Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Doug: You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. Bonnie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of dglsrichey Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM candidiasis Subject: Other prebiotics? If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Doug, side-effects from INULIN could very well be that the Inulin is ALSO feeding your BAD BACTERIA. Bonnie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of dglsrichey Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM candidiasis Subject: Other prebiotics? If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? candidiasis Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM Â Doug: You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. Bonnie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis] On Behalf Of dglsrichey Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM candidiasis Subject: Other prebiotics? If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Man, I have been saying this for years. Inulin seems to be problematic in those of us with more severe conditions. I see on this forum and curezone forums, some of the smartest posters recommending it over and over for the past 5 years, yet always the vast majority who try inulin or fos end up with increased symptoms. Makes me doubt some of the most logical contributors, which makes me doubt my whole approach. It is frustrating. The idea of a prebiotic sounds like it would be the main means to a cure, I just have not found one that does not make problems worse. I have tried inulin, acacia, lactulose, and galacto-oligosacchrides. I am now just starting oat fiber. greg h(someone else has been posting as Greg recently, so I guess I will initial...sigh) > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Greg, if I say I get a headache, nausea, feel sort of sick and increased arthritis from eating inulin either way, how do you interpret such a reaction. You would not just chalk it up as a leakey gut or temporary food sensitivity? I don't know what would have happened if I took it for a week. I backed off pretty quick after getting that a second time, that second time with the jer. artichoke. I was worried that as a type of sugar it was bringing on my lyme. I ran that through my better lyme group and found that was not so. Doug From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? candidiasis Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 9:47 PM  Man, I have been saying this for years. Inulin seems to be problematic in those of us with more severe conditions. I see on this forum and curezone forums, some of the smartest posters recommending it over and over for the past 5 years, yet always the vast majority who try inulin or fos end up with increased symptoms. Makes me doubt some of the most logical contributors, which makes me doubt my whole approach. It is frustrating. The idea of a prebiotic sounds like it would be the main means to a cure, I just have not found one that does not make problems worse. I have tried inulin, acacia, lactulose, and galacto-oligosacchr ides. I am now just starting oat fiber. greg h(someone else has been posting as Greg recently, so I guess I will initial...sigh) > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I've seen inulin cause temporary problems -- with gas and distension -- but everyone I've treated here responded favourably in the end. I know Greg and a couple of others with more problematic cases wouldn't continue it, but I think our improved comunication on Curezone is not enough to derail 5,000 years of consistent inulin use outside of Curezone. If anything, our continued successful use of it in the vast majority as well as in the research highlights the positive effect. Gas may be an increased symptom of candida flourish on carbs, but with inulin it's not an increased " symptom " but a product of fermentation; carbon dioxide is a product of lactobacilli. I think the problem arises with thinking gas is a symptom. The subject of alternative or gasless prebiotics has surfaced before; reference data compares prebiotics, some of which is posted on the front of my inulin page, and much more in Tungland's Comprehensive Review in the references. http://tinyurl.com/inulins.html You see by the research, prebiotics appeal to a range of organisms, and most prebiotics support way too many types of pathogenic organisms. Inulin is the " cleanest " by a very large margin, of the prebiotics, because it fails to support the pathogens even in a pure culture incubated at the right temperature for an extra week. My approach at the office is to inform the client of several anti-microbials and antifungals they might use in addition to the inulin, as we are doing here on this site. Severe cases should always look at them and also pharmaceuticals, which I do not handle at all but has amply described. all good, Duncan > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 This idea of good and bad bacteria in the body is a myth, in my opinion. Bacteria is bacteria is bacteria. It is only bad when it becomes pathogenic or out of balance. For instance, E.Coli, Salmenello, Staph, listeria and Candida are all a natural component of a healthy GI tract. When they become over populated, which is called pathogenic, they cause damage. It is about balance not good or bad. Consuming what are called prebiotics feed the microorganism in the GI tract an unnaturally occuring diet potentially leading to a larger overgrowth resulting in several potentially damaging effects. These insoluble and soluble fiber supplements are not needed when you are following a candida diet. These fibers should be in your diet from whole foods, not isolated elements added to your diet. This is not natural. Saying you are on a probiotic is somewhat miss leading. There are over 700 different strains of probiotics you can purchase and are beneficial to the human GI tract. What strain of probiotic are you taking? These dairy based and lactic acid producing probiotics are not the only ones required for health. The vast majority are soil born probiotics do not repopulate in the human GI tract. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: douglas richey <dglsrichey@...> candidiasis Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 7:36:02 PM Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@sympatic o.ca> Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? candidiasis Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM Doug: You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. Bonnie _____ From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On Behalf Of dglsrichey Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM candidiasis Subject: Other prebiotics? If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? Thanks Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I would like to understand you. It could be great for my knowledges. According to you, what don't allow candida become pathogenic are transient probiotic strains such as your famous B.O.D. Wil, I believe you are a genius man. I admire you, . > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@sympatic o.ca> > Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? > candidiasis > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > Doug: > > You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. > > Bonnie > > _____ > > From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On > > Behalf Of dglsrichey > > Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM > > candidiasis > > Subject: Other prebiotics? > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > Thanks Doug > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I think it simply is not as specific of a bacterial food as everyone claims it to be. For me, it just increases all the problems I had with candida in the first place before going low carb, i.e. brain fog, severe bloating, reflux, excema, general goopy feeling of the intestines. Whatever's got a hold of me seems to like inulin just fine. Another issue that people keep bringing up is there might be too much unbound fructose in the inulin products I have used, but I have used multiple products to the same affect, and honestly, I could eat a few grams of straight sugar with fewer problems. The fact that is makes it all the way to the intestine makes it a perfect fuel for what lives there. Then Duncan says, the brands I have been using might not have a good concentration of the long chains. To this I say, maybe, but where can I get " long chain " inulin? greg h. > > > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Duncan, gas was not even the main issue with mine it was headache, nausea, sort of feeling sick and arthritis. I anticipated gas or bloating but not the other. Doug From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? candidiasis Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:14 PM  I've seen inulin cause temporary problems -- with gas and distension -- but everyone I've treated here responded favourably in the end. I know Greg and a couple of others with more problematic cases wouldn't continue it, but I think our improved comunication on Curezone is not enough to derail 5,000 years of consistent inulin use outside of Curezone. If anything, our continued successful use of it in the vast majority as well as in the research highlights the positive effect. Gas may be an increased symptom of candida flourish on carbs, but with inulin it's not an increased " symptom " but a product of fermentation; carbon dioxide is a product of lactobacilli. I think the problem arises with thinking gas is a symptom. The subject of alternative or gasless prebiotics has surfaced before; reference data compares prebiotics, some of which is posted on the front of my inulin page, and much more in Tungland's Comprehensive Review in the references. http://tinyurl. com/inulins. html You see by the research, prebiotics appeal to a range of organisms, and most prebiotics support way too many types of pathogenic organisms. Inulin is the " cleanest " by a very large margin, of the prebiotics, because it fails to support the pathogens even in a pure culture incubated at the right temperature for an extra week. My approach at the office is to inform the client of several anti-microbials and antifungals they might use in addition to the inulin, as we are doing here on this site. Severe cases should always look at them and also pharmaceuticals, which I do not handle at all but has amply described. all good, Duncan > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yes that is what I am saying. You will learn this when you read my book that is in the files of this group. The research findings from Dr. O'Donnell from the 1980's and the Mayo Clinic in upstate New York was very difficult to obtain, it is like this information has been intentionally hidden. I struggled for years with candida till I found this information. I have been using this in my clinic for years with amazing results with candida overgrowths. I have heard of a few other in North America and a friend of mine in New Zealand using same probiotic. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 3:33:28 PM Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? I would like to understand you. It could be great for my knowledges. According to you, what don't allow candida become pathogenic are transient probiotic strains such as your famous B.O.D. Wil, I believe you are a genius man. I admire you, . > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic o.ca> > Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? > candidiasis > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > Doug: > > You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. > > Bonnie > > _____ > > From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On > > Behalf Of dglsrichey > > Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM > > candidiasis > > Subject: Other prebiotics? > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > Thanks Doug > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Do you believe I am talking seriously????? > > > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic o.ca> > > Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? > > candidiasis > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > Doug: > > > > You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. > > > > Bonnie > > > > _____ > > > > From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On > > > > Behalf Of dglsrichey > > > > Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM > > > > candidiasis > > > > Subject: Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Well, maybe you are not talking seriously, but I sure am! This is how easy it is to overcome a severe life threatening candida fungal overgrowth. It is so easy I put it in a little book for the world to read. And several thousands are reading it and regaining their health. It is this simple! Life and health do not have to be complicated! I am here to share just that. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 8:45:41 PM Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? Do you believe I am talking seriously??? ?? > > > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic o.ca> > > Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? > > candidiasis > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > Doug: > > > > You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. > > > > Bonnie > > > > _____ > > > > From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On > > > > Behalf Of dglsrichey > > > > Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM > > > > candidiasis > > > > Subject: Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I already bought your $2 ebook. Is this info somewhere else in a newer version, etc.??? Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Duncan, you make it sound like I didn't give inulin a chance, and that's irritating. I was on that stuff off and on for years, totaling at least 6 months of taking the crap. I know I did 3 months straight at one point. I have gone through well over 10 now bottles of NOW's and at least one large Fiberific. And no the gas didn't stop me. My poor health was more bridge burning than the farts. I thought it meant something good was happening, but alas, after a few weeks the gas always levels off, but the candida symptoms continue to increase. greg h. > > > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I've gone through about 15 bottles of that BOD stuff over the past year. Can't say I feel very cured. greg h > > Well, maybe you are not talking seriously, but I sure am! This is how easy it is to overcome a severe life threatening candida fungal overgrowth. It is so easy I put it in a little book for the world to read. And several thousands are reading it and regaining their health. It is this simple! > > Life and health do not have to be complicated! I am here to share just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Its is not about taking just the BOD. The BOD is one spoke in a wholistic wheel of health. You can not base your health on just one component or product. What are you eating? How is your stress levels? What chemicals do you come in contact with? How much sleep do you get? Are you a worrier and fearful? Are the constant streams of thoughts and conversations bothering you? These are some of the questions that I ask. These issues lead to immune responses, adrenaline and cortisol fluctuations which effect the GI tract, digestion and candida. This concept of taking supplements, for me, is just one avenue to regain health. We have a body, mind and spirit. Diet and supplements will work in the body, but the mind and spirit require attention and care also. This idea of " cured " is really not a reality either. We need candida in us, it is the balance that we are after. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> candidiasis Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 2:54:17 AM Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? I've gone through about 15 bottles of that BOD stuff over the past year. Can't say I feel very cured. greg h > > Well, maybe you are not talking seriously, but I sure am! This is how easy it is to overcome a severe life threatening candida fungal overgrowth. It is so easy I put it in a little book for the world to read. And several thousands are reading it and regaining their health. It is this simple! > > Life and health do not have to be complicated! I am here to share just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Yes, I have put my whole clinical program and suggested protocol in this revised edition along with more history regarding the grain and dairy issues. If you had purchased from me before you can receive this revised edition at no cost. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Keycross <crossshapedkeys@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 10:08:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: Other prebiotics? I already bought your $2 ebook. Is this info somewhere else in a newer version, etc.??? Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 There is no secret here or a cure. Candida overgrowth is a symptom of an organism that is out of balance with nature. And nature is in a constant striving for balance. Candida along with all the other fungi, molds, yeasts and bacteria are only allowed to go pathogenic when there is an imbalance, to decompose the imbalance for food for some other organism. This is NATURE! Nature has no feelings, just reality. In my opinion, it is about returning to homeostasis/balance. Just like nature. I can appreciate your energy, . This energy is so typical coming from the old Darwinian thinking of symptom relief and being in control. This kind of narrow mindedness has the potential to feed a candida overgrowth. As a persons belief is being challenged there is a chemical release in the body that interupts the energy flow and biological processes. As the ego thinks it knows all, and the human begins to believe it. The walls are built and the thinking becomes narrowed. And health becomes challenged. As long as the human is allowing the ego to call the shots and run the show, there will be constant imbalance with in the human body. It was stated in the 1600's that science is used to figure out nature and how it works so man can manipulate it and control it. This is my paraphrase. The new science of today is saying just the opposite. We are part of nature and we need to live with in its parameters to survive. Kind of funny, my native American training uses this philosophy also. We are part of NATURE. It has taken almost 400 years to come full circle back to realize that we are part of nature and humans can not control it. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: <dieguez.jorge@...> candidiasis Sent: Thu, March 25, 2010 9:43:32 PM Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? Waoooooo!!!! ! The Secret to Cure Candida by Wil Spencer. I feel sorry for those several thousands. Poor them!!!! > > > > > > From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic o.ca> > > > Subject: RE: Other prebiotics? > > > candidiasis > > > Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug: > > > > > > You might get some good results if you used A PROBIOTIC, from time to time. > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis @ groups. com] On > > > > > > Behalf Of dglsrichey > > > > > > Sent: March 23, 2010 9:37 AM > > > > > > candidiasis > > > > > > Subject: Other prebiotics? > > > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Greg, can you get well without using it? Are you getting well? Forget the inulin, do you have a working system now and if so what is it? Are you using whey ?Inulin might help some with candida but if you never had candida you could live fine without it. I had two parents that lived to about 92 before passing and never had inulin execpt occassional aspargus. Doug From: dreaminginnoother <dreaminginnoother@...> Subject: Re: Other prebiotics? candidiasis Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 2:52 AM Â Duncan, you make it sound like I didn't give inulin a chance, and that's irritating. I was on that stuff off and on for years, totaling at least 6 months of taking the crap. I know I did 3 months straight at one point. I have gone through well over 10 now bottles of NOW's and at least one large Fiberific. And no the gas didn't stop me. My poor health was more bridge burning than the farts. I thought it meant something good was happening, but alas, after a few weeks the gas always levels off, but the candida symptoms continue to increase. greg h. > > > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 What is this probiotic that Wil Spencer is talking about? What is the web site address to buy his $2 book online? Or can it be downloaded as e-book? Thanks. Ratan. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:13:10 +0530 wrote > I already bought your $2 ebook. Is this info somewhere else in a newer version, etc.??? Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 You can just go to the file section of the group and freely download my book in PDF. All the suggested probiotics are in the book or on my web site www.environotics.com with clinical notes. Wil Spencer VMSP, Naturopath, author, researcher ________________________________ From: Ratan Sharma <ratanpsych@...> crossshapedkeys@... Cc: candidiasis Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 10:58:35 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: Other prebiotics? What is this probiotic that Wil Spencer is talking about? What is the web site address to buy his $2 book online? Or can it be downloaded as e-book? Thanks. Ratan. On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:13:10 +0530 wrote > I already bought your $2 ebook. Is this info somewhere else in a newer version, etc.??? Other prebiotics? > > > > If inulin seems to bring on strange side effects what other prebiotics are > > > > an option? I have heard that soluble fiber acts as a prebiotic so is oat > > > > bran ok? If not are there other soluble fibers that one could choose from? > > > > Thanks Doug > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I agree with . This recent " confusion " we have seen in the last three months or so dilutes the group's effectiveness as a support group that has accurate data. Duncan > > Waoooooo!!!!! The Secret to Cure Candida by Wil Spencer. I feel sorry for those several thousands. Poor them!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 So, now what Doug? Probiotics eat inulin. You can't take it. Seems like a brick wall. What now? Transient soil-based organisms? Seriously, buddy, have you looked at the list of the highest inulin-containing foods? Most people who don't like inulin can't get past the first three weeks, so they reduce the inulin dose and look at the high inulin foods list before they go grocery shopping, and get on with it for three or four months. A little trust has helped. all good, Duncan > > > > > > > > Bonnie, I thought the inulin was supposed to feed the good not the bad bacteria. I have been on a probiotic for 2 years straight. Thanks Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I can't get well using it, that seems pretty evident. No, I can't say I am getting too well. ...Feeling like an impossible case... I cannot make up my mind about whey. I keep trying it, mainly for all the great press it has been getting. I find it has some positives and negatives for me, but I think overall, the negatives outweigh the positives. Some brands actually give me really bad back pain. Inulin sounded like just the thing I needed by its description. It only made things worse though. greg h > > Greg, can you get well without using it? Are you getting well? Forget the inulin, do you have a working system now and if so what is it? Are you using whey ?Inulin might help some with candida but if you never had candida you could live fine without it. I had two parents that lived to about 92 before passing and never had inulin execpt occassional aspargus. Doug > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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