Re: GB/Liver cleanse

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<< I really tried to

do the whole thing 3 times. I just couldn't get the last down.

>>

Susie, congratulations on your cleanse. Am I understanding this right. You

took the oil concoction 3 times?

You sure are brave. That stuff is nasty.

Please tell me what this fiberblend is you are taking. I am not having much

luck with Dr Schulz's cleanse.

Thanks

Christel

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In a message dated 3/26/2001 11:05:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tishri7@... writes:

I went exactly by Dr. 's instructions, except on the Epsom Salts mixture, I mix 4 tablespoons per 4 cups of water.

Do you drink this mixture?

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This was your 5 th cleanse. What happened with the other cleanses. Did you

pass stones or just sludge.

thanks

ken

GB/Liver cleanse

> Hello, all,

> I know this is for the bowel cleanse, which the GB/Liver cleanse is so much

a

> part of the other. It's all connected. Let's keep in mind that I've been

> taking AIM Herbal Fiberblend. I didn't think that it was doing much, but

the

> last two cleanses has been pretty good, indeed.

>

> I've been pretty weak all day long, glad my hubby was here this morning to

> give me apple juice. Actually, it was 12 noon when he gave me apple

juice,

> otherwise I was too weak to get out of bed. No joke! I started my

cleanse

> last night after a couple of weeks of organic apple juice and eating

healthy.

> About 4 days ago it started feeling like my GB was getting too full. I

> suppose some of y'all have had the same feeling. Well, on Friday, I ate

> something wrong, I guess, but I had a minor GB attack Friday night and

didn't

> get any sleep all night long. See, I keep the Sabbath and was wanting to

> study preparing for Passover. Well, finally got to sleep at about 6:30

Sat.

> morning. Got to study, though.

>

> So I decided to do the cleanse as quickly as I could because of the

pressure

> that I was feeling in my GB. So I followed all the instructions as usual

> (this is my 5th cleanse). However, I did a few different things. Here is

> what I did below:

> I went exactly by Dr. 's instructions, except on the Epsom Salts

> mixture, I mix 4 tablespoons per 4 cups of water. My nurse friend said be

> careful with this stuff. You can upset your electrolite balance really

easy.

> So I add a little more water. Works fine.

> Next, I add 1/4 organic apple juice to my grapefruit/olive oil mixture.

>

> Next, I put a heating pad on high heat under my upper back where it hurts.

I

> tried it this time. The reason that I did it this way because I had a

friend

> who had GB surgery years ago, and she had no pain in the front of her

body,

> only in her back, and she had emergency surgery. Seems like she had a

> blockage in the back area that was affecting her liver. A stone got stuck

or

> something. So I thought maybe the heat opens something up to pass better.

> Oh, I'm excited. Let me go on.

>

> Next thing I did different, I drank another portion of the mixture, but

this

> time mixing up on 1/4 cup of Olive oil and grapefruit, 1/4 cup of apple

> juice. I drank this laying on my right side.

>

> Then after that, I actually started physically feeling like I was going to

> puke up olive oil, I still drank as much as I could of the previous

mixture.

> I just couldn't drink it all. I was burping the olive oil. I really tried

to

> do the whole thing 3 times. I just couldn't get the last down.

>

> so I laid back again on my back as in the beginning. I went to sleep very

> well, didn't toss and turn as usual.

>

> In the morning about 6:10, I drank my dose of that nasty Epsom salts. I

find

> it's easier to drink warm for some reason. About 8:00 I got up and

pooped

> big time!!!

>

> Oh, y'all wouldn't believe that first poop. It was totally packed in the

> potty, and I mean packed with the sludge stuff. There was one piece of

> sludge that was almost one solid piece and was very big. I guess all this

> happened from the large drinking of organic apple juice. I've done this

> cleanse several times, and this was the best by any means. Who knows why

it

> was so good? Could it be the Herbal Fiberblend? Heck if I know. Maybe

it

> was the apple juice which I do every time, but I just went longer this

time.

> Maybe it was the extra doses of the olive oil, because the olive oil is

> supposed to press those suckers into mush. I don't know. The heat on my

> back felt wonderful doing the cleanse, so maybe that will help some of us.

> You might try it.

>

> Before I end this post, I do want to tell all of you to keep drinking your

> water. Drink it all day sipping on it like Dr. Cabot says. I'm

> trying to follow her diet, and it's a good one! She knows her stuff. And

> water is the best detox of anything you can do for yourself. She says to

sip

> all day like a plant that needs water, it perks it up.

>

> Another thing, I can't believe that I'm telling y'all that I wish you

could

> have seen my poop, isn't that stupid? But it was unreal that stuff that

came

> out of me in the way of sludge. I guess many of y'all have had the same

> thing. Thing is, after doing this cleanse many times and you pass just

water

> on the night of your cleanse, then you drink the olive oil and grapefruit

> mixture, then the next morning you pass this mess, it's just unreal, and

you

> can also tell it's just not olive oil. I'm thinking that if this is in me

> and it's so gross, maybe most peopel in the world need to know that they

need

> to do this. Oh, it's so gross! NASTY!

>

> Take care & Yahweh bless,

> Susie

>

>

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Dear Susie,

What do you mean by sludge? Was it black?

In Him,

Marsha <>{

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In a message dated 03/27/2001 12:00:57 AM Central Standard Time,

Christelti@... writes:

<< Susie, congratulations on your cleanse. Am I understanding this right. You

took the oil concoction 3 times?

You sure are brave. That stuff is nasty.

Please tell me what this fiberblend is you are taking. I am not having much

luck with Dr Schulz's cleanse.

Thanks

Christel >>

*****************************************

Hi, Christel & everyone,

Yes, I took the olive oil/grapefruit mixture almost 3 times. I had read the

more olive oil that you do, the better the cleanse works. I tend to believe

it. My last cleanse I took the mixture 2 times and it worked good. And I

say " almost 3 times " because I simply couldn't get all the last of the

mixture down without getting a very strong " hurl " feeling.

I take AIM Herbal Fiberblend. I didn't really think that it was working but

guess it is. I do know that the organic apple juice is important and the

more the merrier on that. Dr. Cabot says to drink 1 quart per day for 5 days

and about 12 glasses of water. I always drink the apple juice longer than

that. And I also use it to drink down that nasty Herbal Fiberblend.

One other thing that I did, I first laid on my back as Dr. says. The

2nd dose I laid on my right side for 20 minutes. The 3rd time on my back

again. Maybe that helped.

Take care,

Susie

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In a message dated 03/27/2001 12:51:37 AM Central Standard Time,

AtlantaSistah@... writes:

<< I went exactly by Dr. 's instructions, except on the Epsom Salts

> mixture, I mix 4 tablespoons per 4 cups of water.

Do you drink this mixture?

*****************************************

,

Yes, I drink it. A friend of mine who is a R/N had previously warned me

about Epsom Salts, saying that it can be dangerous seriously upsetting your

electrolyte balance. That's why they don't use it much anymore. However, I

should be okay if I load up on water during the week. She also said to add a

little more water to the recipe. That should do it.

So I drink 1 cup at a time instead of 3/4 cup at a time. I know it's not

much extra but it's a little. Those of us who have done this cleanse know

that we lose a bunch of water. I can really feel it by the next morning

after a couple of BMs.

For those people who are a little nervous about doing the Epsom Salts, Dr.

Cabot has an alternate recipe that is similar to Dr. s. She does stress

that during the week before the cleanse, which is:

1. drink your organic apple juice 5 days

2. eat mainly raw fruits, raw veggies and no dairy products, red meat or

chicken

3. on the 6th day, skip dinner and at 6 p.m. take a tablespoonful of Epsom

Salts with 3 glasses of water. Repeat at 8 p.m.

4. the rest you follow the same way, but she doesn't add the extra Epsom

Salts the next day. I suppose you could.

Take care,

Susie

[Guest guest]

<< This was your 5 th cleanse. What happened with the other cleanses. Did

you

pass stones or just sludge.

thanks

ken >>

*****************************************************

Ken,

Well, my first cleanse (boy, was I scared) wasn't all that great. I didn't

really pass much of anything. The 2nd one was very good; 3rd not too good;

4th and 5th, great! The 5th one was the best so far. The sludge is

extremely important to get out of us. I know that many of those stones break

up because of the organic apple juice and from my understanding, the olive

oil has an acid in it that breaks those stones up. Between the olive oil and

the citrus, this is one reason you can have an acid stomach the next day.

I've passed both the green blob things, yellowish/tan things, and a huge

amount of sludge. I've been tempted to catch this stuff but haven't.

I do want to say that this is really my 6th cleanse, if I count the one I did

back in July. I had a friend tell me how to do his cleanse over the phone,

but I didn't follow his pre-cleanse diet of not eating much all week and

drinking organic apple juice and fasting the day of the cleanse from noon on.

I was in horrible pain the next morning, thought I was dying I hurt so bad.

My husband had to run over to my sister-in-law's house and get some pain

pills. See, she's a nurse. After that, I finally eased up and he gave me an

enema because I couldn't poop at all. So he gave me a high enema. Well, I

passed tons of dark green and light green blobs. The recipe that my friend

gave me didn't use Epsom Salts. But I surely didn't follow the instructions.

Boy, I know how important the instructions are now, believe me.

The next few months I went on Dr. Cabot's diet for a healthy liver. She has

the best diet out, I believe. I'm still semi on it. There is an eight-week

plan and her basic for healthy living. Thing is, we had been out of town in

early Dec., and we were late getting home. So we stopped at Jack-in-the-Box

and tried to find something healthy to eat. I ate a grilled chicken sandwich

and it was nasty. Couldn't eat it all. I woke up at 2:00 a.m. in horrible

pain. Nothing would make the pain go away. I couldn't lay on my back, it

hurt; couldn't lay on my side, it hurt, nothing. So at about 6:00 a.m. I

went to the emergency room. They gave me two shots of demoral and I had a

sonogram showing that I had an enlarged GB with stones. One doctor tried to

talk me into staying and having surgery and just about called me stupid for

leaving. He said no amount of healthy eating is going to help you at all.

Y'all know how doctors are, most of them.

Well, I call that sandwich my $1,000 sandwich because of the ER bill. In one

of Dr. Cabot's books she stresses that you must get these gallstones out.

It's a must because it's just very unsafe leaving them in there. Some can

cause cancer after a long period of time just sitting in there. And yes,

some people must have the surgery because the cleanse doesn't work good for

them, but it's best not to have the surgery if you can help it. In her years

of experience in dealing with people who have had GB surgery, they have fatty

liver problems, terrible digestive problems, etc.

Sorry, didn't mean to make this so long. Did I answer your question, Ken?

Take care,

Susie

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In a message dated 03/27/2001 10:49:01 AM Central Standard Time,

prov1126@... writes:

<< What do you mean by sludge? Was it black? >>

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Hi, Marsha,

No, the sludge must be broken up stones. I believe that I've read that in

several places. It's tannish color. I did have some very light green blobs

this time mixed in with it. It's nasty-looking stuff. I also had a few

light green stone-looking things. Some were a mixure of yellowish tan and

that light green.

When you see that sludge, if you pass it when doing the cleanse, you'll know

what I'm talking about. And this time I was very full of sludge. There was

one piece that was huge. At first I thought it was one solid piece, but it

broke up.

I must tell all of y'all I'm going to be drinking loads of lemon water this

time. I'm very, very sore. I've been told the lemon water helps the

inflamation.

bye,

Susie

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<< Dr. Cabot's diet for a healthy liver >>

Susie, where can this be found? And what is this fiberblend you are taking?

Christel

[Guest guest]

Dr. Cabot's diet for a healthy liver >>

Susie, where can this be found? And what is this fiberblend you are taking?

Christel >>

________________________

Hi, Christel,

You can go to liverdoctor.com. That's one of Dr. Cabot's websites. The name

of the book is called " The Liver Cleansing Diet. " She has another good book

entitled " The Healthy Liver & Bowel Book. " But the Liver cleansing diet is

the one that explains her diet.

She's a medical doctor, plus she's a naturpathic doctor. I think she kind of

got sick of the narrow-minded medical doctors and all. But she's done lots

of research into metabolic diseases and liver diseases.

And Dr. Cabot has lots of good products that she sells, too. I'm using her

liver tonic called Livatone. You don't have to order products from Australia

either. That's where she's from, but she does come to the U.S. and do

seminars and stuff. There is a place in Arizona that you can order from.

The place is: SCB International, Inc., THD Inc., PO Box 5070, Glendale, Az.

85312-5070, 888-75-LIVER, Toll free, and 623-334-3232. E-mail address:

usaorders@....

Now, AIM Herbal Fiberblend. I sell the stuff, but you can order it from

http://www.theaimcompanies.com/us/

I haven't really gotten started good on my selling the Barleygreen and

different products, but I'm set up to sell it. However, you can buy it from

any AIM distributor or directly from the main site, I believe. I must warn

you, it's very nasty tasting. I mix it with organic apple juice and

chug-a-lug as quickly as I can. There are different flavors. I bought the

raspberry flavor.

Hope this helps.

Take care,

Susie

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Dear Susie,

I find the lemon Fibreblend more palatable--that raspberry stuff is

nasty! I had a friend tell me that the lemon tastes just like lemon tea.

That's quite a stretch, but it is an improvement over the raspberry (and I

really like raspberries!).

Anyway, congratulations on the success of your latest cleanse!! Did you

lose a few pounds, too? I remember Karma's remarkable story of losing--was

it 35 pounds?!!

Thanks for sharing.

In Him,

Marsha <>{

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<< Anyway, congratulations on the success of your latest cleanse!! Did you

lose a few pounds, too? I remember Karma's remarkable story of losing--was

it 35 pounds?!! >>

***************************

Hello, Marsha,

Oh, my! I wish!!!! That would be wonderful. I don't think that I lost

anything, though, just a bunch of junk. I'm glad to get it out of me. When

I think of all the years that I didn't eat right, no telling how much junk is

in there. Gross!

Thanks for the tip on the Fiberblend. I think I'll try it next time. It's

all I can do to get it down. I have little mental tricks to get it down

quickly. Seems like if I think about it when I drink it, it's worse. The

organic apple juice really does make it better. Thing is, I didn't think it

was doing anything, but I guess it does help afterall. Maybe it's all the

combination of things.

Well, take care and thanks again.

Susie

[Guest guest]

<< 'm curious, Did you also eat during the 5 days prior to the

liver/gallbladder cleanse. You said you drank 1 quart of apple juice per

day prior to the cleanse.

Thanks,

gail

******************************

Hi, Gail,

Yes, I do eat. I try to follow that part of Dr. Cabot's recipe if I can.

Sometimes I do have chicken and cooked veggies. I try to have fish a couple

of nights a week, but I do this normally. I can't handle dairy very well

anymore. I used to be a big cheese lover, but that's probably why I'm in the

shape I'm in now. One thing about not having dairy, I no longer have any

kind of sinus trouble. Before, I had lots of mucos, constantly. Now I'm

free of that. I also have carrot/celery juice most every morning. First

thing upon awakening, I have a glass of citrus water, lemon or lime. Dr.

Cabot says it starts your system to working and cleanse your liver. Then I

juice my carrots and stuff. Sometimes I add several garlic cloves to it,

sometimes beets, sometimes I have just apple/carrot/celery.

Then every once in a while I have cereal with several scoops of LSA in it.

LSA is in Dr. Cabot's book. It's wonderful for you and has lots of fiber.

You grind it in a coffee grinder and keep it in the fridge in a dark

container.

The mixture is:

1 cup almonds

2 cups sunflower seeds

3 cups flaxseeds (also called linseeds)

You grind it all up and mix it together. Use all raw nuts and stuff.

Now, since I'm a bit sore from the GB cleanse, I didn't do that this morning.

I just had my lime water and 1 glass of apple juice with liver tonic in it.

You can cut that mixture in half, if you wish. That makes up a ton. I have

a certain container that I keep in it, so I have to cut it in half.

Hope this helps!

Take care,

Susie

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susie,

I'm curious, Did you also eat during the 5 days prior to the

liver/gallbladder cleanse. You said you drank 1 quart of apple juice per

day prior to the cleanse.

Thanks,

gail

>From: Tishri7@...

>Reply-bowel cleanse

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>Subject: Re: GB/Liver cleanse

>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:53:50 EST

>

>In a message dated 03/27/2001 12:00:57 AM Central Standard Time,

>Christelti@... writes:

>

><< Susie, congratulations on your cleanse. Am I understanding this right.

>You

> took the oil concoction 3 times?

> You sure are brave. That stuff is nasty.

> Please tell me what this fiberblend is you are taking. I am not having

>much

> luck with Dr Schulz's cleanse.

> Thanks

> Christel >>

>*****************************************

>

>Hi, Christel & everyone,

>

>Yes, I took the olive oil/grapefruit mixture almost 3 times. I had read

>the

>more olive oil that you do, the better the cleanse works. I tend to

>believe

>it. My last cleanse I took the mixture 2 times and it worked good. And I

>say " almost 3 times " because I simply couldn't get all the last of the

>mixture down without getting a very strong " hurl " feeling.

>

>I take AIM Herbal Fiberblend. I didn't really think that it was working

>but

>guess it is. I do know that the organic apple juice is important and the

>more the merrier on that. Dr. Cabot says to drink 1 quart per day for 5

>days

>and about 12 glasses of water. I always drink the apple juice longer than

>that. And I also use it to drink down that nasty Herbal Fiberblend.

>

>One other thing that I did, I first laid on my back as Dr. says. The

>2nd dose I laid on my right side for 20 minutes. The 3rd time on my back

>again. Maybe that helped.

>

>Take care,

>Susie

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Dear Susie:

Thank you for answering my questions

Christel

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Hi, I'm sorry, but I don't know what to tell you. I'm glad

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list. There's lots of nice people, along with lots of good

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<< Thank you for answering my questions

Christel

*********************************

You're welcome, Christel...

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In a message dated 3/27/2001 12:49:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tishri7@... writes:

I've been tempted to catch this stuff but haven't.

LOL ..... please don't. Just flush! LOL .....

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<< LOL ..... please don't. Just flush! LOL .....

***************************

,

LOL! Well, haven't you seen the guy's gallstones that he caught and has on

the net?

If you haven't, here is the link: http://tg_site.tripod.com/

Oh, notice the color of them. That was the exact color of my sludge, which I

had loads of it.

bye,

Susie

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,

LOL! Well, haven't you seen the guy's gallstones that he caught and has on the net?

Yes I did. I was like ..... what is really going on ?? LOL ....

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Re: GB/Liver cleanse

Susie

thank you for sharing your successful cleanse. It sounds like your liver

and gall bladder passed a lot of green nasty stones as well as those tan one

too. Your digestion should greatly improve as well as other areas of your

health.

I have done 4 liver cleanses in the past year, and I too was surprised on

how many and how large the stones were.

Best of health.

Ken

> *****************************************************

> Ken,

> Well, my first cleanse (boy, was I scared) wasn't all that great. I

didn't

> really pass much of anything. The 2nd one was very good; 3rd not too

good;

> 4th and 5th, great! The 5th one was the best so far. The sludge is

> extremely important to get out of us. I know that many of those stones

break

> up because of the organic apple juice and from my understanding, the olive

> oil has an acid in it that breaks those stones up. Between the olive oil

and

> the citrus, this is one reason you can have an acid stomach the next day.

>

> I've passed both the green blob things, yellowish/tan things, and a huge

> amount of sludge. I've been tempted to catch this stuff but haven't.

>

> I do want to say that this is really my 6th cleanse, if I count the one I

did

> back in July. I had a friend tell me how to do his cleanse over the

phone,

> but I didn't follow his pre-cleanse diet of not eating much all week and

> drinking organic apple juice and fasting the day of the cleanse from noon

on.

> I was in horrible pain the next morning, thought I was dying I hurt so

bad.

> My husband had to run over to my sister-in-law's house and get some pain

> pills. See, she's a nurse. After that, I finally eased up and he gave me

an

> enema because I couldn't poop at all. So he gave me a high enema. Well,

I

> passed tons of dark green and light green blobs. The recipe that my

friend

> gave me didn't use Epsom Salts. But I surely didn't follow the

instructions.

> Boy, I know how important the instructions are now, believe me.

>

> The next few months I went on Dr. Cabot's diet for a healthy liver. She

has

> the best diet out, I believe. I'm still semi on it. There is an

eight-week

> plan and her basic for healthy living. Thing is, we had been out of town

in

> early Dec., and we were late getting home. So we stopped at

Jack-in-the-Box

> and tried to find something healthy to eat. I ate a grilled chicken

sandwich

> and it was nasty. Couldn't eat it all. I woke up at 2:00 a.m. in

horrible

> pain. Nothing would make the pain go away. I couldn't lay on my back, it

> hurt; couldn't lay on my side, it hurt, nothing. So at about 6:00 a.m. I

> went to the emergency room. They gave me two shots of demoral and I had a

> sonogram showing that I had an enlarged GB with stones. One doctor tried

to

> talk me into staying and having surgery and just about called me stupid

for

> leaving. He said no amount of healthy eating is going to help you at all.

> Y'all know how doctors are, most of them.

>

> Well, I call that sandwich my $1,000 sandwich because of the ER bill. In

one

> of Dr. Cabot's books she stresses that you must get these gallstones out.

> It's a must because it's just very unsafe leaving them in there. Some can

> cause cancer after a long period of time just sitting in there. And yes,

> some people must have the surgery because the cleanse doesn't work good

for

> them, but it's best not to have the surgery if you can help it. In her

years

> of experience in dealing with people who have had GB surgery, they have

fatty

> liver problems, terrible digestive problems, etc.

>

> Sorry, didn't mean to make this so long. Did I answer your question, Ken?

> Take care,

> Susie

>

>

> Subscription email:

> mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

>

[Guest guest]

<< thank you for sharing your successful cleanse. It sounds like your liver

and gall bladder passed a lot of green nasty stones as well as those tan one

too. Your digestion should greatly improve as well as other areas of your

health. >>

______________________________

Hi, Ken,

You're welcome! Yes, I feel better today, not as sore right now. I knew

that I passed so much this time cuz of how sore I was. But I'm much better.

I just feel that I have a ways to go. I'm thinking it may take 10 cleanses,

maybe more than that.

Take care,

Susie