your own health and VCO consumption, think of

the principal of SUBSTITUTION. Use it for any cooking,

especially stir fries.

--- casey4997777 <shiers@...> wrote:

> I am new to this list and very interested in the

> benefits of coconut

> oil. I started giving a mix of coconut oil and

> grapeseed oil as a

> supplement to my cats about two weeks ago. I have

> noticed that 2 of

> my cats have noticably more energy and another one

> is improving in

> health. This is not the GSO at work since they have

> been on that

> supplement for some time now. I am intrigued by

> this and interested

> in this as a supplement for me as well. Is there a

> place I can go to

> review the various types of coconut oil that will

> help me determine

> the best brand(s)?

>

> I do have a couple of books on order, but have not

> received those

> yet. In the meantime, I have read quite of few of

> the posts here. It

> sounds like the goal might be to get 3+ tablespoons

> of VCO daily,

> although I'm not sure how to accomplish this! It

> also seems like it

> might be a good idea to start slowly and work my way

> up.

>

> Any suggestions are much appreciated!

>

> Casey

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

> I am intriged and wondering why you think your cats

> might need GSO, and how you are able to get your cats

> to consume it.

The GSO is primarily for skin and coat condition. Most of my cats

are long-haired, and this cuts down on the hairballs. I prefer it

over commercial products, which are mostly petroleum-based. I make

my own cat food, so I just add it into the recipe.

>

> As for your own health and VCO consumption, think of

> the principal of SUBSTITUTION. Use it for any cooking,

> especially stir fries.

This is where I'm struggling for 2 reasons. First, I'm a lousy cook

and I work a lot of hours, which means I don't cook much at all. I'm

now collecting recipes so I can start to add this into my diet. The

second reason is that I'm trying to find recipes where the taste of

coconut will go well with the food. One of the brands mentioned

earlier was described as very coconutty. I'm concerned about trying

to make foods that will taste good with this oil.

Casey

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara, I have a son, 16, who began having OCD back in 6th

grade. Sounds like your family has had a rough few years, a lot to

deal with.

Is she still seeing the counselor? Does the counselor (or anyone

there) understand OCD and the therapy for it (Cognitive Behavioral

Therapy with Exposure & Response Prevention - CBT with ERP)? That

is *the* best treatment for OCD. So you may want to check into this

once your daughter is on medication. Medication can help greatly

too, but OCD is usually still " there " , just a lot easier to cope

with/handle and help with therapy.

That said, we had no therapists experienced with working with OCD

around us, so I read & read, joined this great group, and we worked

on things ourselves. I'm sure my son would have made MUCH faster

progress with an actual therapist and not just " mom. "

seemed to burst with compulsions in the beginning. He had a

lot of touching, certain movements, waiting to do something until it

felt " right " or repeating until he got it " right " and I could go on

and on.... We had to get a 504 Plan for him at school to help

also.

Is she working on NOT listening to OCD any yet? Sometimes people

won't work on behaviors/thoughts if they're not feeling any distress

over them.

single mom, 3 sons

, 16, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers/autism

> Hello, I have a 13 year old daughter that has OCD. However, we

have only

> been diagnosed by our family physician and counselor. We have

been waiting

> for three months to get in to a psychiatrist. The appointment is

for July

> 11, thank God! She has been having problems for probably a couple

of years

> but we never really thought of OCD. She has had a relatively

difficult past

[Guest guest]

Thanks for responding! My daughter sees a counselor who has treated

OCD before but she there is no one here that specializes in it. The

psychiatrist that we are going to see is for kids only and is supposed to be

the best here thats why it has taken so long to get in. I have not been in

a counseling session with my daughter yet because I want her to know that

she can say whatever she needs to say to the counselor without having me

there. Her dad has not ever been interested in any kind of counseling or

psychiatric help so he doesnt even know yet anything about OCD. He thinks

you can just get over things without help. My daughter and I talked last

night about things and she thinks it is getting worse. She worries about

crying and letting anyone know what she feels. I just tell her that she can

tell me whatever she wants to and she shouldnt feel guilty about any

feelings she has, because it is okay. I told her that we will get through

this and one thing that she can be sure of is that I will always love her

and be here for her. I dont know what else to do. I wish she didnt hold

things in so much. Anyway, thanks again.

>From: " " <@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: new to list

>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:18:46 -0000

>

>Hi Barbara, I have a son, 16, who began having OCD back in 6th

>grade. Sounds like your family has had a rough few years, a lot to

>deal with.

>

>Is she still seeing the counselor? Does the counselor (or anyone

>there) understand OCD and the therapy for it (Cognitive Behavioral

>Therapy with Exposure & Response Prevention - CBT with ERP)? That

>is *the* best treatment for OCD. So you may want to check into this

>once your daughter is on medication. Medication can help greatly

>too, but OCD is usually still " there " , just a lot easier to cope

>with/handle and help with therapy.

>

>That said, we had no therapists experienced with working with OCD

>around us, so I read & read, joined this great group, and we worked

>on things ourselves. I'm sure my son would have made MUCH faster

>progress with an actual therapist and not just " mom. "

>

> seemed to burst with compulsions in the beginning. He had a

>lot of touching, certain movements, waiting to do something until it

>felt " right " or repeating until he got it " right " and I could go on

>and on.... We had to get a 504 Plan for him at school to help

>also.

>

>Is she working on NOT listening to OCD any yet? Sometimes people

>won't work on behaviors/thoughts if they're not feeling any distress

>over them.

>

>

>single mom, 3 sons

>, 16, with OCD, dysgraphia and Aspergers/autism

>

>

> > Hello, I have a 13 year old daughter that has OCD. However, we

>have only

> > been diagnosed by our family physician and counselor. We have

>been waiting

> > for three months to get in to a psychiatrist. The appointment is

>for July

> > 11, thank God! She has been having problems for probably a couple

>of years

> > but we never really thought of OCD. She has had a relatively

>difficult past

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Barbara, at least she's talking to you, I had to draw out

(nag, guess...) as he either couldn't express it or just didn't want

to talk about it. Maybe it made him anxious too. When he

first " got " OCD, he said - while crying - that he had to do those

things or something bad would happen to him. And later said he had

to get a " just right " feeling. So whenever I pried to get more info,

he was like, " I already told you!!! "

I have learned that when I notice something and ask him if it's OCD,

that if he says " no " then it's probably not. Because sometimes he

just shrugs or says maybe or he doesn't know, etc. And I've told him

that any answer besides " no " to me means it's OCD. And that's OK

with him. He's very smart in school, but with his Aspergers I wonder

if that is one reason he doesn't express all this or is it just his

personality not to want to share. I think my other sons (typical)

also might not be talkative about it either if they were dealing with

OCD.

Oh well, does no good to wonder! Just keep working on things and

being ready for any increase in OC symptoms.

I think once your daughter gets more into therapy and/or learns more

about what she needs to do (learns some tools to use), and perhaps

some medication to help lower her anxiety, that she'll do fine and

make progress! Bad thing is that this doesn't happen overnight, it

has to take time. And along with our kids, we'd all like OCD to

disappear NOW!

Even though still has some OCD issues, he's handling things

fine. His psychiatrist said to wait for therapy until he has an

increase in symptoms (yes, think we found a therapist nearby) as he's

doing OK now. So we shall see how does " med free " since

stopping the Celexa. I think it's been around 3 weeks at least now

without any. One doctor said symptoms can reappear around 3-4 months

later after stopping medication, which is why CBT therapy is so

important to have. After all this time, knows what he SHOULD

do, but I feel a therapist could motivate him more than I can, come

up with new " OCD homework, " and he'd have someone to report to/share

with other than " mom. " And hopefully progress much faster!

Your daughter knowing how well you understand what she's dealing with

will be her best comfort/support. The downside to that is that kids

can tend to " let it all out " at home and with those close to them!

But we're here for them!

> Thanks for responding! My daughter sees a counselor who has

treated

> OCD before but she there is no one here that specializes in it.

The

> psychiatrist that we are going to see is for kids only and is

supposed to be

> the best here thats why it has taken so long to get in. I have not

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm Teri and I live in Ia.I was diagnoised in 98 did treatment twice. I did regular interferon treatment and then when the Peg came out I did it! I'm a 1 A which is the hardest to treat. I did go undetectable at 6 mos. the second treatment but went right back to detectable. Now i'm just waiting to see if something else comes out. To answer your question about the blood on a tissue they don't know how long the virus can live outside of the body!

I did have some real good news I just had my viral load done within the mo nth and it went from 6 million 250,000 down to 959,000! They said congratulations but they can't explain it! Said if I had went to a differnet lab or something they would have questioned it but it's the same one I went to through all of my second treatment! The only thing I have done different since treatment is I'm taking quite a few supplements. Anyone have any thoughts on this??

Sorry I don't have any info to pass along, my computer recently died and I lost all of the stuff I had on there. But I'm sure there are some who can give you more than you will know what to do with!

tERI

new to list

Hi Everyone, my name is and I live in Pa. Was diagnosed with Hep C about 10 years ago along with Chirossis of the liver. Have not had any treatments and really don't know what stage I'm at or anything ! That will change soon because I'll be seeing a really great liver doctor whom I've been assured of will get me going on the right track. I'm sooo excited!!!! Is there a good link I can download info from to give out to my co-workers at the local animal shelter? Also a link about how long does the virus live on a bloody tissue? looking forward to any help you can give me. brenda

[Guest guest]

Welcome !

Glad you found us. Sound's like you're really looking

fwd to your doctors apt - good for you. I've been on this

msg board for sometime - diagnosed in '98 and I'm a genotype 1a

-

so I opted not to do any of the INF TXs as genotypes 1a & 1b

generally don't respond. I've done really well with certain

Supplements & Antioxidants. So yea, Teri to answer your

question

I think the supplements you've been doing most likely play a

HUGE part in that viral load dropping. Mine's come down &

stayed

down over the years and 100% normal enzymes too (AST & ALT)

RE: Blood on Surfaces

I've read that the HCV virus can 'live' on a surface for

up to 3 weeks. Bleach kills it. And I've heard that it can

not be transferred by pets (thank God!) Hope this helps.

Keep in touch & welcome again.

God Bless you.

Love,

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there are moments when the clear perception

of immortality shines through, full of peace

and joy, and an unforgettable sense of who

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[Guest guest]

Thanks !

I take fish oil, milk thistle, L-Carnitine, L-Glutamine, Vit C, Vit D, Multi Vit without Iron, B complex, Calcium, I Vites, Ginseng complete and Chromium Picolinate. My Dr. said the rest of the blood work was good. Well you take care.

Teri

Re: new to list

Welcome !Glad you found us. Sound's like you're really lookingfwd to your doctors apt - good for you. I've been on thismsg board for sometime - diagnosed in '98 and I'm a genotype 1a-so I opted not to do any of the INF TXs as genotypes 1a & 1b generally don't respond. I've done really well with certainSupplements & Antioxidants. So yea, Teri to answer yourquestionI think the supplements you've been doing most likely play aHUGE part in that viral load dropping. Mine's come down & stayeddown over the years and 100% normal enzymes too (AST & ALT)RE: Blood on SurfacesI've read that the HCV virus can 'live' on a surface forup to 3 weeks. Bleach kills it. And I've heard that it cannot be transferred by pets (thank God!) Hope this helps.Keep in touch & welcome again.God Bless you.Love,Like flashes of Spiritual lightning,there are moments when the clear perceptionof immortality shines through, full of peaceand joy, and an unforgettable sense of whowe really are! ALTERNATIVE HOPE FOR HEP c http://alternativehopeforhepc.com SCIO - Energetic Medicine http://alternativehopeepfx.com Q2 Energy Machine http://alternativehopeQ2energy.com

[Guest guest]

GREAT news Teri!

Keep up the good work!

Its soooo important to have 100% of the bloodwork

in the normal range. So good for you. You're taking

some good supplements it looks like. Antioxidants?

Have a GREAT week.

Love,

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we lose the excitement of possibilities.

Dreaming, after all, is a form of planning.

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As with the other posts, I would discourage TKP the week of

Thanksgiving. Having been a PT in acute care hospitals, there often is

no coverage on the holiday, and then scaled back over the Friday and

weekend. Worth checking into.

May would be cutting it pretty close for that strenuous a hike. I

would give yourself a year from surgery before that hike. My husband

had a THP, and one year later we were hiking in the Virgin Islands. You

will have to see how strong your knee feels come April.

Marilyn

Bill Victor wrote:

> I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see

> it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I

> expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already

> good size.

>

> When I searched , this and one other site came up. The

> other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where you

> can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those tsunamis!

>

> Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement

> Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of

> arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.

>

> Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding

> returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the

> individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc

> said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set it

> up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am

> most effective if actually in the office. Would

> like to hear some of your experiences.

>

> They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive my

> stick shift again. I guess that is typical?

>

> Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river trip

> and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a

> backpack, but termed it an " aggressive " rehab. I'm 52 and do that

> sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?

>

> Thx for any advice you can throw my way.

>

> Bill in Cave Creek, AZ

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill: Is it your left or right knee? I had my right knee done, which of course does most of the work in driving (actually ALL the work now that I no longer have a stick shift) and I could drive four weeks after the surgery. I recommend going around the block near your home a couple of times before setting out on a longer drive. You'll know right away whether you feel ready to drive or not.

As for your hike six months out, there are a lot of variables that will come into play, and one of them is how fit you are right now (other than your bad knee). I did a lot of walking as soon as I could after my TKR, and it helped enormously. One thing people sometimes forget is the issue of stamina. Major surgery makes a huge dent in your stamina. People have said right after surgery that walking to the bathroom felt like climbing Mt. Everest. It takes each person a certain period of time before they feel as strong and have as much energy as they normally did before the surgery. I've heard that the decrease in stamina is partly caused by the anesthesia during surgery, but I'm not knowledgeable about that. It would be a good thing to ask your surgeon about, however.

I agree with the other posters who have warned against Thanksgiving week. I was in the hospital over the July 4th weekend and the care was definitely diminished due to so many people being off work. For instance, I had substitute physical therapists who weren't as good as the regular people.

Good luck with everything!

SaraMarilyn <mwelton@...> wrote:

As with the other posts, I would discourage TKP the week of Thanksgiving. Having been a PT in acute care hospitals, there often is no coverage on the holiday, and then scaled back over the Friday and weekend. Worth checking into. May would be cutting it pretty close for that strenuous a hike. I would give yourself a year from surgery before that hike. My husband had a THP, and one year later we were hiking in the Virgin Islands. You will have to see how strong your knee feels come April. MarilynBill Victor wrote:> I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see> it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I> expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already> good size.>> When I searched

groups, this and one other site came up. The> other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where you> can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those tsunamis!>> Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement> Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of> arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.>> Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding> returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the> individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc> said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set it> up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am> most effective if actually in the office. Would> like to hear some of your experiences.>> They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive my> stick shift again.

I guess that is typical?>> Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river trip> and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a> backpack, but termed it an "aggressive" rehab. I'm 52 and do that> sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?>> Thx for any advice you can throw my way.>> Bill in Cave Creek, AZ>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Re: nursing staff over holidays: My daughter is an RN at a large metropolitan hospital, and according to her all nurses must work some holidays. Seniority dictates who can choose which holiday to work and which to have off. So at every holiday time there are indeed regular nursing staff working. It's not as if you would have an intern or someone who was not trained. Even interns and new resident nurses need to shadow a certified RN before they can be on their own.

Just chiming in my two cents.

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Bill: Is it your left or right knee? I had my right knee done, which of course does most of the work in driving (actually ALL the work now that I no longer have a stick shift) and I could drive four weeks after the surgery. I recommend going around the block near your home a couple of times before setting out on a longer drive. You'll know right away whether you feel ready to drive or not.

As for your hike six months out, there are a lot of variables that will come into play, and one of them is how fit you are right now (other than your bad knee). I did a lot of walking as soon as I could after my TKR, and it helped enormously. One thing people sometimes forget is the issue of stamina. Major surgery makes a huge dent in your stamina. People have said right after surgery that walking to the bathroom felt like climbing Mt. Everest. It takes each person a certain period of time before they feel as strong and have as much energy as they normally did before the surgery. I've heard that the decrease in stamina is partly caused by the anesthesia during surgery, but I'm not knowledgeable about that. It would be a good thing to ask your surgeon about, however.

I agree with the other posters who have warned against Thanksgiving week. I was in the hospital over the July 4th weekend and the care was definitely diminished due to so many people being off work. For instance, I had substitute physical therapists who weren't as good as the regular people.

Good luck with everything!

SaraMarilyn <mwelton@...> wrote:

As with the other posts, I would discourage TKP the week of Thanksgiving. Having been a PT in acute care hospitals, there often is no coverage on the holiday, and then scaled back over the Friday and weekend. Worth checking into. May would be cutting it pretty close for that strenuous a hike. I would give yourself a year from surgery before that hike. My husband had a THP, and one year later we were hiking in the Virgin Islands. You will have to see how strong your knee feels come April. MarilynBill Victor wrote:> I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see> it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I> expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already> good size.>> When I searched Y! ahoo groups, this and one other site came up. The> other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where you> can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those tsunamis!>> Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement> Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of> arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.>> Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding> returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the> individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc> said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set it> up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am> most effective if actually in the office. Would> like to hear some of your experiences.>> They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive my> stick shift agai! n. I guess that is typical?>> Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river trip> and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a> backpack, but termed it an "aggressive" rehab. I'm 52 and do that> sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?>> Thx for any advice you can throw my way.>> Bill in Cave Creek, AZ>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

Since I had TKR on my left knee, my doctor said no clutching thus no stick shift. Too hard on the joint with the nearly constant city stopping and starting. I could drive one in an emergency, but not regularly. He still wants me to find an apartment or house without the stairs, but we can't afford to move right now, so I'll deal with that. I can get up the stairs normally but I'm still having problems with being skittish going down, especially carrying the grandbaby, so I do them one at a time yet. This is slower but easier on my knee.

Take care,

renazee@... wrote:

Re: nursing staff over holidays: My daughter is an RN at a large metropolitan hospital, and according to her all nurses must work some holidays. Seniority dictates who can choose which holiday to work and which to have off. So at every holiday time there are indeed regular nursing staff working. It's not as if you would have an intern or someone who was not trained. Even interns and new resident nurses need to shadow a certified RN before they can be on their own.

Just chiming in my two cents.

Re: New to list

Bill: Is it your left or right knee? I had my right knee done, which of course does most of the work in driving (actually ALL the work now that I no longer have a stick shift) and I could drive four weeks after the surgery. I recommend going around the block near your home a couple of times before setting out on a longer drive. You'll know right away whether you feel ready to drive or not.

As for your hike six months out, there are a lot of variables that will come into play, and one of them is how fit you are right now (other than your bad knee). I did a lot of walking as soon as I could after my TKR, and it helped enormously. One thing people sometimes forget is the issue of stamina. Major surgery makes a huge dent in your stamina. People have said right after surgery that walking to the bathroom felt like climbing Mt. Everest. It takes each person a certain period of time before they feel as strong and have as much energy as they normally did before the surgery. I've heard that the decrease in stamina is partly caused by the anesthesia during surgery, but I'm not knowledgeable about that. It would be a good thing to ask your surgeon about, however.

I agree with the other posters who have warned against Thanksgiving week. I was in the hospital over the July 4th weekend and the care was definitely diminished due to so many people being off work. For instance, I had substitute physical therapists who weren't as good as the regular people.

Good luck with everything!

SaraMarilyn <mwelton@...> wrote:

As with the other posts, I would discourage TKP the week of Thanksgiving. Having been a PT in acute care hospitals, there often is no coverage on the holiday, and then scaled back over the Friday and weekend. Worth checking into. May would be cutting it pretty close for that strenuous a hike. I would give yourself a year from surgery before that hike. My husband had a THP, and one year later we were hiking in the Virgin Islands. You will have to see how strong your knee feels come April. MarilynBill Victor wrote:> I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see> it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I> expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already> good size.>> When I searched Y! ahoo

groups, this and one other site came up. The> other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where you> can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those tsunamis!>> Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement> Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of> arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.>> Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding> returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the> individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc> said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set it> up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am> most effective if actually in the office. Would> like to hear some of your experiences.>> They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive my> stick shift agai!

n. I guess that is typical?>> Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river trip> and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a> backpack, but termed it an "aggressive" rehab. I'm 52 and do that> sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?>> Thx for any advice you can throw my way.>> Bill in Cave Creek, AZ>>>>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I tried to schedule all my joint surgeries around holidays. Less

time off work for my husband to tend to me. The one surgery that was

not a holiday I had no PT anyhow. Had the revision and was home the

next day. But after both hips replaced and one revised, plus both

shoulders replaced, I knew the PT routine. PT once I was up and

about was great. Before that, not sure if I was really into it.

Sure you need to know how to use the crutches/walker and do steps,

but the hardcore stuff worked better after a few weeks.

My humble opinion.

Sue

>

> > I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see

> > it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I

> > expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already

> > good size.

> >

> > When I searched , this and one other site came up. The

> > other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where

you

> > can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those

tsunamis!

> >

> > Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement

> > Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of

> > arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.

> >

> > Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding

> > returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the

> > individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc

> > said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set

it

> > up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am

> > most effective if actually in the office. Would

> > like to hear some of your experiences.

> >

> > They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive my

> > stick shift again. I guess that is typical?

> >

> > Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river trip

> > and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a

> > backpack, but termed it an " aggressive " rehab. I'm 52 and do that

> > sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?

> >

> > Thx for any advice you can throw my way.

> >

> > Bill in Cave Creek, AZ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I can get up the stairs normally but I'm still having problems with being skittish going down, especially carrying the grandbaby, so I do them one at a time yet. This is slower but easier on my knee.

Hey , go down backwards, holding on to railing. Makes a BIG difference.

Marge

[Guest guest]

Thks for the advice. My doc is not discouraging me from the May

goal, but did say it would be " aggressive " . I may have to mule it

down. I don't want to risk it not healing properly and lasting a

long time.

As I've read going back on this list a few days. People's

experiences and expectations run the gamut. I will continue to be

foolishly optimistic, that's my weakness.

Thx,

Bill

>

> > I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see

> > it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's so I

> > expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already

> > good size.

> >

> > When I searched , this and one other site came up.

The

> > other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand where

you

> > can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those

tsunamis!

> >

> > Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement

> > Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of

> > arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.

> >

> > Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding

> > returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the

> > individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc

> > said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to set

it

> > up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed, but am

> > most effective if actually in the office. Would

> > like to hear some of your experiences.

> >

> > They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can drive

my

> > stick shift again. I guess that is typical?

> >

> > Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a river

trip

> > and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a

> > backpack, but termed it an " aggressive " rehab. I'm 52 and do that

> > sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?

> >

> > Thx for any advice you can throw my way.

> >

> > Bill in Cave Creek, AZ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

There is certainly nursing staff scheduled on all shifts, 24/7, and they

are all competent....for the most part. My emphasis is on the Therapies,

Physical and Occupational Therapy. Most hospitals do not require PT's to

work on holidays, and in smaller hospitals, there is no weekend

coverage. Or, you _might_ get someone filling in for the regulars over a

holiday weekend, who is not _as_ familiar w/ the protocols, or you_

migh_t get one tx/day instead of 2/day. It is worth asking your doc and

the Rehab Dept what their policy is for Holidays. Of course, If you have

the surgery on Monday, you will probably be home by Wednesday, and begin

your Home Health (if you qualify for homebound and insurance, etc) on

Friday after Turkey Day. If you are going straight to Out Patient P.T.,

then be sure to schedule your appoint for that Friday , way ahead of

time, for the same reasons....they will probably be short staffed over

that holiday. I would hate for you to go w/o P.T. from discharge from

the hospital until the following week. If you are highly motivated, type

A person, it will be OK, because you will be doing something

constructive during that time. In the end, it is all about your

attitude, and your willingness to work through the pain to achieve your

goal of normal ROM and strength.

Marilyn

renazee@... wrote:

> *Re: nursing staff over holidays: My daughter is an RN at a large

> metropolitan hospital, and according to her all nurses must work some

> holidays. Seniority dictates who can choose which holiday to work and

> which to have off. So at every holiday time there are indeed regular

> nursing staff working. It's not as if you would have an intern or

> someone who was not trained. Even interns and new resident nurses need

> to shadow a certified RN before they can be on their own. *

> * Just chiming in my two cents.*

>

> * Re: New to list

>

> Bill: Is it your left or right knee? I had my right knee done,

> which of course does most of the work in driving (actually ALL the

> work now that I no longer have a stick shift) and I could drive

> four weeks after the surgery. I recommend going around the block

> near your home a couple of times before setting out on a longer

> drive. You'll know right away whether you feel ready to drive or not.

> As for your hike six months out, there are a lot of variables that

> will come into play, and one of them is how fit you are right now

> (other than your bad knee). I did a lot of walking as soon as I

> could after my TKR, and it helped enormously. One thing people

> sometimes forget is the issue of stamina. Major surgery makes a

> huge dent in your stamina. People have said right after surgery

> that walking to the bathroom felt like climbing Mt. Everest. It

> takes each person a certain period of time before they feel as

> strong and have as much energy as they normally did before the

> surgery. I've heard that the decrease in stamina is partly caused

> by the anesthesia during surgery, but I'm not knowledgeable about

> that. It would be a good thing to ask your surgeon about, however.

> I agree with the other posters who have warned against

> Thanksgiving week. I was in the hospital over the July 4th weekend

> and the care was definitely diminished due to so many people being

> off work. For instance, I had substitute physical therapists who

> weren't as good as the regular people.

> Good luck with everything!

> Sara

>

> */Marilyn <mwelton@...>/* wrote:

>

> As with the other posts, I would discourage TKP the week of

> Thanksgiving. Having been a PT in acute care hospitals, there

> often is

> no coverage on the holiday, and then scaled back over the

> Friday and

> weekend. Worth checking into.

> May would be cutting it pretty close for that strenuous a hike. I

> would give yourself a year from surgery before that hike. My

> husband

> had a THP, and one year later we were hiking in the Virgin

> Islands. You

> will have to see how strong your knee feels come April.

> Marilyn

>

> Bill Victor wrote:

>

> > I just found this group and shouldn't have been surprised to see

> > it. More and more of us baby boomers are going to have TJR's

> so I

> > expect this listserver will grow leaps and bounds - it's already

> > good size.

> >

> > When I searched Y! ahoo groups, this and one other site came

> up. The

> > other one was all about having a TJRs in Phuket, Thailand

> where you

> > can rehab on the beach afterward. Just watch out for those

> tsunamis!

> >

> > Just made the decision yesterday to do a total knee replacement

> > Thanksgiving week. Open knee surgery in '71 and a couple of

> > arthroscopes since. Typical bone on bone thing with no ACL.

> >

> > Am trying to find out what is reasonable to expect regarding

> > returning to work, understanding that it depends largely on the

> > individual. I sit behind a computer most of the day. Doc

> > said it is not good to have the leg down, so I would have to

> set it

> > up on a chair or something. I could also work from my bed,

> but am

> > most effective if actually in the office. Would

> > like to hear some of your experiences.

> >

> > They said 3 days in the hospital and a month before I can

> drive my

> > stick shift agai! n. I guess that is typical?

> >

> > Told him I want to hike down the Grand Canyon to meet a

> river trip

> > and then float out in May. He said that should be OK without a

> > backpack, but termed it an " aggressive " rehab. I'm 52 and do

> that

> > sort of thing annually. Am I expecting too much too soon?

> >

> > Thx for any advice you can throw my way.

> >

> > Bill in Cave Creek, AZ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, everyone. I have a lot of food for thought now. I'll let you

know what I do and how it comes out.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Thanks Marge, I never thought of that. I'll try it and see what happens.

marge <palybami@...> wrote:

I can get up the stairs normally but I'm still having problems with being skittish going down, especially carrying the grandbaby, so I do them one at a time yet. This is slower but easier on my knee.

Hey , go down backwards, holding on to railing. Makes a BIG difference.

Marge God bless you!

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[Guest guest]

I didn't like that so much. My downstairs neighbor has a cat that likes to get underfoot when she's outside. If I can't see her I might fall over her so I'll just deal with one step at a time.

Bill and Canter <cindyj4652@...> wrote:

Thanks Marge, I never thought of that. I'll try it and see what happens.

marge <palybami@...> wrote:

I can get up the stairs normally but I'm still having problems with being skittish going down, especially carrying the grandbaby, so I do them one at a time yet. This is slower but easier on my knee.

Hey , go down backwards, holding on to railing. Makes a BIG difference.

Marge God bless you!

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