Re: Topamax Question Just started...

[Guest guest]

Ok got my part fixed, forgot how my name was in there so I'm glad I had the link

from you Nick! LOL Now the question(s) of the day... why are you and Joe

hiding, or should I ask what are your hidden identities?? LOL jk I know that's

private info, just teasin ya's And no, in case anyone is wondering, I do not

have Emerald eyes... I have Hazel... but HazelEyz just doesn't have the same

effect LOL

Have a great night all, I need to lay down for a bit, back is killing me and

can't even enjoy dinner Wonder if we could do that meeting you all were

talking about not too long ago and just see about a meeting room with beds

instead of chairs so we could really be comfy? Well, at least it was hopefully a

funny thought, all those professionals in their suits and sitting in stiff

chairs and us in sweats layin on beds in our meeting room " Can the next person

please roll their bed up to the board and pinpoint where their pain is without

pointing yet again to their surgeon and using the hotels knives? " LOL The best

thing about a trip like that besides meeting people who know how each of us

feels and sharing useful info is the use of a pool/whirlpool for a couple days,

that would be heaven enough for me... outdoor pool in the 80 degree weather

would be a plus! I have got to lay down now or else lol ttyl

Connie

Re: Topamax Question Just started...

> Hi Connie,

>

> Actually on your profile it said 34. When you go to the main groups

> site click on photos.

>

> Or try:

> http://photos./group/spinaldisorderssupport/lst

>

> -Nick

>

>

>

>

> > Oh no please don't tell me I said 34... I turned the dreaded 35 in

> February If I said 34 I apologize, I can't blame that on my

> memory, that's just wishful thinking on my part LOL My curious mind

> has to know tho... I've heard about this photo section a few times,

> where is it at? I thought it was just a joke at first LOL

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Joe, Joe, Joe....

>

> I don't know what to say, you have me in a bit of shock with that one LOL

I do think you're WAY Overdue tho!!! LOL

>

> I have been curious and through all the posts over the year+ that I've

been reading, I seem to have missed most everyones ages.. not trying to be

nosy, just curious I guess with how young/old everyone has been when we've

been struck down with disabling back/neck/etc problems. I just turned

*Choke* 35 in February... as I said, my daughter is 9, will be 10 in May.. I

was never married, dated her dad for 12 years then 7years ago decided I

didn't want to live with an alcoholic anymore, I couldn't take it. That's my

life story LOL Born and still living in sburg (Toledo), Ohio, wishing

I could move anywhere warm, the cold here kills my back.

>

Connie, I know what you mean. I'm 38 now, and have had back problems for 8

years, so I really haven't sought out

female companionship. As bad as I feel, sometimes it's tough to keep it

from flowing onto other people. I didn't

want to get involved, and now that this possible third surgery is looming,

I'm definitely just not looking for a social life.

> Anyhow....As for the Neurontin... I never had the negative side effects of

weight gain, etc, I'm wondering if I should have just stuck with that pain

med.... or if I will be ok with this one if I take it at bedtime as I was

told, I'll have to see how my taste buds are acting in the mornings. It's

weird, it's almost like my tongue where I put the pills is numb when I take

a drink, that feeling in a way, then again not a numb feeling, just a

different taste...it's hard to explain, hopefully someone understands how I

mean tho.

>

I had the weight gain with neurontin. I would eat even when I wasn't

hungry, more than even a big guy like me usually does. I'm

glad I read about Topomax, and now the side effects, so I've increased my

fibre intake and liquid consumption.

> Oh quick background fyi ( and others) who may not remember me... 2

unsuccessful L5-S1 Surgeries, currently on duragesic patch, percocet and now

topamax instead of neurontin ... Pain started Feb of 2000, put off work May

15, 2000, first surgery March 2001, second surgery October 2001 (same disk

re-ruptured 2 weeks after first surgery) .... in the Very shortest way I can

put it all.... LOL Did go thru the meds, then physical therapy, then

injections, etc etc etc

>

Connie, what's next for you? I'm hoping that you can see someone that can

help you with the pain. Would it be surgery, or a TENS

unit? Let us know.

joe

[Guest guest]

> Joe, Joe, Joe....

>

> I don't know what to say, you have me in a bit of shock with that one LOL

I do think you're WAY Overdue tho!!! LOL

>

> I have been curious and through all the posts over the year+ that I've

been reading, I seem to have missed most everyones ages.. not trying to be

nosy, just curious I guess with how young/old everyone has been when we've

been struck down with disabling back/neck/etc problems. I just turned

*Choke* 35 in February... as I said, my daughter is 9, will be 10 in May.. I

was never married, dated her dad for 12 years then 7years ago decided I

didn't want to live with an alcoholic anymore, I couldn't take it. That's my

life story LOL Born and still living in sburg (Toledo), Ohio, wishing

I could move anywhere warm, the cold here kills my back.

>

Connie, I know what you mean. I'm 38 now, and have had back problems for 8

years, so I really haven't sought out

female companionship. As bad as I feel, sometimes it's tough to keep it

from flowing onto other people. I didn't

want to get involved, and now that this possible third surgery is looming,

I'm definitely just not looking for a social life.

> Anyhow....As for the Neurontin... I never had the negative side effects of

weight gain, etc, I'm wondering if I should have just stuck with that pain

med.... or if I will be ok with this one if I take it at bedtime as I was

told, I'll have to see how my taste buds are acting in the mornings. It's

weird, it's almost like my tongue where I put the pills is numb when I take

a drink, that feeling in a way, then again not a numb feeling, just a

different taste...it's hard to explain, hopefully someone understands how I

mean tho.

>

I had the weight gain with neurontin. I would eat even when I wasn't

hungry, more than even a big guy like me usually does. I'm

glad I read about Topomax, and now the side effects, so I've increased my

fibre intake and liquid consumption.

> Oh quick background fyi ( and others) who may not remember me... 2

unsuccessful L5-S1 Surgeries, currently on duragesic patch, percocet and now

topamax instead of neurontin ... Pain started Feb of 2000, put off work May

15, 2000, first surgery March 2001, second surgery October 2001 (same disk

re-ruptured 2 weeks after first surgery) .... in the Very shortest way I can

put it all.... LOL Did go thru the meds, then physical therapy, then

injections, etc etc etc

>

Connie, what's next for you? I'm hoping that you can see someone that can

help you with the pain. Would it be surgery, or a TENS

unit? Let us know.

joe

[Guest guest]

> I wasn't chewing on the Topamax.. the taste question is because I just

started on Topamax and after I took them, Pepsi and foods, any foods as I'm

noticing more and more, are not tasting like they used to, so I was

wondering if anyone else had this side effect Thanks!

> Connie

Connie, you have to admit that they do look like brown M & M mini's.

I make sure that those and my Elavil don't touch my tongue. They do

numb it for a bit.

joe

[Guest guest]

> I wasn't chewing on the Topamax.. the taste question is because I just

started on Topamax and after I took them, Pepsi and foods, any foods as I'm

noticing more and more, are not tasting like they used to, so I was

wondering if anyone else had this side effect Thanks!

> Connie

Connie, you have to admit that they do look like brown M & M mini's.

I make sure that those and my Elavil don't touch my tongue. They do

numb it for a bit.

joe

[Guest guest]

> Hi Connie,

>

> Blonde, 34, single and looking, hmmmm..... You can post pics in the

> photo section, hehe...

>

> -Nick

>

Just attach the to the e-mail.

joe

[Guest guest]

> Hi Connie,

>

> Blonde, 34, single and looking, hmmmm..... You can post pics in the

> photo section, hehe...

>

> -Nick

>

Just attach the to the e-mail.

joe

[Guest guest]

> Ok got my part fixed, forgot how my name was in there so I'm glad I had

the link from you Nick! LOL Now the question(s) of the day... why are you

and Joe hiding, or should I ask what are your hidden identities?? LOL jk I

know that's private info, just teasin ya's And no, in case anyone is

wondering, I do not have Emerald eyes... I have Hazel... but HazelEyz just

doesn't have the same effect LOL

Connie -

I didn't know that I was hiding. I don't access the group through . I

get all the posts as e-mail and I do a " reply "

and then delete the stuff that doesn't pertain to my reply. I am very

camera shy. I'm twice the person that I should

be. The last picture I had taken was of my Cervical scar by my surgeon

because he was surprised that

someone with diabetes and HBP could survive, much less recover from what I

went through. I've dodged

two bullets and looks like I'll try to dodge a third soon.

I've looked at the link that Nick pointed to, where are the pictures of the

group?

joe

[Guest guest]

> Ok got my part fixed, forgot how my name was in there so I'm glad I had

the link from you Nick! LOL Now the question(s) of the day... why are you

and Joe hiding, or should I ask what are your hidden identities?? LOL jk I

know that's private info, just teasin ya's And no, in case anyone is

wondering, I do not have Emerald eyes... I have Hazel... but HazelEyz just

doesn't have the same effect LOL

Connie -

I didn't know that I was hiding. I don't access the group through . I

get all the posts as e-mail and I do a " reply "

and then delete the stuff that doesn't pertain to my reply. I am very

camera shy. I'm twice the person that I should

be. The last picture I had taken was of my Cervical scar by my surgeon

because he was surprised that

someone with diabetes and HBP could survive, much less recover from what I

went through. I've dodged

two bullets and looks like I'll try to dodge a third soon.

I've looked at the link that Nick pointed to, where are the pictures of the

group?

joe

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

My profile should show, hmmm. Well anyway if we all gathered

together to meet we would need beds by the time the journey was over

and some of us for other reasons, lol.

-Nick

> >

> > > Oh no please don't tell me I said 34... I turned the dreaded

35 in

> > February If I said 34 I apologize, I can't blame that on my

> > memory, that's just wishful thinking on my part LOL My curious

mind

> > has to know tho... I've heard about this photo section a few

times,

> > where is it at? I thought it was just a joke at first LOL

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

My profile should show, hmmm. Well anyway if we all gathered

together to meet we would need beds by the time the journey was over

and some of us for other reasons, lol.

-Nick

> >

> > > Oh no please don't tell me I said 34... I turned the dreaded

35 in

> > February If I said 34 I apologize, I can't blame that on my

> > memory, that's just wishful thinking on my part LOL My curious

mind

> > has to know tho... I've heard about this photo section a few

times,

> > where is it at? I thought it was just a joke at first LOL

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

It seems that some time ago people like us were regulars posting and

decided to post their pics. Now we are the new kids on the block and

nobody took the chance to post some pics of themselves.

-Nick

> I didn't know that I was hiding. I don't access the group through

. I

> get all the posts as e-mail and I do a " reply "

> and then delete the stuff that doesn't pertain to my reply. I am

very

> camera shy. I'm twice the person that I should

> be. The last picture I had taken was of my Cervical scar by my

surgeon

> because he was surprised that

> someone with diabetes and HBP could survive, much less recover

from what I

> went through. I've dodged

> two bullets and looks like I'll try to dodge a third soon.

>

> I've looked at the link that Nick pointed to, where are the

pictures of the

> group?

>

> joe

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

It seems that some time ago people like us were regulars posting and

decided to post their pics. Now we are the new kids on the block and

nobody took the chance to post some pics of themselves.

-Nick

> I didn't know that I was hiding. I don't access the group through

. I

> get all the posts as e-mail and I do a " reply "

> and then delete the stuff that doesn't pertain to my reply. I am

very

> camera shy. I'm twice the person that I should

> be. The last picture I had taken was of my Cervical scar by my

surgeon

> because he was surprised that

> someone with diabetes and HBP could survive, much less recover

from what I

> went through. I've dodged

> two bullets and looks like I'll try to dodge a third soon.

>

> I've looked at the link that Nick pointed to, where are the

pictures of the

> group?

>

> joe

[Guest guest]

Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and odd but they

didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my other meds if possible

(except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why yours are brown in color, you did

say they are the 25 dose right?

I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those numbing for a short

time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh I did want to tell everyone

also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after smoking for almost 10 years (the second

time of quitting, first time I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter,

started back again when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey,

don't know how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't easy, I did

cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c I was hiding it from my

daughter who was so proud of me. Of course NOW I get the $6 off a carton of

Marlboro coupons, geez haha

Connie

Re: Topamax Question Just started...

>

>

> > I wasn't chewing on the Topamax.. the taste question is because I just

> started on Topamax and after I took them, Pepsi and foods, any foods as I'm

> noticing more and more, are not tasting like they used to, so I was

> wondering if anyone else had this side effect Thanks!

> > Connie

>

> Connie, you have to admit that they do look like brown M & M mini's.

> I make sure that those and my Elavil don't touch my tongue. They do

> numb it for a bit.

>

> joe

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and odd but they

didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my other meds if possible

(except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why yours are brown in color, you did

say they are the 25 dose right?

I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those numbing for a short

time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh I did want to tell everyone

also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after smoking for almost 10 years (the second

time of quitting, first time I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter,

started back again when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey,

don't know how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't easy, I did

cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c I was hiding it from my

daughter who was so proud of me. Of course NOW I get the $6 off a carton of

Marlboro coupons, geez haha

Connie

Re: Topamax Question Just started...

>

>

> > I wasn't chewing on the Topamax.. the taste question is because I just

> started on Topamax and after I took them, Pepsi and foods, any foods as I'm

> noticing more and more, are not tasting like they used to, so I was

> wondering if anyone else had this side effect Thanks!

> > Connie

>

> Connie, you have to admit that they do look like brown M & M mini's.

> I make sure that those and my Elavil don't touch my tongue. They do

> numb it for a bit.

>

> joe

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Connie,

Mine are white too. Just make sure when you pop it in your mouth it

is top side up, it wont taste as bad.

-Nick

> Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and

odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my

other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why

yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh

I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after

smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first time

I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back again

when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't know

how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c

I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of course

NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> Connie

[Guest guest]

Connie,

Mine are white too. Just make sure when you pop it in your mouth it

is top side up, it wont taste as bad.

-Nick

> Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and

odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my

other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why

yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh

I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after

smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first time

I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back again

when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't know

how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c

I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of course

NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> Connie

[Guest guest]

I think pictures would be a super idea! It was really nice for me

to link Nick's " voice " to what he looks like - sure makes it more

personal. And may I say I appreciate the muscles! I just uploaded

mine last night.

[Guest guest]

I think pictures would be a super idea! It was really nice for me

to link Nick's " voice " to what he looks like - sure makes it more

personal. And may I say I appreciate the muscles! I just uploaded

mine last night.

[Guest guest]

LOL You goof!

Doc told me to stop taking them after the first time when I told her about the

no tasting, it's now Saturday about noon and I Still have no taste buds :(

Will have to see what happens when Monday comes around, doc told me to wait till

taste came back, take meds again and see if it happened again to make sure it

was the meds... but I don't know what else could have kicked off my taste buds

so fast! Ahh well lets hope I get them back, if I can't taste chocolate again

I'm a goner! lol

Connie

Re: Topamax Question Just started...

> Connie,

>

> Mine are white too. Just make sure when you pop it in your mouth it

> is top side up, it wont taste as bad.

>

> -Nick

>

>

>

> > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and

> odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my

> other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why

> yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh

> I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after

> smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first time

> I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back again

> when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't know

> how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

> shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

> easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c

> I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of course

> NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > Connie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL You goof!

Doc told me to stop taking them after the first time when I told her about the

no tasting, it's now Saturday about noon and I Still have no taste buds :(

Will have to see what happens when Monday comes around, doc told me to wait till

taste came back, take meds again and see if it happened again to make sure it

was the meds... but I don't know what else could have kicked off my taste buds

so fast! Ahh well lets hope I get them back, if I can't taste chocolate again

I'm a goner! lol

Connie

Re: Topamax Question Just started...

> Connie,

>

> Mine are white too. Just make sure when you pop it in your mouth it

> is top side up, it wont taste as bad.

>

> -Nick

>

>

>

> > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other... and

> odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with my

> other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder why

> yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on them. Oh

> I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15 after

> smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first time

> I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back again

> when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't know

> how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

> shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

> easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible b/c

> I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of course

> NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > Connie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Do you have problems with your sinuses? Maybe they are effecting

your taste? What other meds are u on?

-Nick

> > > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other...

and

> > odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with

my

> > other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder

why

> > yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> > > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> > numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on

them. Oh

> > I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15

after

> > smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first

time

> > I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back

again

> > when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't

know

> > how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

> > shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

> > easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible

b/c

> > I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of

course

> > NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > > Connie

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

Do you have problems with your sinuses? Maybe they are effecting

your taste? What other meds are u on?

-Nick

> > > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the other...

and

> > odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do with

my

> > other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder

why

> > yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose right?

> > > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> > numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on

them. Oh

> > I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15

after

> > smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting, first

time

> > I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back

again

> > when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't

know

> > how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even more

> > shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it wasn't

> > easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling horrible

b/c

> > I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of

course

> > NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > > Connie

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Nick, I was thinking about that this morning as well. The chronic

sinus infections I had, and subsquent surgery pretty much eliminated

my sense of smell. And prior to the surgery, some of the meds I was

on played havoc with smell as well.

> > > > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the

other...

> and

> > > odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do

with

> my

> > > other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder

> why

> > > yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose

right?

> > > > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> > > numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on

> them. Oh

> > > I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15

> after

> > > smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting,

first

> time

> > > I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back

> again

> > > when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't

> know

> > > how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even

more

> > > shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it

wasn't

> > > easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling

horrible

> b/c

> > > I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of

> course

> > > NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > > > Connie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Nick, I was thinking about that this morning as well. The chronic

sinus infections I had, and subsquent surgery pretty much eliminated

my sense of smell. And prior to the surgery, some of the meds I was

on played havoc with smell as well.

> > > > Mine are white, say " Top " on one side and " 25 " on the

other...

> and

> > > odd but they didn't give me a generic of them like they do

with

> my

> > > other meds if possible (except the Duragesic patch)...I wonder

> why

> > > yours are brown in color, you did say they are the 25 dose

right?

> > > > I'm not on Elavil but thanks for lettin me know about those

> > > numbing for a short time in case my doc ever did put me on

> them. Oh

> > > I did want to tell everyone also.. I quit smoking on March 15

> after

> > > smoking for almost 10 years (the second time of quitting,

first

> time

> > > I quit was when I was pregnant with my daughter, started back

> again

> > > when she was a couple months old) I stopped cold turkey, don't

> know

> > > how the hell I managed to do it that way but I did and even

more

> > > shocking I've lost weight instead of gaining. Anyhow, it

wasn't

> > > easy, I did cheat a few times but got tired of feeling

horrible

> b/c

> > > I was hiding it from my daughter who was so proud of me. Of

> course

> > > NOW I get the $6 off a carton of Marlboro coupons, geez haha

> > > > Connie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >