Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Hi , I am six years out and through my journey and alot of research over the whole weight loss surgery spectrum, I have learned that some weight gain happens to many people. There are various reasons and will not attempt to take a guess as to why you are gaining. This " tool " that we have had does work. However, sometimes we have to work the " tool " . I know with myself, I have gained alot of weight back. I was too thin at one time and " thought " I could go back to eating like I used to. Well, I got what I asked for, weight gain, but a little too much me thinks. As I researched the various weight loss surgeries, statistically, I noticed that after two or three years out, many folks gained back an average of 20 lbs. So, this is not unusual if you look at weight loss surgeries as a whole. I still think the MGB is the better surgery and works the best if we all follow the program. I don't know if this has helped you. All I can say is, for myself, I need to get back into exercise and eating better. a MGB/2000 > > I am almost 3 years out. I am 5' 11 " and started at 306.5 lbs. The > most I was ever down to was 194.5. Currently I am at 214.5... I have > gained weight back and am seriously stressing over it. At the > beginning of this process you think " What if it doesn't work for me? " > I'm starting to have those feelings again. Has anyone else > experienced any weight gain? I had my surgery in Joplin, MO and I > can't even find an e-mail on the clos.net website to contact Dr. > Hargroder. Looking for some kind of help or reassurance. Thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 ita, you're not alone. I had my surgery with Dr. Rutledge in December of 2000. I too lost only about 65 pounds and struggle with the same doggoned 10 pounds that I've put back on. I'm thankful for the 50 that I've kept off, but like you am dissappointed that I never did reach my goal. I don't post often either because I too am embarassed when I see the awesome results of many others. I am very happy for them and celebrate their loss, but I understand that we're not all alike, and our losses will be different. Again, I'm thankful for the weight I did loose and the fact that I've kept most of it off. Take care and God bless. from Michigan. Re: Re: Weight Gain Dear , I appreciated 's response to your concerns regarding weight gain, listen to what she say because she has done fantastic since her surgery! I on the other hand was only able to lose about 55 - 60 lbs and have unfortunately gained about 10 -15 lbs back. I seem to hit one plateau after another and have been unable to really get the weight off like others. I tried changing/refining my eating much more with small success, but I really think that one needs to make sure that they are getting enough physical exercise. I know that I wish that I would have worked with a personal trainer from the very beginning like because I truly believe that it does make a difference in how an MGB'er does with weight loss. I have hesitated to write much on the board but definitely read it, just too embarrassed to share much. My surgery was in April of 2004 with Dr. Hargroder but I think that I am just one of the those folks that fights to hang onto every ounce of weight they have. (Yes, I did increase my protein, ... like many suggested but the one thing that I did not do was exercise like I should have and should. One really needs to have a balanced approach to weight and health which I am still in quest of. I do feel better with some of the weight gone, don't have a lot of excess hanging skin so I am still thankful for having gone through the MGB.) If I were to recommend anything, it would be to not give up on your good eating habits ( which I fight with everyday because of the plateau status that I unfortunately live with and have been overwhelming discouraged by) and most definitely exercise. Don't give up or be hesitant to ask the MGB group for advice and support like me. Hang in there and do the right things and everything will work out. Blessings to you, ita in OK 245/187/? day of surgery/lowest weight/now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I had a hystorectomy a couple months ago and now i started gaining weight since. could it be slugish bowels or did she mess with the bypass of my intestance in the prosess, i am consered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 You didn't say how far postop you are and that could make a big difference in what is going on. First, a gynecologic surgeon should have had no reason for doing anything with your bypass, probably wasn't even close to it. " Sluggish " bowels should not really be affecting things unless you are constipated in which case you would be uncomfortable I would think and would be doing something to take care of the discomfort, which should ultimately take care of the weight gain. My guess is that since surgery you have been less active while you are recovering. You may also be eating differently, more " indulgent " , " less healthy " which would account for some weight gain. It is human nature to " nurture " ourselves after surgery, etc. My thought would be to take a good hard look at what you are eating. Is it in any way out of line. If so, adjust. If not, please talk to your PCP and/or your surgeon about your concerns. My best advice is .. don't let these few pounds " find friends " .... speaking as someone who's pounds always seem to have friends! in GA > > I had a hystorectomy a couple months ago and now i started gaining weight > since. could it be slugish bowels or did she mess with the bypass of my > intestance in the prosess, i am consered > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 , Thank you for your kind email - I agree with everything you said and am thankful for my loss and increased health. just wished that I would have been one of the blessed ones to have lost that 100 lbs too. Nonetheless, I am still thankful. ita in OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Thanks for all the advice and support with my regards to weight gain. I think I'll go ahead and call Dr. Rutledge and get his outlook on my situation. Thanks to all! > > > > I am almost 3 years out. I am 5' 11 " and started at 306.5 lbs. The > > most I was ever down to was 194.5. Currently I am at 214.5... I > have > > gained weight back and am seriously stressing over it. At the > > beginning of this process you think " What if it doesn't work for > me? " > > I'm starting to have those feelings again. Has anyone else > > experienced any weight gain? I had my surgery in Joplin, MO and I > > can't even find an e-mail on the clos.net website to contact Dr. > > Hargroder. Looking for some kind of help or reassurance. Thanks, > > > > > Hi ! > I am sorry to hear that you are gaining weight. I had the mgb with Dr. > Hargroder as well. He is not living in Joplin anymore. His new phone > is 417-776-5900. I have not gained any weight back but I have heard of > people that have. I think I remember someone saying to get back on > your protein drinks and eats lots of fruits and veggies and lean > meats. Maybe doing some cardio traing will help too. I hope this > helps! > Good Luck! > > mgb 12/4/2003 > post op 214 > now 107-112 > height 5'1 > age 42 > size 0-1 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hi , Here I am! I have been savoring VCO since April 2004. I am normal weight and not sick, except for some medical damage early in life and for some really bad insomnia, which I believe has gotten worse since I started VCO. It may be stimulating me too much. I also deal with bone loss, which I reversed in the last year but was not particularly helped by VCO, rather by other things. I have a super-excellent Total Cholesterol /HDL ratio (2.19), normal blood sugar, good blood pressure (115/70 or less). My triglycerides are steady at 55, which is really, really good. I eat a whole-foods plant-based diet, which includes whole grains, beans and vegetables, but no refined flours or simple sugars. You say you have cut down on " calories " - it's my mission (on this list and elsewhere) to translate these medical abstractions into real food. What foods have you cut down on, and what foods are you eating now? Some people do have to cut down on other foods to make room for the VCO. I think it's worth it. Nina Weight Gain It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight! I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death. yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date: 10/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I have been using VCO for about 3 years now, maybe longer. I am 61 years old, 6' tall and weigh 170 pounds. 5 years ago, I weighed 270. Not all the weight loss is from eating VCO. I cut out sugar, milk, grains, flour, soft drinks, coffee, and other things which are bad for me. I am able to control my diabetes without the use of diabetic drugs. As part of a healthy diet, I feel VCO is good for me, but it won't do miracles if one has a bad diet, does not get enough sleep, or has other negative lifestyle habits. Alobar On 10/25/06, jacqueline33875 <jacqueline33875@...> wrote: > It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there > anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been > taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight! > I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to > weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i > lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death. > yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have > actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not > muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I don't have any medical problems other than weighing a few more pounds than I should. I didn't lose or gain weight when I started coconut oil about six months ago. I just use it mostly in place of butter so I didn't take the recommended 3-4 tsp daily. I feel better when I have it and have more energy to exercise. I only lost the weight when I started eating more raw foods (veg and fruit) and cut down on grains. I also avoid all processed food (as much as possible) because 80% contains GMOs and probably 100% contain chemicals that weren't meant by nature for human consumption.. . --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Nina: I too have terrible Insomnia, so I have cut down on the VCO to 1/2 tsp. per meal. It has helped some but the only way I can sleep is to take NONE. That is sad. Bonnie Weight Gain It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight! I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death. yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date: 10/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty well. i have a hand full of different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also high in fat. i have grilled chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? great. should i just keep on with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? --- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: > Nina: > > I too have terrible Insomnia, so I have cut down on the VCO to 1/2 tsp. per meal. It has helped > some but the only way I can sleep is to take NONE. That is sad. > > Bonnie > Weight Gain > > It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there > anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been > taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight! > I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to > weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i > lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death. > yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have > actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not > muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond... > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date: 10/25/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > > > I just seem to be gaining weight all over since I started taking the > cocnut oil.I have a terrible headache today and restarted my natural > progesterone cream yesterday after a 7 day break.All my clothes are > getting tighter in spite of the diet and exercise.It's so > frustrating.I have been so strict on the diet.What is going on? > My doctor told me to start natural prog. cream but i decided not to with all the bad press. i am so frustrated also. how much VCO do you use? have you had your thyroid checked? i have noticed major energy when i use VCO. I just don't want to gain anymore weight!!! I think I will cut down on the oil to see if I stop gaining. i love the other affects of it. Boy, us women have it ruff!!! it's not fair..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > > > > > > I just seem to be gaining weight all over since I started taking the > > cocnut oil.I have a terrible headache today and restarted my natural > > progesterone cream yesterday after a 7 day break.All my clothes are > > getting tighter in spite of the diet and exercise.It's so > > frustrating.I have been so strict on the diet.What is going on? > > > My doctor told me to start natural prog. cream but i decided not to > with all the bad press. i am so frustrated also. how much VCO do you > use? have you had your thyroid checked? i have noticed major energy > when i use VCO. I just don't want to gain anymore weight!!! I think I > will cut down on the oil to see if I stop gaining. i love the other > affects of it. Boy, us women have it ruff!!! it's not fair..lol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 On 10/26/06, sallyhffmn <sally.hoffman@...> wrote: > > Take your temperature 3 times a day. 3 hours > after getting up and in 3 hour intervals and see if your temperature > is alot below normal. Stupid question time here but what is 'normal' in centigrade. Giving my age way :-) but I still think in Fahrenheit but my new digital thermometer is centigrade. I keep taking my temp but have no idea what the results mean :-( Thanks Kirsteen -- > Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > > > > Take your temperature 3 times a day. 3 hours > > after getting up and in 3 hour intervals and see if your temperature > > is alot below normal. > > > Stupid question time here but what is 'normal' in centigrade. Giving my age > way :-) but I still think in Fahrenheit but my new digital thermometer is > centigrade. I keep taking my temp but have no idea what the results mean :-( > > Thanks > Kirsteen > > -- > > Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Jackie: Some of your problems might be your hormones. Write me off-list and maybe I can help some. Bonnie Weight Gain > > It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there > anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been > taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight! > I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to > weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i > lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death. > yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have > actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not > muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond... > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/497 - Release Date: 10/25/2006 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 You might want to try cutting out all pasta and bread. Alobar On 10/26/06, Jackie <jacqueline33875@...> wrote: > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty well. i have a hand full of > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also high in fat. i have grilled > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? great. should i just keep on > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Alobar I'm impressed. How did you cut out sugar out of your diet? Coconut Oil@...: Alobar@...: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:38:26 -0500Subject: Re: Weight Gain I have been using VCO for about 3 years now, maybe longer. I am 61years old, 6' tall and weigh 170 pounds. 5 years ago, I weighed270. Not all the weight loss is from eating VCO. I cut out sugar,milk, grains, flour, soft drinks, coffee, and other things which arebad for me. I am able to control my diabetes without the use ofdiabetic drugs. As part of a healthy diet, I feel VCO is good forme, but it won't do miracles if one has a bad diet, does not getenough sleep, or has other negative lifestyle habits.AlobarOn 10/25/06, jacqueline33875 <jacqueline33875@...> wrote:> It seems everyone on this site has some kind of problem. is there> anyone who is not sick? Normal size? Is there anyone who has been> taking VCO for more then 2 weeks? i want to know if you gained weight!> I am not overweight and i do not want to be. will this contribute to> weight gain? i have been using VCO for 2 1/2 weeks, the first week i> lost 2.4Lbs, the second week i gained 6lbs... i am scared to death.> yes, i do feel better, more energy, but i am gaining weight. i have> actually cut down on my calories and upped my exercise. no it is not> muscle. it is fat. is this happening to anyone? please respond...>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I stopped eating all the processed foods, stopped drinking soda, stopped cakes & cookies. I gave up coffee. For a while, I still ate small portions of fruit and berries, but realized I had to give them up too. No milk either. It was very rough for about the first month, but I had this big non-healing hole in the sole of my foot. I had an older relative as a kid who had a perpetually infected foot. She eventually had to get part of her foot amputated, then later, the rest of the foot. Seeing her daughter change the dressings on her mother's foot gave me nightmares. The smell of the rotting flesh gave me nightmares. So when I had to confront my old eating habits, my old nightmares came back to me to give me the strength to persist in my new diet. Alobar On 10/27/06, McCoy <smccoy@...> wrote: > Alobar > > I'm impressed. How did you cut out sugar out of your diet? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 go online and find info on progesterone cream only buy USD progesterone tho .. look for Dr Lee, he is the information on this subject has written books etc on it . I order mine online form a company Bio Nutritional phone #631-694-9777 the oner i get is Dr Lee approved called Pure-Gest. every woman of every age weather menopausale or not needs this .. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Alobar <Alobar@...> You might want to try cutting out all pasta and bread. Alobar On 10/26/06, Jackie <jacqueline33875@...> wrote: > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty well. i have a hand full of > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also high in fat. i have grilled > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? great. should i just keep on > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Well said Alobar. That should hit home. Bonnie Re: Weight Gain I stopped eating all the processed foods, stopped drinking soda, stopped cakes & cookies. I gave up coffee. For a while, I still ate small portions of fruit and berries, but realized I had to give them up too. No milk either. It was very rough for about the first month, but I had this big non-healing hole in the sole of my foot. I had an older relative as a kid who had a perpetually infected foot. She eventually had to get part of her foot amputated, then later, the rest of the foot. Seeing her daughter change the dressings on her mother's foot gave me nightmares. The smell of the rotting flesh gave me nightmares. So when I had to confront my old eating habits, my old nightmares came back to me to give me the strength to persist in my new diet. Alobar On 10/27/06, McCoy <smccoy@...> wrote: > Alobar > > I'm impressed. How did you cut out sugar out of your diet? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 What does progesterone cream do? I am 37, so hormones may be the cause of my continued weight gain. doesn't cause cancer or something? do you feel different when you use the cream. will it help with the weight gain? loss of sex drive? moods? the VCO has help with my energy. how many times of day do you use the cream? > > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty well. i have a hand full of > > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also high in fat. i have grilled > > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? great. should i just keep on > > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Jacquie: A hormone imbalance usually caused water-retention, I don't know about the weight gain. That might be a thyroid imbalance. VCO should help with weight loss. When you added the VCO to your diet, did that LESSEN the hormone symptoms in any measurable way? Bonnie Re: Weight Gain What does progesterone cream do? I am 37, so hormones may be the cause of my continued weight gain. doesn't cause cancer or something? do you feel different when you use the cream. will it help with the weight gain? loss of sex drive? moods? the VCO has help with my energy. how many times of day do you use the cream? > > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty well. i have a hand full of > > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also high in fat. i have grilled > > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? great. should i just keep on > > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 yes it did. no more hot flashes. moods are alittle better. i do not think i have water retention. my legs do not swell. i exercise every single day. maybe it has not been long enough. my thyroid test came back fine. except for a nodule on my thyroid. the doc said that would not make it sluggish. --- Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote: > Jacquie: > > A hormone imbalance usually caused water-retention, I don't know about the weight gain. That > might be a thyroid imbalance. VCO should help with weight loss. > > When you added the VCO to your diet, did that LESSEN the hormone symptoms in any measurable way? > > Bonnie > > > Re: Weight Gain > > > What does progesterone cream do? I am 37, so hormones may be the > cause of my continued weight gain. doesn't cause cancer or > something? do you feel different when you use the cream. will it > help with the weight gain? loss of sex drive? moods? the VCO has > help with my energy. how many times of day do you use the cream? > > > > > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty > well. i have a hand full of > > > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also > high in fat. i have grilled > > > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green > tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > > > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? > great. should i just keep on > > > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Jackie: Glad to hear that your hormones have settled down some, due to VCO, you do seem a bit young to be starting to have hormone imbalance. Water retention (I believe) usually shows up as tight rings, swelling around the eyes and sometimes dizziness if the fluid gets into your middle ear. A nodule on your thyroid? Better have that looked at. I have a friend with a nodule on hers and it was removed and checked. Bonnie Re: Weight Gain > > > What does progesterone cream do? I am 37, so hormones may be the > cause of my continued weight gain. doesn't cause cancer or > something? do you feel different when you use the cream. will it > help with the weight gain? loss of sex drive? moods? the VCO has > help with my energy. how many times of day do you use the cream? > > > > > I have cut down on pastas, breads and no chips. i eat pretty > well. i have a hand full of > > > different nuts everyday, not a whole bunch, i know they are also > high in fat. i have grilled > > > chicken, boiled eggs x1, no soda only water purified and green > tea no sugar. i am just a weirdo i > > > guess!!! i am 37 so my doctor thinks it is my hormones???????? > great. should i just keep on > > > with the 3 tbsp per day or cut down? > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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