hello everyone

[Guest guest]

Lola

with SI joint pain, sitting usually makes it much worse, so there has to be

something else going on.

Just because they dont see much in the MRI, doesnt mean that something isnt

happening.

You need to pursue with a specialist. A Physiatrist, or a good Osteopathic MD.

Hello everyone

Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can no

longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to me

I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is swim!

I take somas to sleep..(can`t risk bending the wrong way in my

sleep.ouch)..I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me so

bad.

When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend over..I

am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my right

side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I look

in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk my

dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the only

thing that takes the pain away!

[Guest guest]

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can`t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch)..I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

[Guest guest]

I am Wanda and Im 52,for the last few days I have had alot of pain in my neck on

my left side,its a 9. Its hard to turn my head without my neck hurting. I know

that I have 2 herinated disc on the right side of my neck.also have severe

fibromyalgia and osteoporosis.also have 2 large annular bugling disc in my lower

back. last time that I had a mri was march 29-2007. also have pain in my feet

and arms real bad. fibro has been flaring real bad also. Wanda

From: mail4misha <mail4misha@...>

Subject: Re: Hello everyone

neck pain

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:51 AM

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can` t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch). .I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

[Guest guest]

How do you find a CST or Rolfer? What does Rolfer mean? I start work hardening

therapy tomorrow and maybe I can discuss this with them.

Thanks,

Re: Hello everyone

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can`t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch)..I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

[Guest guest]

To all in this group,

Is there anything about our bodies that does not freaking hurt, anyone? Is

anyone in this group that is not taking some sort of narcotic pain reliever. By

all means please speak up. For me I have actually been checking into

voluntarily becoming paralyzed from the neck down because of the ongoing high

levels of pain.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: Hello everyone

neck pain

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:51 AM

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can` t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch). .I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

[Guest guest]

oh man that is a huge decision... I share your hate of the pain but I can

not imagine not having at least some mobility. I am not sure that is a path you

really want to go down..

Tom

In a message dated 9/15/2008 5:42:31 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

raburtongdyr@... writes:

To all in this group,

Is there anything about our bodies that does not freaking hurt, anyone? Is

anyone in this group that is not taking some sort of narcotic pain reliever.

By all means please speak up. For me I have actually been checking into

voluntarily becoming paralyzed from the neck down because of the ongoing high

levels of pain.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

[PainInTheNeck-

_PainInTheNeck-PainInTheNeck-<WPain_

(mailto:neck pain )

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:51 AM

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can` t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch). .I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

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[Guest guest]

That is really not a lot of meds.. If you are not getting the pain relief

you need from this doctor you should look around. Although no doctor will

prescribe the level needed to cover your worst days you should at least be

getting

what you need to have some quality of life.

Tom

In a message dated 9/15/2008 9:56:09 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

angelbaby0580@... writes:

I was getting a truadol shot every month for pain and the last one was in

Aug. and it did nothing for me. Well I ask for something for pain and he ask me

what I wanted and I said you are the doctor and he gave me a script for

hydroco/apap5-I was getting a truadol shot every month for pain and the last one

was in take one every 12 hours no more than 2 a day. Its not much but it

helps when my pain is high like it has been for last few days. hugs Wanda

From: mail4misha <mail4misha@mail4misha>

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: Hello everyone

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:51 AM

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can` t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch). .I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

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[Guest guest]

I was getting a truadol shot every month for pain and the last one was in Aug.

and it did nothing for me. Well I ask for something for pain and he ask me what

I wanted and I said you are the doctor and he gave me a script for

hydroco/apap5-500mg tab mallinckro(it is a generic for lortab) he gave me 60

pain pills; take one every 12 hours no more than 2 a day. Its not much but it

helps when my pain is high like it has been for last few days.  hugs Wanda

From: mail4misha <mail4misha (DOT) com>

Subject: [PainInTheNeck- Back] Re: Hello everyone

PainInTheNeck- Back@groups .com

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 9:51 AM

Have you tried seeing a Cranial Sacral Therapist (CST) and/or a

Rolfer? Muscles can pinch nerves and cause this kind of pain. If the

problem isn't structural, it my be in the way you are moving. A

rolfer can realign you (warning, this isn't pleasant and takes more

than one visit but it works for many people). I get a similar pain

and my CST usually manages to help me get rid of it. That said, I've

had something going on with my outer buttock/hip for months now that

she and I are dumbfounded by. I may need a rolfer myself!

>

> Thankyou for the warm wellcome..

> I have a pain in my right buttocks...After 5 months of this..I can

no

> longer walk ..I have had an MRI, EMG, X-ray of the hips..The spine

> doctor can`t diagnose what the problem is..Before this happened to

me

> I was very active..I can`t do anything anymore..All I can do is

swim!

> I take somas to sleep..(can` t risk bending the wrong way in my

> sleep.ouch). .I can`t take pain killers because they constipate me

so

> bad.

> When I get up after the second hour .I am down ..I can`t bend

over..I

> am 59 now,,,I looked at my MRI..The Doc did say It could be my

> Sacraliliac joint...All I know is I can`t put any pressure on my

right

> side..I can`t walk..and since this my pelvic gait is changing I

look

> in the mirror and i see a lop-sided body..

> I feel like nothing these days..Can`t even prepare dinner or walk

my

> dog..I have a board in my car to sit on..Because sitting is the

only

> thing that takes the pain away!

>

[Guest guest]

I had a similar situation.  My back was injured from a fall but that same l5-s1

area bugged me for years.  Two surgeries brought me outta some pain but I had

trouble still.  I even dragged around my foot.  I met Dr. Stark in Minneapolis

and he is a miracle worker.  He fixed me with an A/P fusion.  I can pick my foot

up and walk normal with no pain at all from my back short of lil twinges once in

a great while I am doing better than I have ever.

He told me that alot of this type of thing gets misdiagnosed.  If you haven't

had it fused, do not be scared of it.  It's no harder than any other back

surgery but worth the outcome.

The other thing is ask about the A/P fusion.  It is this cage like thing he

used.

I wish you luck, I know these things are hard.

Matt

________________________________

From: frazmandemo <frazmandemo@...>

neck pain

Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:55:47 PM

Subject: hello everyone

hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area twice.i have a

lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have ddd.i have had it for a

while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up in a wheelchair.

[Guest guest]

I had a similar situation.  My back was injured from a fall but that same l5-s1

area bugged me for years.  Two surgeries brought me outta some pain but I had

trouble still.  I even dragged around my foot.  I met Dr. Stark in Minneapolis

and he is a miracle worker.  He fixed me with an A/P fusion.  I can pick my foot

up and walk normal with no pain at all from my back short of lil twinges once in

a great while I am doing better than I have ever.

He told me that alot of this type of thing gets misdiagnosed.  If you haven't

had it fused, do not be scared of it.  It's no harder than any other back

surgery but worth the outcome.

The other thing is ask about the A/P fusion.  It is this cage like thing he

used.

I wish you luck, I know these things are hard.

Matt

________________________________

From: frazmandemo <frazmandemo@...>

neck pain

Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:55:47 PM

Subject: hello everyone

hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area twice.i have a

lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have ddd.i have had it for a

while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up in a wheelchair.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I just wanted to let you know your not a lone ,I also have ddd and spondileitis 

" spelled wrong " and pinched nerves,herniated disc,stenois and so on.I'm 59 and

it seems I keep gettinng worse and worse,and I get so mad because  Dr's just

sort of pass you around and give you the run around about surgery or not

surgery,sorry you have a lot of pain and hopefully you can get some relief

somehow.I have a neck surgery c5-to c6 I think

about 2 years a go and need it again and something done to stabalize my low back

some my bladder,bowels, and legs can have some relief,but I'm afraid of what a

surgeru would do??? Good luck and I pray you get some help.What medicines did

they give you to take.?Shirley

From: frazmandemo <frazmandemo@...>

Subject: hello everyone

neck pain

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:55 PM

hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area twice.i

have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have ddd.i have had it for a

while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up in a wheelchair.

[Guest guest]

Hi

I just wanted to let you know your not a lone ,I also have ddd and spondileitis 

" spelled wrong " and pinched nerves,herniated disc,stenois and so on.I'm 59 and

it seems I keep gettinng worse and worse,and I get so mad because  Dr's just

sort of pass you around and give you the run around about surgery or not

surgery,sorry you have a lot of pain and hopefully you can get some relief

somehow.I have a neck surgery c5-to c6 I think

about 2 years a go and need it again and something done to stabalize my low back

some my bladder,bowels, and legs can have some relief,but I'm afraid of what a

surgeru would do??? Good luck and I pray you get some help.What medicines did

they give you to take.?Shirley

From: frazmandemo <frazmandemo@...>

Subject: hello everyone

neck pain

Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:55 PM

hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area twice.i

have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have ddd.i have had it for a

while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up in a wheelchair.

[Guest guest]

the medicine takes the edge of,but not by much.i also drag my left foot. " foot

drop " or whatever they call it.i have lost feeling in my thigh as

well.apparently,it all started when i broke my neck at age 12.i have a ton of

pro blems in my neck and lower back.my doctor said surgey will only make it

worse.so i am just trying to go one day at a time.but thanks for the support.---

In neck pain , Shirley Kurburski <skurburski@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I just wanted to let you know your not a lone ,I also have ddd and

spondileitis  " spelled wrong " and pinched nerves,herniated disc,stenois and so

on.I'm 59 and it seems I keep gettinng worse and worse,and I get so mad because 

Dr's just sort of pass you around and give you the run around about surgery or

not surgery,sorry you have a lot of pain and hopefully you can get some relief

somehow.I have a neck surgery c5-to c6 I think

> about 2 years a go and need it again and something done to stabalize my low

back some my bladder,bowels, and legs can have some relief,but I'm afraid of

what a surgeru would do??? Good luck and I pray you get some help.What medicines

did they give you to take.?Shirley

>

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> From: frazmandemo <frazmandemo@...>

> Subject: hello everyone

> neck pain

> Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:55 PM

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the medicine takes the edge of,but not by much.i also drag my left foot. " foot

drop " or whatever they call it.i have lost feeling in my thigh as

well.apparently,it all started when i broke my neck at age 12.i have a ton of

pro blems in my neck and lower back.my doctor said surgey will only make it

worse.so i am just trying to go one day at a time.but thanks for the support.---

In neck pain , Shirley Kurburski <skurburski@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I just wanted to let you know your not a lone ,I also have ddd and

spondileitis  " spelled wrong " and pinched nerves,herniated disc,stenois and so

on.I'm 59 and it seems I keep gettinng worse and worse,and I get so mad because 

Dr's just sort of pass you around and give you the run around about surgery or

not surgery,sorry you have a lot of pain and hopefully you can get some relief

somehow.I have a neck surgery c5-to c6 I think

> about 2 years a go and need it again and something done to stabalize my low

back some my bladder,bowels, and legs can have some relief,but I'm afraid of

what a surgeru would do??? Good luck and I pray you get some help.What medicines

did they give you to take.?Shirley

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[Guest guest]

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20Back%\

20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

[Guest guest]

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20Back%\

20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

" Helping Birds Find People "

Re: hello everyone

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

ack%20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

" Helping Birds Find People "

Re: hello everyone

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

ack%20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

" Helping Birds Find People "

Re: hello everyone

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

ack%20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

" Helping Birds Find People "

Re: hello everyone

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

ack%20Pain%20Stories/

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

If this accident that you had was not your fault you need to see a lawyer

to specializes in accidental insurance issues.. Money is the least thing you

should have to worry about to get back to a sate of relative health..

Tom

In a message dated 4/15/2009 11:56:13 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

joyfulfeathers@... writes:

Hi Dave,

I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and

one

was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and

assessment

for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So

much

that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it

helps

with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get

me

one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason

my

lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last

October.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

" Helping Birds Find People "

Re: [Pa

At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

_http://health.http://healthhttp://heahttp://health.http://healhttp://healht

t_

(neck pain/files/Neck%20 & %20B)

ack%20Pain%20Storieac

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

------------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Hey i have had this. REALLY! I'm not kidding. My chiro fixes thoracic outlet in

a few visits. We have even talked about it, because of you. I told him about

you. theres no reason a good chiro cant fix this fast. Seriously. I couldnt move

my arm. fixed in two visits. Then it did take about three weeks for it to

totally feel perfect.It imediately felt better and then low grade pain slowly it

left all together.

Occasionally it comes back. Like once a year, and he fixes it again. gone.

really. I remember you had a chiro, cant he fix it? Its not that tricky a

maneuver, i could almost do it. cindy-- In neck pain ,

" JW " <joyfulfeathers@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Dave,

>

> I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

> diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

> started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

> hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

> was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

> for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

> far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

> again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

> that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

> living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

> with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

> one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

> shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

> some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

> band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

> pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

> popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

> unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

> or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

> lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

> which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

> problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

>

>

> Joi

> Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

> Max, Blue Front Amazon

> Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

> Artemis, Painted conure

> Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

> Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

> & Padme', rosirfons conure

> " Helping Birds Find People "

>

> Re: hello everyone

>

> At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>

>

> >hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

> >twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

> >ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

> >in a wheelchair.

>

> Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

> home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

> then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

> am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

>

> neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

> ack%20Pain%20Stories/

>

> I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

> 1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

> in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

> 2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

> new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

> a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

> bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

> woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

> chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

> loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

> have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

> of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

> been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

>

> Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

> listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey i have had this. REALLY! I'm not kidding. My chiro fixes thoracic outlet in

a few visits. We have even talked about it, because of you. I told him about

you. theres no reason a good chiro cant fix this fast. Seriously. I couldnt move

my arm. fixed in two visits. Then it did take about three weeks for it to

totally feel perfect.It imediately felt better and then low grade pain slowly it

left all together.

Occasionally it comes back. Like once a year, and he fixes it again. gone.

really. I remember you had a chiro, cant he fix it? Its not that tricky a

maneuver, i could almost do it. cindy-- In neck pain ,

" JW " <joyfulfeathers@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Dave,

>

> I noticed you said you have thoracic pain...do you or have you been

> diagnosed with thoracic outlet syndrome? The PT guy I'm going to now (just

> started last Friday) thinks I have that on both sides and/or CRPS (which I

> hope I DON'T have!). Moving slowly at PT. I've only been three times and one

> was an assessment for my neck area and the next was treatment and assessment

> for my lower back. I have to say this guy did the most thorough exam so

> far...more thorough than ALL the docs combined! PT has made my ears ring

> again...today really loud! My shoulders, arms, and hands hurt a LOT. So much

> that it's hard to type and work on the computer; which is what I do for a

> living. They have me using a fancy traction machine for my neck. If it helps

> with the headaches, he says he will write to the doc and insurance to get me

> one of my own. It has helped with the headaches but made my neck and

> shoulders, arms, and hands worse. There is a PT intern that has been doing

> some assessment and he thinks my lower back and hip pain is from a tight IT

> band. Problem is...the lower back pain is from POST accident. The outer hip

> pain is likely from the tight IT band, but I also have hip joint pain,

> popping, and catching. They don't want to bring in the hip and knee stuff

> unless it's related to the car accident, so those will be either unofficial

> or dealt with later. I probably need to push a little more for the reason my

> lower back hurts. He did say I was too flexible and my joints are loose

> which will cause problems. Even when I was working out I still had that

> problem but didn't have lower back pain until after we got hit last October.

>

>

> Joi

> Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

> Max, Blue Front Amazon

> Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

> Artemis, Painted conure

> Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

> Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

> & Padme', rosirfons conure

> " Helping Birds Find People "

>

> Re: hello everyone

>

> At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>

>

> >hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

> >twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

> >ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

> >in a wheelchair.

>

> Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

> home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

> then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

> am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

>

> neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

> ack%20Pain%20Stories/

>

> I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

> 1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

> in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

> 2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

> new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

> a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

> bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

> woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

> chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

> loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

> have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

> of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

> been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

>

> Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

> listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tom. We did have to hire a lawyer. He does a lot of accidents as well

as SSDI stuff along with the criminal law etc. He's very good. Hubby knows

him. It's too bad because we were not at fault at all. She rear ended us

while we were stopped at a red light. Its not really the driver causing the

problem, it's the insurance Co. She has the same company as we do, so they

just don't want to pay either way. Her car was completely fixed before they

even came out to look at our car and they balked at the measly $480 price to

fix it. I drive a Jeep with a major bumper!

Joi

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Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

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At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

>twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

>ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

>in a wheelchair.

Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

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(neck pain/files/Neck%20 & %20B)

ack%20Pain%20Storieac

I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

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I do have a chiro but the adjustments began to make my pain worse. He did

see me when I had that swollen hand thing, which he felt could have been

caused by the thoracic outlet syndrome. He did a couple adjustments and

since the pain was worse we decided to stop for now.

Joi

Gizmo & Yoda, Papillons " The Girls "

Max, Blue Front Amazon

Jazzy, Crimson-bellied conure

Artemis, Painted conure

Shelby, Pineapple mutation Green-cheeked conure

Birdie, normal Green-cheeked conure

& Padme', rosirfons conure

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Re: hello everyone

>

> At 04:55 PM 4/10/2009, you wrote:

>

>

> >hi ,i recently joined the group.i have had surgery on l5-s1 area

> >twice.i have a lot of pain still.i also was recently told i have

> >ddd.i have had it for a while.i am 36.and i am scared i wiil end up

> >in a wheelchair.

>

> Hi my name is Dave. I'm a moderator here. If you go to our group

> home page. Then click on files, then neck and back pain stories,

> then Dave's story you'll see I suffer from similar issues, though I

> am now quite a bit older at 49. You can try clicking here:

>

>

neck pain/files/Neck%20%26%20B

> ack%20Pain%20Stories/

>

> I had several injuries that ended up in a failed back surgery around

> 1983 at age 22. Then a very good fusion at Jefferson Hospital

> in 1987 at age 26. That lasted 13 years. Then a re-injury Jan 5th

> 2000. In May of 2000 at age 39 they removed the old hardware, added

> new and fused an additional level. This was somewhat successful. Then

> a failed neck surgery / fusion in December of 2000. The removed some

> bone spurs, opened up the area for the spinal cord to travel and I

> woke up in much more pain than when I went into the OR. I've been in

> chronic pain ever since. Had to close my business in 2005 which I

> loved and was awarded disability in July 2007. Right now tonight I

> have gnawing pain under my right shoulder and in my thoracic region

> of about a 7-8. I blame it on the rain/colder weather. I've also

> been sleep deprived for about the past two weeks.

>

> Bottom line, you came to the right place. Plenty of sympathetic

> listeners here who can relate. Welcome, Dave Reading, PA

>

>

>

>

>

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