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Marilyn: You will most likely get many replies but I will add to the list

and say we have all been thru this. Or at least most of us have. Anywhere

in your loss process you can hit a plateau. It is kinda like your weight has

to stop so your body can catch up. Most of us have lost the same two-three

pounds many times.

Is it near your cycle? Have you done anything different. If not, just hold

on. Some plateaus last a long time and others only a few days. I was on one

plateau for 6 weeks. I am still on schedule with my weight loss and had my

surgery 11-29-2000 and have lost 135 pounds. Keep on keeping on:

Phyllis

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It is OK Marilyn! You may have some stalls like that I seem to do it every

10-14 pounds or so. I have been at a standstill for a week or so but I KNOW

it will restart again. After 5 months - I am down 70 pounds - unbelieveable!

Carol H

Mich

MGB: 01/07/2002 - Dr R

268/198

Weight GAIN

> Help! I don't understand what's going on......My surgery was May 21st

2002

> and I was loosing so good until a week ago. 218 to 202 and all of a sudden

I

> have gained back up to 204. I am still 14-28 days eating only jello,

soup,

> soft foods and drinking gaterade. Did anyone else have this problem?

>

> Live by God's light today;

> and brighten your tomorrows

>

> Marilyn Drake

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Marilyn, it's probably just water, and the fact that your body is

freaking out about losing the weight. It has been a proficient

survivalist. Don't worry because your new tummy will win,

eventually. At only a couple of weeks out, you are doing fine. Now

its funny that I am the one writing this, because I plagued the list

with my slow losses. I lost only 10 lbs the first 3 weeks! 18 lbs

total for the first month. But I have consistently lost for 14

months, and I'm down almost 140 lbs. If you ever want to talk about

it, feel free to email me privately. I feel that what you're

experiencing is normal, and understand why it's driving you crazy,

because I've been there!!

manda

> Help! I don't understand what's going on......My surgery was May

21st 2002

> and I was loosing so good until a week ago. 218 to 202 and all of a

sudden I

> have gained back up to 204. I am still 14-28 days eating only

jello, soup,

> soft foods and drinking gaterade. Did anyone else have this problem?

>

> Live by God's light today;

> and brighten your tomorrows

>

> Marilyn Drake

>

>

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http://mobile.msn.com

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Now there's an excuse I've never used for gaining weight! " Actually, I've

not gained that 10 lbs, the earth's gravitational force is not at a constant

where my scales are located. " Ha! Ha! I love it!!

The Mermaid

12-7-01

-86 lbs

>From: sombra46@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Weight GAIN

>Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:44:46 EDT

>

>I had surgery on May 23 and I went from 224 to 201 but I will say it has

>slowed to about 1/2 lb per day. There was even a day where my weight did

>not

>change. Your body might be getting ready for your period and believe it or

>not the angle the earth rotates on can effect the amount of gravity pull at

>any one location. The gravity constant is not constant, ie, 32 ft/seconds

>squared is an average at any one point on earth. If you would like further

>explanation I can go into more details, just ask. Try weighing just twice a

>week and these minor fluctuations will not be as apparent. Hang in there,

>Sherry

>

>

> >

> > Help! I don't understand what's going on......My surgery was May 21st

>2002

> >

> > and I was loosing so good until a week ago. 218 to 202 and all of a

>sudden

> > I

> > have gained back up to 204. I am still 14-28 days eating only jello,

>soup,

> >

> > soft foods and drinking gaterade. Did anyone else have this problem?

> >

> > Live by God's light today;

> > and brighten your tomorrows

> >

> > Marilyn Drake

>

>

>

>

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is sooooooo wise!! something i did once during a small gain

was this....

i wrote down everything i ate THE DAY BEFORE (if i keep a log of

what i eat during the present day i tend to eat better)look at the

calorie content and notice if it is balanced.... i BET you will see

that it is around 1800 cal and mostly carbs. that is what mine was

i didnt think i was consuming that much but i was! my meals are

so small sometimes i guess i think they dont count. and it was

certainly not balanced..... nary a veggie in sight!!

soooooooo if you cut your calories to around 1400, and balance the

food groups.... voila!! you will take off the weight SLOWLY. then

just watch what you eat after that and adjust your intake

accordingly sounds familiar, huh?

i agree with julie about WW i was never a big fan of WW but

their " points " program is great!! it is strange at first but in a

week you do great with the system....my hubby (who is a macho, i-dont-

need-no-stinkin-diet kinda guy)was pursuaded to go to meetings by

our daughter who told him she needed him to help her and be her buddy

for this.... has lost 25 pounds! my daughter has lost 20! slow

but steady they are doing great!

some say we never need to diet again thats BULL we ALL need to

diet, if for nothing else-- for balancing our nutrition! This is a

TOOL we still need to not eat too much of the wrong

things.....just like anyone else i feel this surgery made

me " normal " it didnt make me immune to weight issues.

this too, is my OPINION!!!

everybody be well

xoxoxo

cathy

> I have never gone back on liquids --- I didn't even stay on them

but a

> couple of weeks at the beginning.

>

> The following is MY OPINION.......

>

> The surgery for me was a tool. It was NOT a fix of my eating

problems.

> I have been a long time Weight Watcher member and still am. I have

from

> the very beginning believed that what I put in my mouth matters

> therefore I try to put good things in my system. For me I know

that if

> I " overeat " going out to dinner, on holidays, etc. I will and do

gain

> weight. The answer for me is what everyone else in the world does -

cut

> back for a few days after that and the weight " usually " comes off.

> Sometimes it takes a little stricter cutting back than others.

>

> Dr. R forgive me but at 2+ years out if I experience a weight gain

I do

> not believe it has anything to do with you --- but has EVERYTHING

to do

> with me. It is after all what I am putting in my mouth and if it is

> junk then it will manifest itself as fat on my body..... simple

science

> there.

>

> Once again --- these are my opinions as they relate to me.....

>

>

>

> > Re: Re: Diet and Exercise Time

> >

> >

> > and ,

> > I 'm only 1 1/2 months post-op, but I was wondering if, as

> > the tendency gets

> > greater to put some weight back on, going back on liquids for

> > a while helps?

> > Thanks, Sara

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 12/4/02 9:30:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, cpcjim@... writes:

Has anyone had a weight gain on Lexapro? Thanks,

J.

I put on a few with celexa....Suz

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Yes. But I'm not sure whether to blame Lex or myself.

:)

Weight Gain

Has anyone had a weight gain on Lexapro? Thanks,

J.

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I've gained 3-5 pounds on lexapro in like 3 or 4 months but i cant

say its the drug. Remeron absloutely made me ravenous bu t

this is probly just my lazy ass lifestyle and my roomates cooking.

I can say when i was on celexa and klonopin i lost weight but that

was after 6 weeks of anxiety where i didnt really eat atll. Anxiety

is the best diet.

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Dear Fran and all,

I sympathize with all of you who don't want to gain weight. I am 5'9 " , and

weigh about 139 lbs. When I had Graves I weighed about 129, which I loved (I

didn't love being sick, though) although some said I looked too skinny.

When I got on Tap, I was still eating like a horse (another thing I loved

about Graves), but I started to put weight on. When I felt myself going

above my set point of 139, I asked the doctor to lower the dose, as I wrote

previously. I could feel my metabolism slowing down. I know that when your

metabolism feels like that, you can eat well and exercise, and still gain

weight. I've been cured now for about 5 years, and eat healthily and

exercise almost daily. However, sometimes I feel heavier, like my metabolism

is slowing down. When that happens, I try to streamline my diet by eating

mostly what I call " super foods, " e.g., nutrient dense lean protein,

veggies, fruit and complex carbs that are supposed to be really good for you

(such as egg whites, blueberries, spinach, garlic, strawberries, chicken

breast, tofu, oatmeal, yogurt, etc.). I also take supplements that I was

taking when I became hyperT, thinking that my thyroid needs a " boost, " such

as Siberian Ginseng and Progest. I know how frustrating it is to eat right

and exercise and still gain weight, and to feel that whatever you do is to no

avail. I try to do SOMETHING fast after gaining 4 pounds or so, so that it

never gets to be more than that.

For all of you trying to lose weight, I wish you the best of luck. I think

the meds cause weight gain, and that becoming and remaining hypo add to the

problem. The doctors don't seem to care about our weight gain, so it's up to

us to listen to our bodies, experiment, and keep seeking solutions that work

for us.

Best to all,

AntJoan

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As soon as I was put on medications, I started to gain weight even though I

followed the Drs low fat diet. I felt like a blob for months then finally

began to have energy again so then started walking and exercising. In one

two week period AFTER my medication was in sync, my labs were

acceptable(supposedly)... I gained TEN pounds and it kept going up. I was

eating salads (fat free, sugar free dressing) and steamed veggies and

broiled skinless chicken. I kept a food dairy and took it AND my husband

(who can lie about what they've eaten in front of the husband??) to my

endocrinologist. I could not understand how I could be eating so low fat,

exercising and still my weight continued to climb. (My husband lost weight)

It seemed as though I could not stop the upward climb of my scale. It was so

disappointing. I now weigh 50 pounds more than my " before Graves " average

weight. But the upward spiral has stopped. My Dr decided that I must be

carb sensitive so now I have a lo-fat, lo-carb diet. The Zone was one of

the diets that my dr recommended.

The advice not to accept the weight gain that someone here (Arlene or Joan,

maybe?) gave you is very good advice. Attack it now. My dr said we would

worry about my heart/Graves first and deal with the weight later. I did not

find this bb until I was too far gone with the weight gain!<G> This bb has

been great. With advice and support here, my weight gain has stopped and

I've actually lost a couple of pounds.

Good luck!

Fran

to Kim

>well, not to discourage you further, but I started exercising...4-5 times a

week 1.25 hrs. in the gym and an hour of tae-bo twice a week (now for

approx. 5 weeks) - have not lost one pound. In fact, I'm still gaining. I

have changed my eating habits (although I'm far from perfect) but I eat far

less now than I did at 130lbs - and now pushing 153 (my ideal and not so

long ago weight 120lbs) so technically I have gained and really need to lose

33 lbs. I did hear the high protein, low carbs work well with graves & hypo

patients, but darn, that's a hard one to stick to - I guess I need to suck

it up and find my willpower - I would love to have an email friend to vent

to when I've starved myself all day, exercised until my legs jello and get

on the scale the next manana and GAIN a pound. WHAT AN UNFAIR THING! Do you

keep track of what you eat at all? Did the endo's tell you how many calories

they want you to eat, etc, etc.? I'm sure your 150 looks better on your 5'5 "

frame than my short little (not) 5'1 " body - but I KNOW how rotten it feels

no matter how tall you are....to have a closet full of clothes that you

can't wear - hummmffphthjlkath (my way of cussing :-) Take Care and keep in

touch - let me know if you find an answer!

> Re: PTU WEIGHT GAIN CRAZY ENDO NEED ADVICE

>

>

> I'm miserable with my weight too.. I weighed 114 my whole life. I get

> Grave's disease and go to 130+ and now am at 150 and am 5'5 " . I'd love

to

> lose it! I guess I need to exercise..Kim

>

>

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THANK YOU FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT! A doctor actually recommended the zone diet? I

mentioned high protein, low carbs to my crazy endo and she frowned and said

" don't do that to your body " ? I thought it would make me worse but I am learning

this dr. lady from India is crazy - I have sceduled an appt with a new dr in a

couple of weeks. THANKS SO MUCH!

Re: PTU WEIGHT GAIN CRAZY ENDO NEED ADVICE

>

>

> I'm miserable with my weight too.. I weighed 114 my whole life. I get

> Grave's disease and go to 130+ and now am at 150 and am 5'5 " . I'd love

to

> lose it! I guess I need to exercise..Kim

>

>

>

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No,no endo or GP ever told me to go on the Zone diet. Unfortunately, today,

most doctors don't have time to be educators, nor do they have this kind of

nutritional information themselves. When I became severely ill, with Graves',

prior to my diagnosis (I didn't see a GP for 11 months, and was trying to do

things in an alternative way), I took my health into my own hands, and spent

some money on myself which I don't ordinarily do. I saw both a hypnotherapist

(for relaxation techniques) and a naturopath. From the hypnotherapist, I got

information about the Zone diet, which I had already known about. I altered the

diet, slightly, to fit my needs (a little more bread per day). But what it gave

me was the nuts (you eat a little fat with each meal)which have copper in them.

I didn't know at the time that I needed to increase copper, but I think,

instinctively, my body was finding this out and reaching for what I needed.

Hope this helps,

Arlene

Re: weight gain

THANK YOU FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT! A doctor actually recommended the zone diet? I

mentioned high protein, low carbs to my crazy endo and she frowned and said

" don't do that to your body " ? I thought it would make me worse but I am learning

this dr. lady from India is crazy - I have sceduled an appt with a new dr in a

couple of weeks. THANKS SO MUCH!

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After losing nearly 15 pounds in as many days when I first started

Lex, I levelled off for a week and now my full appetite is back. :-(

Alan

> I've gained 3-5 pounds on lexapro in like 3 or 4 months but i cant

> say its the drug. Remeron absloutely made me ravenous bu t

> this is probly just my lazy ass lifestyle and my roomates cooking.

> I can say when i was on celexa and klonopin i lost weight but that

> was after 6 weeks of anxiety where i didnt really eat atll.

Anxiety

> is the best diet.

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Hey Fran,

I actually did the Atkins diet last year, before I got pregnant. I

went from 280 to 200 pretty quickly. Once I got pregnant, I went

off, thinking it wasn't healthy b/c I wasn't eating more than maybe

5 grams of carbs a day. I balooned back up to 295 at my highest

pregnancy weight. I " m now 260 and terrified I'll gain even more. Now

that I " ve read your story, maybe I need to go back on the Atkins

diet before the weight starts creeping back on. Anyway, thanks for

posting what you did b/c now I don't feel so bad. :)

Jen

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Hello all!!

I am new to this group but I have to join in this weight gain discussion as it

is a sensitive topic for me. I gained 25 pounds so far and am not pleased. I

have been going to the gym everyday for the past 2 weeks. I can't decipher

whether the weight gain is from the lexapro, the depakote or from the fact that

I have been a body builder for some time but was in a car accident on my way to

the psych hosp and couldn't work out for 4 months. The weight gain could be a

combination of things and I just can't point my finger on the lexapro. I am

currently back to work and back to the gym so we'll see if I can't drop the

weight. I am also very tired these days trying to work, go to the gym, then to

an AA meeting while being on meds. It is quite a challenge.

Kim

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Kim...definitely being out of the gym will do it as well as the depakote. I have

read studies on Lexapro which say over the long run there is very little weight

change. Depakote can make you gain as well as being out of your normal

workingout routine. I work out every day and I was trying to get pregnant a

while back. I had to cut back on my cardio and I ate a little more and I gained

20 pounds almost immediately. So I went back to the gym regularly and ate my

usual food instead of indulging here and there and I had it back off again in a

few months. I have lost a total of 111 lbs so I am sensitive also to weight

gain. Suz

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Suz

How did you make out trying to get pregnant? I'm trying myself right now and

have never had any children yet. I'm 38 so it is supposed to be a little more

difficult. Any helpful suggestions?

So glad to hear of your weight loss. I get more tired when I'm carrying extra

weight not to mention being extremely uncomfortable.

I'm eating properly and quitting smoking which should help.

Thanks,

Kim

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I am by no means blaming Lexapro for weight gain. It definitely

decreased my apetite for 2 weeks. Now I have a normal appetite. I

am gaining weight because my " normal " appetite is to eat too much.

I'm the only one to blame for that! :-)

Alan

> Kim...definitely being out of the gym will do it as well as the

depakote. I have read studies on Lexapro which say over the long run

there is very little weight change. Depakote can make you gain as

well as being out of your normal workingout routine. I work out

every day and I was trying to get pregnant a while back. I had to

cut back on my cardio and I ate a little more and I gained 20 pounds

almost immediately. So I went back to the gym regularly and ate my

usual food instead of indulging here and there and I had it back off

again in a few months. I have lost a total of 111 lbs so I am

sensitive also to weight gain. Suz

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Hi Alan

Maybe I'll skip the depakote and only take the lexapro..lol...

I don't think my dr will agree with that though. I keep telling him I want to

manage my bipolar disorder through exercise, meditation, etc.... and he just

laughs at me because I've been trying to do it my way for the past six years

since I got sober and it never works. I just hate the meds because they slow me

down and I think I like the mania because I get so much accomplished. I don't

like the depression though.

Kim

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Hi Suz

There is lithium but it causes serious birth defects. Due to the possibility of

me getting pregnant at any time the depakote is the easiest to reduce the dosage

to a safe level for pregnancy. My doctor keeps telling me to hang in there and

the side effects will lessen over time. My sex life is suffering though in the

meantime. Makes it very tough while trying to get pregnant...lol...

I'm feeling really grateful today which is why I'm finding humor in all of this.

Things could be so much worse in my life and they have been.

It's just amazing to me right now that I have the job that I have and actually

show up every day. I couldn't do that when I was really sick.

Thanks so much for everyone writing to me.... I really appreciate it!!!

Kim

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Thanks Dave!

I will ask my doctor about that on Monday! It sounds a lot better than

depakote!!!!

Kim

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Kim,

I got pregnant with my son when I was 29 and there were no problems beyond

anxiety when I was pregnant. I started trying again when I was 39 and it just

didnt happen. I went thru some fertility treatments and thats what restarted my

panic attacks. I had been in remission for like 8 yrs. My husband has a problem

with his count after all these years. But we are ok with this.

I hope you have a great weekend and good luck with trying for a baby. Youll be a

great mom!! Suz

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In a message dated 12/6/2002 12:30:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, kapollock

writes:

> It's just amazing to me right now that I have the job that I have and actually

show up every day. I couldn't do that

> when I was really sick.

You should be so proud of yourself!! You should copy and paste the sentence you

wrote above and hang it on your bathroom mirror!! Look how far youve come!! Suz

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