levothyroxine

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > Not according to the STTM website.

> >

>

> According to them, breathing is a symptom of hypoT.

>

> Chuck

>

That's pretty insulting. I've regained my life thanks to that website

and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

B.

[Guest guest]

You're being sarcastic, right?

?

In a message dated 9/7/07 11:05:30 AM, hary722001@... writes:

>

> When I was first diagnosed I had two things that were so abnormal

> compared to everyone else -

> 1. Always ridiculously cold, and

> 2. Never hungry. Everyone else would be starving at some point and

> I could go all day and not feel a hunger pain.

>

>

> >

> > I remember being that bone cold ....in the past! But since I

> began Armour,

> > Iodine, and HC....I am fine.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I have brain fog also. I know it has something to do with the T3 and its

short lived. Since I take my T3 in the early AM, maybe that is why I'm

spacier in the afternoon.

Gracia and Sam - how did you two treat your brain fog?

[Guest guest]

No, these are classic symptoms.

> > >

> > > I remember being that bone cold ....in the past! But since I

> > began Armour,

> > > Iodine, and HC....I am fine.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am all too aware that being cold and having no metabolism are classic

symptoms of hypoT. Despite my memory issues, I will always remember those cold

Michigan winters ;-) When I first read your post I thought you were saying that

they were abnormal compared to " everyone else " meaning us hypoT folk, lol.

Comparing those two symptoms to the " normal people " without hypoT, you are very

correct. My mistake in reading :-)

In a message dated 9/10/07 10:10:37 AM, hary722001@... writes:

>

> No, these are classic symptoms.

>

> > > >

> > > > I remember being that bone cold ....in the past! But since I

> > > began Armour,

> > > > Iodine, and HC....I am fine.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I take enough Armour (240mg) and iodine/iodide (50mg). Also estrogen helped

with this!

Gracia

I have brain fog also. I know it has something to do with the T3 and its

short lived. Since I take my T3 in the early AM, maybe that is why I'm

spacier in the afternoon.

Gracia and Sam - how did you two treat your brain fog?

[Guest guest]

c_reinhardt2001 I treated my brain fog this way:

Armour thyroid, dosed by symptoms.

1/2 dose under the tongue is early monring and other half under the tongue

in the early afternoon.

Adrenal support.

Iodoral and vitamin C.

Dosing up Armour whenever hypO symptoms returned was THE number one bestest

all arounf way to take Armour for me. Just totally worked like a charm.

Brain fog is allllllllllllll gone TOTALLY.

Sam

(thyroidless, iodized, and Armour -ized)

=====

I have brain fog also. I know it has something to do with the T3 and its

short lived. Since I take my T3 in the early AM, maybe that is why I'm

spacier in the afternoon.

Gracia and Sam - how did you two treat your brain fog?

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>

> That's pretty insulting....

But accurate.

>... I've regained my life thanks to that website

> and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

Good for you, but just because someone that actually has hypoT gets

treatment doesn't mean that the site isn't designed to make a lot of

people who really don't have the condition think that they do.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

,

I agree. I saw this and thought it was insulting also. If it wasn't for STTM I

wouldn't be as well as I am today.

C.

< Crystal,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> >

> > Not according to the STTM website.

> >

>

> According to them, breathing is a symptom of hypoT.

>

> Chuck

>

That's pretty insulting. I've regained my life thanks to that website

and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

B. >

[Guest guest]

hey guys, i was just curious about what you said about " breathing is a symptom

of hypoT " what " exactly " did you mean by that? thanks!

<cccquilter@...> wrote: ,

I agree. I saw this and thought it was insulting also. If it wasn't for STTM I

wouldn't be as well as I am today.

C.

< Crystal,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> >

> > Not according to the STTM website.

> >

>

> According to them, breathing is a symptom of hypoT.

>

> Chuck

>

That's pretty insulting. I've regained my life thanks to that website

and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

B. >

[Guest guest]

Hi , It was a smart @$$ comment about the Stop the Thyroid Madness

site. I'm not sure... but the person who made it seems to be a doctor or

scientist or?? :-)

-- Re: Re: levothyroxine

hey guys, i was just curious about what you said about " breathing is a

symptom of hypoT " what " exactly " did you mean by that? thanks!

<cccquilter@...> wrote: ,

I agree. I saw this and thought it was insulting also. If it wasn't for STTM

I wouldn't be as well as I am today.

C.

< Crystal,

>

> You wrote:

> >

> >

> > Not according to the STTM website.

> >

>

> According to them, breathing is a symptom of hypoT.

>

> Chuck

>

That's pretty insulting. I've regained my life thanks to that website

and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

B. >

[Guest guest]

whaaaaaaat?

oh c'mon Chuck. I know one zillion ppl who are untreated for hypo probs. I

know of no one who is treated and doesn't need meds.

STTM represents the future of evidence based medicine---what really works.

We almost have a paralell medical system on the internet.

Gracia

,

You wrote:

>

> That's pretty insulting....

But accurate.

>... I've regained my life thanks to that website

> and thanks to some people that are now posting here.

Good for you, but just because someone that actually has hypoT gets

treatment doesn't mean that the site isn't designed to make a lot of

people who really don't have the condition think that they do.

Chuck

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[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

>

> hey guys, i was just curious about what you said about " breathing is a

> symptom of hypoT " what " exactly " did you mean by that? thanks!

>

Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their

discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you

might be a redneck, er... are hypoT:

* Less stamina than others

* Less energy than others

* Long recovery period after any activity

* Inability to hold children for very long

* Arms feeling like dead weights after activity

* Chronic Low Grade Depression

* Suicidal Thoughts

* Often feeling cold

* Cold hands and feet

* High cholesterol

* Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise

* Hard stools

* Constipation

* No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows

* Dry Hair

* Hair Loss

* Dry cracking skin

* Nodding off easily

* Requires naps in the afternoon

* Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time

* Forgetfulness

* Foggy thinking

* Inability to lose weight

* Always gaining weight

* Inability to function in a relationship with anyone

* NO sex drive

* Moody periods

* PMS

* Excruciating pain during period

* Nausea

* Swelling/edema/puffiness

* Aching bones/muscles

* Osteoporosis

* Bumps on legs

* Acne on face and in hair

* Breakout on chest and arms

* Hives

* Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

* Inability to work full-time

* Inability to stand on feet for long periods

* Complete lack of motivation

* Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade

* Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

* Handwriting nearly illegible

* Internal itching of ears

* Broken/peeling fingernails

* Dry skin or snake skin

* Major anxiety/worry

* Ringing in ears

* Lactose Intolerance

* Inability to eat in the mornings

* No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows

* Joint pain

* Carpal tunnel symptoms

* No Appetite

* Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure

* Swollen legs that prevented walking

* Blood Pressure problems

* Varicose Veins

* Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear

* Low body temperature

* Raised temperature

* Tightness in throat; sore throat

* Swollen lymph glands

* sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet

* now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ...

Anyone over 50 under a little stress has a majority of these. Everyone I

know has at least SOME.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Sam-

I ordered iso-cort on-line and will try to get better about the vitamin C. I

try to do the armour based on symptoms but I feel like something is wrong with

me because I have to keep taking more? Well, we'll see how things go. Thanks

for the post!

In a message dated 9/13/07 8:16:11 PM, k9gang@... writes:

> c_reinhardt2001  I treated my brain fog this way:

> Armour thyroid, dosed by symptoms.

> 1/2 dose under the tongue is early monring and other half under the tongue

> in the early afternoon.

>

> Adrenal support.

>

> Iodoral and vitamin C.

>

> Dosing up Armour whenever hypO symptoms returned was THE number one bestest

> all arounf way to take Armour for me. Just totally worked like a charm.

>

> Brain fog is allllllllllllll gone TOTALLY.

>

> Sam

> (thyroidless, iodized, and Armour -ized)

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm just curious....but since everyone you know has at least some of these

symptoms....do you think their thyroids could be malfunctioning somewhat??

The government tells us to keep Iodide/iodine? Handy in case of nuclear

accident/intent....so the thyroid and all organs must have some need for

this.

-- Re: Re: levothyroxine

,

You wrote:

>

> hey guys, i was just curious about what you said about " breathing is a

> symptom of hypoT " what " exactly " did you mean by that? thanks!

>

Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their

discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you

might be a redneck, er... are hypoT:

* Less stamina than others

* Less energy than others

* Long recovery period after any activity

* Inability to hold children for very long

* Arms feeling like dead weights after activity

* Chronic Low Grade Depression

* Suicidal Thoughts

* Often feeling cold

* Cold hands and feet

* High cholesterol

* Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise

* Hard stools

* Constipation

* No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows

* Dry Hair

* Hair Loss

* Dry cracking skin

* Nodding off easily

* Requires naps in the afternoon

* Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time

* Forgetfulness

* Foggy thinking

* Inability to lose weight

* Always gaining weight

* Inability to function in a relationship with anyone

* NO sex drive

* Moody periods

* PMS

* Excruciating pain during period

* Nausea

* Swelling/edema/puffiness

* Aching bones/muscles

* Osteoporosis

* Bumps on legs

* Acne on face and in hair

* Breakout on chest and arms

* Hives

* Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

* Inability to work full-time

* Inability to stand on feet for long periods

* Complete lack of motivation

* Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade

* Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

* Handwriting nearly illegible

* Internal itching of ears

* Broken/peeling fingernails

* Dry skin or snake skin

* Major anxiety/worry

* Ringing in ears

* Lactose Intolerance

* Inability to eat in the mornings

* No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows

* Joint pain

* Carpal tunnel symptoms

* No Appetite

* Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure

* Swollen legs that prevented walking

* Blood Pressure problems

* Varicose Veins

* Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear

* Low body temperature

* Raised temperature

* Tightness in throat; sore throat

* Swollen lymph glands

* sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet

* now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ...

Anyone over 50 under a little stress has a majority of these. Everyone I

know has at least SOME.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

,

You wrote:

> I'm just curious....but since everyone you know has at least some of these

> symptoms....do you think their thyroids could be malfunctioning somewhat??

>

Absolutely not. They have a range of conditions from aging to sleep

disturbances and diabetes. Are you kidding? Do you really think that

everyone that gets tired easily with acne and cold hands, is hypoT? Just

drinking too much coffee will cause some of the conditions listed.

Nausea? Give me a break.

Here is a more realistic list of symptoms Shomon uses, taken from

the Merck Manual:

____ I am gaining weight inappropriately

____ I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise

____ I am constipated, sometimes severely

____ I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others

feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.)

____ I feel fatigued, exhausted

____ Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic

____ My hair is coarse and dry, breaking, brittle, falling out

____ My skin is coarse, dry, scaly, and thick

____ I have a hoarse or gravely voice

____ I have puffiness and swelling around the eyes and face

____ I have pains, aches in joints, hands and feet

____ I have developed carpal-tunnel syndrome, or it's getting worse

____ I am having irregular menstrual cycles (longer, or heavier, or more

frequent)

____ I am having trouble conceiving a baby

____ I feel depressed

____ I feel restless

____ My moods change easily

____ I have feelings of worthlessness

____ I have difficulty concentrating

____ I have more feelings of sadness

____ I seem to be losing interest in normal daily activities

____ I'm more forgetful lately

Notice that it is much much shorter than the " signposts of the human

condition " list given on STTM. If you combine a few of these with a

medical history or family history, that would make getting a blood test

reasonable.

-Chuck

> Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their

> discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you

> might be a redneck, er... are hypoT:

>

> * Less stamina than others

> * Less energy than others

> * Long recovery period after any activity

> * Inability to hold children for very long

> * Arms feeling like dead weights after activity

> * Chronic Low Grade Depression

> * Suicidal Thoughts

> * Often feeling cold

> * Cold hands and feet

> * High cholesterol

> * Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise

> * Hard stools

> * Constipation

> * No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows

> * Dry Hair

> * Hair Loss

> * Dry cracking skin

> * Nodding off easily

> * Requires naps in the afternoon

> * Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time

> * Forgetfulness

> * Foggy thinking

> * Inability to lose weight

> * Always gaining weight

> * Inability to function in a relationship with anyone

> * NO sex drive

> * Moody periods

> * PMS

> * Excruciating pain during period

> * Nausea

> * Swelling/edema/puffiness

> * Aching bones/muscles

> * Osteoporosis

> * Bumps on legs

> * Acne on face and in hair

> * Breakout on chest and arms

> * Hives

> * Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

> * Inability to work full-time

> * Inability to stand on feet for long periods

> * Complete lack of motivation

> * Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade

> * Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

> * Handwriting nearly illegible

> * Internal itching of ears

> * Broken/peeling fingernails

> * Dry skin or snake skin

> * Major anxiety/worry

> * Ringing in ears

> * Lactose Intolerance

> * Inability to eat in the mornings

> * No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows

> * Joint pain

> * Carpal tunnel symptoms

> * No Appetite

> * Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure

> * Swollen legs that prevented walking

> * Blood Pressure problems

> * Varicose Veins

> * Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear

> * Low body temperature

> * Raised temperature

> * Tightness in throat; sore throat

> * Swollen lymph glands

> * sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet

> * now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ...

>

[Guest guest]

Broda MD says health begins and ends with the endocrine system.

Most hypo/hypers spend years struggling at a subnormal level b4 they might

get a blood test for TSH, which unfortuantely will exclude 2/3 of the ppl

who need treatment. (like me who always had a " normal " TSH). Oprah is

an example of someone who struggled with hypo issues for years.

Fortunately now we have the internet, more holistic and naturopathic docs

who are trained differently (prevention as opposed to crisis intervention).

We mus thave better quality healthcare in order to have national health care

insurance. Allopathy just ain't it.

Gracia

> ,

>

> You wrote:

>

>> I'm just curious....but since everyone you know has at least some of

>> these

>> symptoms....do you think their thyroids could be malfunctioning

>> somewhat??

>>

>

> Absolutely not. They have a range of conditions from aging to sleep

> disturbances and diabetes. Are you kidding? Do you really think that

> everyone that gets tired easily with acne and cold hands, is hypoT? Just

> drinking too much coffee will cause some of the conditions listed.

> Nausea? Give me a break.

>

> Here is a more realistic list of symptoms Shomon uses, taken from

> the Merck Manual:

>

> ____ I am gaining weight inappropriately

> ____ I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise

> ____ I am constipated, sometimes severely

> ____ I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others

> feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.)

> ____ I feel fatigued, exhausted

> ____ Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic

> ____ My hair is coarse and dry, breaking, brittle, falling out

> ____ My skin is coarse, dry, scaly, and thick

> ____ I have a hoarse or gravely voice

> ____ I have puffiness and swelling around the eyes and face

> ____ I have pains, aches in joints, hands and feet

> ____ I have developed carpal-tunnel syndrome, or it's getting worse

> ____ I am having irregular menstrual cycles (longer, or heavier, or more

> frequent)

> ____ I am having trouble conceiving a baby

> ____ I feel depressed

> ____ I feel restless

> ____ My moods change easily

> ____ I have feelings of worthlessness

> ____ I have difficulty concentrating

> ____ I have more feelings of sadness

> ____ I seem to be losing interest in normal daily activities

> ____ I'm more forgetful lately

>

> Notice that it is much much shorter than the " signposts of the human

> condition " list given on STTM. If you combine a few of these with a

> medical history or family history, that would make getting a blood test

> reasonable.

>

> -Chuck

>

>>

[Guest guest]

, that's the idea of dosing by symptoms...hypO symptoms.

Imagine MY surprise when I needed MORE than 6 grains. Imagine my surprise

when I needed MORE than 8 grains. Imgine my surprise when I needed MORE than

10 grains...but that's apparently what my body needs. I'm on 11+ grains and

totally symptom free. Altho " other people " get freaked out when I tell them

how much I'm not, I remind them that's it's MY body, and that's what my body

needs.

Listen to YOUR body.

Sam

=====

Sam-

I ordered iso-cort on-line and will try to get better about the vitamin C. I

try to do the armour based on symptoms but I feel like something is wrong

with

me because I have to keep taking more? Well, we'll see how things go. Thanks

for the post!

In a message dated 9/13/07 8:16:11 PM, k9gang@... writes:

> c_reinhardt2001 I treated my brain fog this way:

> Armour thyroid, dosed by symptoms.

> 1/2 dose under the tongue is early monring and other half under the tongue

> in the early afternoon.

>

> Adrenal support.

>

> Iodoral and vitamin C.

>

> Dosing up Armour whenever hypO symptoms returned was THE number one

bestest

> all arounf way to take Armour for me. Just totally worked like a charm.

>

> Brain fog is allllllllllllll gone TOTALLY.

>

> Sam

> (thyroidless, iodized, and Armour -ized)

>

[Guest guest]

LOL

-- Re: Re: levothyroxine

,

You wrote:

>

> hey guys, i was just curious about what you said about " breathing is a

> symptom of hypoT " what " exactly " did you mean by that? thanks!

>

Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their

discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you

might be a redneck, er... are hypoT:

* Less stamina than others

* Less energy than others

* Long recovery period after any activity

* Inability to hold children for very long

* Arms feeling like dead weights after activity

* Chronic Low Grade Depression

* Suicidal Thoughts

* Often feeling cold

* Cold hands and feet

* High cholesterol

* Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise

* Hard stools

* Constipation

* No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows

* Dry Hair

* Hair Loss

* Dry cracking skin

* Nodding off easily

* Requires naps in the afternoon

* Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time

* Forgetfulness

* Foggy thinking

* Inability to lose weight

* Always gaining weight

* Inability to function in a relationship with anyone

* NO sex drive

* Moody periods

* PMS

* Excruciating pain during period

* Nausea

* Swelling/edema/puffiness

* Aching bones/muscles

* Osteoporosis

* Bumps on legs

* Acne on face and in hair

* Breakout on chest and arms

* Hives

* Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

* Inability to work full-time

* Inability to stand on feet for long periods

* Complete lack of motivation

* Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade

* Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

* Handwriting nearly illegible

* Internal itching of ears

* Broken/peeling fingernails

* Dry skin or snake skin

* Major anxiety/worry

* Ringing in ears

* Lactose Intolerance

* Inability to eat in the mornings

* No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows

* Joint pain

* Carpal tunnel symptoms

* No Appetite

* Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure

* Swollen legs that prevented walking

* Blood Pressure problems

* Varicose Veins

* Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear

* Low body temperature

* Raised temperature

* Tightness in throat; sore throat

* Swollen lymph glands

* sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet

* now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ...

Anyone over 50 under a little stress has a majority of these. Everyone I

know has at least SOME.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you didn't

list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie horses in

the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about

headaches, that's not there. Also, I have never had that chill to the bone

feeling, but I have always been hot " natured. " There can be other things

associated with hypo that didn't list.

-- Re: Re: levothyroxine

,

You wrote:

> I'm just curious....but since everyone you know has at least some of these

> symptoms....do you think their thyroids could be malfunctioning somewhat??

>

Absolutely not. They have a range of conditions from aging to sleep

disturbances and diabetes. Are you kidding? Do you really think that

everyone that gets tired easily with acne and cold hands, is hypoT? Just

drinking too much coffee will cause some of the conditions listed.

Nausea? Give me a break.

Here is a more realistic list of symptoms Shomon uses, taken from

the Merck Manual:

____ I am gaining weight inappropriately

____ I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise

____ I am constipated, sometimes severely

____ I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others

feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.)

____ I feel fatigued, exhausted

____ Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic

____ My hair is coarse and dry, breaking, brittle, falling out

____ My skin is coarse, dry, scaly, and thick

____ I have a hoarse or gravely voice

____ I have puffiness and swelling around the eyes and face

____ I have pains, aches in joints, hands and feet

____ I have developed carpal-tunnel syndrome, or it's getting worse

____ I am having irregular menstrual cycles (longer, or heavier, or more

frequent)

____ I am having trouble conceiving a baby

____ I feel depressed

____ I feel restless

____ My moods change easily

____ I have feelings of worthlessness

____ I have difficulty concentrating

____ I have more feelings of sadness

____ I seem to be losing interest in normal daily activities

____ I'm more forgetful lately

Notice that it is much much shorter than the " signposts of the human

condition " list given on STTM. If you combine a few of these with a

medical history or family history, that would make getting a blood test

reasonable.

-Chuck

> Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their

> discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you

> might be a redneck, er... are hypoT:

>

> * Less stamina than others

> * Less energy than others

> * Long recovery period after any activity

> * Inability to hold children for very long

> * Arms feeling like dead weights after activity

> * Chronic Low Grade Depression

> * Suicidal Thoughts

> * Often feeling cold

> * Cold hands and feet

> * High cholesterol

> * Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise

> * Hard stools

> * Constipation

> * No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows

> * Dry Hair

> * Hair Loss

> * Dry cracking skin

> * Nodding off easily

> * Requires naps in the afternoon

> * Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time

> * Forgetfulness

> * Foggy thinking

> * Inability to lose weight

> * Always gaining weight

> * Inability to function in a relationship with anyone

> * NO sex drive

> * Moody periods

> * PMS

> * Excruciating pain during period

> * Nausea

> * Swelling/edema/puffiness

> * Aching bones/muscles

> * Osteoporosis

> * Bumps on legs

> * Acne on face and in hair

> * Breakout on chest and arms

> * Hives

> * Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional

> * Inability to work full-time

> * Inability to stand on feet for long periods

> * Complete lack of motivation

> * Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade

> * Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others

> * Handwriting nearly illegible

> * Internal itching of ears

> * Broken/peeling fingernails

> * Dry skin or snake skin

> * Major anxiety/worry

> * Ringing in ears

> * Lactose Intolerance

> * Inability to eat in the mornings

> * No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows

> * Joint pain

> * Carpal tunnel symptoms

> * No Appetite

> * Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure

> * Swollen legs that prevented walking

> * Blood Pressure problems

> * Varicose Veins

> * Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear

> * Low body temperature

> * Raised temperature

> * Tightness in throat; sore throat

> * Swollen lymph glands

> * sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet

> * now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ...

>

[Guest guest]

Then you had better pray that we never have government health care,

because if we do it will almost certainly be virtually 100% allopathic

medicine.

>

> Re: levothyroxine

>

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> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

> <mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20levothyroxine>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:45 am (PST)

>

>

> Broda MD says health begins and ends with the endocrine system.

> Most hypo/hypers spend years struggling at a subnormal level b4 they

> might

> get a blood test for TSH, which unfortuantely will exclude 2/3 of the ppl

> who need treatment. (like me who always had a " normal " TSH). Oprah is

> an example of someone who struggled with hypo issues for years.

> Fortunately now we have the internet, more holistic and naturopathic docs

> who are trained differently (prevention as opposed to crisis

> intervention)

> .

> We mus thave better quality healthcare in order to have national

> health care

> insurance. Allopathy just ain't it.

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you didn't

> list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie horses in

> the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about

> headaches, that's not there....

Sure, but lots of non-hypoT people have charlie horses and headaches. To

be definitive, a " symptom " must not only happen to hypoT people, it must

be relatively uncommon otherwise. Do you get sleepy at the end of the

day? Do you get hungry right before meals? HypoT people do, but we don't

list those as symptoms.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

a lot of non hypo people also get really cold, have muscle aches, get

dry skin, and lose hair, but that doesn't make them hypo, so are those

uncommon things for non-hypos?

> >

> > Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you

didn't

> > list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie

horses in

> > the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about

> > headaches, that's not there....

>

> Sure, but lots of non-hypoT people have charlie horses and

headaches. To

> be definitive, a " symptom " must not only happen to hypoT people, it

must

> be relatively uncommon otherwise. Do you get sleepy at the end of the

> day? Do you get hungry right before meals? HypoT people do, but we

don't

> list those as symptoms.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

Funny, being a red-neck girl from Oregon, I could check off many of those

symptoms from STTM.

Now I am (stealing a Samism) .....Armourized, Iodized and HC'd....

Especially no more leg cramps and I thank Sam, Gracia and a few others for

speaking out about their experiences.

-- Re: Re: levothyroxine

Crystal,

You wrote:

>

> Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you didn't

> list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie horses in

> the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about

> headaches, that's not there....

Sure, but lots of non-hypoT people have charlie horses and headaches. To

be definitive, a " symptom " must not only happen to hypoT people, it must

be relatively uncommon otherwise. Do you get sleepy at the end of the

day? Do you get hungry right before meals? HypoT people do, but we don't

list those as symptoms.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

sweetenloe1 wrote:

>

>

> a lot of non hypo people also get really cold, have muscle aches, get

> dry skin, and lose hair, but that doesn't make them hypo, so are those

> uncommon things for non-hypos?

Not true. Those are all much less common than nausea or headaches,

especially if you rule out common causes, such as the flu, and together

become indicators.

Chuck