Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 it doesn't work, it's too expensive, it's disease maintenance. PPL don't want it. Gracia Then you had better pray that we never have government health care, because if we do it will almost certainly be virtually 100% allopathic medicine. > > Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. FruitaBü Group A Parent´s Place to share ideas on family cooking. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 National Health Insurance is NOT the answer! It would be more of the same as we have now, with T4 only meds being mandated. I believe it would be even harder to get Armour, never mind T3 only therapy, and TSH would be supreme ruler. You would never see a diagnosis of Adrenal Insufficieny unless you had something extreme. Cost cutting would be the norm. Generic medications would be prescribed more in order to cut costs. Sorry, but I don't think National Health Insurance is a good idea. C. http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ http://www.youngliving.com - essential oils for healthy living http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com cccquilter53@... Embroidery from the Heart http://Embfromtheheart.etsy.com When we cannot do anything, when we are not able to move, and when we have no strength, that is the time to trust in and enjoy the supply of God as grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 my mother has national health insurance---medicare/medicaid. Honest to God they (taxpayers) are spending millions on her. She is in a vegetative state now b/c Armour was lowered to 30mg!!!! and she stopped taking iodine. She is being given percoset for pain. Actually I think they give her cortef but it is not dosed correctly. She has also been Dxed bipolar but that is the Dx du Jour. I guess tomorrow I will try to do battle with docs again. The problem is really the docs--they are incompetent. And big pharma. Gracia National Health Insurance is NOT the answer! It would be more of the same as we have now, with T4 only meds being mandated. I believe it would be even harder to get Armour, never mind T3 only therapy, and TSH would be supreme ruler. You would never see a diagnosis of Adrenal Insufficieny unless you had something extreme. Cost cutting would be the norm. Generic medications would be prescribed more in order to cut costs. Sorry, but I don't think National Health Insurance is a good idea. C. http://catherineshypohelljourney.blogspot.com/ http://www.youngliving.com - essential oils for healthy living http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com cccquilter53@... Embroidery from the Heart http://Embfromtheheart.etsy.com When we cannot do anything, when we are not able to move, and when we have no strength, that is the time to trust in and enjoy the supply of God as grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 I was diagnosed because I kept breaking out in hives. Whenever my free's get too low I still do. That's not on your list either. Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you didn't list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie horses in the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about headaches, that's not there. Also, I have never had that chill to the bone feeling, but I have always been hot " natured. " There can be other things associated with hypo that didn't list. -- Re: Re: levothyroxine , You wrote: > I'm just curious....but since everyone you know has at least some of these > symptoms....do you think their thyroids could be malfunctioning somewhat?? > Absolutely not. They have a range of conditions from aging to sleep disturbances and diabetes. Are you kidding? Do you really think that everyone that gets tired easily with acne and cold hands, is hypoT? Just drinking too much coffee will cause some of the conditions listed. Nausea? Give me a break. Here is a more realistic list of symptoms Shomon uses, taken from the Merck Manual: ____ I am gaining weight inappropriately ____ I'm unable to lose weight with diet/exercise ____ I am constipated, sometimes severely ____ I have hypothermia/low body temperature (I feel cold when others feel hot, I need extra sweaters, etc.) ____ I feel fatigued, exhausted ____ Feeling run down, sluggish, lethargic ____ My hair is coarse and dry, breaking, brittle, falling out ____ My skin is coarse, dry, scaly, and thick ____ I have a hoarse or gravely voice ____ I have puffiness and swelling around the eyes and face ____ I have pains, aches in joints, hands and feet ____ I have developed carpal-tunnel syndrome, or it's getting worse ____ I am having irregular menstrual cycles (longer, or heavier, or more frequent) ____ I am having trouble conceiving a baby ____ I feel depressed ____ I feel restless ____ My moods change easily ____ I have feelings of worthlessness ____ I have difficulty concentrating ____ I have more feelings of sadness ____ I seem to be losing interest in normal daily activities ____ I'm more forgetful lately Notice that it is much much shorter than the " signposts of the human condition " list given on STTM. If you combine a few of these with a medical history or family history, that would make getting a blood test reasonable. -Chuck > Here is the list of definitive symptoms from the web site. Their > discussion suggests that if you just have SOME of these symptoms, you > might be a redneck, er... are hypoT: > > * Less stamina than others > * Less energy than others > * Long recovery period after any activity > * Inability to hold children for very long > * Arms feeling like dead weights after activity > * Chronic Low Grade Depression > * Suicidal Thoughts > * Often feeling cold > * Cold hands and feet > * High cholesterol > * Bizarre and Debilitating reaction to exercise > * Hard stools > * Constipation > * No eyebrows or thinning outer eyebrows > * Dry Hair > * Hair Loss > * Dry cracking skin > * Nodding off easily > * Requires naps in the afternoon > * Inability to concentrate or read long periods of time > * Forgetfulness > * Foggy thinking > * Inability to lose weight > * Always gaining weight > * Inability to function in a relationship with anyone > * NO sex drive > * Moody periods > * PMS > * Excruciating pain during period > * Nausea > * Swelling/edema/puffiness > * Aching bones/muscles > * Osteoporosis > * Bumps on legs > * Acne on face and in hair > * Breakout on chest and arms > * Hives > * Exhaustion in every dimension–physical, mental, spiritual, emotional > * Inability to work full-time > * Inability to stand on feet for long periods > * Complete lack of motivation > * Slowing to a snail’s pace when walking up slight grade > * Extremely crabby, irritable, intolerant of others > * Handwriting nearly illegible > * Internal itching of ears > * Broken/peeling fingernails > * Dry skin or snake skin > * Major anxiety/worry > * Ringing in ears > * Lactose Intolerance > * Inability to eat in the mornings > * No hair growth, breaks faster than it grows > * Joint pain > * Carpal tunnel symptoms > * No Appetite > * Fluid retention to the point of Congestive Heart Failure > * Swollen legs that prevented walking > * Blood Pressure problems > * Varicose Veins > * Dizziness from fluid on the inner ear > * Low body temperature > * Raised temperature > * Tightness in throat; sore throat > * Swollen lymph glands > * sore feet (plantar fascitis); painful soles of feet > * now how do I put this one politely….a cold bum, ... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Gracia- Are you saying socialized medicine won't work? And it especially won't work because it is allopathic and in addition to that the gov will make it too expensive? I guess I'm just confused because I thought you used to be for government health care. (I <3 RON PAUL!!) Re: Re: levothyroxine it doesn't work, it's too expensive, it's disease maintenance. PPL don't want it. Gracia Then you had better pray that we never have government health care, because if we do it will almost certainly be virtually 100% allopathic medicine. > > Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. FruitaBü Group A Parent´s Place to share ideas on family cooking. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. .. ---------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 well no! " socialized " medicine is fine with me. I am in absolutely desperate straits trying to afford what I need. I was referring to allopathic medicine which is dysfunctional. There is no national conversation on the quality of healthcare, like there is on support groups lists. I guess that''s b/c big pharma and insurance companies are so powerful. Gracia- Are you saying socialized medicine won't work? And it especially won't work because it is allopathic and in addition to that the gov will make it too expensive? I guess I'm just confused because I thought you used to be for government health care. (I <3 RON PAUL!!) Re: Re: levothyroxine it doesn't work, it's too expensive, it's disease maintenance. PPL don't want it. Gracia Then you had better pray that we never have government health care, because if we do it will almost certainly be virtually 100% allopathic medicine. > > Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy Official Samsung Group for supporting your HDTVs and devices. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 another symptom is seizures, especially in children. Gracia I was diagnosed because I kept breaking out in hives. Whenever my free's get too low I still do. That's not on your list either. Well isn't it true then, that a person can have more symptoms you didn't list. For instance one of my major symptoms was getting Charlie horses in the back of my thigh when I sat down, that's not listed. How about headaches, that's not there. Also, I have never had that chill to the bone feeling, but I have always been hot " natured. " There can be other things associated with hypo that didn't list. Recent Activity a.. 11New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share FruitaBü Parents on teaching families how to eat healthy. Yoga Groups Find Enlightenment & exchange insights with other members . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hi Rhonda, Is your mother on Bee's plan? From what I've read (very new here) the thyroid regenerates/heals as one follows Bee's plan. You'll want to watch her thyroid so she doesn't go hyper. I am currently on an Armour/levo blend and am rechecking next week. I do feel a few " hyper " symptoms but they are mixed with " hypo. " So I will just continue to really watch it... take my morning temps, check pulse, watch for loose stools, etc. I will hopefully slowly ween off by regular blood tests. I thought I could first take thyro medicine with food (lessens effect), then reducing dose, then going off! (That would be AWESOME!) I read on Bee's site to keep testing it once a month if you are on full program so you can start reducing... Hope that helps and is accurate Genevieve > > Hi Bee and everybody, > > I have a question regarding thyroid. My mother is on levothyroxine and > does not want to be. Is there any kind of supplement that she can be > on instead? I hope this answer isn't in the website also, because I am > not seeing it. Thanks, Rhonda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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