Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though)...if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis. However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated. However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 , Where abouts are you located? Are you in the military still? -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hi Crystal, We live in Sacramento, CA. Not in the military any more, got a medical discharge in 1996. The cause was " undifferentiaed connective tissue disorder, meeting minimum critera for lupus (which I don't have, and have been retested...hallelujah!!) But, now I have autoimmune disease (hashimoto) and md's have told me it was from the vaccines I got while in the military...oh joy!! ;o) Hugs, Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: , Where abouts are you located? Are you in the military still? -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 I've been trying to figure this out by checking the net. However, today is not my best day, and I haven't been very productive. I'll keep trying though and maybe I'll find out sometime tomorrow. Roni Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though)...if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic- dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis. However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated. However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Which vaccines were those? Roni Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic- dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Is that more south than San Diego? -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I have Hashimoto's. I had vaccinations done when moved here a few years ago. I had MMR, Td and Varicella done. Not sure if this caused Hashimoto's because I was only diagnosed 2 months ago. I am TTC. Anyone knows how to reduce the antibodies? I am taking extra selenium. Is it really true vaccinations cause Hashimoto's? Thanks, Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: Is that more south than San Diego? -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Note: All links within content go to MayoClinic.com Diseases and Conditions Primary aldosteronism From MayoClinic.com Special to CNN.com Introduction Though your adrenal glands are each only about half the size of your thumb, these tiny titans dictate much of what happens in your body. Perched atop each of your kidneys, they produce hormones that help regulate your metabolism, immune system, blood pressure and other essential functions. One such hormone is aldosterone, which manages your body's balance of sodium, potassium and water. In primary aldosteronism, your body produces too much of this hormone, causing you to retain sodium and lose potassium. Sodium and potassium normally work together to help maintain the right balance of fluids in your body, transmit nerve impulses, and contract and relax your muscles. But excess aldosterone causes sodium retention, which in turn attracts and holds excess water, increasing your blood volume and blood pressure. Doctors once considered primary aldosteronism rare. However, as screening for this condition becomes more common, evidence is emerging that it may be responsible for as many as one in 10 cases of high blood pressure. The condition is especially common in people with severe, uncontrolled high blood pressure. Treatment depends on the underlying cause, but effective surgery and medications are available. Signs and symptoms High blood pressure that doesn't respond completely to medication is the most common sign of primary aldosteronism. Less common signs and symptoms of this condition may include: Headache Muscle weakness and cramps Fatigue Temporary paralysis Numbness Pricking, tingling sensation Excessive thirst Excessive urination Causes A noncancerous (benign) growth (aldosteronoma) in an adrenal gland — a condition also known as Conn's syndrome — is the most common known cause of primary aldosteronism. Other causes include: Overactivity of both adrenal glands (bilateral hyperplasia) Rarely, cancerous (malignant) growths in the outer layer (cortex) of the adrenal gland Rarely, genetic mutations Risk factors Most people with high blood pressure don't have primary aldosteronism. You're at increased risk of this condition if you have high blood pressure and at least one of the following signs: Potassium deficiency (hypokalemia) Poorly controlled high blood pressure, despite having tried multiple medications A benign growth on your adrenal gland Thickening of the wall of the left pumping chamber of your heart (left ventricular hypertrophy) A rare type of primary aldosteronism called glucocorticoid-remediable aldosteronism (GRA) runs in families. This condition may cause high blood pressure in children and young adults. Genetic testing can identify people at risk. When to seek medical advice If you have any of the following signs or symptoms, see your doctor: Persistent tingling sensation Muscle cramps and weakness not explained by physical activity Temporary paralysis Unexplained, excessive thirst or urination Have your blood pressure checked regularly in order to catch high blood pressure in its early stages, before serious damage occurs to your heart. Have a screening at least every two years, depending on your current health, medical history and other risk factors for cardiovascular disease. Ask your doctor about the best interval for you. Screening and diagnosis Your doctor may first suspect primary aldosteronism if you have high blood pressure and low blood potassium, but many people with this condition — especially those in the early stages of the disease — have normal potassium levels. To diagnose primary aldosteronism, your doctor may measure the levels of aldosterone and renin in your blood. Renin is an enzyme released by your kidneys that helps regulate blood pressure. Many people with high blood pressure have low renin levels, but few also have the very high aldosterone levels that point to primary aldosteronism. Dietary sodium, posture, blood potassium levels and certain medications can alter the results of this test. Your doctor will recommend a number of changes before the test to control these factors, including following a low-sodium diet, taking medications to control your potassium levels, and adjusting your current medications to eliminate those that can interfere with test results. To confirm the diagnosis, your doctor also may attempt to suppress your aldosterone levels by artificially increasing your sodium levels. If you have primary aldosteronism, your aldosterone levels will remain high. Your doctor may use one of three tests: Oral salt loading. You'll follow a high-sodium diet for three days before your doctor measures aldosterone and sodium levels in your urine. Saline loading. Your aldosterone levels are tested after sodium mixed with water (saline) is infused into your bloodstream for several hours. Fludrocortisone suppression test (FST). After you've followed a high-sodium diet and taken fludrocortisone — which mimics the action of aldosterone — for three days, aldosterone levels in your blood are measured. If you receive a diagnosis of primary aldosteronism, your doctor will run additional tests to determine whether the underlying cause is an aldosteronoma or overactive adrenal glands. Tests may include: Abdominal computerized tomography (CT) scan. A CT scan can help identify a tumor on your adrenal gland or an enlargement that suggests overactivity. This imaging test may miss small but important abnormalities, so you may need further testing. Adrenal vein sampling. This is the most reliable test for determining the cause of primary aldosteronism. A radiologist draws blood from both your right and left adrenal veins and compares the two samples. Aldosterone levels that are significantly higher on one side indicate the presence of an aldosteronoma on that side. Aldosterone levels that are similar on both sides point to overactivity in both glands. Complications Untreated high blood pressure may lead to heart attack, heart failure, stroke, kidney failure, dementia, visual impairment and premature death. Adrenal vein sampling increases your risk of a blood clot (thrombosis) developing at the site where blood is drawn. If your doctor recommends this test, be sure it's performed by an experienced radiologist. Treatment Treatment for primary aldosteronism depends on the underlying cause. Bilateral adrenal hyperplasia A combination of medications and lifestyle modifications can effectively treat primary aldosteronism caused by overactive adrenal glands. Medications. Mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists block the action of aldosterone in your body. Your doctor may first prescribe spironolactone (Aldactone). This medication helps correct high blood pressure and low potassium, but it may cause problems. In addition to blocking aldosterone receptors, spironolactone blocks androgen and progesterone receptors and may inhibit the action of these hormones. Side effects may include male breast enlargement (gynecomastia), decreased libido, impotence, menstrual irregularities and gastrointestinal distress. Another mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist called eplerenone acts just on aldosterone receptors, eliminating the sex-hormone side effects associated with spironolactone. Researchers are comparing the two drugs in clinical studies, but they don't yet know whether eplerenone manages blood pressure and potassium levels as well as spironolactone does. Your doctor may recommend eplerenone if you experience serious side effects with spironolactone. Lifestyle changes. All high blood pressure medications are more effective when combined with a healthy diet and lifestyle. Work with your doctor to create a plan to reduce the sodium in your diet and maintain a healthy body weight. Getting regular exercise, limiting your alcohol intake and stopping smoking also may improve your response to medications. Aldosteronoma Primary aldosteronism caused by a benign tumor on your adrenal gland also can be effectively treated with mineralocorticoid receptor antagonists and lifestyle changes. However, high blood pressure and low potassium will return if you stop taking your medications. Surgical removal of the adrenal gland containing the aldosteronoma (adrenalectomy) may permanently resolve both high blood pressure and potassium deficiency. Some people continue to have less severe high blood pressure after surgery, especially if they had chronic, uncontrolled high blood pressure before. Medications can help manage this condition. Blood pressure usually drops gradually after an adrenalectomy. Your doctor will follow you closely after surgery and progressively adjust or eliminate your high blood pressure medications. Self-care Effective treatments are available for primary aldosteronism, but don't count on these therapies keeping your blood pressure low on their own. A healthy lifestyle is essential for maintaining long-term heart health. Take these steps: Follow a healthy diet. Limit the sodium in your diet by focusing on fresh foods and reduced-sodium products, avoiding condiments, and removing salt from recipes. Diets that also emphasize a healthy variety of foods, including grains, fruits, vegetables and low-fat dairy products, can promote weight loss and help to lower blood pressure. Try the Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension (DASH) diet — it has proven benefits for your heart. Achieve a healthy weight. If your body mass index (BMI) is 25 or more, losing as few as 10 pounds may reduce your blood pressure. Exercise. Regular aerobic exercise seems to lower blood pressure in some people, even without weight loss. You don't have to hit the gym — walking vigorously for 30 minutes most days of the week can significantly improve your health. Try walking with a friend at lunch instead of dining out. Don't smoke. If you smoke, stop. Nicotine in tobacco makes your heart work harder by temporarily constricting your blood vessels and increasing your heart rate and blood pressure. Talk to your doctor about medications that can help you stop smoking. Limit alcohol and caffeine. Both substances can raise your blood pressure, and alcohol can interfere with the effectiveness of some blood pressure medications. Ask your doctor whether moderate alcohol consumption is safe for you. Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic- dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hashimoto's Thyroiditis Prepared by: a Cihakova MD, PhD Definition: Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is a chronic inflammatory autoimmune disease of the thyroid gland. Description: The thyroid produces two hormones, T3 and T4, which control metabolism of almost all cells in a body. The pituitary gland secrets a hormone called TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone), which increases thyroid gland hormone production. Hashimoto's thyroiditis occurs when inflammation caused by an autoimmune process destroys the thyroid gland, leading to an insufficient production of thyroid hormones. The disease is named after its discoverer, Hakaru Hashimoto. Hashimoto's thyroiditis is the most common form of thyroiditis. Symptoms: Usually painless, diffuse and gradual enlargement of the thyroid gland, which can be notice as enlargement of neck. Rarely, it can be accompanied with shortness of breath (dyspnea) or difficulty swallowing (dysphagia) due to the pressure of the growing goiter. The thyroid hormone deficiency may have no symptoms. However, the common symptoms are: fatigue, depression, sensitivity to cold, weight gain, muscle weakness, coarsening of the skin, dry or brittle hair, constipation, muscle cramps, increased menstrual flow, and increased risk of miscarriage Diagnosis: Serologic tests for antibodies and hormones level in blood: Subclinical hypothyroidism -normal FT4, but elevated TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone) Clinical primary hypothyroidism – low FT4, low T3 and elevated TSH Needle biopsy and serologic tests for antibodies. Cholesterol and triacylglycerids can be increased. Clinical signs: presence of goiter; facial pallor; bradycardia; hypertension; delayed relaxation of deep-tendon reflexes; and edema (myxedema) of the skin of the hands, feet, and eyelids. Incidence: 0.3–1.5 cases per 1,000 per year. The number of diagnosed Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is increasing over time, mainly due to better diagnostic techniques and an active search among family members of known patients. The female-to-male ratio is 20:1. The disease is most common in middle aged women, but it can affect all age groups, including children. Treatment: Currently, there is no treatment capable of stopping the autoimmune process leading to Hashimoto's thyroiditis. Hypothyroidism, which is a result of the thyroid gland destruction, can be treated by a lifelong thyroide hormone replacement. Under the hormone replacement therapy, the size of the goiter usually decreases. If not, surgery may be required. Pathogenesis: At this stage, we have circumstantial and indirect evidence that Hashimoto’s thyroiditis is an autoimmune disease. Circumstantial evidence: 25 percent of patients with Hashimoto's thyroiditis may develop polyglandular syndromes (such as pernicious anemia, diabetes, or adrenal insufficiency) or other autoimmune diseases (such as Sjogren’s syndrome). Positive family history of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis or others autoimmune diseases. High serum of IgG antibodies. The thyroid gland has a diffuse lymphocyte infiltration, fibrosis, and parenchymal atrophy. Presence of specific antibodies against thyroglobulin (TG) and thyroid peroxidase (TPO). Presence of these antibodies is not enough for a diagnosis of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, since 10 percent of women in the population have these antibodies. Indirect evidence: Mouse model: Experimental autoimmune thyroiditis (EAT) can be induced in genetically susceptible animals by immunization with mouse thyroglobulin (MTg) in an adjuvant. Adoptive transfer of immunized donor spleen cells into naive recipients cause the disease as well. Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic- dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 , You wrote: > ... Is it really true vaccinations cause Hashimoto's? The most correct answer is probably still that nobody knows for sure. At best it depends on the vaccine. There are some who claim that mercury based preservatives in various vaccinations cause autism in children and autoimmune problems in adults. However, the evidence to support this is weak. Here is a current paper on the subject: http://image.thelancet.com/extras/02art9340web.pdf Vaccination and autoimmune disease: what is the evidence? C Wraith, Michel Goldman, -Henri Lambert Summary As many as one in 20 people in Europe and North America have some form of autoimmune disease. These diseases arise in genetically predisposed individuals but require an environmental trigger. Of the many potential environmental factors, infections are the most likely cause. Microbial antigens can induce cross-reactive immune responses against self-antigens, whereas infections can non-specifically enhance their presentation to the immune system. The immune system uses fail-safe mechanisms to suppress infection-associated tissue damage and thus limits autoimmune responses. The association between infection and autoimmune disease has, however, stimulated a debate as to whether such diseases might also be triggered by vaccines. Indeed there are numerous claims and counter claims relating to such a risk. Here we review the mechanisms involved in the induction of autoimmunity and assess the implications for vaccination in human beings. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 No, northern california, east of san francisco. Where do you live? ) Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: Is that more south than San Diego? -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. Rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis are examples of autoimmune diseases. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems. There have been many many parents who swear that they had normal children prior to being vaccinated with the MMR and or the DTap. We should be listening to these parents not phama groups who get paid billions each year to make vacc's. I'm offended that a man of your intelligence would make a statement that we all know is clearly wrong. I still love you though, and no apology necessary:) Just got this off another group California-Oregon Unvaccinated Children Survey Generation Rescue 11-3-7 In 1983, the Centers for Disease Control recommended a total of 10 vaccines for our children. In 2007, the CDC recommends 36, an increase of 260%. Yet, no studies have ever been done to compare neurological disorder ( " ND " ) rates of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children. We commissioned a national market research firm to survey more than 13,000 children in California and Oregon. Read the results here. Cal-Oregon Unvaccinated Survey " We surveyed over 9,000 boys in California and Oregon and found that vaccinated boys had a 155% greater chance of having a neurological disorder like ADHD or autism than unvaccinated boys. " -Generation Rescue, June 26, 2007 Methodology Generation Rescue commissioned an independent opinion research firm, SurveyUSA of Verona NJ, to conduct a telephone survey in nine counties in California and Oregon. Counties were selected by Generation Rescue. Interviews were successfully completed in 11,817 households with one or more children age 4 to 17. From those 11,817 households, data on 17,674 children was gathered. Of the 17,674 children inventoried, 991 were described as being completely unvaccinated. For each unvaccinated child, a health battery was administered. Generation Rescue chose to use telephone interviews with parents to gather data on children, so as to closely mirror the methodology the CDC uses to establish national prevalence for NDs such as ADHD and autism through their national phone survey of parent responses. Generation Rescue chose to focus on children ages 4-17 to match the age range used by CDC. Are parent responses a reliable indicator of a child's diagnostic status? According to Dr. Schieve, co-author of the CDC's national phone survey study, in discussing the CDC's two phone surveys on autism prevalence, " the consistency of prevalence estimates across the two surveys supports high reliability or reproducibility of parental report of autism and reliability is one important component of validity. " SurveyUSA is a well-known national opinion research firm with unique expertise in canvassing local communities. SurveyUSA has no vested interest in any outcome this or any survey might produce. You can see a copy of the questionnaire used in the survey here. The data the survey intended to capture included: - Households with a child or children aged 4-17 - Whether or not that child had been vaccinated - Whether or not that child had any one (or more) of the following Diagnosis: ADD, ADHD, Asperger's, PDD-NOS, Autism, Asthma, or Juvenile Diabetes (the final two of which were added to consider other health outcomes). The results of the survey allowed us to compare the prevalence (what percentage of children have a particular diagnosis) to see if there was any meaningful difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated children. The most common way to measure prevalence differences is through a calculation known as relative risk or the Risk Ratio, where we compared prevalence amongst unvaccinated children to prevalence amongst vaccinated children. So, if 5% of unvaccinated children have asthma, and 10% of vaccinated children have asthma, that represents an " RR " of 2.0 (10%/5%), or a difference of 100%. We were also able to look at the data by gender, age, and county. Results SurveyUSA gathered data on 9,175 boys and 8,499 girls. Counties surveyed in California included: San Diego Sonoma Orange Sacramento Marin Counties surveyed in Oregon included: Multnomah n Lane The results of the survey can be accessed as a pdf file here. This is the primary data we received from SurveyUSA and it can be used for anyone to independently analyze our results. Generation Rescue analyzed the data provided by SurveyUSA, and a copy of our analysis can be found here. The most notable results of our survey are with the boys, which is not surprising considering boys represent approximately 80% of total cases of NDs. Namely: All vaccinated boys, compared to unvaccinated boys: - Vaccinated boys were 155% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.55) - Vaccinated boys were 224% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.24) - Vaccinated boys were 61% more likely to have autism (RR 1.61) Older vaccinated boys, ages 11-17 (about half the boys surveyed), compared to older unvaccinated boys: - Vaccinated boys were 158% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.58) - Vaccinated boys were 317% more likely to have ADHD (RR 4.17) - Vaccinated boys were 112% more likely to have autism (RR 2.12) (Note: older children may be a more reliable indicator because many children are not diagnosed until they are 6-8 years old, and we captured data beginning at age 4.) All vaccinated boys, removing one county with unusual results (Multnomah, OR), compared to unvaccinated boys: - Vaccinated boys were 185% more likely to have a neurological disorder (RR 2.85) - Vaccinated boys were 279% more likely to have ADHD (RR 3.79) - Vaccinated boys were 146% more likely to have autism (RR 2.46) All vaccinated boys and girls, compared to unvaccinated boys and girls: - Vaccinated boys and girls were 120% more likely to have asthma (RR 2.20) - No correlation established for juvenile diabetes All vaccinated girls, compared to unvaccinated girls: - No meaningful differences in prevalence were noted for NDs (which may be due to the smaller sample size of the study because girls represent about 20% of cases.) Commentary Generation Rescue is not representing that our study proves that the U.S. vaccine schedule has caused an epidemic in neurological disorders amongst our children. We are a small non-profit organization. For less than $200,000 we were able to complete a study that the CDC, with an $8 billion a year budget, has been unable or unwilling to do. We think the results of our survey lend credibility to the urgent need to do a larger scale study to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children for neurodevelopmental outcomes It is also the opinion of Generation Rescue that we are over-vaccinating our children, and we encourage parents to use caution in how they choose to vaccinate their children, particularly boys. In the vaccine section of our website, we provide additional detail on vaccines and vaccinating safely and provide three alternative vaccine schedules parents may want to consider for their children. Background: In 1983, the Centers for Disease Control ( " CDC " ) recommended a total of 10 vaccines for our children up to the age of 5. In 2007, the CDC recommends 36 an increase of 260%, or 3.6x. (See a comparison here). During this time period, we have witnessed an epidemic of childhood neurological disorders ( " NDs " ). Today, the CDC estimates that 1 in 13 U.S. children has been diagnosed with ADHD and 1 in 150 has been diagnosed with autism. In the 1980s, ADHD was almost unheard of and autism was estimated to affect 1 in 10,000 children. Boys are significantly more affected by NDs, accounting for approximately 80% of all cases. Unfortunately, the mainstream media still misreports that the explosive growth in NDs is the results of " better diagnosis " despite the considerable published scientific research to refute this position. As one example, Department of Developmental Services in California, known for keeping the best autism data in the country, issued this report regarding the growth of autism rates in California where they stated: " There is no evidence that a loosening in the diagnostic criteria has contributed to increased number of autism clients...we conclude that some, if not all, of the observed increase represents a true increase in cases of autism in California...a purely genetic basis for autism does not fully explain the increasing autism prevalence. Other theories that attempt to better explain the observed increase in autism cases include environmental exposures to substances such as mercury; viral exposures; autoimmune disorders; and childhood vaccinations. " Many parents blame vaccines for their children's ND, and many published biological studies seem to support this position, because vaccines contain ingredients capable of causing neurological damage. Yet, no studies have ever been done to compare ND rates of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children. Until now. (Note: Neurolological disorders include ADD, ADHD, Asperger's, PDD-NOS, and Autism.) Brief commentary: There is a lot of misreporting that would lead parents to believe that vaccines have already been scientifically proven to be unrelated to the epidemic of NDs. This is simply not true. - U.S. children have been analyzed to compare those who received some mercury in their vaccines with those who received more mercury in their vaccines for the outcome of autism (not ADHD). The conclusion of the study was neutral, meaning a link could neither be confirmed nor denied. This study, conducted by the CDC, is the only study ever done using data of U.S. Children. - Children in several European countries have been analyzed to compare those who received mercury in their shots with those who received no mercury in their shots for the outcome of autism. The conclusions of these studies was that no association was found, although these studies have been disputed. See <http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/>www.putchildrenfirst.org for more details. - Further, in 2006 the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, at the request of Senator ph Lieberman, issued this report which effectively conceded that both the CDC study of U.S. children and the Danish Studies " were of poor study design and not reliable in determining whether or not Thimerosal causes autism. As this article from UPI reporter Dan Olmsted noted following the report's release: " For three years, the CDC has used a study conducted on its own Vaccine Safety Datalink to reassure parents that mercury in vaccines does not cause autism. Now a panel of government-appointed experts says there are " serious problems " with exactly the approach the CDC took. " Olmsted interviewed the Chairperson of the NIEHS Committee who was quoted as saying: " It's an 'open question' whether anything about vaccines -- timing, dose, preservative -- is related to the rise in diagnoses [of autism]. Some studies are stronger than others. The Verstraeten [Pediatrics] study was an improvement on other studies including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs that limit what we can learn from them. " - No studies have ever been done to compare ND rates of children who received vaccines with those who received no vaccines, which is what our survey accomplished. Moreover, no studies have ever explored a link between vaccines and ADHD, despite the fact that 1 in 13 U.S. children have this diagnosis (versus 1 in 150 for autism). - Even the Institute of Medicine, which is often cited in the media for issuing a 2004 report refuting the relationship between mercury and autism, held a 2007 workshop on " autism and the environment " that featured presentations and discussions on strategies for research focusing on the potential relationship between autism and an array of environmental exposures. " The glaring absence of a study to compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children for ND rates caused Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) to introduce this bill to compel the National Institutes of Health to do such a study. Potential Criticisms The question of whether or not vaccines have played and role in the epidemic of neurological disorders is an explosive topic with many passionate voices on both sides of the debate. Our survey results will most assuredly be challenged and criticized. Some of the more likely challenges (and our responses) include: Criticism: Parents who do not vaccinate their children are less likely to seek an ND diagnosis, which explains the difference in prevalence you found. Response: We think the data disproves this, because we found no meaningful difference in prevalence for NDs between vaccinated and unvaccinated girls. If this was simply an issue of parent behavior, the girls would have shown wide discrepancies in prevalence, too, and they did not. It's also interesting to consider a study completed by the CDC and published in Pediatrics, Children Who Have Received No Vaccines: Who Are They and Where Do They Live? The study noted: " Unvaccinated children tended to be white, to have a mother who was married and had a college degree, to live in a household with an annual income exceeding $75,000, and to have parents who expressed concerns regarding the safety of vaccines and indicated that medical doctors have little influence over vaccination decisions for their children. " And, it continues: " Why do some parents avoid vaccinating their children? Our results indicate that parents of unvaccinated children are much more concerned about vaccine safety than are parents whose children receive Your browser may not support display of this image.1 vaccine dose. In a survey of parent's beliefs and practices regarding vaccinations and autism, siblings in families in which there was an autistic child were 3 times more likely to be unvaccinated, compared with siblings in families in which there was a child with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder. In response to concerns about the perceived risk of autism resulting from vaccinations, parents might have avoided having their sons vaccinated at a higher rate than their daughters, as a result of knowing that they have risk factors for autism and knowing that the rate of autism is 4 times greater for boys than for girls. " Criticism: The ratio of diagnosed to undiagnosed children in this survey may be too high, indicating a potential response bias. Response: The survey does not attempt to newly establish the prevalence of autism in the general population. The survey attempts only to shed preliminary light on any relationship between vaccination status and diagnosis. It is not surprising and not unexpected that parents with children who have received a diagnosis may have been more willing to complete the health battery included in this survey than parents of children who have not been diagnosed. However, that does not make the parents who did participate in this study likely to lie about, or forget about, the vaccination status of their children. The only way a possible " response bias " in favor of those households with a diagnosed child would invalidate the results of this research is if asking about vaccination status of a child independently produced a bias and that bias interacted with the bias caused by asking about NDs. For the concern to be valid: somehow, the main group of vaccinated families would have to be more likely to respond if there was an ND in the family, without also affecting the response of unvaccinated families in the same way. While such an interaction is possible, this criticism can be addressed by further, more elaborate research. Such a potential interaction does not invalidate this research. It's also worth considering that if there was response bias, we should have received a disproportionate share of our responses from parents of boys, who represent 80% of NDs, and we did not. Boys were 51.9% of responses and girls were 48.1%. (We hope there was some response bias, because our numbers show a prevalence of autism of 1 in 43, far higher than the CDC's reported number of 1 in 150.) Criticism: Parent responses is not a reliable way to gauge either a child's diagnosis or whether or not a child has been vaccinated. Response: We would point to our " Methodology " section above and cite the CDC who also uses a parent phone survey to gauge prevalence of NDs in children. We generally mimicked their approach. Final Thought Why hasn't a larger scale study comparing ND rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated children already taken place? We don't know. We credit Dan Olmsted, a reporter for United Press International, with giving us the idea to do this study. At a press conference in the summer of 2005, Mr. Olmsted had a chance to ask Gerberding, the Director of the CDC, a simple question. Mr. Olmsted asked: " Has the government ever looked at the autism rate in an unvaccinated U.S. population, and if not, why not? " Ms. Gerberding's answer: " In this country, we have very high levels of vaccination as you probably know, and I think this year we have record immunization levels among all of our children, so to (select an unvaccinated group) that on a population basis would be representative to look at incidence in that population compared to the other population would be something that could be done. But as we're learning, just trying to look at autism in a community the size of Atlanta, it's very, very difficult to get an effective numerator and denominator to get a reliable diagnosis. I think those kind of studies could be done and should be done. You'd have to adjust for the strong genetic component that also distinguishes, for example, people in Amish communities who may elect not to be immunized (and) also have genetic connectivity that would make them different from populations that are in other sectors of the United States. So drawing some conclusions from them would be very difficult. I think with reference to the timing of all of this, good science does take time, and it's part of one of the messages I feel like I've learned from the feedback that we've gotten from parents groups this summer (in) struggling with developing a more robust and a faster research agenda, is let's speed this up. Let's look for the early studies that could give us at least some hypotheses to test and evaluate and get information flowing through the research pipeline as quickly as we can. So we are committed to doing that, and as I mentioned, in terms of just measuring the frequency of autism in the population some pretty big steps have been taken. We're careful not to jump ahead of our data, but we think we will be able to provide more accurate information in the next year or so than we've been able to do up to this point. And I know that is our responsibility. We've also benefited from some increased investments in these areas that have allowed us to do this, and so we thank Congress and we thank the administration for supporting those investments, not just at CDC but also at NIH and FDA. " Is Ms. Gerberding genuinely interested in getting an answer? We will let the reader decide. © GENERATION RESCUE. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED -- http://image.thelancet.com/extras/02art9340web.pdf Vaccination and autoimmune disease: what is the evidence? C Wraith, Michel Goldman, -Henri Lambert Summary As many as one in 20 people in Europe and North America have some form of autoimmune disease. These diseases arise in genetically predisposed individuals but require an environmental trigger. Of the many potential environmental factors, infections are the most likely cause. Microbial antigens can induce cross-reactive immune responses against self-antigens, whereas infections can non-specifically enhance their presentation to the immune system. The immune system uses fail-safe mechanisms to suppress infection-associated tissue damage and thus limits autoimmune responses. The association between infection and autoimmune disease has, however, stimulated a debate as to whether such diseases might also be triggered by vaccines. Indeed there are numerous claims and counter claims relating to such a risk. Here we review the mechanisms involved in the induction of autoimmunity and assess the implications for vaccination in human beings. 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Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Gotcha. I never was good at remembering my geography (hmmm I wonder why). I am in Oklahoma City. -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid wow, thanks Roni! This is very good information. I had this test done, and I am pretty sure I had this high sodium/potassium ratio. (I'm not at home to verify though).. if this is true, what can I do to get this back into balance?? Blessings, Roni Molin <matchermaam@...> wrote: HIGH SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO A normal hair sodium/potassium ratio is between 2.5:1 and about 4:1. Commonly, the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated on a hair analysis. A high ratio is associated with acute stress, inflammation, pain, anger, a sympathetic-dominant or aggressive personality, moving forward in life, metal toxicity or zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. NOTE: Hair must not be washed at the laboratory to obtain accurate sodium and potassium readings. Readings are inaccurate if the hair is washed. ACUTE STRESS A high sodium/potassium ratio on a hair analysis is an indicator of acute stress. The reason is as follows: 1) Acute stress causes increased adrenal gland activity. 2) This results in a rise in the secretion of the hormone aldosterone. 3) Aldosterone secretion causes sodium to be retained in the body by the kidneys. Thus the sodium level in the body tissues rises. Sodium retention by aldosterone is part of the alarm reaction or fight-flight reaction to stress. Early in the alarm reaction, the potassium level remains low. Thus, on a tissue mineral test, the ratio of sodium to potassium is elevated. In contrast, a low sodium/potassium ratio indicates chronic stress and an exhaustion stage of stress. Some people ask how it is possible to have an alarm reaction is one is a slow oxidizer or in an exhaustion stage of stress. Slow oxidation indicates an exhaustion stage of stress. However, within the exhaustion stage one can have an acute stress response indicated by a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is a common occurrence. A slow oxidizer with a low sodium/potassium ratio means a double exhaustion stage pattern, which is definitely less desirable. INFLAMMATION Aldosterone is a pro-inflammatory hormone. It tends to increase inflammation in the body. Cortisol and cortisone, associated more with potassium levels, are anti-inflammatory hormones because they diminish inflammation. The pro and anti-inflammatory hormones must be in a good balance with each other for optimum health. A person with a high sodium/potassium ratio is secreting more aldosterone, in relation to cortisol. Because there is more pro-inflammatory hormone, a tendency for inflammation exists in the body. This is particularly true when the sodium/potassium ratio is greater than 10:1. Inflammation can take the form of any 'itis', such as arthritis, bursitis, colitis, or tendonitis. It is a tendency for aches and pains. A high sodium/potassium ratio is also a tendency for mental excitation. A ratio that persists between 3 and 6 suggests a forward-looking person. A ratio greater than 6:1 suggests aggressiveness and anger. ANGER Most often, those with an elevated sodium/potassium ratio have excessive anger. Anger is an acute emotion, the projection of fear onto others to avoid feeling fear. One does not diagnose anger from a hair mineral analysis However, the presence of anger as a factor in health and disease can often be discerned and is helpful for the practitioner and the patient to knowabout. Elevated or hidden iron or copper toxicity are other indicators for anger on a hair mineral analysis. SYMPATHETIC DOMINANCE A hair sodium/potassium ratio above about 6 or 7 is also an indicator of a sympathetic dominant personality type. These are individuals who overuse the sympathetic or fight-or-flight nervous system. They are usually very active, either mentally, physically or both. The tendency is extreme when the ratio is above about 12. One may overexercise, worry a lot or in some other way keep oneself in a fight-or-flight mode. Note that the body is often exhausted from this tendency, and may go into a parasympathetic state of slow oxidation. However, the mind often remains in a sympathetic dominant mode, which impairs recovery of health. HIDDEN COPPER, MERCURY AND CADMIUM TOXICITY A high sodium/potassium ratio may reflect hidden copper toxicity, especially in the slow oxidizer. This is because copper elevates sodium and depresses potassium readings. The copper may be present even if the hair copper level is low or normal. Hidden copper toxicity is certain if the potassium level is less than 4 mg%, or if the calcium level is over about 80 mg%. Cadmium and mercury toxicity can also elevate sodium levels and can cause a high sodium/potassium ratio. This is true even if the cadmium or mercury are hidden within body tissues and not revealed on the hair test. As cadmium, copper or mercury are eliminated, a retest mineral analysis will reveal an improved sodium/potassium ratio. An exception is if a retest is performed during a toxic metal elimination. The sodium/potassium ratio may temporarily rise as cadmium, for example, is being eliminated. This occurs because cadmium passes out of the body through the kidneys. As it is eliminated, cadmium irritates the kidneys. This may cause the sodium/potassium ratio to rise further. The ratio will normalize when the metal elimination is complete. ZINC AND MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY A high sodium/potassium ratio often indicates a zinc and/or magnesium deficiency. Zinc lowers sodium and raises the potassium level. Zinc deficiency is very common today. Magnesium also has a lowering effect upon sodium, and is deficient in many diets today. We recommend supplementing with zinc, or a product containing zinc, when the sodium/potassium ratio is elevated. Magnesium or Paramin may also be very helpful to correct the ratio. THE HILL PATTERN A sodium/potassium ratio greater than 4, in combination with a calcium/magnesium ratio less than 6, is called a hill pattern. The calcium, magnesium, sodium and potassium levels on a graph appear in the shape of a hill. In our experience, this is an indicator that one is moving ahead or changing for the better. The low calcium/magnesium ratio indicates a lack of defensiveness. The high sodium/potassium ratio indicates moving forward. Hair must not be washed at the laboratory for accurate sodium and potassium readings. SALT-EATING AND THE SODIUM/POTASSIUM RATIO Many people assume that a high sodium/potassium ratio indicates an excessive salt intake. While possibly true, in many instances salt eating has little impact upon the sodium/potassium ratio. A high ratio frequently occurs in people who consume no salt whatsoever! The main causes of a high sodium/potassium ratio are excessive aldosterone secretion due to stress or anger, toxic metals or a zinc and magnesium deficiency. Salt-eating plays a secondary role. We recommend everyone avoid table salt, which is a very poor quality food. One may have sea salt or unrefined salt, which contains more magnesium and trace elements. We recommend limiting salt slightly when the sodium/potassium ratio is above 12, especially if blood pressure is elevated However, it is not usually necessary to eliminate all salt from the diet. Also, sea salt is often tolerated much better than table salt. KIDNEY STRESS AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM A very high sodium/potassium ratio may indicate kidney stress, and an imbalanced immune system. While a low sodium/potassium ratio is associated with a weak immune system, a high ratio may indicate autoimmune problems, or an overactive immune system. 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Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems.... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Well, tell me, can you look the parents of Terry in the eyes and say the same thing? Terry is seven years old and stays alive with the help of a respirator and 24-hour nursing care. He can move his eyes and mouth but he can't move his head. Terry was left paralyzed by vaccine strain polio after swallowing live oral polio vaccine at nine weeks of age. Or how about ? Eight year old cannot sit without support or cannot walk without braces and a walker. Most of the time she sits in her wheelchair. was left paralyzed after she was injected with MMR (measles mumps, rubella) vaccine at 15 months of age. Or how about Richie? Richie was a thriving two month old baby boy, the second son born to a family in upstate New York when he got his first DPT shot in the winter of 1983. Richie's older brother had had severe reactions to his DPT shots, including high fevers, redness and swelling at the site of the injection, uncontrollable screaming, diarrhea and vomiting but the pediatrician had reassured Richie's Mom that these were " normal " reactions to DPT vaccine and not to worry. So Richie's Mom, who was a nurse, was prepared for Richie to be uncomfortable following his first DPT shot. By the evening of the day Richie got his first DPT shot, the area around the site of the injection began to swell. Richie's Mom remembered how Richie's brother's leg had swelled up after his DPT shots. But then Richie's hip turned red and purple and soon the purple started to spread out from the injection site in round patches. Still, Richie didn't have a fever and continued to drink from his bottle so Richie's Mom didn't worry. In the middle of the night, Richie woke up crying, then went back to sleep. But in the morning he woke up screaming " like a cat in pain. " Richie's Mom thought his hip was bothering him. After a brief nap Richie woke up crying again but his cry was weaker. After taking a bottle, he fell back to sleep. An hour later he had severe diarrhea with gas and mucous in his diapers. Then he fell asleep again until he again woke up crying. This time when Richie's Mom went to pick him up, she found him soaked through two receiving blankets with a musty, pungent odor. While she washed him, she noticed he was limp and staring at her with " dark eyes. " Instead of having a fever, he felt cool with ice cold hands. Thankful that her baby didn't have a fever, she didn’t worry. She thought the house might be too cold and dressed him warmly, putting socks on his little hands. Richie slowly drank eight ounces of water from his bottle and later that day had three more diapers with diarrhea in them. His leg still seemed to be sore. When he slept, his fingers twitched slightly. Later he gagged on the nipple of his bottle and vomited a little. Richie's Mom remembered how Richie's brother had had diarrhea and vomiting after his shots and so she didn't worry. That evening while Richie's Mom was giving him a bottle, suddenly he stopped sucking. Then he started to sigh. Alarmed, she called the doctor and described the symptoms and asked him to meet them at the emergency room. The doctor told her it wasn’t necessary for him to meet her at the emergency room. The doctor didn’t seem worried. Within minutes, Richie died in his mother's arms as his father and six year old brother watched. It had been 33 hours since a doctor had injected him with his first DPT shot. Maybe you could say this to ' parents was given a hepatitis B shot at his regular check up at the pediatrician's office on the 13th day of his life. That night when I got home from work, I noticed that was crying a lot more than usual. In fact, he was screaming some of the time. He was acting differently, but because we had just taken him to the doctor for a checkup and they told us he was a big healthy boy, we thought everything was OK. When he was just acting fussy, like babies sometimes do, we didn't know anything about vaccines or that they can cause problems for some babies. cried on and off for most of the night. When I got up and went to work the next day, he was still crying on and off. He continued during most of the day and into the evening. The next morning, his mother found him dead in his crib. From the way he looked, he had been dead for several hours. " Sure these are extreme cases, but why take the chance? Could you look into the faces of Holly Pete or MacArthy (who recently spoke out on Oprah about Their kids becoming autistic shortly after being vaccinated) and tell them that a study is more valid than their intuition? Although I respect your education, I cannot respect the fact that you believe these vaccinations are harmless. P.S. Who funded the large study that came out in May? Crystal -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. 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Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 This is one of the thing I do not understand. Can anyone explain it to me? Thanks, > The female-to-male ratio is 20:1. The disease is most common in middle > aged women, but it can affect all age groups, including children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Yes, I have to agree...no coincidence, in my opinion...especially after I was given all of my vaccines, I started having major muscle spasms in my neck and back...then on my next series,I passed out...I have since been told that it is a miracle that I lived...then, guess what, medical discharge...now autoimmune... Here is a listing of my vaccines: Jul 22, 1991: Tetanus-Diptheria Toxoid: 0.5 cc Jul 22, 1991: Oral Poliovirus Vaccine: 0.5 cc Jul 22, 1991: Influenza Vaccine: 0.5 cc Jul 22, 1991: Mening GP Vaccine: 0.5 cc Jul 22, 1991: Adneo Virus: 4 & 7 tabs Jul 22, 1991: Rubella: 0.5 cc Jul 22, 1991: Rubeola 0.5 cc Jul 24, 1991: Monovacc Testing Negative (tuberculosis) Jul 9, 1995: Yellow Fever Vaccine: batch 4L51171 Jul 9, 1995: Typohid Vaccine: 0.5 cc Jul 9, 1995: Tetanus-Diphtheria Toxoids: 0.5 cc Jul 9, 1995: Oral Poliovirus Vaccine: 2ggts or 2qqts, I can't tell Jul 9, 1995: MGC: 0.5 Jul 9, 1995: Gamma Glouben: 2.5 cc Jul 9, 1995: Hep B 1: 1 cc Jul 9, 1995: PP8 .1cc Route: LFA Aug 8, 1995: Hep B 2: 1 cc Feb 1998: Rhogam shot for miscarriage Sept 2003 Rhogam shot post delivery 1996: Undifferentiated Connective Tissue Disease 1999 I was diagnosed with Thyroid problems, major gastro-intestional issues, depression, and other crazy things... Crystal <sweetnwright@...> wrote: Well, tell me, can you look the parents of Terry in the eyes and say the same thing? Terry is seven years old and stays alive with the help of a respirator and 24-hour nursing care. He can move his eyes and mouth but he can't move his head. Terry was left paralyzed by vaccine strain polio after swallowing live oral polio vaccine at nine weeks of age. Or how about ? Eight year old cannot sit without support or cannot walk without braces and a walker. Most of the time she sits in her wheelchair. was left paralyzed after she was injected with MMR (measles mumps, rubella) vaccine at 15 months of age. Or how about Richie? Richie was a thriving two month old baby boy, the second son born to a family in upstate New York when he got his first DPT shot in the winter of 1983. Richie's older brother had had severe reactions to his DPT shots, including high fevers, redness and swelling at the site of the injection, uncontrollable screaming, diarrhea and vomiting but the pediatrician had reassured Richie's Mom that these were " normal " reactions to DPT vaccine and not to worry. So Richie's Mom, who was a nurse, was prepared for Richie to be uncomfortable following his first DPT shot. By the evening of the day Richie got his first DPT shot, the area around the site of the injection began to swell. Richie's Mom remembered how Richie's brother's leg had swelled up after his DPT shots. But then Richie's hip turned red and purple and soon the purple started to spread out from the injection site in round patches. Still, Richie didn't have a fever and continued to drink from his bottle so Richie's Mom didn't worry. In the middle of the night, Richie woke up crying, then went back to sleep. But in the morning he woke up screaming " like a cat in pain. " Richie's Mom thought his hip was bothering him. After a brief nap Richie woke up crying again but his cry was weaker. After taking a bottle, he fell back to sleep. An hour later he had severe diarrhea with gas and mucous in his diapers. Then he fell asleep again until he again woke up crying. This time when Richie's Mom went to pick him up, she found him soaked through two receiving blankets with a musty, pungent odor. While she washed him, she noticed he was limp and staring at her with " dark eyes. " Instead of having a fever, he felt cool with ice cold hands. Thankful that her baby didn't have a fever, she didn’t worry. She thought the house might be too cold and dressed him warmly, putting socks on his little hands. Richie slowly drank eight ounces of water from his bottle and later that day had three more diapers with diarrhea in them. His leg still seemed to be sore. When he slept, his fingers twitched slightly. Later he gagged on the nipple of his bottle and vomited a little. Richie's Mom remembered how Richie's brother had had diarrhea and vomiting after his shots and so she didn't worry. That evening while Richie's Mom was giving him a bottle, suddenly he stopped sucking. Then he started to sigh. Alarmed, she called the doctor and described the symptoms and asked him to meet them at the emergency room. The doctor told her it wasn’t necessary for him to meet her at the emergency room. The doctor didn’t seem worried. Within minutes, Richie died in his mother's arms as his father and six year old brother watched. It had been 33 hours since a doctor had injected him with his first DPT shot. Maybe you could say this to ' parents was given a hepatitis B shot at his regular check up at the pediatrician's office on the 13th day of his life. That night when I got home from work, I noticed that was crying a lot more than usual. In fact, he was screaming some of the time. He was acting differently, but because we had just taken him to the doctor for a checkup and they told us he was a big healthy boy, we thought everything was OK. When he was just acting fussy, like babies sometimes do, we didn't know anything about vaccines or that they can cause problems for some babies. cried on and off for most of the night. When I got up and went to work the next day, he was still crying on and off. He continued during most of the day and into the evening. The next morning, his mother found him dead in his crib. From the way he looked, he had been dead for several hours. " Sure these are extreme cases, but why take the chance? Could you look into the faces of Holly Pete or MacArthy (who recently spoke out on Oprah about Their kids becoming autistic shortly after being vaccinated) and tell them that a study is more valid than their intuition? Although I respect your education, I cannot respect the fact that you believe these vaccinations are harmless. P.S. Who funded the large study that came out in May? Crystal -- Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. 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Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 It seems like things can go wrong either way though. My Grandma had polio and both her and my dad were really adiment about me getting atleast my polio vaccine when I was born. On one side the vaccinations can kill you, but not getting them can kill you too. And that sums up the world we live in ... nothing you do can guarantee and easier ride. Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Crystal, There is a listserv that you can join called PRO-MED. Most of the messages posted are by the people out in the field, dealing with infectious diseases around the world. It would give you something of an idea about what people face when they have no immunizations and poor living conditions. There is risk in everything. I don't have statistics...but have read many articles about the spread of illness before vaccinations were made available. That's little consolation if you are one of those affected by adverse events...but there is usually a risk/benefit ratio done regarding the use of vaccinations. Best thoughts, Chuck B wrote: >Crystal, > >You wrote: > > >>The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems.... >> >> > >You may have missed the large study that came out in May: > >http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi , I appreciate your willingness to share this information with us. I read that diseases were already starting to decline significally because of better hygiene, and then vaccines were introduced. So, what I read showed the decline of diseases, and then the vaccines were introduced, and now people are saying, " oh look, it was vaccines that saved us " when in actuallity, the diseases were already being cured before the vaccines... Also, I talked with a teacher here in Sacramento, and she said that there is a massive breakout of chicken pox with the children who were given the chickenpox vaccine...how do you reason this? Blessings, Hugo <seashell@...> wrote: Crystal, There is a listserv that you can join called PRO-MED. Most of the messages posted are by the people out in the field, dealing with infectious diseases around the world. It would give you something of an idea about what people face when they have no immunizations and poor living conditions. There is risk in everything. I don't have statistics...but have read many articles about the spread of illness before vaccinations were made available. That's little consolation if you are one of those affected by adverse events...but there is usually a risk/benefit ratio done regarding the use of vaccinations. Best thoughts, Chuck B wrote: >Crystal, > >You wrote: > > >>The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems.... >> >> > >You may have missed the large study that came out in May: > >http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi , I agree with what you are saying about hygiene...thoguh from the reading I've done it appears that vaccinations also play a role. I haven't read about the chicken pox outbreak...will look for info about it. I don't think that vaccinations can totally prevent problems. I don't think science knows enough yet to have the very best answers...but out-of-control epidemics can also do a terrific amount of damage. In many ways, no matter how hard we try to control our lives and avoid problems...life can be a crap shoot. I had rubella at the end of the first trimester of my first pregnancy. My son was born profoundly deaf. That has certainly influenced how I look at vaccinations. It hasn't blinded me to the fact that vaccinations aren't a perfect answer. Do you believe that all vaccinations should be stopped? Best thoughts, and Irwin wrote: >Hi , > I appreciate your willingness to share this information with us. I read that diseases were already starting to decline significally because of better hygiene, and then vaccines were introduced. So, what I read showed the decline of diseases, and then the vaccines were introduced, and now people are saying, " oh look, it was vaccines that saved us " when in actuallity, the diseases were already being cured before the vaccines... > > Also, I talked with a teacher here in Sacramento, and she said that there is a massive breakout of chicken pox with the children who were given the chickenpox vaccine...how do you reason this? > > Blessings, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi , I know what you are saying, but I believe I read that the only reported cases of polio in the US in 2007 if from kids who got the vaccine? I may be wrong...though...I will look more into this. Blessings, bear339@... wrote: It seems like things can go wrong either way though. My Grandma had polio and both her and my dad were really adiment about me getting atleast my polio vaccine when I was born. On one side the vaccinations can kill you, but not getting them can kill you too. And that sums up the world we live in ... nothing you do can guarantee and easier ride. Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I think the vaccines do a lot of good, but they shouldn't have substances in them that are toxic like thimerisone. Also, I don't think they should be giving multiple vaccines at the same time to babies. Their little bodies are too small to handle the load. If the doctors weren't trying to pad their pockets, they could just as well wait till the child was three or four, and larger with more weight to give them shots, and even then, I am against multiples at the same time. That's just my opinion. Ron Re: Possible Cause for Hashimoto's Hypothyroid Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape .com/viewarticle /556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 the residents of the group home just got their flu shots. I asked the doc if the shots had thimerosol and she said yes. I have zero faith in allopathic medicine. How can we blindly follow the pied piper right over a cliff when our children are getting sicker and sicker? Have you seen the latest stats on autism? love Gracia Crystal, You wrote: > > The evidence is not weak at all that vaccinations cause health problems.... You may have missed the large study that came out in May: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/556738 that confirmed previous studies. Although the government has paid about 2,000 claims against vaccines from over 7,000 filed, these have only been for side effects documented immediately after the vaccine. No claims for autism have been accepted. Whether any of these claims were valid is still in dispute. The NIH arranged for the payments since about 70 children died of whooping cough after parents refused the vaccine. They also removed the suspect thimerosal from all vaccines in 2002. Curiously in the U.K. there are legal proceedings against three doctors for publishing unsupported alarmist claims about vaccines. They could well lose their medical licenses. I love you too. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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