Pain meds

November 3, 2002

Tylenol--acetaminophen--is only a risk if you tend to drink daily and then three

or more drinks a day, I believe. It says on the label if you do then consult

your doctor...probably so they can throw you in rehab. :-)

Back in my wild party days (the mornings after), I was also warned by my doctor

that taking acetaminophen or aspirin for hangovers was NOT a good idea.The

alcohol from the night before was still being processed by the liver.

A tablespoon of 30% alcohol shouldn't hurt you....of course I would rather have

voted for a hot toddy and said never mind to the Tylenol, ibuprofen and aspirin.

Oh wait...that's for a fever...not pain relief...anyway, a bit of information

for young party goers out there.

Karin

pain meds

Another thing to consider with Tylenol/acetominophen... is that it can cause

liver damage, especially when taken at the same time as alcohol. Odd that

they combine the two in Nyquil.... and that this connection is not well

publicized.

July 10, 2003

OH MY GOSH Hank..She stole the pills????? DId you say anything??

July 10, 2003

It's scary what people do for that drug. I think it was Dateline or

one of those nighly news programs that had a story on it a while ago,

one lady was mugged after leaving her pharmacy, one a person broke

into the pharmacy, stole all the oxycontin and broke into the

computers to find out who was on it (tho I don't know how he could do

all that before any cops showed so that part of the story I don't

know is really true), the list goes on. It's a shame this girl is so

hooked on the drug but to sell her son... she needs some serious

help. I've never been on it and told my doctor I'd rather deal with

some pain than go on that drug. Too bad they can't make meds so they

aren't addictive. Scary what drugs can do to your body and mind. I

can't access the link you attached, just out of curiosity, does it

say if she was once prescribed it legally for some sort of pain then

taken off of it and couldn't get more so she got it illegally or just

got a hold of some for a high and got hooked? Either way I know it

doesn't matter I'm just curious.

Connie

> Hi..Oh my gosh I just read about the 23 yr old girl who tried to

sell her 2

> yr old son for 500.00 so she can buy oxycontin..The meds I was on

after the

> surgery. I think some of you were also on that..I am sending the

link for those

> who want to read it..It also says its used for cancer patients..I

didnt know

> that..What a shame to be that addicted to drugs that you would do

something like

> that..

> <A HREF= " aol://4344:3167.mother.21080048.742272878 " > AOL News:

Police: Mom Tried to Sell Own Son</A>

July 10, 2003

> Hi..Oh my gosh I just read about the 23 yr old girl who tried to

sell her 2

> yr old son for 500.00 so she can buy oxycontin..The meds I was on

after the

> surgery.....

I just had cervical fusion surgery (I'll post that story later),

and they gave me that stuff. My pain levels are quite manageable,

however I had a neighbor come over to give me flowers and run an

errand for me and I'll be damned if she didn't pilfer some of those

pills, like 20 or 30. Sooo.... I had to get another rx written,

hardcopy to take to the pharmacy. Make sure I hide the pain pills

when she comes over!!!! LOL (now that the new rx is filled (-;

It's good, but not that good!

Hank

July 10, 2003

You got VERY lucky that they filled your script. Up here doctors will

not refill a script under those circumstances. I take mine right to

my pharmacy just for that reason. As soon as you walk out the door it

doesn't matter if someone stole the script or meds or if you lost it,

too bad. They have to be that way b/c of people who abuse the pain

meds. A couple of my scripts I have to pick up each time I need a

refill as narcotics can't be called into the pharmacy, has to be hand

delivered. Hide your meds and when you get your scripts, even if they

don't need to be filled for a week or whatever, get it into the

pharmacy so you don't take a chance on losing it or having someone

take the script. Your doctor could get into trouble legally for

refilling that script too soon, so just a heads up

Connie

> I just had cervical fusion surgery (I'll post that story later),

> and they gave me that stuff. My pain levels are quite manageable,

> however I had a neighbor come over to give me flowers and run an

> errand for me and I'll be damned if she didn't pilfer some of those

> pills, like 20 or 30. Sooo.... I had to get another rx written,

> hardcopy to take to the pharmacy. Make sure I hide the pain pills

> when she comes over!!!! LOL (now that the new rx is filled (-;

>

> It's good, but not that good!

>

> Hank

July 10, 2003

One more idea, if you're familiar with your meds knowing what pill is

for what etc, and you need to go somewhere and take meds with you,

put them together in a pill bottle that has no label on it. That way

if someone by chance steals them you aren't losing your whole supply

and they don't have your name or other info from the bottle. Hope

that helps

Connie

July 10, 2003

Better yet, I'll just not have her over to my place: Problem solved!

I'm assuming that's where the pills went as I had counted them the

night before, and she had made some remarks about " sharing " .

Anyhow, I forgive and forget easily. No harm done. The pain is

actually lessining and hopefully I won't need them much. They are

just good at bedtime and morning.

May 29, 2004

I am interested in your shoulder replacement, Tubbs. How was it in comparison to the hip replacement? The surgery and the recuperation? I have had both hips replaced and it is wonderful to have no more pain in my hips. But my shoulders are bothering me. I have been putting off going to the Dr. for them. But it is getting so I can't sleep at night.

Doristubbs8695 <Suzeegrape@...> wrote:

yI got sick on all pain meds for my first hip. Had a pain pump and epidual. Second took toradal at night and tylenol during the day. For the total shoulder replacement I had one dose of morphine and got sick and dizzy and still hurt. Only took tylenol from then on. For the second shoulder just took tylenol and was home the next day. Now they may have given me something while I was "out". But nothing while I was awake. I have a high tolerance for pain and found the pain less with a clear head. So to me the result of the pain meds is not worth the bother. It was much less painfull post op than pre op.Sue> In a message dated 5/29/2004 12:31:29 AM Central Standard Time, > bfitz@b...

writes:> Was taken off morphine drip today and started on Vicodin > capsules. > _____> That's a problem I need to work out. Get sick as a dog on most pain > meds......Ultram and Darvacet and, as I recall, Lortab as well. Know I may well find > it necessary post op, and don't want to compromise my rehab time with puking > my guts out. Anyone else here intolerant of pain meds?> y

June 11, 2005

you know everytime we have a really good discussion about something that seems

to be important to most of us, we get censored. so I'm going to find a group

that is willing to discuss the whole picture, not just certain parts of it.

June 11, 2005

I think I missed something??? Are you leaving the group?? Please dont leave I love to hear your knowledge and advice. What is being censored? Was there a email posted that I may not have recieved? Did I do something wrong or say something wrong to upset someone? Please enlighten me on what is going on here I am so confused. I hope I didnt do something that was wrong with the group. I am so very sorry if I did this goes out to all members and please to all members let me know I some how feel responsible and I am not sure why.

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JANINE YOU DID NOT CAUSE THIS. PLEASE READ MESSAGE # 1412 .IT SHOULD EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. PLEASE DO NOT THINK THAT ANYTHING ABOUT THIS IS YOUR FAULT. TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN

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June 12, 2005

Hi Larry,

I am guilty of discussing pain meds. I did not know

this was a no-no. I hope you can accept my apology

Lynda

--- LARRY GULLAHORN <lagullahorn68-69@...>

wrote:

> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MESSAGES CONCERNING PAIN

> MEDS IN THE GROUP LATELY. I KNOW THAT PAIN MEDS ARE

> A BIG PART OF MOST EVERYONE'S LIFE IN THIS GROUP.

> HOWEVER ,I MUST CALL EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE

> FACT THAT THE GROUP FOUNDER HAS MADE IT A

> REQUIREMENT THAT PAIN MEDS NOT BE DISCUSSED IN THE

> GROUP SETTING.

> I MUST ASK THAT THIS REQUIREMENT BE OBSERVED.

> IF ANYONE WISHES TO DISCUSS PAIN MEDS PLEASE DO SO

> IN PRIVATE EMAIL.

> IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS

> PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL ADDRESS AND I

> WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH YOU.

> AS I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL

> ADDRESS AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH YOU

> PRIVATELY

> EVERYONE TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE

> LARRY,GROUP MODERATOR

>

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June 12, 2005

No need to apologize. I hope that you will continue to post and get help from the group.

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

LARRY,group moderatorlynda ball <lmbecd@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,I am guilty of discussing pain meds. I did not knowthis was a no-no. I hope you can accept my apologyLynda--- LARRY GULLAHORN <lagullahorn68-69@...>wrote:> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MESSAGES CONCERNING PAIN> MEDS IN THE GROUP LATELY. I KNOW THAT PAIN MEDS ARE> A BIG PART OF MOST EVERYONE'S LIFE IN THIS GROUP.> HOWEVER ,I MUST CALL EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE> FACT THAT THE GROUP FOUNDER HAS MADE IT A> REQUIREMENT THAT PAIN MEDS NOT BE DISCUSSED IN THE> GROUP SETTING.> I MUST ASK THAT THIS REQUIREMENT BE OBSERVED. > IF ANYONE WISHES TO DISCUSS PAIN MEDS PLEASE DO SO> IN PRIVATE EMAIL.> IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS> PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL ADDRESS AND I> WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH

YOU.> AS I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL> ADDRESS AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH YOU> PRIVATELY> EVERYONE TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE> LARRY,GROUP MODERATOR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.htmlREMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

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June 12, 2005

No need to apologize. I hope that you will continue to post and get help from the group.

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

LARRY,group moderatorlynda ball <lmbecd@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,I am guilty of discussing pain meds. I did not knowthis was a no-no. I hope you can accept my apologyLynda--- LARRY GULLAHORN <lagullahorn68-69@...>wrote:> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MESSAGES CONCERNING PAIN> MEDS IN THE GROUP LATELY. I KNOW THAT PAIN MEDS ARE> A BIG PART OF MOST EVERYONE'S LIFE IN THIS GROUP.> HOWEVER ,I MUST CALL EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE> FACT THAT THE GROUP FOUNDER HAS MADE IT A> REQUIREMENT THAT PAIN MEDS NOT BE DISCUSSED IN THE> GROUP SETTING.> I MUST ASK THAT THIS REQUIREMENT BE OBSERVED. > IF ANYONE WISHES TO DISCUSS PAIN MEDS PLEASE DO SO> IN PRIVATE EMAIL.> IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS> PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL ADDRESS AND I> WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH

YOU.> AS I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL> ADDRESS AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH YOU> PRIVATELY> EVERYONE TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE> LARRY,GROUP MODERATOR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.htmlREMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

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June 12, 2005

No need to apologize. I hope that you will continue to post and get help from the group.

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

LARRY,group moderatorlynda ball <lmbecd@...> wrote:

Hi Larry,I am guilty of discussing pain meds. I did not knowthis was a no-no. I hope you can accept my apologyLynda--- LARRY GULLAHORN <lagullahorn68-69@...>wrote:> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MESSAGES CONCERNING PAIN> MEDS IN THE GROUP LATELY. I KNOW THAT PAIN MEDS ARE> A BIG PART OF MOST EVERYONE'S LIFE IN THIS GROUP.> HOWEVER ,I MUST CALL EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE> FACT THAT THE GROUP FOUNDER HAS MADE IT A> REQUIREMENT THAT PAIN MEDS NOT BE DISCUSSED IN THE> GROUP SETTING.> I MUST ASK THAT THIS REQUIREMENT BE OBSERVED. > IF ANYONE WISHES TO DISCUSS PAIN MEDS PLEASE DO SO> IN PRIVATE EMAIL.> IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS> PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL ADDRESS AND I> WILL BE GLAD TO DISCUSS IT WITH

YOU.> AS I SAID, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY HOME EMAIL> ADDRESS AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS MATTER WITH YOU> PRIVATELY> EVERYONE TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE> LARRY,GROUP MODERATOR> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover./online.htmlREMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

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July 17, 2005

What's wrong with taking pain pills? They are no less important than heart medication is to someone with heart problems. If there are too many side effects you need to change pain meds. Chronic pain is a disease and you treat it just like you would any other medical problem.

And I say AMEN to that. If you are hurting and need them, you are not going to get addicted. The addiction comes when you take them just to get high after your pain is gone.

Hang on, Guys and Gals, you can do this!

Marge

July 24, 2005

If you are hurting and need them >>> It is much easier to maintain your pain control when you take your meds as needed.... verse waiting to the point that you just can't tolerate it and THEN requesting them. Plus you end up how much longer in pain waiting for the meds to help ? Sides... chances are... they'll be way more effective for you taking regularly the first week and you'll do way better exercising or getting up & about.

The addiction comes when you take them just to get high after your pain is gone. >>> Actually addiction comes at various levels for different individuals due to metabolizing rates. Age & body weight are just a few of the many things that play a role in determining just how one will react to a given drug. It's multiple dosing over an expanded period of time that can create problems. There are "addictive behaviors" to watch for... when the same dose don't fix you like it once did... that's generally the biggest point toward your headed toward dependency. Best thing to do is keep your doctor well informed talk about EXACTLY how it effects you~ POINT OUT differences which you notice. Bottom line is if you don't need them then don't take them but be aware of what the habit forming behaviors to a drug.

September 28, 2005

my ortho gave me two prescriptions leading up to my surgery, then one when i

left the hospital. After the surgery i had my two week follow up. i tried

to call out of it because i was feeling good but i did not want to sit in

the car for an hour each way; i knew i couldnt handle that. the

receptionist/nurse said that it was important that i not reschedule this

appt. so i went, and it hurt. and i sat in the waiting room for 40 min,

then in the back for an additional 30 min. i was pretty much in tears by

the time the doctor came into the room. then he asks whats wrong and i

explain to him that i didnt want to come and he asked " who made you? "

basically we almost started arguing about why i was there. he told me i

didnt need to be there blah blah blah. i was like whatever can we just get

on with it. he said " we need to talk about something far more important;

your addiction to narcotics. i went off. he apologized and started to

leave. he was half way out the door before i could stop him and ask if he

was even going to look at my back. why was i subjected to three hours of

unecessary pain? he lifted up my shirt said it looked fine and asked me if

i needed another prescription for pain meds. i will never go back to that

doctor, not even for my six week follow up. i ended up going to my family

doctor. he gave me one prescription after that last one to wean myself off

of my meds. it didnt work, and now i feel like an addict (cause im

addicted) but i should be made to feel ashamed about this from the doctors

who gave me the medicine for so long to begin with. to top it all off im

still in pain, but now i dont know if im just exagerating it cuz my body

wants meds.

thanks for listening

rob

>From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Pain meds

>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:04:33 -0000

>

>Hi why didn't your dr wean you off them slowly?? Thats what my

>drs told me they do with people who are lucky enough to do well after

>surgery. I am sure there are many people in the group who would not

>do

>well without their pain meds all of the sudden. Geez I can even tell

>when its past time for me to take my nuerontin or a muscle relaxer

>cause the dang nerve goes to screaming louder just to remind me

>Sharon Group Owner

>

>****Also fast note to everyone, please do not mention what kind of

>pain meds you take in post in the group. I know everyone takes some

>kind of med or another but this is for your own safety. And any post

>with pain medications mentioned will be deleted. Sorry gang those are

>the rules of the group*********

>

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September 28, 2005

I can understand what you are going through. My husband now is going through withdrawals now for a week. Doctors are quick to give you the drugs and then take them away.

Hang in there, it will get better.

Ingrid Gehle <robgehle@...> wrote:

my ortho gave me two prescriptions leading up to my surgery, then one when i left the hospital. After the surgery i had my two week follow up. i tried to call out of it because i was feeling good but i did not want to sit in the car for an hour each way; i knew i couldnt handle that. the receptionist/nurse said that it was important that i not reschedule this appt. so i went, and it hurt. and i sat in the waiting room for 40 min, then in the back for an additional 30 min. i was pretty much in tears by the time the doctor came into the room. then he asks whats wrong and i explain to him that i didnt want to come and he asked "who made you?" basically we almost started arguing about why i was there. he told me i didnt need to be there blah blah blah. i was like whatever can we just get on with it. he said "we need to talk about something far

more important; your addiction to narcotics. i went off. he apologized and started to leave. he was half way out the door before i could stop him and ask if he was even going to look at my back. why was i subjected to three hours of unecessary pain? he lifted up my shirt said it looked fine and asked me if i needed another prescription for pain meds. i will never go back to that doctor, not even for my six week follow up. i ended up going to my family doctor. he gave me one prescription after that last one to wean myself off of my meds. it didnt work, and now i feel like an addict (cause im addicted) but i should be made to feel ashamed about this from the doctors who gave me the medicine for so long to begin with. to top it all off im still in pain, but now i dont know if im just exagerating it cuz my body wants meds.thanks for listeningrob>From: "darkstarzz1019" >Reply-To:

neck pain >neck pain >Subject: Pain meds>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:04:33 -0000>>Hi why didn't your dr wean you off them slowly?? Thats what my>drs told me they do with people who are lucky enough to do well after>surgery. I am sure there are many people in the group who would not>do>well without their pain meds all of the sudden. Geez I can even tell>when its past time for me to take my nuerontin or a muscle relaxer>cause the dang nerve goes to screaming louder just to remind me >Sharon Group Owner>>****Also fast note to everyone, please do not mention what kind of>pain meds you take in post in the group. I know everyone takes some>kind of med or another but this is for your own safety. And any post>with pain medications mentioned will be deleted. Sorry gang those are>the rules

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September 29, 2005

thank you Ingrid

I have finally found some help in this area. Another member of the group

had lots of helpful ideas.

take care

rob

>From: Ingrid McNeely <bluehelpone@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: RE: Pain meds

>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT)

>

>I can understand what you are going through. My husband now is going

>through withdrawals now for a week. Doctors are quick to give you the

>drugs and then take them away.

>Hang in there, it will get better.

>

>Ingrid

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September 29, 2005

thank you Ingrid

I have finally found some help in this area. Another member of the group

had lots of helpful ideas.

take care

rob

>From: Ingrid McNeely <bluehelpone@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: RE: Pain meds

>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT)

>

>I can understand what you are going through. My husband now is going

>through withdrawals now for a week. Doctors are quick to give you the

>drugs and then take them away.

>Hang in there, it will get better.

>

>Ingrid

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thank you Ingrid

I have finally found some help in this area. Another member of the group

had lots of helpful ideas.

take care

rob

>From: Ingrid McNeely <bluehelpone@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: RE: Pain meds

>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:38:09 -0700 (PDT)

>

>I can understand what you are going through. My husband now is going

>through withdrawals now for a week. Doctors are quick to give you the

>drugs and then take them away.

>Hang in there, it will get better.

>

>Ingrid

>

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October 1, 2005

Hi Rob sorry to hear your dr gave you such a hard time. I had a

similar thing after my first surgery, the dr's thought I was ALL

WELL so as soon as I out of surgery it was " well its pain from your

surgery NOT pain anymore " I begged to differ and they didn't listen.

All my pain meds were taken away and fasttttttttttt and of course I

went thru detox cause my body was dependant on them. The surgery

didn't last and I was lucky that I got them back pretty fast but I

still felt the withdrawl. And my dr had promised me he'd take me off

them slowly but his idea of slowly and mine differed alot. Anyway I

am sure many of us are DEPENDANT on pain meds, how could we not be

when they are addicting medications. But still your dr could have

said Dependant and not addicted I hate that word. I've been told

that before by well meaning family and friends, one even called me

an addict!!!!!boy did I go off on them. But still it hurt because I

didn't make myself, my pain made me dependant on them, there is a

difference that people forget to see. What ideas did someone have

for you I'm curious and I'm sure they might help someone else in the

group if you would share them. Thanks and good luck, just remember

take it slow and remember to exercise and do things that will

distract your brain and body when the urges hit, thats the best

thing I found to do. Best wishes Sharon Group Owner

> my ortho gave me two prescriptions leading up to my surgery, then

one when i

> left the hospital. After the surgery i had my two week follow

up. i tried

> to call out of it because i was feeling good but i did not want to

sit in

> the car for an hour each way; i knew i couldnt handle that. the

> receptionist/nurse said that it was important that i not

reschedule this

> appt. so i went, and it hurt. and i sat in the waiting room for

40 min,

> then in the back for an additional 30 min. i was pretty much in

tears by

> the time the doctor came into the room. then he asks whats wrong

and i

> explain to him that i didnt want to come and he asked " who made

you? "

> basically we almost started arguing about why i was there. he

told me i

> didnt need to be there blah blah blah. i was like whatever can we

just get

> on with it. he said " we need to talk about something far more

important;

> your addiction to narcotics. i went off. he apologized and

started to

> leave. he was half way out the door before i could stop him and

ask if he

> was even going to look at my back. why was i subjected to three

hours of

> unecessary pain? he lifted up my shirt said it looked fine and

asked me if

> i needed another prescription for pain meds. i will never go back

to that

> doctor, not even for my six week follow up. i ended up going to

my family

> doctor. he gave me one prescription after that last one to wean

myself off

> of my meds. it didnt work, and now i feel like an addict (cause

im

> addicted) but i should be made to feel ashamed about this from the

doctors

> who gave me the medicine for so long to begin with. to top it all

off im

> still in pain, but now i dont know if im just exagerating it cuz

my body

> wants meds.

> thanks for listening

> rob

>

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October 1, 2005