Re: Armour alone

[Guest guest]

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I stated out on Armour alone, but found later on that I needed adrenal

support. And still later I needed other things.

Sam

>

> Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

As far as my thyroid is concerned it's just the Armour, which I just switched to

because

the Thyrolar I was taking became unavailable to me. I take supplements for

other things

but not for thyroid.

Roni

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

HI ,

I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept gaining weight, and when I

increased to 3 1/2 grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2 grains,

my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng out. I also noticed that I had breast

pain 2 weeks before period since starting Armour.

But, all of my research and other people's input, have suggested I need

adrenal meds. I believe this is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started noticing a huge difference in

just 1 week. Some call this placebo, but I think there is something to it. I

was originally on SINThroid, and had a horrible time. I went off it for 3

years. Lost a ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a years time.

Even though my TSH was sky high at the time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could

have been a thyroid storm.

Needed to get back on something, as I felt very strongly that if I didn't,

something bad would happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements, and

although it brought my T4 into normal and brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I

still needed to get it down. I eventually want to have another baby, and am on

Armour. I really like it sooooo much better than synthetics.

Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal support. If you think about

it, when your thyroid stops working, your other parts of the body have to step

up and compensate. You can burn out other parts of the body, so as the thyroid

gets attention, then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I need additional

help too!! I've been working overtime for the thyroid "

Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't really think it is necessarily

bad to supplement on top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it takes

time. We didn't get sick at one time, it happened over time. So it takes time

to rebuild.

So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a journey. You may find you need to

add other things to your regimen.

Sorry for the long letter.

Hugs,

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Please don't apologize for the long letter. Believe

me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have symptoms,

so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've basically

lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid problems

necessarily come with other problems. I want to have a

baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit overwhelmed

with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

coming into play. I don't know if I have time for such

a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

letters are just fine!

Thanks,

--- and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

> HI ,

> I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2

> grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2 weeks

> before period since starting Armour.

>

> But, all of my research and other people's input,

> have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe this

> is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> call this placebo, but I think there is something to

> it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a

> years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at the

> time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a

> thyroid storm.

>

> Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still needed to

> get it down. I eventually want to have another

> baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> much better than synthetics.

>

> Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> support. If you think about it, when your thyroid

> stops working, your other parts of the body have to

> step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets attention,

> then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> need additional help too!! I've been working

> overtime for the thyroid "

>

> Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> really think it is necessarily bad to supplement on

> top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

>

> So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> journey. You may find you need to add other things

> to your regimen.

>

> Sorry for the long letter.

> Hugs,

>

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> without any other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

You sound like you are doing well, , and I hope this continues for you.

I have back on the Armour, and we'll have to see how I do too.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

HI ,

I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept gaining weight, and when I

increased to 3 1/2 grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2 grains,

my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng out. I also noticed that I had breast

pain 2 weeks before period since starting Armour.

But, all of my research and other people's input, have suggested I need adrenal

meds. I believe this is true for me, because I went to the HFS and purchased Raw

Adrenal (mild dose) and I started noticing a huge difference in just 1 week.

Some call this placebo, but I think there is something to it. I was originally

on SINThroid, and had a horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a ton of

weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a years time. Even though my TSH was

sky high at the time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a thyroid

storm.

Needed to get back on something, as I felt very strongly that if I didn't,

something bad would happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements, and

although it brought my T4 into normal and brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I

still needed to get it down. I eventually want to have another baby, and am on

Armour. I really like it sooooo much better than synthetics.

Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal support. If you think about it,

when your thyroid stops working, your other parts of the body have to step up

and compensate. You can burn out other parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

attention, then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I need additional help

too!! I've been working overtime for the thyroid "

Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't really think it is necessarily bad

to supplement on top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it takes time. We

didn't get sick at one time, it happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a journey. You may find you need to

add other things to your regimen.

Sorry for the long letter.

Hugs,

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your reply. I should also say, I still have the breast pain, but am

looking into Evening primrose oil and Vitamin E. As well as Wheatgrass shots,

and more carrot juice!!

Yes, I was a vegan for 7 years, didn't eat the greatest though. I ate soy in

almost everything. Then I found the connection with soy and thyroid, and got

stopped eating it for the most part. It is still in somethings, like my Earth

Balance buttery spread, although I don't eat that very often. I still try to

avoid dairy as much as possible. I did end up eating organic free range eggs,

and that has helped with my health in a lot of ways, as I was so ill by that

time I had to try something. It was so hard to break the vegan thing for me,

but after studying with a Natropath, he has healed a lot of people's ailments by

adding Raw eggs. (YUK!) But, especially because I had a lot of heavy metals,

and the eggs help bind the metals. I also eat Wild Alaskan Salmon sparingly. I

had major B-12 deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency. So, now I am also

supplementing those as well. Both have come back into normal range. That has

been big for me. So, for the most part, I am

still vegetarian with occasional eggs and salmon.

What is your TSH right now? Also, if you want to have a baby, it sounds like

you are doing good things with avoiding soy and getting a lot of nutrition. Did

you say that you didn't have autoimmune? I know that Soy can bring on

Hypothryoid in people.

I know for me, my TSH was below 2 when I was pregnant, and I made sure it stayed

there. It's really critical for proper development, but I am sure you've looked

into all of that.

Yes, I want another baby too. I am 35, and really really really want another

one!! They are the most incredible beakons of love, joy, and happiness.

Hugs,

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Hi ,

Please don't apologize for the long letter. Believe

me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have symptoms,

so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've basically

lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid problems

necessarily come with other problems. I want to have a

baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit overwhelmed

with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

coming into play. I don't know if I have time for such

a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

letters are just fine!

Thanks,

--- and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

> HI ,

> I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2

> grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2 weeks

> before period since starting Armour.

>

> But, all of my research and other people's input,

> have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe this

> is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> call this placebo, but I think there is something to

> it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a

> years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at the

> time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a

> thyroid storm.

>

> Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still needed to

> get it down. I eventually want to have another

> baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> much better than synthetics.

>

> Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> support. If you think about it, when your thyroid

> stops working, your other parts of the body have to

> step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets attention,

> then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> need additional help too!! I've been working

> overtime for the thyroid "

>

> Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> really think it is necessarily bad to supplement on

> top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

>

> So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> journey. You may find you need to add other things

> to your regimen.

>

> Sorry for the long letter.

> Hugs,

>

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> without any other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Roni,

I'm still working on it. I still have the weight issue and sore breasts, but

am trying to address both.

When did you start the armour? How much did you start with?

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

You sound like you are doing well, , and I hope this continues

for you.

I have back on the Armour, and we'll have to see how I do too.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

HI ,

I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept gaining weight, and when I

increased to 3 1/2 grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2 grains,

my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng out. I also noticed that I had breast

pain 2 weeks before period since starting Armour.

But, all of my research and other people's input, have suggested I need adrenal

meds. I believe this is true for me, because I went to the HFS and purchased Raw

Adrenal (mild dose) and I started noticing a huge difference in just 1 week.

Some call this placebo, but I think there is something to it. I was originally

on SINThroid, and had a horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a ton of

weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a years time. Even though my TSH was

sky high at the time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a thyroid

storm.

Needed to get back on something, as I felt very strongly that if I didn't,

something bad would happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements, and

although it brought my T4 into normal and brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I

still needed to get it down. I eventually want to have another baby, and am on

Armour. I really like it sooooo much better than synthetics.

Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal support. If you think about it,

when your thyroid stops working, your other parts of the body have to step up

and compensate. You can burn out other parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

attention, then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I need additional help

too!! I've been working overtime for the thyroid "

Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't really think it is necessarily bad

to supplement on top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it takes time. We

didn't get sick at one time, it happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a journey. You may find you need to

add other things to your regimen.

Sorry for the long letter.

Hugs,

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

! One of my sisters ate tons of soy 3 times a day for ages and

she became very hypOthyroid from it. Soy is one of those things that

can lower body iodine. Perhaps this is what has happened with you.

Sam :-o

>

> Hi ,

>

> Please don't apologize for the long letter. Believe

> me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have symptoms,

> so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've basically

> lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid problems

> necessarily come with other problems. I want to have a

> baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit overwhelmed

> with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> coming into play. I don't know if I have time for such

> a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> letters are just fine!

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure it didn't help. And I thought I was being

healthy... :/

The strange part is that a month after I stopped soy,

my TSH shot up from 7.797 to 9.677. Which brings me to

another question: does the menstral cycle affect TSH?

Does it matter what time of the month the blood test

is taken? Four years ago it had just been around 6.

--- Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

> ! One of my sisters ate tons of soy 3 times a

> day for ages and

> she became very hypOthyroid from it. Soy is one of

> those things that

> can lower body iodine. Perhaps this is what has

> happened with you.

>

> Sam :-o

>

>

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> Believe

> > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> symptoms,

> > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> > radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> basically

> > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> problems

> > necessarily come with other problems. I want to

> have a

> > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> overwhelmed

> > with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> > coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> such

> > a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> > letters are just fine!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I have been taking the thyrolar all along, at 2grains divided, and that

seemed ok

and didn't make the Afib act up. Now, all I did was switch over to the Armour

at 2 grains,

divided, and I do realize that it is going to give me .44 mcg of T4 more for

the day than

the thyrolar did, but that's the formula, so I can't do anything about it

right now.

It was most important to get my medication covered by the new insurance

company, and

if I have to alter something, I can do it later. I wasn't exatly thrilled with

my previous results

anyway.

What I have noticed on this is that I get a funny taste in my mouth about 4

hours or so

after I take it. Does anyone know what that is all about?

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

Thanks Roni,

I'm still working on it. I still have the weight issue and sore breasts, but am

trying to address both.

When did you start the armour? How much did you start with?

Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

You sound like you are doing well, , and I hope this continues for you.

I have back on the Armour, and we'll have to see how I do too.

Roni

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote:

HI ,

I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept gaining weight, and when I

increased to 3 1/2 grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on 2 grains,

my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng out. I also noticed that I had breast

pain 2 weeks before period since starting Armour.

But, all of my research and other people's input, have suggested I need adrenal

meds. I believe this is true for me, because I went to the HFS and purchased Raw

Adrenal (mild dose) and I started noticing a huge difference in just 1 week.

Some call this placebo, but I think there is something to it. I was originally

on SINThroid, and had a horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a ton of

weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about a years time. Even though my TSH was

sky high at the time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a thyroid

storm.

Needed to get back on something, as I felt very strongly that if I didn't,

something bad would happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements, and

although it brought my T4 into normal and brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I

still needed to get it down. I eventually want to have another baby, and am on

Armour. I really like it sooooo much better than synthetics.

Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal support. If you think about it,

when your thyroid stops working, your other parts of the body have to step up

and compensate. You can burn out other parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

attention, then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I need additional help

too!! I've been working overtime for the thyroid "

Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't really think it is necessarily bad

to supplement on top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it takes time. We

didn't get sick at one time, it happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a journey. You may find you need to

add other things to your regimen.

Sorry for the long letter.

Hugs,

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

-

Wow, a vegan for 7 years. That's a lot of discipline!

My TSH is now 9.677. I don't know what kind of

hypotyroidism I have. My doctor just pushed Synthroid

at me without explaining a thing. (I'm new to my area,

and haven't found a good doctor yet.) Is that

something that someone on the list could tell me if I

post my blood test results?

And, as a side note, I have to admit, I grimaced as I

was writing my age and my desire to have a baby. I

realize that risk increases with age, and I expected a

slew of responses telling me that I was too old. So,

it's great for me to hear that you're 35 and wanting

another. It makes it less scary.

--- and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for your reply. I should also say, I still

> have the breast pain, but am looking into Evening

> primrose oil and Vitamin E. As well as Wheatgrass

> shots, and more carrot juice!!

>

> Yes, I was a vegan for 7 years, didn't eat the

> greatest though. I ate soy in almost everything.

> Then I found the connection with soy and thyroid,

> and got stopped eating it for the most part. It is

> still in somethings, like my Earth Balance buttery

> spread, although I don't eat that very often. I

> still try to avoid dairy as much as possible. I did

> end up eating organic free range eggs, and that has

> helped with my health in a lot of ways, as I was so

> ill by that time I had to try something. It was so

> hard to break the vegan thing for me, but after

> studying with a Natropath, he has healed a lot of

> people's ailments by adding Raw eggs. (YUK!) But,

> especially because I had a lot of heavy metals, and

> the eggs help bind the metals. I also eat Wild

> Alaskan Salmon sparingly. I had major B-12

> deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency. So, now I am

> also supplementing those as well. Both have come

> back into normal range. That has been big for me.

> So, for the most part, I am

> still vegetarian with occasional eggs and salmon.

>

> What is your TSH right now? Also, if you want to

> have a baby, it sounds like you are doing good

> things with avoiding soy and getting a lot of

> nutrition. Did you say that you didn't have

> autoimmune? I know that Soy can bring on

> Hypothryoid in people.

>

> I know for me, my TSH was below 2 when I was

> pregnant, and I made sure it stayed there. It's

> really critical for proper development, but I am

> sure you've looked into all of that.

>

> Yes, I want another baby too. I am 35, and really

> really really want another one!! They are the most

> incredible beakons of love, joy, and happiness.

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Please don't apologize for the long letter. Believe

> me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> symptoms,

> so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> basically

> lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> problems

> necessarily come with other problems. I want to have

> a

> baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> overwhelmed

> with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> such

> a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> letters are just fine!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> --- and Irwin

> <familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> > HI ,

> > I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> > gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> > grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on

> 2

> > grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> > out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2 weeks

> > before period since starting Armour.

> >

> > But, all of my research and other people's input,

> > have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe this

> > is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> > purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> > noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> > call this placebo, but I think there is something

> to

> > it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> > horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> > ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about

> a

> > years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at the

> > time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a

> > thyroid storm.

> >

> > Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> > strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> > happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> > and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> > brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still needed

> to

> > get it down. I eventually want to have another

> > baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> > much better than synthetics.

> >

> > Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> > support. If you think about it, when your thyroid

> > stops working, your other parts of the body have

> to

> > step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> > parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

> attention,

> > then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> > need additional help too!! I've been working

> > overtime for the thyroid "

> >

> > Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> > really think it is necessarily bad to supplement

> on

> > top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> > takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> > happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

> >

> > So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> > journey. You may find you need to add other things

> > to your regimen.

> >

> > Sorry for the long letter.

> > Hugs,

> >

> >

> > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> > without any other

> > hormone replacements or supplements?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am. I'm suppose to be taking a multi, but can't get the enormous things

down.

-- Re: Armour alone

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

All of our hormones work together and thyroid hormones are at the top

of the list. Interesting thing is ovaries, uterus, breast, etc all

have iodine receptors, and so also need to have enough of that.

Were you taking any type of iodine supplements when you discontinued

soy? Sometimes they can initially temporarily raise TSH. Or perhaps

the soy effect had taken hold in your body by that time. Just a

guess. Mmm, TSH fluctuates during the day - high at one end of the

day and low at the other end of the day.

Don't discount the effects of ingesting too much soy, tho. It's not

at all healthy stuff. I've read some reports that just freak me right

out.

Well, the first month of my life I was given soy milk rather than

goat's milk (didn't have bilirubin lights back then). I did not grow

or gain any weight at all for the time I was taking soy milk, and

unlike all 5 of my tall and long waisted siblings, I am extremely

short waisted with a short body and under 5 feet tall, but my arms

and legs are long. From finger tip to finger tip, my arm span is five

feet 4 (almost 5) inches across, and I have a 34 inch inseam.

[to the peanut gallery: no, my knuckles don't drag on the ground]

Sam :-O

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> > Believe

> > > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> > symptoms,

> > > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> > > radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> > > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> > basically

> > > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> > problems

> > > necessarily come with other problems. I want to

> > have a

> > > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> > overwhelmed

> > > with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> > > coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> > such

> > > a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> > > letters are just fine!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am taking armour and I do not take any supplements other than Vit D.

I am not taking any adrenal meds, however, I am going to look into it

when I see my new doctor. 's good experiences with it have

convinced me I need to look into it because I also have some hairloss

but it has gotten better since I raised my dose to 3 grains daily.

Good luck to you and keep us posted.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Crystal "

<sweetnwright@...> wrote:

>

> I am. I'm suppose to be taking a multi, but can't get the enormous

things

> down.

>

> -- Re: Armour alone

>

> Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What are are you in ?

Roni

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

-

Wow, a vegan for 7 years. That's a lot of discipline!

My TSH is now 9.677. I don't know what kind of

hypotyroidism I have. My doctor just pushed Synthroid

at me without explaining a thing. (I'm new to my area,

and haven't found a good doctor yet.) Is that

something that someone on the list could tell me if I

post my blood test results?

And, as a side note, I have to admit, I grimaced as I

was writing my age and my desire to have a baby. I

realize that risk increases with age, and I expected a

slew of responses telling me that I was too old. So,

it's great for me to hear that you're 35 and wanting

another. It makes it less scary.

--- and Irwin

<familyirwin@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Thanks for your reply. I should also say, I still

> have the breast pain, but am looking into Evening

> primrose oil and Vitamin E. As well as Wheatgrass

> shots, and more carrot juice!!

>

> Yes, I was a vegan for 7 years, didn't eat the

> greatest though. I ate soy in almost everything.

> Then I found the connection with soy and thyroid,

> and got stopped eating it for the most part. It is

> still in somethings, like my Earth Balance buttery

> spread, although I don't eat that very often. I

> still try to avoid dairy as much as possible. I did

> end up eating organic free range eggs, and that has

> helped with my health in a lot of ways, as I was so

> ill by that time I had to try something. It was so

> hard to break the vegan thing for me, but after

> studying with a Natropath, he has healed a lot of

> people's ailments by adding Raw eggs. (YUK!) But,

> especially because I had a lot of heavy metals, and

> the eggs help bind the metals. I also eat Wild

> Alaskan Salmon sparingly. I had major B-12

> deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency. So, now I am

> also supplementing those as well. Both have come

> back into normal range. That has been big for me.

> So, for the most part, I am

> still vegetarian with occasional eggs and salmon.

>

> What is your TSH right now? Also, if you want to

> have a baby, it sounds like you are doing good

> things with avoiding soy and getting a lot of

> nutrition. Did you say that you didn't have

> autoimmune? I know that Soy can bring on

> Hypothryoid in people.

>

> I know for me, my TSH was below 2 when I was

> pregnant, and I made sure it stayed there. It's

> really critical for proper development, but I am

> sure you've looked into all of that.

>

> Yes, I want another baby too. I am 35, and really

> really really want another one!! They are the most

> incredible beakons of love, joy, and happiness.

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Please don't apologize for the long letter. Believe

> me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> symptoms,

> so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> basically

> lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> problems

> necessarily come with other problems. I want to have

> a

> baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> overwhelmed

> with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> such

> a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> letters are just fine!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> --- and Irwin

> <familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> > HI ,

> > I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> > gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> > grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am on

> 2

> > grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> > out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2 weeks

> > before period since starting Armour.

> >

> > But, all of my research and other people's input,

> > have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe this

> > is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> > purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> > noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> > call this placebo, but I think there is something

> to

> > it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> > horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> > ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in about

> a

> > years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at the

> > time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been a

> > thyroid storm.

> >

> > Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> > strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> > happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> > and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> > brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still needed

> to

> > get it down. I eventually want to have another

> > baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> > much better than synthetics.

> >

> > Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> > support. If you think about it, when your thyroid

> > stops working, your other parts of the body have

> to

> > step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> > parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

> attention,

> > then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> > need additional help too!! I've been working

> > overtime for the thyroid "

> >

> > Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> > really think it is necessarily bad to supplement

> on

> > top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> > takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> > happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

> >

> > So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> > journey. You may find you need to add other things

> > to your regimen.

> >

> > Sorry for the long letter.

> > Hugs,

> >

> >

> > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> > without any other

> > hormone replacements or supplements?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What brand of adrenal support are you taking? Are you doing this on

your own or thru a doctor? I am thinking of looking into this further.

Thanks,

Venizia

> Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Birmingham, Alabama. It's really like a different

country here.

--- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

> What are are you in ?

>

> Roni

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> -

>

> Wow, a vegan for 7 years. That's a lot of

> discipline!

>

> My TSH is now 9.677. I don't know what kind of

> hypotyroidism I have. My doctor just pushed

> Synthroid

> at me without explaining a thing. (I'm new to my

> area,

> and haven't found a good doctor yet.) Is that

> something that someone on the list could tell me if

> I

> post my blood test results?

>

> And, as a side note, I have to admit, I grimaced as

> I

> was writing my age and my desire to have a baby. I

> realize that risk increases with age, and I expected

> a

> slew of responses telling me that I was too old. So,

> it's great for me to hear that you're 35 and wanting

> another. It makes it less scary.

>

>

>

> --- and Irwin

> <familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Thanks for your reply. I should also say, I still

> > have the breast pain, but am looking into Evening

> > primrose oil and Vitamin E. As well as Wheatgrass

> > shots, and more carrot juice!!

> >

> > Yes, I was a vegan for 7 years, didn't eat the

> > greatest though. I ate soy in almost everything.

> > Then I found the connection with soy and thyroid,

> > and got stopped eating it for the most part. It is

> > still in somethings, like my Earth Balance buttery

> > spread, although I don't eat that very often. I

> > still try to avoid dairy as much as possible. I

> did

> > end up eating organic free range eggs, and that

> has

> > helped with my health in a lot of ways, as I was

> so

> > ill by that time I had to try something. It was so

> > hard to break the vegan thing for me, but after

> > studying with a Natropath, he has healed a lot of

> > people's ailments by adding Raw eggs. (YUK!) But,

> > especially because I had a lot of heavy metals,

> and

> > the eggs help bind the metals. I also eat Wild

> > Alaskan Salmon sparingly. I had major B-12

> > deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency. So, now I am

> > also supplementing those as well. Both have come

> > back into normal range. That has been big for me.

> > So, for the most part, I am

> > still vegetarian with occasional eggs and salmon.

> >

> > What is your TSH right now? Also, if you want to

> > have a baby, it sounds like you are doing good

> > things with avoiding soy and getting a lot of

> > nutrition. Did you say that you didn't have

> > autoimmune? I know that Soy can bring on

> > Hypothryoid in people.

> >

> > I know for me, my TSH was below 2 when I was

> > pregnant, and I made sure it stayed there. It's

> > really critical for proper development, but I am

> > sure you've looked into all of that.

> >

> > Yes, I want another baby too. I am 35, and really

> > really really want another one!! They are the most

> > incredible beakons of love, joy, and happiness.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> >

> > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> Believe

> > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> > symptoms,

> > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> > radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> > basically

> > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> > problems

> > necessarily come with other problems. I want to

> have

> > a

> > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> > overwhelmed

> > with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> > coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> > such

> > a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> > letters are just fine!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > --- and Irwin

> > <familyirwin@...> wrote:

> >

> > > HI ,

> > > I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> > > gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> > > grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am

> on

> > 2

> > > grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> > > out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2

> weeks

> > > before period since starting Armour.

> > >

> > > But, all of my research and other people's

> input,

> > > have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe

> this

> > > is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> > > purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> > > noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> > > call this placebo, but I think there is

> something

> > to

> > > it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> > > horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> > > ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in

> about

> > a

> > > years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at

> the

> > > time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been

> a

> > > thyroid storm.

> > >

> > > Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> > > strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> > > happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> > > and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> > > brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still

> needed

> > to

> > > get it down. I eventually want to have another

> > > baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> > > much better than synthetics.

> > >

> > > Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> > > support. If you think about it, when your

> thyroid

> > > stops working, your other parts of the body have

> > to

> > > step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> > > parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

> > attention,

> > > then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> > > need additional help too!! I've been working

> > > overtime for the thyroid "

> > >

> > > Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> > > really think it is necessarily bad to supplement

> > on

> > > top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> > > takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> > > happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

> > >

> > > So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> > > journey. You may find you need to add other

> things

> > > to your regimen.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the long letter.

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > >

> > > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > > Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> > > without any other

> > > hormone replacements or supplements?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

>

=== message truncated ===

[Guest guest]

Yes! I did take Iosol for a month, between 1830 mcg

and 3660 mcg a day. I thought I had more energy, but

that easily could have come from wishful thinking.

When my TSH rose higher in a month than it had in the

previous four years, I freaked and decided that I

needed to research before doing anything. I think

that's about when I started reading this list. I had

taken the iodine based on the advice of a worker at my

local health food store.

--- Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

> All of our hormones work together and thyroid

> hormones are at the top

> of the list. Interesting thing is ovaries, uterus,

> breast, etc all

> have iodine receptors, and so also need to have

> enough of that.

>

> Were you taking any type of iodine supplements when

> you discontinued

> soy? Sometimes they can initially temporarily raise

> TSH. Or perhaps

> the soy effect had taken hold in your body by that

> time. Just a

> guess. Mmm, TSH fluctuates during the day - high at

> one end of the

> day and low at the other end of the day.

>

> Don't discount the effects of ingesting too much

> soy, tho. It's not

> at all healthy stuff. I've read some reports that

> just freak me right

> out.

>

> Well, the first month of my life I was given soy

> milk rather than

> goat's milk (didn't have bilirubin lights back

> then). I did not grow

> or gain any weight at all for the time I was taking

> soy milk, and

> unlike all 5 of my tall and long waisted siblings, I

> am extremely

> short waisted with a short body and under 5 feet

> tall, but my arms

> and legs are long. From finger tip to finger tip, my

> arm span is five

> feet 4 (almost 5) inches across, and I have a 34

> inch inseam.

>

> [to the peanut gallery: no, my knuckles don't drag

> on the ground]

>

> Sam :-O

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > >

> > > > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> > > Believe

> > > > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> > > symptoms,

> > > > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour.

> I'm

> > > > radically changing my diet, mostly by

> eliminiating

> > > > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> > > basically

> > > > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> > > problems

> > > > necessarily come with other problems. I want

> to

> > > have a

> > > > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> > > overwhelmed

> > > > with all the talk of everything (adrenals,

> etc.)

> > > > coming into play. I don't know if I have time

> for

> > > such

> > > > a long journey It's all so complicated, so

> long

> > > > letters are just fine!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am, at the moment I am just taking armour. I am deathly allergic to iodine and

I am wary of taking any bio-identical steroids because of being on 10 years of

high dose decadron as part of my chemo for lupus. that gluccosteroid destroyed

my body and caused me to gain lots of weight and become extremely sensitive to

salt and also screwed up my fluid-electrolyte balance system permanently.. so,

I now third space all the time aka retaining fluid.

so, right now I take just the armour. at the moment I am battling a virus and

taking huge amounts of vit. C, so I can't do the 24 hour urine adrenal test.

once I get better and off the vit. c which can interfere with the results of the

adrenal test- I will do the test and send it into the lab.

nancie

Re: Armour alone

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Yes, I am taking armour and in terms of hormones,

nothing for a couple of months. I was using a

testosterone and progesterone cream for a while

though.

--- Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any

> other

> hormone replacements or supplements?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Change brands, Crystal. Some pills are bigger than others.

Roni

Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

I am. I'm suppose to be taking a multi, but can't get the enormous

things

down.

-- Re: Armour alone

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I don't think the soy formula had anything to do with that. I think it is just

genetics.

My son was on soy because he couldn't digest the regular formula, and his

growth

is just fine.

I was never on soy, and just stopped growing at the age of 12, at 5'2 " .

Roni

Sam <k9gang@...> wrote:

All of our hormones work together and thyroid hormones are at the top

of the list. Interesting thing is ovaries, uterus, breast, etc all

have iodine receptors, and so also need to have enough of that.

Were you taking any type of iodine supplements when you discontinued

soy? Sometimes they can initially temporarily raise TSH. Or perhaps

the soy effect had taken hold in your body by that time. Just a

guess. Mmm, TSH fluctuates during the day - high at one end of the

day and low at the other end of the day.

Don't discount the effects of ingesting too much soy, tho. It's not

at all healthy stuff. I've read some reports that just freak me right

out.

Well, the first month of my life I was given soy milk rather than

goat's milk (didn't have bilirubin lights back then). I did not grow

or gain any weight at all for the time I was taking soy milk, and

unlike all 5 of my tall and long waisted siblings, I am extremely

short waisted with a short body and under 5 feet tall, but my arms

and legs are long. From finger tip to finger tip, my arm span is five

feet 4 (almost 5) inches across, and I have a 34 inch inseam.

[to the peanut gallery: no, my knuckles don't drag on the ground]

Sam :-O

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > >

> > > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> > Believe

> > > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> > symptoms,

> > > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> > > radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> > > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> > basically

> > > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> > problems

> > > necessarily come with other problems. I want to

> > have a

> > > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> > overwhelmed

> > > with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> > > coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> > such

> > > a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> > > letters are just fine!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Here you go . Check this list and find yourself a doctor.

http://www.thyroid.org/patients/spec_results.php?location_type=state & state=al

Roni

Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

Birmingham, Alabama. It's really like a different

country here.

--- Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote:

> What are are you in ?

>

> Roni

>

> Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> -

>

> Wow, a vegan for 7 years. That's a lot of

> discipline!

>

> My TSH is now 9.677. I don't know what kind of

> hypotyroidism I have. My doctor just pushed

> Synthroid

> at me without explaining a thing. (I'm new to my

> area,

> and haven't found a good doctor yet.) Is that

> something that someone on the list could tell me if

> I

> post my blood test results?

>

> And, as a side note, I have to admit, I grimaced as

> I

> was writing my age and my desire to have a baby. I

> realize that risk increases with age, and I expected

> a

> slew of responses telling me that I was too old. So,

> it's great for me to hear that you're 35 and wanting

> another. It makes it less scary.

>

>

>

> --- and Irwin

> <familyirwin@...> wrote:

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Thanks for your reply. I should also say, I still

> > have the breast pain, but am looking into Evening

> > primrose oil and Vitamin E. As well as Wheatgrass

> > shots, and more carrot juice!!

> >

> > Yes, I was a vegan for 7 years, didn't eat the

> > greatest though. I ate soy in almost everything.

> > Then I found the connection with soy and thyroid,

> > and got stopped eating it for the most part. It is

> > still in somethings, like my Earth Balance buttery

> > spread, although I don't eat that very often. I

> > still try to avoid dairy as much as possible. I

> did

> > end up eating organic free range eggs, and that

> has

> > helped with my health in a lot of ways, as I was

> so

> > ill by that time I had to try something. It was so

> > hard to break the vegan thing for me, but after

> > studying with a Natropath, he has healed a lot of

> > people's ailments by adding Raw eggs. (YUK!) But,

> > especially because I had a lot of heavy metals,

> and

> > the eggs help bind the metals. I also eat Wild

> > Alaskan Salmon sparingly. I had major B-12

> > deficiency and Vitamin D deficiency. So, now I am

> > also supplementing those as well. Both have come

> > back into normal range. That has been big for me.

> > So, for the most part, I am

> > still vegetarian with occasional eggs and salmon.

> >

> > What is your TSH right now? Also, if you want to

> > have a baby, it sounds like you are doing good

> > things with avoiding soy and getting a lot of

> > nutrition. Did you say that you didn't have

> > autoimmune? I know that Soy can bring on

> > Hypothryoid in people.

> >

> > I know for me, my TSH was below 2 when I was

> > pregnant, and I made sure it stayed there. It's

> > really critical for proper development, but I am

> > sure you've looked into all of that.

> >

> > Yes, I want another baby too. I am 35, and really

> > really really want another one!! They are the most

> > incredible beakons of love, joy, and happiness.

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> >

> > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > Hi ,

> >

> > Please don't apologize for the long letter.

> Believe

> > me, it is much appreciated! I don't yet have

> > symptoms,

> > so I am trying to avoid even taking Armour. I'm

> > radically changing my diet, mostly by eliminiating

> > soy, which until now, as a vegetarian, I've

> > basically

> > lived on. I was curious as to whether thyroid

> > problems

> > necessarily come with other problems. I want to

> have

> > a

> > baby (soon!-I'm already 37!) and am a bit

> > overwhelmed

> > with all the talk of everything (adrenals, etc.)

> > coming into play. I don't know if I have time for

> > such

> > a long journey It's all so complicated, so long

> > letters are just fine!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> > --- and Irwin

> > <familyirwin@...> wrote:

> >

> > > HI ,

> > > I was for about 6 months. I noticed that I kept

> > > gaining weight, and when I increased to 3 1/2

> > > grains, my hair started falling out. Now, I am

> on

> > 2

> > > grains, my hair has stopped pretty much fallilng

> > > out. I also noticed that I had breast pain 2

> weeks

> > > before period since starting Armour.

> > >

> > > But, all of my research and other people's

> input,

> > > have suggested I need adrenal meds. I believe

> this

> > > is true for me, because I went to the HFS and

> > > purchased Raw Adrenal (mild dose) and I started

> > > noticing a huge difference in just 1 week. Some

> > > call this placebo, but I think there is

> something

> > to

> > > it. I was originally on SINThroid, and had a

> > > horrible time. I went off it for 3 years. Lost a

> > > ton of weight, like went from 190 to 130 in

> about

> > a

> > > years time. Even though my TSH was sky high at

> the

> > > time. I have hashimoto's. So, it could have been

> a

> > > thyroid storm.

> > >

> > > Needed to get back on something, as I felt very

> > > strongly that if I didn't, something bad would

> > > happen. So, I tried some " thryroid " supplements,

> > > and although it brought my T4 into normal and

> > > brought my TSH down from 40 to 21, I still

> needed

> > to

> > > get it down. I eventually want to have another

> > > baby, and am on Armour. I really like it sooooo

> > > much better than synthetics.

> > >

> > > Now it is about fine tuning it with some adrenal

> > > support. If you think about it, when your

> thyroid

> > > stops working, your other parts of the body have

> > to

> > > step up and compensate. You can burn out other

> > > parts of the body, so as the thyroid gets

> > attention,

> > > then the other parts of the body now say " Hey, I

> > > need additional help too!! I've been working

> > > overtime for the thyroid "

> > >

> > > Anyway, that made sense to me, and so I don't

> > > really think it is necessarily bad to supplement

> > on

> > > top of Armour. It is about getting well, and it

> > > takes time. We didn't get sick at one time, it

> > > happened over time. So it takes time to rebuild.

> > >

> > > So, what I am trying to say, is that it's a

> > > journey. You may find you need to add other

> things

> > > to your regimen.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the long letter.

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > >

> > > Silver <susanjsilver@...> wrote:

> > > Are any of you just on Armour alone,

> > > without any other

> > > hormone replacements or supplements?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

>

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My father was on long term prednisone and inhaled steroids for COPD. His

skin became so thin that it broke open to the most incredibly light touch.

His internal organs began leaking blood and his fluid problem was just

awful. When J. Hopkins hospital decided to wean/remove him from steroids

altogther because the side effects were so awful for him - he drowned in his

own fluids, despite the lasix. He died a much more horrible death from

steroids than my Mom did from lung cancer. I don't blame you for being

cautious.

Dusty

Re: Armour alone

I am, at the moment I am just taking armour. I am deathly allergic to iodine

and I am wary of taking any bio-identical steroids because of being on 10

years of high dose decadron as part of my chemo for lupus. that

gluccosteroid destroyed my body and caused me to gain lots of weight and

become extremely sensitive to salt and also screwed up my fluid-electrolyte

balance system permanently.. so, I now third space all the time aka

retaining fluid.

so, right now I take just the armour. at the moment I am battling a virus

and taking huge amounts of vit. C, so I can't do the 24 hour urine adrenal

test. once I get better and off the vit. c which can interfere with the

results of the adrenal test- I will do the test and send it into the lab.

nancie

Re: Armour alone

Are any of you just on Armour alone, without any other

hormone replacements or supplements?

Thanks,