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Hi Bev,

Yes, you can do a lot of lentils, garbanzo beans, as well as some great

" Nutloafs " that don't contain animal products " vegetarian " foods. Here is an

excellent link for recipes for you.

Blessings!

http://www.modernmanna.org/vegan_cooking.asp

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Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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I think you are getting poor information. You do understand that gall bladder

probs are hypothyroid? Read Hypothyroidism Type 2 the Epidemic by Mark Starr

MD. You will develop many " diseases " if you don't get proper thyroid/adrenal

treatment. Taking cholesterol meds and avoiding meat and dairy will have you

on the fast track to grave illness, as cholesterol is needed to make hormones.

Sounds like your doc and you are getting very confused.

Gracia

Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the

same?Cause many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if

precautions are taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen

to remove the Gall bladder without bothering about the consequences of the

procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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tempeh is not bad at all. I eat light flaky fishes (tilapia), lentils, chick

pea salads, vegetarian burritos (beans, rice, chick peas, lots of veggies,

etc....) good luck!

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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My friend had her gall bladder removed and her current doctor (homeopathic) is

so upset that they removed it years ago. There are many alternatives you just

have to find the right doctor. My friend is so healthy too but her system does

breakdown a lot. All organs are important to have, you need all the players on

the team to win. Check the alternative options before they convince you that

you only have one.

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote: Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the same?Cause

many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions are

taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the Gall

bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Bev,

You wrote:

>

>...Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

> or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

Indirectly both. Unfermented soy is toxic to thyroid gland function, and

it ties up thyroid hormones in the blood, whether they came from your

thyroid or a pill bottle.

However, _fermented_ soy products do not have the thyro-toxic

properties. These include miso, natto, tempeh, soy sauce, and soy milk.

At least the goitrogenic components are greatly reduced, suggesting that

moderate use is safe.

Chuck

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Chuck B wrote:

>

>...However, _fermented_ soy products do not have the thyro-toxic

> properties. These include miso, natto, tempeh, soy sauce, and soy milk.

> At least the goitrogenic components are greatly reduced, suggesting that

> moderate use is safe.

The soy milk must ALSO be fermented. The stuff in baby formula is NOT

fermented.

Chuck

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You wrote:

> ...I read about 10 yrs. ago that the isolflavones in

> soy interrupt the function of the gland, does that mean tempeh has no

> isoflavones? ...

I don't think so. Fermentation is not supposed to reduce isoflavones. If

anything, it is claimed to removed chemicals that oppose the

isoflavones. The bad actor is the group called goitrogens, which I

believe are thyroid specific enzymes and enzyme inhibitors. However,

there are a lot of other " anti-nutrients " in the unfermented bean. I

can't vouch for the accuracy of this page, but it seems to offer a lot

of potential explanation:

http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm

>...I unsubcribed days ago and just wondering when my messages

> will stop being sent.

You may be subscribed under more than one address, or you simply failed

to complete the unsubscription process. You should have been cut off

almost immediately, certain not in days. I would suggest you try again.

Chuck

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I know a guy who's Doctor put him on Lipitor for his cholestrol and told him to

cut out meat and dairy. When he went back to the doctor his cholestrol was

worse. He then went to a homeopathic/nutritionist who told him to put meat and

dairy back (ORGANIC ONLY) but only 2-3 times a week. Cut out refined carbs and

sugar, stop the lipitor and take fish oils (and something else that I can't

remember right now). When he went back his cholestrol was fine. Just remember

when dealing with western med doctors (I have personal friends who are docs)

they do not cover nutrition in medical school. I personly do not believe in

eating animals but if you go the route I chose you need to really eat healthy.

I know vegetarians who eat only pasta, bread, fried crap, sugar etc....That's

not me. OK, good luck!

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I think you are getting poor information. You do understand that gall bladder

probs are hypothyroid? Read Hypothyroidism Type 2 the Epidemic by Mark Starr MD.

You will develop many " diseases " if you don't get proper thyroid/adrenal

treatment. Taking cholesterol meds and avoiding meat and dairy will have you on

the fast track to grave illness, as cholesterol is needed to make hormones.

Sounds like your doc and you are getting very confused.

Gracia

Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Thanks! I love Dr. Mercola, I subscribe to his newsletter and get it once a

week, it's free. Thanks again.

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: ,

You wrote:

> ...I read about 10 yrs. ago that the isolflavones in

> soy interrupt the function of the gland, does that mean tempeh has no

> isoflavones? ...

I don't think so. Fermentation is not supposed to reduce isoflavones. If

anything, it is claimed to removed chemicals that oppose the

isoflavones. The bad actor is the group called goitrogens, which I

believe are thyroid specific enzymes and enzyme inhibitors. However,

there are a lot of other " anti-nutrients " in the unfermented bean. I

can't vouch for the accuracy of this page, but it seems to offer a lot

of potential explanation:

http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm

>...I unsubcribed days ago and just wondering when my messages

> will stop being sent.

You may be subscribed under more than one address, or you simply failed

to complete the unsubscription process. You should have been cut off

almost immediately, certain not in days. I would suggest you try again.

Chuck

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Hi Gracia,

Yes, I see that.., but I have to admit eating the cholesterol foods sure do

have me rolling, moaning and grutting from pain and taking it away I'm doing not

too bad..

thanks

Bev

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I think you are getting poor information. You do understand that gall bladder

probs are hypothyroid? Read Hypothyroidism Type 2 the Epidemic by Mark Starr MD.

You will develop many " diseases " if you don't get proper thyroid/adrenal

treatment. Taking cholesterol meds and avoiding meat and dairy will have you on

the fast track to grave illness, as cholesterol is needed to make hormones.

Sounds like your doc and you are getting very confused.

Gracia

Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Hi Puneet,

Oh Yes,,,,,, I have been to the ER two times now... severe pain on both side

of my torso.. I can't hardly move when this happens.. they have confirmed the

gallstones. I'm trying the no cholesterol diet now and so far not too bad..

Since these last attacks I have been so afraid just to eat anything at first but

not I no I can't eat cholesterol foods it makes it so much worse..

Bev

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the same?Cause

many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions are

taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the Gall

bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Hi ,

Yea, I have did the research.. There is a medicine that one can take but it

takes two years to work then when you stop taking it they come back. At this

time I don't know if there is infection or not yet, but I wouldn't doubt it..

the way I feel..It's still going on.. I just know if I ate a food with

cholesterol I would be back at the ER in no time.. One of the things is is if I

don't get if taken care of soon it could cause perminant damage to my pancreas..

chronic pancreasits... don't want that......but we'll see what the doc. says

tomarrow.....

thanks

Bev

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote:

My friend had her gall bladder removed and her current doctor

(homeopathic) is so upset that they removed it years ago. There are many

alternatives you just have to find the right doctor. My friend is so healthy too

but her system does breakdown a lot. All organs are important to have, you need

all the players on the team to win. Check the alternative options before they

convince you that you only have one.

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote: Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the same?Cause

many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions are

taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the Gall

bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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I treated my gall bladder attacks with Armour. Attacks stopped immediately

and never came back. Do you know what cholesterol does in the body? Gall

bladder depends upon fat to work properly too.

Gracia

Hi Puneet,

Oh Yes,,,,,, I have been to the ER two times now... severe pain on both side

of my torso.. I can't hardly move when this happens.. they have confirmed the

gallstones. I'm trying the no cholesterol diet now and so far not too bad..

Since these last attacks I have been so afraid just to eat anything at first but

not I no I can't eat cholesterol foods it makes it so much worse..

Bev

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the

same?Cause many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions

are taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the

Gall bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Yes and there are many good healthy sources of fat for the gall bladder to

depend upon. Meat and dairy are not 2 of them.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I treated my gall bladder attacks with Armour. Attacks stopped immediately and

never came back. Do you know what cholesterol does in the body? Gall bladder

depends upon fat to work properly too.

Gracia

Hi Puneet,

Oh Yes,,,,,, I have been to the ER two times now... severe pain on both side of

my torso.. I can't hardly move when this happens.. they have confirmed the

gallstones. I'm trying the no cholesterol diet now and so far not too bad..

Since these last attacks I have been so afraid just to eat anything at first but

not I no I can't eat cholesterol foods it makes it so much worse..

Bev

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the same?Cause

many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions are

taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the Gall

bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Hi ,

I would like to ask you to consider your comments about meat and dairy -

since you do comment on this topic quite often.

The blood type diet, for example, recognises that many types of people

need to have meat for health. Obviously I would only recommend organic

meat or dairy for those who need it.

In my case I was a strict vegetarian for many years - not the junk food

type - I ate really well. But after the birth of my second child it

became clear that I wasn't recovering and after trying everything else

my holistic doc put me on fish and chicken - just a small amount once a

week.

Everything in me emotionally and spiritually prefers to be vegetarian

but my body just does not do as well without animal protein. I am a type

O.

For me eating meat is medicine - I don't enjoy it much but I've tried

many times to do without it and have not been able to. Beans and lentils

and tofu give me tummy ache and gas, Soy gives me allergies. Meat goes

down like a dream, digests easily and I don't get constipated -

opposite to what all the hard line vegetarian experts will tell you -

and believe me I've been reading health books and practising good health

sine the 70's so I know all the arguments against meat - and believed

them all myself.

What I now believe from experience is that if you are not a natural meat

eating type then you will not be able to digest it properly - my two

daughters are both vegetarians, they have never eaten meat in their

lives - they are type A - it works well for them.

I hope this give you a different perspective and allow for more tolerant

coments on our forum in future.

kind regards,

Kerry

Re: soy??

Yes and there are many good healthy sources of fat for the gall bladder

to depend upon. Meat and dairy are not 2 of them.

Gracia <circe@... <mailto:circe%40gwi.net> > wrote:

I treated my gall bladder attacks with Armour. Attacks stopped

immediately and never came back. Do you know what cholesterol does in

the body? Gall bladder depends upon fat to work properly too.

Gracia

Hi Puneet,

Oh Yes,,,,,, I have been to the ER two times now... severe pain on both

side of my torso.. I can't hardly move when this happens.. they have

confirmed the gallstones. I'm trying the no cholesterol diet now and so

far not too bad.. Since these last attacks I have been so afraid just to

eat anything at first but not I no I can't eat cholesterol foods it

makes it so much worse..

Bev

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@ <mailto:kumarpuneet2004%40>

> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the

same?Cause many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if

precautions are taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very

keen to remove the Gall bladder without bothering about the consequences

of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@ <mailto:bdowns45681%40> > wrote: Hi

all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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Hi - that's good that its your intention but your comment was

(quote)

" Yes and there are many good healthy sources of fat for the gall bladder

to depend upon. Meat and dairy are not 2 of them. "

Its just not true. My gall bladder is very healthy and I eat both meat

and dairy.

and I'm right with you on animal rights - I keep my own chickens for

eggs ( I don't eat the hens) and they are the happiest hens in the world

with several acres to free range on and organic grain to eat.

Kerry

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cholesterol carries hormones to where they need to get..

Bev

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

I treated my gall bladder attacks with Armour. Attacks stopped immediately and

never came back. Do you know what cholesterol does in the body? Gall bladder

depends upon fat to work properly too.

Gracia

Hi Puneet,

Oh Yes,,,,,, I have been to the ER two times now... severe pain on both side of

my torso.. I can't hardly move when this happens.. they have confirmed the

gallstones. I'm trying the no cholesterol diet now and so far not too bad..

Since these last attacks I have been so afraid just to eat anything at first but

not I no I can't eat cholesterol foods it makes it so much worse..

Bev

Puneet kumar <kumarpuneet2004@...> wrote:

Hi Bev,

Snice u mention Gall stones..do you have any symptoms related to the same?Cause

many Gall stones are silent and dont cause any trouble(if precautions are

taken).You need to be careful as these surgeons are very keen to remove the Gall

bladder without bothering about the consequences of the procedure

Puneet

Bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: Hi all,

I've heard and read about not to eat soy products when you have thyroid

disease..

Does anybody know for sure if soy just interferes with thyroid function

or & if it shows up on your blood tests?

I have just found out I can't eat any cholesterol foods ( meat or

dairy) or fried foods ( very low fat). I have gallstones and have to

see a surgeon on Wed. I already take cholesterol meds. so I already

make too much cholesterol so I can't add any to it..Blah,.....any ideas

on the foods I can replace the meat and dairy with,,, I can't stand

tofu......

thanks

Bev

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I stand to my qoute. The topic I was talking about was " while under a

gallbladder attack " . Meat and dairy should not be consumed while under a

gallbladder attack. I do not disagree with Gracia that the gallbladder needs

fats, but while under attack......not those types of fats.

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote: Hi - that's

good that its your intention but your comment was

(quote)

" Yes and there are many good healthy sources of fat for the gall bladder

to depend upon. Meat and dairy are not 2 of them. "

Its just not true. My gall bladder is very healthy and I eat both meat

and dairy.

and I'm right with you on animal rights - I keep my own chickens for

eggs ( I don't eat the hens) and they are the happiest hens in the world

with several acres to free range on and organic grain to eat.

Kerry

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who wrote the below?

Sounds great... how did you make your protein shake? And please give me the

recipe for the stuffed peppers. I usually make them with hamb.. but can't

now....

Bev

ooohhh! Alfalfa sprouts, not thanx! Too bad you can't come over for dinner

tonight. I am making stuffed peppers, yummmy! Brown rice, chix peas, tempeh, and

lots of veggies all stuffed in a monster pepper. Breakfast was great too! Nice

big protein shake with bananas right before my yoga. OOHH, and lunch, let's see!

I had a huge salad with everything from avocados to a nice big veggie burger on

top! Alfalfa sprouts??? No thank you! I'll let Null know how you feel, he's

coming for his massage on tuesday! :0) Be healthy! Oh, and Eskimos? Once

again...we were talking about GALLBLADDER ATTACKS! And organic meat! Have a nice

day!

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Oh please!!!

If you read your Scriptures, Jesus ate fish and celebrated

Passover..you know...with lamb....He was raised in a typical Kosher

Jewish household....and even said it's fine to eat meat...just

make it Kosher...not the meat sacrificed to idols...certainly because

of the spiritual implications but also because the Gentiles hygene

and butchering practices were horrible and 'unclean'..........

>

> Plenty of vegan men including Jesus Christ!!

>

> http://home.netcom.com/~axleplus/stuff/veggie/celebs.html

> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/veggie/celebrities.htm

> http://www.vegkids.com/celebs.asp

> http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art19387.asp

>

> Puneet

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I wrote it, ! The stuffed peppers were great. I gutted the pepper. In

a big pan I used a little oil and sauteed cut up tempeh on med. covered for

about 30 minutes, then I added chopped garlic and chick peas. In another pan I

made rice pilaf. It said to cook rice for 25 minutes so at 15 minutes and toook

it out and pured it in with the tempeh and chickpeas. Then I mixed it around

and started filling the peppers. I put the stuffed peppers in the oven on 375

for about 25-30 minutes, maybe less. I just kept checking. Soooo good. And

for my husband....organic chicken cutlets and corn on the cobb.

bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote: who wrote the below?

Sounds great... how did you make your protein shake? And please give me the

recipe for the stuffed peppers. I usually make them with hamb.. but can't

now....

Bev

ooohhh! Alfalfa sprouts, not thanx! Too bad you can't come over for dinner

tonight. I am making stuffed peppers, yummmy! Brown rice, chix peas, tempeh, and

lots of veggies all stuffed in a monster pepper. Breakfast was great too! Nice

big protein shake with bananas right before my yoga. OOHH, and lunch, let's see!

I had a huge salad with everything from avocados to a nice big veggie burger on

top! Alfalfa sprouts??? No thank you! I'll let Null know how you feel, he's

coming for his massage on tuesday! :0) Be healthy! Oh, and Eskimos? Once

again...we were talking about GALLBLADDER ATTACKS! And organic meat! Have a nice

day!

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http://home.netcom.com/~axleplus/stuff/veggie/celebs.html

Who knows..but he sure preached non-violence

Puneet

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

oh puhleeeze

how do we know JC was vegan????

I have gone to some macrobiotic parties and the food was so awful.

Gracia

Plenty of vegan men including Jesus Christ!!

http://home.netcom.com/~axleplus/stuff/veggie/celebs.html

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/veggie/celebrities.htm

http://www.vegkids.com/celebs.asp

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art19387.asp

Puneet

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote: I know 4 vegan men (only one

personaly)

1. Alec Baldwin

2. Ben

3. Casey Affleck

First 3 are celebrities, google them

4. Brad Bench (A vegan chef/personal trainer) He is very built, no steroids!

bev <bdowns45681@...> wrote:

HI,

I don't know of any men that are vegi men to see if they have fem traits..

Are there any celebs. you can suggest for me to look at...

thanks

Bev

l_realestate <l_realestate@...> wrote:

Your replying using statisics that were taken after thr Eskimos

started eating sugar, white bread, flour, bad fats, processed food

and Coca-Cola...not attacking ..been there, did the Macro-

vegi thing....but I learned to look at the end result...look at Vegi

men...so full of Estrogen that they have Fem traits...look at the end

result of anything and that will give you the answer.

> I wonder what thinks of the northern native

Americans

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agreed on that.

Gracia

I didn't know Jesus Christ personaly so I have no idea what the man ate.

However, if he is as kind and compassionate as the man we read about then I

would def. believe he would not stand for the way our animals are treated today,

that's for sure. :0)

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Probably....but I wasn't there so I don't know either. :0)

l_realestate <l_realestate@...> wrote:

Oh please!!!

If you read your Scriptures, Jesus ate fish and celebrated

Passover..you know...with lamb....He was raised in a typical Kosher

Jewish household....and even said it's fine to eat meat...just

make it Kosher...not the meat sacrificed to idols...certainly because

of the spiritual implications but also because the Gentiles hygene

and butchering practices were horrible and 'unclean'..........

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> Plenty of vegan men including Jesus Christ!!

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> http://home.netcom.com/~axleplus/stuff/veggie/celebs.html

> http://www.animalaid.org.uk/veggie/celebrities.htm

> http://www.vegkids.com/celebs.asp

> http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art19387.asp

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> Puneet

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