Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

[Guest guest]

Also once you have one autoimmune disease you are more than likely to

develop many others.

From: and Irwin

No, MD's told me that the " Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease " was

from the vaccines. I have autoimmune disease (undifferentiated tissue

disease) from the vaccines, hence that is why I was medically discharged

from the military. The time lapse was not that long from when I received

the shots. I was under medical review in 1995, it took 1 year to finally

discharge me. With autoimmune diseases, you can get other diseases. I have

hashimoto...and gastro-intestional (can't digest wheat, but not celiac), and

so, I find it hard to not believe it was from the vaccines.

Blessings.

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

Md's told you what was from the vaccines.....all those illnesses

you listed?

If it was me in that position, I'd be very skeptical of such a statement

given the number of years in between the shots and some of the illnesses.

Time and environmental conditions take their toll on our bodies, as do our

diets and stress. Again, all I can say is I have a number of the very same

illnessess and I didn't get the shots. That would lead me to suspect that

it isn't the shots.

Dusty

[Guest guest]

Many kinds of environmental (innoculations for instance) or hormonal

stresses (producing babies for example) can cause hypothyroidism to

rear its ugly head, in the genetically susceptible.

Gail

>

> Md's told you what was from the vaccines.....all those illnesses

you listed?

> If it was me in that position, I'd be very skeptical of such a

statement

> given the number of years in between the shots and some of the

illnesses.

> Time and environmental conditions take their toll on our bodies,

as do our

> diets and stress. Again, all I can say is I have a number of the

very same

> illnessess and I didn't get the shots. That would lead me to

suspect that

> it isn't the shots.

>

> Dusty

>

[Guest guest]

Everyone should take a tour through a group home or maybe visit a nursing home

where ppl are not capable of making their own healthcare decisions. It's

appalling. I cannot figure out how a competent doc could feel OK about it.

Gracia

My objection to big pharma was never that they ostensibly relied on

science, nor the fact that they are big, but rather that they falsify

results on their trials and give so much money to the doctors that do

the trials that what is amazing is that more people aren't killed.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

Roni,

You wrote:

>

> I will say this, Chuck, you are a staunch advocate for the

> medical, pharmaceutical establishment.

Hardly, but maybe it's time they sent me some free samples. I am more an

advocate of science. To the extent that big pharma relies on science,

I'm for it, except for when they charge too much for it.

Chuck

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

that's the allopathic model. they don't use iodine.

Gracia

Also once you have one autoimmune disease you are more than likely to

develop many others.

From: and Irwin

No, MD's told me that the " Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease " was

from the vaccines. I have autoimmune disease (undifferentiated tissue

disease) from the vaccines, hence that is why I was medically discharged

from the military. The time lapse was not that long from when I received

the shots. I was under medical review in 1995, it took 1 year to finally

discharge me. With autoimmune diseases, you can get other diseases. I have

hashimoto...and gastro-intestional (can't digest wheat, but not celiac), and

so, I find it hard to not believe it was from the vaccines.

Blessings.

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

Md's told you what was from the vaccines.....all those illnesses

you listed?

If it was me in that position, I'd be very skeptical of such a statement

given the number of years in between the shots and some of the illnesses.

Time and environmental conditions take their toll on our bodies, as do our

diets and stress. Again, all I can say is I have a number of the very same

illnessess and I didn't get the shots. That would lead me to suspect that

it isn't the shots.

Dusty

[Guest guest]

the other side of the coin is that if it not for the clinical trials and the

research money that has been given to my doc bevra hahn who is the expert on SLE

and runs the research lab at UCLA I might be Dead!

all the Lupus research saved my life and thousands of others in my shoes.

same goes for cancer patients, MS patients, ALS, MD, heart disease, diabetes,

stroke, liver disease, gauchers disease, thyroid disease, etc.

there is a good side to clinical research and it wouldn't happen without the

underwriting from pharmaceutical companies and private companies and NIH.

BTW some of the funding at NIH comes from drug companies.

nancie

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

Roni,

You wrote:

>

> I will say this, Chuck, you are a staunch advocate for the

> medical, pharmaceutical establishment.

Hardly, but maybe it's time they sent me some free samples. I am more an

advocate of science. To the extent that big pharma relies on science,

I'm for it, except for when they charge too much for it.

Chuck

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef and they

can't be patented.

Gracia

the other side of the coin is that if it not for the clinical trials and the

research money that has been given to my doc bevra hahn who is the expert on SLE

and runs the research lab at UCLA I might be Dead!

all the Lupus research saved my life and thousands of others in my shoes.

same goes for cancer patients, MS patients, ALS, MD, heart disease, diabetes,

stroke, liver disease, gauchers disease, thyroid disease, etc.

there is a good side to clinical research and it wouldn't happen without the

underwriting from pharmaceutical companies and private companies and NIH.

BTW some of the funding at NIH comes from drug companies.

nancie

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[Guest guest]

Actually, I should clarify that MD's told me my autoimmune is from the vaccines,

and so, yes, I feel that hashimoto is ultimately related to the vaccines.

Blessings and hugs to you all, I am glad that we can all agree to disagree

sometimes. And I am grateful to each and everyone of you.

[Guest guest]

LOL big hug back to you.

((((OK group hug))))

Gracia

Actually, I should clarify that MD's told me my autoimmune is from the

vaccines, and so, yes, I feel that hashimoto is ultimately related to the

vaccines.

Blessings and hugs to you all, I am glad that we can all agree to disagree

sometimes. And I am grateful to each and everyone of you.

[Guest guest]

I agree with that, however, that still doesn't mean that

the pharmaceutical companies and the doctors should

lie or hide the truth. It doesn't take much brain power

to realize that those huge multiple shots are just too

much for a little baby's body to handle. Here in the

United States, I believe that they should be giving these

things in ones and twos separated by at least a month.

Actually, this is a good idea for the military too, unless

there's some emergency and it absolutely HAS to be done

all in a bunch. I think it is the amount of these things given

all at once or so close together the body had a really hard

time assimilating the vaccine properly and safely. Just MHO.

Ron

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

There's been so much discussion on the negatives of vaccination that I

wonder if anyone thinks of the positive side. Any horror story you can

think of for complications from vaccination can be multiplied by about a

million for stories of those who suffered and died before vaccinations

were common. I remember my cousin dying of measles at 12 years of age

about 56 years ago... Almost everything you do or don't do carries

risks. We " spend " well over 100 lives per day for the convenience of

driving automobiles.

>

> Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

> <http://groups. / group/hypothyroi dism/message/ 32336;_ylc=

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " and Irwin " familyirwin@ sbcglobal. net

> <mailto:familyirwin@ sbcglobal. net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Possible%

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> fritzalseth <http://profiles. / fritzalseth>

>

>

> Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:16 pm (PST)

>

> Actually, I should clarify that MD's told me my autoimmune is from the

> vaccines, and so, yes, I feel that hashimoto is ultimately related to

> the vaccines.

>

> Blessings and hugs to you all, I am glad that we can all agree to

> disagree sometimes. And I am grateful to each and everyone of you.

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I don't think anyone thinks the researchers be they scientists

or doctors should do research work for free, and it SHOULD

be a good thing that the Pharma companies are willing to

fund the research.

The problem comes in when the researchers and/or doctors

and/or pharmaceutical companies leave out failure data or

side effect data or change the numbers etc.

If they were always being honest with the public, no one would

have any issues with them. Sadly, that is not the case.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef and they

can't be patented.

Gracia

the other side of the coin is that if it not for the clinical trials and the

research money that has been given to my doc bevra hahn who is the expert on SLE

and runs the research lab at UCLA I might be Dead!

all the Lupus research saved my life and thousands of others in my shoes.

same goes for cancer patients, MS patients, ALS, MD, heart disease, diabetes,

stroke, liver disease, gauchers disease, thyroid disease, etc.

there is a good side to clinical research and it wouldn't happen without the

underwriting from pharmaceutical companies and private companies and NIH.

BTW some of the funding at NIH comes from drug companies.

nancie

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,

You flatter me. You wrote:

> Wow, you're oldest son has Aspergers? My Mom works with pre-preschool

> age kids who have things like aspergers. Is he super smart, like you? :-)

>

His three main interests are weather, sports, and video games. My wife

and I each get several emails each day and a couple of phone calls per

hour. I get all the weather and maybe one football report each day. My

wife gets most of the sports and the video games, which also mostly

involve sports. He can tell you what the weather will be a week from

now, all about what El Nino is doing, and how stable the air is, but if

you send him on an errand, he will forget what he is going for and end

up crying in frustration. That is at age 30.

He seems to have all the characteristics of something called Noonan's

syndrome. I have his thyroid checked regularly.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

ok I can agree with that. but it is not as often as one might think. most

medical and pharmaceutical research is done with integrity and honesty.

many of the latest incidents with the drugs like vioxx happened because they

were fast tracked thru the system and the time they spent in clinical trials

wasn't as long as in the past.

see, it all began during the AIDS crisis, the organizations like " ACT-up " {

which I was a member} lobbied to push the approval process for the AIDS meds

through faster because people were dying and the pharm companies were taking

there sweet time in producing medications. so, they eventually agreed under

huge political pressure and they developed the fast track process for AIDS

drugs. they were then pressured to apply this process to other meds as well and

thus certain drugs that should have been researched longer- instead got approved

earlier and so we did not know of all the complications that could happen. given

that, sometimes we will never know ALL the adverse reactions that a drug can

cause just because some of them occur over a very long period of time and also

there is no way to judge the interaction between every individual person's

genetics on the planet versus the drug.

Also, the biggest population involved in clinical trials has been historically

the male prison population. inmates are paid a small sum [ small to us- big to

them] to participate in clinical trials and they do as a way to earn more money

in prison; given that the reactions that happen to them may not happen in other

populations like women, children, older women, teens, etc.

now days, the clinical trial populations have diversified into the general

population more frequently, so that data maybe more applicable.

Also, they are legally required to report every symptom the research subject

reports as having; even if it is not necessarily connected to the drug studied

and they have to list all the symptoms as side effects in the drug's literature.

So, many times the listed adverse reactions may never bee seen in clinical

practice but since it was reported by a research subject it has to be listed.

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef and they

can't be patented.

Gracia

the other side of the coin is that if it not for the clinical trials and the

research money that has been given to my doc bevra hahn who is the expert on SLE

and runs the research lab at UCLA I might be Dead!

all the Lupus research saved my life and thousands of others in my shoes.

same goes for cancer patients, MS patients, ALS, MD, heart disease, diabetes,

stroke, liver disease, gauchers disease, thyroid disease, etc.

there is a good side to clinical research and it wouldn't happen without the

underwriting from pharmaceutical companies and private companies and NIH.

BTW some of the funding at NIH comes from drug companies.

nancie

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the only problem with that is some of the vaccines are time sensitive and they

need to be given during a certain time frame. but they can be given on a weekly

or by weekly process unless time is critical.

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

There's been so much discussion on the negatives of vaccination that I

wonder if anyone thinks of the positive side. Any horror story you can

think of for complications from vaccination can be multiplied by about a

million for stories of those who suffered and died before vaccinations

were common. I remember my cousin dying of measles at 12 years of age

about 56 years ago... Almost everything you do or don't do carries

risks. We " spend " well over 100 lives per day for the convenience of

driving automobiles.

>

> Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

> <http://groups.<http://groups./> / group/hypothyroi dism/message/

32336;_ylc= X3oDMTJxdGpnNmt2 BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1 BGdycElkAzE0NTY2 NARncnBzcElkAzE3

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>

>

>

> Posted by: " and Irwin " familyirwin@ sbcglobal. net

> <mailto:familyirwin@ sbcglobal. net?Subject=%20Re% 3A%20Possible%

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> fritzalseth <http://profiles.<http://profiles./> / fritzalseth>

>

>

> Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:16 pm (PST)

>

> Actually, I should clarify that MD's told me my autoimmune is from the

> vaccines, and so, yes, I feel that hashimoto is ultimately related to

> the vaccines.

>

> Blessings and hugs to you all, I am glad that we can all agree to

> disagree sometimes. And I am grateful to each and everyone of you.

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

It happened in the past too. Are you familiar with thalidamide?

Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it? Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.

Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathe acceptance.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef and they

can't be patented.

Gracia

the other side of the coin is that if it not for the clinical trials and the

research money that has been given to my doc bevra hahn who is the expert on SLE

and runs the research lab at UCLA I might be Dead!

all the Lupus research saved my life and thousands of others in my shoes.

same goes for cancer patients, MS patients, ALS, MD, heart disease, diabetes,

stroke, liver disease, gauchers disease, thyroid disease, etc.

there is a good side to clinical research and it wouldn't happen without the

underwriting from pharmaceutical companies and private companies and NIH.

BTW some of the funding at NIH comes from drug companies.

nancie

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<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any symptom

that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether it is

truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of them

do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

Nancie, I can see that we do not agree at all on this

subject, and I certainly cannot fault anyone for idealism.

I wish all the things that wiped mine away had not

happened.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any symptom

that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether it is

truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of them

do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I agree with everything you wrote but it sure is nice to

see someone take a more balanced approach to doctors and modern

medicine. The internet seems at times to be full of poorly educated

people of less than stellar mental capacity denigrating those much more

blessed/accomplished. That doesn't mean the limits of modern medicine

do not exist; only that we would be far worse off without it.

>

> Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

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> Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@...

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> aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1>

>

>

> Thu Nov 8, 2007 2:03 pm (PST)

>

> that is not the point. people were bashing docs who take money from

> drug companies as being bad or evil and I am saying that every drug or

> herb or supplement out there would not be in existence without grant

> money or seed money. whether it comes from pharm companies or chemical

> companies or private corporations or the government- it has to come

> from SOMEWHERE that has deep pockets. it costs millions if not

> billions to bring a medication to market and that includes ARMOUR,

> cortisone, etc- EVEN DHEA which is recombinant DNA from the human

> adrenal gland. it takes millions [if not a billion to develop the

> process to extract the DHEA from the body and synthesize it to a form

> that can be mass produced and taken by humans. same thing with iodine,

> cortef, etc.

> where do you think these meds or supplements came from? the sky? they

> had to be developed so they would be safe for human consumption. that

> takes Money!

> Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

>

> For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef

> and they can't be patented.

[Guest guest]

The level of their education and/or mental capacity

was not the point. You evidently didn't get it that

what I was talking about was professionals, whose

job it was to " do no harm " were lying and " doing

harm. " I also take umbrage at you deciding that

someone like me is, " poorly educated with less than

stellar mentality. " It would seem to me that only

someone of stellar mentality might be in a position

to maybe make an evaluation like that. However,

someone with stellar mentality would have read

the posts and understood what they were saying.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

>

> For ALL of these illnesses I would use Iodoral, Armour, DHEA, cortef

> and they can't be patented.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

oh I think we agree more than you think- the only sticking point is I do not

believe that every researcher is a criminal and a liar.

I know 100's that are honest and moral and ethical.

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any

symptom that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether

it is truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of

them do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

FYI tests for hypothyroidism are crap. I work with two untreated ppl who

have congenital hypothyroidism. They don't get treatment b/c???? If a person

is deficient in iodine the TSH can also be quite low..... " normal " .

Gracia

,

You flatter me. You wrote:

> Wow, you're oldest son has Aspergers? My Mom works with pre-preschool

> age kids who have things like aspergers. Is he super smart, like you? :-)

>

His three main interests are weather, sports, and video games. My wife

and I each get several emails each day and a couple of phone calls per

hour. I get all the weather and maybe one football report each day. My

wife gets most of the sports and the video games, which also mostly

involve sports. He can tell you what the weather will be a week from

now, all about what El Nino is doing, and how stable the air is, but if

you send him on an errand, he will forget what he is going for and end

up crying in frustration. That is at age 30.

He seems to have all the characteristics of something called Noonan's

syndrome. I have his thyroid checked regularly.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I am well aware that nothing is 100%, that would make

life to easy. You could spot the good guys from the bad

guys real easily. It's only the sellouts in which I'm disappointed.

Maybe all this discussion will be good for the soul of just one

researcher that reads all this. That would make it all worthwhile.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any symptom

that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether it is

truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of them

do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

I am a researcher....

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any

symptom that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether

it is truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of

them do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you have been part of this discussion. While

I am convinced of your veracity, I would hope that,

in your unique position, you would report on anything

that is not honest and true to whomever is appropriate.

Thank you for all the good work that I'm sure you are

doing. I feel that it is so unfair to the consumers and to

other researchers such as yourself, when dishonest

people in this field (or any other) do dishonest things.

Roni

Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid

<Do you really believe that just because something is illegal that

no one will do it>

I never said that. what I said was that they have to legally report any symptom

that a study subject reports during the trial as a side effect whether it is

truly related to the drug or not.

obliviously, some researchers have done that, but you can't say that all of them

do it. I have done research and I know that we did not alter any results or

facts in our research and I know of 100's of other researchers that are honest

and moral and would Never alter their outcome data for anything or anyone.

<Fast tracking has nothing to do with lying and

altering test results, or leaving negative ones out altogether.>

fast tracking can make it easier to manipulate the facts- because NOT all the

data is there because it hasn't been studied long enough.

<Lying is lying whether one of us does it or a doctor does it. The

title doesn't bequeathed acceptance.>

I never said that it does.

[Guest guest]

I see I goofed again and included text other than that to which I wished

to reply. In actually I only intended to have reference to Nanci's post

and my comments had nothing to do with your statement about those who

lie or otherwise distort research data. Because I accidentally included

text from your post it made it seem I was specifically replying to your

post; while in reality I hadn't that intent and did not even realize

that your text was included. I only found it after I started to look

for the reason you seemed upset, and there it is.

I'm sorry that my post seemed to be attacking your position. Although

I'm sure I might not fully agree with it I'm also sure some dishonesty

does exist. My desktop is kaput and I'm having quite a bit of

difficulty in typing and formatting messages with this laptop.

I'll go stand in the corner now... [ggg]

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> Posted by: " Roni Molin " matchermaam@...

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> matchermaam <matchermaam>

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> Fri Nov 9, 2007 2:55 pm (PST)

>

> The level of their education and/or mental capacity

> was not the point. You evidently didn't get it that

> what I was talking about was professionals, whose

> job it was to " do no harm " were lying and " doing

> harm. " I also take umbrage at you deciding that

> someone like me is, " poorly educated with less than

> stellar mentality. " It would seem to me that only

> someone of stellar mentality might be in a position

> to maybe make an evaluation like that. However,

> someone with stellar mentality would have read

> the posts and understood what they were saying.

>

> Roni

>

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[Guest guest]

Sorry I got so hot under the collar. Must have been a

hot flash. LOL

Roni

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