Hi

[Guest guest]

yes april, they referred me to a GI specialist at their hospital but i asked to

be...i told my dr.s that were seeing me in the hospital that I wanted to pursue

interferon treatments. and thats when they arranged the referral nothing was

really recommeded at all. Sometimes it was confusing, i guess at times i was

thinking to clearly either, but i have heard that it will clear on its own. does

that mean you test hcv-? I'm a nurse and you would think i would know more

about this.....i know i've been exhausted and occasionally sick since i've been

home.

Aprilcupcake@... wrote: Was treatment recommended to you?

There are people who " clear " on their own following an acute episode.

Not everyone will develop a chronic problem.

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

yes april, they referred me to a GI specialist at their hospital but i asked to

be...i told my dr.s that were seeing me in the hospital that I wanted to pursue

interferon treatments. and thats when they arranged the referral nothing was

really recommeded at all. Sometimes it was confusing, i guess at times i was

thinking to clearly either, but i have heard that it will clear on its own. does

that mean you test hcv-? I'm a nurse and you would think i would know more

about this.....i know i've been exhausted and occasionally sick since i've been

home.

Aprilcupcake@... wrote: Was treatment recommended to you?

There are people who " clear " on their own following an acute episode.

Not everyone will develop a chronic problem.

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

yes april, they referred me to a GI specialist at their hospital but i asked to

be...i told my dr.s that were seeing me in the hospital that I wanted to pursue

interferon treatments. and thats when they arranged the referral nothing was

really recommeded at all. Sometimes it was confusing, i guess at times i was

thinking to clearly either, but i have heard that it will clear on its own. does

that mean you test hcv-? I'm a nurse and you would think i would know more

about this.....i know i've been exhausted and occasionally sick since i've been

home.

Aprilcupcake@... wrote: Was treatment recommended to you?

There are people who " clear " on their own following an acute episode.

Not everyone will develop a chronic problem.

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

[Guest guest]

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

[Guest guest]

I don't know if the flavoured Now whey isolate has sugar in it but

otherwise it shuold be fine.

Duncan

>

> hi ducan can i take the now brand of whey and is it called whey

> insolat chocolate. thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Pam,

so how do you feel these days? Does it still affect you the same way? Do you

still get so tired? If it weren't for my mom being here i would sleep all day.

and she's leaving thursday. but i can't sleep at night....i get night sweats

and weird dreams and i wake up every morning with a horrible headache. Stress

probably.

Pam <kazoo300@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

---------------------------------

Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

[Guest guest]

Hey Pam,

so how do you feel these days? Does it still affect you the same way? Do you

still get so tired? If it weren't for my mom being here i would sleep all day.

and she's leaving thursday. but i can't sleep at night....i get night sweats

and weird dreams and i wake up every morning with a horrible headache. Stress

probably.

Pam <kazoo300@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone i just joined and wanted to introduce myself, my name is

> keianne and i live in texas i was recently diagnosed (4-27-07) with

> hepatitis C after having an acute episode and spent 8 days in 2

> different hospitals. No insurance so i'm curious as to how much

> interferon costs and how the hep c has affected other peoples lives? I

> haven't been able to do very much, everything exhausts me. is this

> normal? i have heard it's different for everyone, but haven't talked

> to anyone....no support group. so...please let me hear from someone

> out there. and thanks in advance.

>

Hi Keianne

My name is Pam. I spent 5 days in the hospital last June with an acute

episode,and yes everything exhausted myself for quit awhile. All you

can do is rest and eat healthy. I had just about cleared it, but now

the Dr's told me it is going chronic.

All of You are in my Prayers as we fight this dragon

Pam

---------------------------------

Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.

Answers - Check it out.

[Guest guest]

Not for me, I get sick everytime I have it. I get much worse and have

to try to recover. Any alcohol for me is a no no now. I wouldn't

drink it personally, especially if you are in the early stages of

trying to cure candida. Just my opinion.

I dont know if this is coincidence or what, but i went through a beer

drink binge and was so ill from it I got glandular fever right after.

>All my yeast issues worsen significantly upon beer drinking or wine.

so is beer good to have thank you

>

[Guest guest]

Bill steer clear of potatoe chips. I tried them thinking they wouldn't

be so bad and had a complete relapse and had to start all over again.

You wont want to repeat this after taking so much time to begin

improving, it aint worth it. Make sure youre having plenty of healthy

fats to help fill you up and that means butter, fish oil (mercury free

brand like blue ice), lard, extra virgin olive oil, extra virgin

coconut oil. They help heal also alongside the general diet itself of

eggs, meat, vegetables (no high carb ones like potatoes though).

I dont know enough about inulin to make comments, so duncan can help

you there. But I would not rely on those things as a reason to get

loose on the diet.

> hi i have been on the diet for about 2 mouth. now thing in my gut

were

> filling better under my ribs on right side. it fills like a lump when

u

> push it it kind of moves and thats were my gut was hurting i eat

some

> potatos. and potatos chips now it all back again can i just take

inulin

> a selenium and not the whey it has suger in it . and does inulin and

> selenium. get red of this im not have good bowl movments.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi bill there is a lot of argument about that. Some say that diet

just isnt enough and others say diet alone can cure you.

I feel diet alone can allow the body to heal itself, given time and

patience and persistance and the addition of further nutrients oand

natural antifungals are an aid to that process but diet is the first

foundation.

The addition of helpful foods like garlic (food or supplement or

both), onions, butter, coconut oil, and nutrients like vitamin C, E,

B complex, zinc, magnesium, calcium, cod liver oil, etc all work in

to aid that process. If you wish to take an antifungal, garlic is

one! coconut oil is one! Oregano oil is a very strong one and it is

wise to do the diet for months before adding anything quite like

that, including acidophilus capsules.

Duncan's suggestions may also be a great help to you. I am not

familiar with them as Ive not tried inulin or whey at this point.

Extra selenium is also one that seems to help people further. You

will be the judge on how you feel also. But again, it's difficult

because so often people get worse before better and have NO idea if

they're reacting or actually healing!

So dont be put off by the " diet alone won't cure you " comment. only

the body can heal you and if it gets what it needs and you completely

disgard what hinders healing and reduction of candida like sugars,

grains, dairy, fruit, it can do it's job with the aid of some extras

also (mentioned above).

> thanks adam but what sould i be takeing to get reed of this i herd

> diet alone wont do it what eles can i take. besized diet.

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it's good but because it's not a health program you'd have to be

lucky that it is the single right missing ingredient. We do programs

because they work, and the whey is part of it because it performs

specific functions. Try l-cystine and alpha lipoic acid for increasing

glutathione instead of the whey.

Duncan

>

> ducan can i just take selenium and inulin and not take why the why

im

> seeing has suger in it. and will be good or not. thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill Budman -- can you please make a more accurate subject line?

Your transverse colon that you're pointing out is a likely place for

irritation, an ulcer or colitis; these are caused by bowel ecology and

corrected by correcting the ecology with inulin and high inulin foods.

More fiber such as inulin, psyllium, pectin and fibrous veggies plus

cvopious water and occasional dose of epsom salts will take care of

the constipation; the diarrhea will resolve as the irritation and

ecology is corrected. It takes about a month or two; maybe faster if

you're lucky. Happy tootin'!

Duncan

>

> hi ok 1 cystine & alpha lipoic acid and selenium and inulin ok. when

i

> get mad my gut under my right rib hurts again i used to have a ulcer

> long time ago can an ulcer be doing this all to me or do i have

> candidia. i have ulterning. diarrhoea & constipation. ok thank u.

duncan

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Just join in.

IN NC

david okello <orks77@...> wrote:

Hi,i joined the group today and would be happy to participate in future

discussions.Thanks

---------------------------------

It's here! Your new message!

Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar.

[Guest guest]

,

While I haven't quite had my revision yet, I still wanted to offer

you my point of view on your post. From what others have said, it

is normal to feel frustrated and depressed about yourself after this

surgery, so please know that you're not alone in your feelings. So

many people here completely understand what you're going through and

are here to listen to your concerns and try to help you.

I think that you have taken a few very brave steps in the right

direction to try to get a handle on your feelings, and you should be

proud of yourself for that. You've talked to your husband about it,

you've opened yourself up to the people on this group to talk about

it, and you've recognized the need for further help by deciding to

see a therapist.

I hope that as you continue in your recovery, you will see all of

these baby-steps in your healing, both physical and emotional, add

up to a beautiful, confident person.

Sleeping in bed for extended periods of time is definately not good,

unless you physically need the rest. You said that your

granddaughter brings you great joy - is there a way that you can

spend some more time with her? And do you have any friends or

family nearby that could come over and do something fun with you or

for you? Maybe paint your toenails, or rent a funny movie to watch

together, or go through old photo albums and reminisce? Or if there

is a task that is really bothering you that you'd like accomplished,

maybe you could ask (or hire someone) to do it for you - like

vaccuuming, or weeding a flower garden, or cleaning your bathroom?

I've been disabled and mostly homebound for the last 2 years from

multiple sclerosis, so I understand your frustration and depression

dealing with those types of limitations, and the feeling of being

trapped in a strange body that doesn't cooperate or belong to you.

I wish you the best, and hope that you find some help by seeing a

therapist. A big first step in getting control back in your life is

just by recognizing the NEED for that help - so congrats on taking

that first big step.

>

> Hi everyone, I want to first start off by saying Sorry to

everyone

> especially to Bonnie.Alot of you have been so wonderful to me and

I

> am sorry for not keeping in touch. Bonnie I do want to apoligize

for

> not calling back, first we lost your number my husband's cell

phone

> was lost and there went your phone number. Second I didn't have

the

> energy to get on the computer to email you.

>

> I have been suffering from severe depression.......I don't even no

> where to start/physically I am doing great, when I went for my 2

> month check-up he said everything looked great, He did lift some

> restrictions like driving, I can drive but small distances, I can

do

> light housework, but no vacummin or making beds ( I didn't know

this

> but those two things are the hardest on your back). I can start

> swimming and using a statinary bike. All and all he said I am

looking

> good still some swelling but in time he said that will go down.

> As for pain I don't have that much back pain tyneol usually takes

> care of the back pain if and when I have it.

> The only thing really bothering me is my left leg in the upper

thigh

> area to my knee it hurts bad, sometimes I can't even walk on it.

> I did have a fall so the doctor is not sure if that could have

been it

> I tripped over my dog and landed on both of my knees on hardwood

> floors.........ouch

>

> Anyways the reason I have not posted or done anything is I am

going

> thru some depression, its getting worse everyday. I have had some

> very bad thoughts, It seems like I prepared myself for the pain

but

> nothing for the emotional part. I feel like a changed person, and

I

> am not sure who I am anymore. I cry at everything. I feel like a

> stranger in my body, I am not sure how it works. I hate how I

feel, I

> hate having everybody do things for me. I went to the store the

other

> day and I dropped something on the floor and I had to ask a

stranger

> if they could pick it up for me. I sleep all the time the other

day I

> slept for 2 days straight.

>

> Well I had a talk with Ronnie and we both decided I need to go see

a

> therpist, I am currently on Cymbalta 60mg a day but that was

giving

> to me for pain (before surgery) my current back doctor said of

course

> he will not prescribe it for me I would have to go to my PCP. But

> instead what I am going to do is set up appointment to see a pysch

to

> see if that is the best medicine for me right now

> So I do feel better today now that I have a game plan I just hope

it

> works, because I don't think I can deal with this much longer, I

am

> losing myself........

>

> The only thing that has brought me joy is my beautiful

granddaughter

>

> Sorry this has been a long hello, thank you again everyone for

your

> well wishes. Bonnie can you email me your phone number that is of

> course if you still want to talk to me

>

> Thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

So many of us have thought of you, wondering what was up, and know we are so glad you shared this, and know we are here to support you. Post-op depression happens to a great deal of us. Adjustments to this new body sound easy, but for many of us it takes time, and yes, not only can it be frustrating but it can get you in a funk. A loss of independance during recovery is tough too, and add on any complications with family and friends and it feels overwhelming. So know we have been there, and we can help.

First, what med's you are on maybe need to be adjusted, so good you are seeing a therapist, recognising depression is the first step in helping yourself, good for you! I say print off what you just wrote to us and give it to the therapist, you voiced how you are feeling perfectly. Secondly, print something off about Flatback for the therapist, so they get the medical condition, and the surgery and recovery. I did this for my PCP when I changed, and he was truly grateful as he did know much about it. I 'm sure knowing just what your body went through, will help him/her understand what your mind is struggling with. Talking it out also has great benefits, and with both med's and therapy you'll find yourself in a better place.

This is a long recovery, and time can creep on, and sometimes it's hard to see progress even if it's there. I think it's been of benefit to Edie that she has wrote down her progress, when writing it she has been able to see just how far she's come. Feeling like you are in a body alien to you will come around. You will find moves to get around most of the drawbacks, but right now you are still healing so it feels like it will go on forever. I just had to keep telling myself, you are upright, yeah, you hurt a hell of a lot less, yeah, your shoulders look even, yeah, I can take a shower by myself, yeah, I can make my own breakfast, yeah, and on and on. Believe me you have a pretty good list going now, and each month that list will get bigger. Independance comes with the expanding list. The fact you are at that store, and shopping, means you are out in the world, and yes making progress. Let those around you pick-up something you drop, even a stranger, they are helping you sure, but you are also giving them a chance to help someone else. Know by my being here all these years after my surgery is my way of paying back all the good that was sent my way after my surgeries ( and I had three surgeries in two calendar years). I had just recovered from one, and the next one came along, so I was basically recovering for over two and a half years. What got me through it, one I NEEDED to be well, two I had terrific friends, three I had my kids and hubby, and four I had a terrific support team in my doc's and their staffs.

Right now getting that item off the floor is tough, so you have to ask someone, most people are glad to help. Right now you are helping people here in the group by voicing this stage in your recovery, somebody is feeling this way right now too but can't muster the words to express it, and you putting it out there will help not only you but them too. Thats the joys of this group, share and help, and help and warmth comes your way too. Right now your body has been through a huge trama, but it does get better, just takes time. Hang onto the good, and the tough stuff will get better, or you'll adjust to it.

First, hug that Grandbaby as often as possible, nothing but wonderfullness comes off a grandbaby. Secondly know that you have given yourself and that grandbaby a gift by having this surgery, Mine came a couple of years after my last surgery, and I'm so glad I did it, I can be an active part of her life because of it and enjoy her and she me. Mine is two now and potty training, and I sat her in the seat of the shopping basket, and put my purse in the basket and shopped. She yelled I pee-peed. Got her all cleaned up and changed, and went to pay for my items, and guess what, I had about an inch of pee in my purse, I just started laughing, what could you do, pee soaked checks, creditcards etc. All the Moms and staff and I just cracked up, what else can you do! Know that Grandbaby will be a source of joy the rest of your life and especially now.

Second, share what you are feeling, like you did here, with everyone that surrounds you, more people than you know have fought depression at one time or the other, and you'll find great support, I did. I surrounded myself with things that made me feel good, funny movies, a good one is " Diary of a Mad Black Woman" a Tyler movie, with a good message and it makes your side hurt laughing. Try getting back into a hobby you enjoy, I reupped my interest in Scrapbooking while recovering. I think sometimes we get so bored of just concentrating on recovering, and feeling yucky, you need to put your mind and body doing something else. So worked a little at a time on a wedding picture album for my niece, a little at a time, some days I could sit just a little bit and others more. I now look at that album when I go out to see my family in Boise and I call it my recovery album, even though it's a wedding album, thats what it was for me.

So glad you came back and shared this with us, know we are there pulling for you, especially in the rough moments!

Send along your phone # to my e-mail if you need to talk .Kirkaldie@...

[ ] Hi

Hi everyone, I want to first start off by saying Sorry to everyone especially to Bonnie.Alot of you have been so wonderful to me and I am sorry for not keeping in touch. Bonnie I do want to apoligize for not calling back, first we lost your number my husband's cell phone was lost and there went your phone number. Second I didn't have the energy to get on the computer to email you.I have been suffering from severe depression.......I don't even no where to start/physically I am doing great, when I went for my 2 month check-up he said everything looked great, He did lift some restrictions like driving, I can drive but small distances, I can do light housework, but no vacummin or making beds ( I didn't know this but those two things are the hardest on your back). I can start swimming and using a statinary bike. All and all he said I am looking good still some swelling but in time he said that will go down.As for pain I don't have that much back pain tyneol usually takes care of the back pain if and when I have it.The only thing really bothering me is my left leg in the upper thigh area to my knee it hurts bad, sometimes I can't even walk on it. I did have a fall so the doctor is not sure if that could have been itI tripped over my dog and landed on both of my knees on hardwood floors.........ouchAnyways the reason I have not posted or done anything is I am going thru some depression, its getting worse everyday. I have had some very bad thoughts, It seems like I prepared myself for the pain but nothing for the emotional part. I feel like a changed person, and I am not sure who I am anymore. I cry at everything. I feel like a stranger in my body, I am not sure how it works. I hate how I feel, I hate having everybody do things for me. I went to the store the other day and I dropped something on the floor and I had to ask a stranger if they could pick it up for me. I sleep all the time the other day I slept for 2 days straight.Well I had a talk with Ronnie and we both decided I need to go see a therpist, I am currently on Cymbalta 60mg a day but that was giving to me for pain (before surgery) my current back doctor said of course he will not prescribe it for me I would have to go to my PCP. But instead what I am going to do is set up appointment to see a pysch to see if that is the best medicine for me right nowSo I do feel better today now that I have a game plan I just hope it works, because I don't think I can deal with this much longer, I am losing myself........The only thing that has brought me joy is my beautiful granddaughterSorry this has been a long hello, thank you again everyone for your well wishes. Bonnie can you email me your phone number that is of course if you still want to talk to meThank you

[Guest guest]

- I'm so sorry to hear that you're not feeling like yourself. I

don't know who you should go to, but all I know is that I have been

on Cymbalta SINCE the surgery, and I think it was prescribed for

pain, but I haven't had any crying or emotional problems at all. I

hope that you can get a doctor to prescribe it for you....because for

me it has kept my emotions under control.

Good luck

Carol V.

>

> Hi everyone, I want to first start off by saying Sorry to everyone

> especially to Bonnie.Alot of you have been so wonderful to me and I

> am sorry for not keeping in touch. Bonnie I do want to apoligize

for

> not calling back, first we lost your number my husband's cell phone

> was lost and there went your phone number. Second I didn't have the

> energy to get on the computer to email you.

>

> I have been suffering from severe depression.......I don't even no

> where to start/physically I am doing great, when I went for my 2

> month check-up he said everything looked great, He did lift some

> restrictions like driving, I can drive but small distances, I can

do

> light housework, but no vacummin or making beds ( I didn't know

this

> but those two things are the hardest on your back). I can start

> swimming and using a statinary bike. All and all he said I am

looking

> good still some swelling but in time he said that will go down.

> As for pain I don't have that much back pain tyneol usually takes

> care of the back pain if and when I have it.

> The only thing really bothering me is my left leg in the upper

thigh

> area to my knee it hurts bad, sometimes I can't even walk on it.

> I did have a fall so the doctor is not sure if that could have been

it

> I tripped over my dog and landed on both of my knees on hardwood

> floors.........ouch

>

> Anyways the reason I have not posted or done anything is I am going

> thru some depression, its getting worse everyday. I have had some

> very bad thoughts, It seems like I prepared myself for the pain but

> nothing for the emotional part. I feel like a changed person, and I

> am not sure who I am anymore. I cry at everything. I feel like a

> stranger in my body, I am not sure how it works. I hate how I feel,

I

> hate having everybody do things for me. I went to the store the

other

> day and I dropped something on the floor and I had to ask a

stranger

> if they could pick it up for me. I sleep all the time the other day

I

> slept for 2 days straight.

>

> Well I had a talk with Ronnie and we both decided I need to go see

a

> therpist, I am currently on Cymbalta 60mg a day but that was giving

> to me for pain (before surgery) my current back doctor said of

course

> he will not prescribe it for me I would have to go to my PCP. But

> instead what I am going to do is set up appointment to see a pysch

to

> see if that is the best medicine for me right now

> So I do feel better today now that I have a game plan I just hope

it

> works, because I don't think I can deal with this much longer, I am

> losing myself........

>

> The only thing that has brought me joy is my beautiful granddaughter

>

> Sorry this has been a long hello, thank you again everyone for your

> well wishes. Bonnie can you email me your phone number that is of

> course if you still want to talk to me

>

> Thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI ,

I'm so glad you wrote. No need for you to apologize for not calling me back; I undertand. I'm just glad to hear that you are physically doing so well after such a major surgery and all the complications you had.

I understand completely how you feel now. Been there done that, as the saying goes. My doc put me on Cymbalta, 60 mg, for depression related to pain and it worked well, while also giving me relief from burning nerve pain. A lot of us here have gotten anti-depressants from our PCP's at just about 8 weeks post op, right where you are now. If you have to wait for a psych appointment, perhaps your PCP would put you back on the Cymbalta, especially of you tell him how well you tolerated it before surgery. But please know, this period of depression, as bad as it feels, is really quite normal for us and it will pass. It will. I think that we put so much emphasis on gearing ourselves up for the surgery itself that we haven't truly prepared for the post op realities and it is quite an adjustment. I don't know anyone who hasn't come out of the post op depression, so you just hang in there. Get the help you need and you will get better. I'm certain of that.

I will email you my phone number and I will try to call you tomorrow. I have some stuff of my own going on tomorrow, so if I can't get to you then, I'll call Wednesday afternoon.

Bonnie

[ ] Hi

Hi everyone, I want to first start off by saying Sorry to everyone especially to Bonnie.Alot of you have been so wonderful to me and I am sorry for not keeping in touch. Bonnie I do want to apoligize for not calling back, first we lost your number my husband's cell phone was lost and there went your phone number. Second I didn't have the energy to get on the computer to email you.I have been suffering from severe depression.......I don't even no where to start/physically I am doing great, when I went for my 2 month check-up he said everything looked great, He did lift some restrictions like driving, I can drive but small distances, I can do light housework, but no vacummin or making beds ( I didn't know this but those two things are the hardest on your back). I can start swimming and using a statinary bike. All and all he said I am looking good still some swelling but in time he said that will go down.As for pain I don't have that much back pain tyneol usually takes care of the back pain if and when I have it.The only thing really bothering me is my left leg in the upper thigh area to my knee it hurts bad, sometimes I can't even walk on it. I did have a fall so the doctor is not sure if that could have been itI tripped over my dog and landed on both of my knees on hardwood floors.........ouchAnyways the reason I have not posted or done anything is I am going thru some depression, its getting worse everyday. I have had some very bad thoughts, It seems like I prepared myself for the pain but nothing for the emotional part. I feel like a changed person, and I am not sure who I am anymore. I cry at everything. I feel like a stranger in my body, I am not sure how it works. I hate how I feel, I hate having everybody do things for me. I went to the store the other day and I dropped something on the floor and I had to ask a stranger if they could pick it up for me. I sleep all the time the other day I slept for 2 days straight.Well I had a talk with Ronnie and we both decided I need to go see a therpist, I am currently on Cymbalta 60mg a day but that was giving to me for pain (before surgery) my current back doctor said of course he will not prescribe it for me I would have to go to my PCP. But instead what I am going to do is set up appointment to see a pysch to see if that is the best medicine for me right nowSo I do feel better today now that I have a game plan I just hope it works, because I don't think I can deal with this much longer, I am losing myself........The only thing that has brought me joy is my beautiful granddaughterSorry this has been a long hello, thank you again everyone for your well wishes. Bonnie can you email me your phone number that is of course if you still want to talk to meThank you

[Guest guest]

i dont know how you do it. you are an inspiration to me; to keep going, to

keep struggling, to keep hoping that one day this will all get better. i

went to church today; the sermon was about " the good samaritan " and i know

half of those people in there wouldnt have stopped to pick me up off the

road the other nite when i had to walk over 20 miles with a satchel full of

clothes when my wife dropped me in the middle of no where with no money and

5 cigarettes literally.

im catching up. im hoping to read later that you are feeling better from

that.

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: Abbott <jeannieboo1@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: hi

>Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:36:51 -0700 (PDT)

>

>hi all,

>Have just come back from my spinal surgeon, due to my car accident, I have

>some bulging through my C3-5, just above where my neck fusion was done in

>July. I am so depressed, my neck had been healing so well, I was getting my

>strength back in my arms and hands because he had removed the bone spurs

>and pinched nerves, and along comes some Ethiopian chick who didn't want to

>follow US driving rules, was new to the country and was supposed to have a

>licensed driver with her-she only had a permit, plus, she tried to do a hit

>and run. Now I don't know if there will be enough medical to pay for all

>this care that I need. I need 2 months of PT, have had a cervical MRI, he

>wants me to have a spinal MRI, plus that painful nerve conductivity test,

>plus maybe have an anaesthesialogist put cortisone in my neck. I have to

>talk to my lawyer as to who pays what when my medical runs out. i only had

>the minimum on my car, just thought I didn't need it I guess, or didn't

>understand why I

> needed more. i will be upping it when it comes for renewal, it wasn't

>explained well to me, and I have a 10 year old car. I'll be asking a lot

>more questions from now on. She did have a minimum amount of insurance at

>least, but my neck was almost 100% healed until she did this. Now I'm back

>to drs, tests, and more discomfort. I won't get hardly anything for my

>settlement, lawyer takes 33%. My car will be fixed in a week, at least I

>get to drive a new car for that time, and that's a pleasure over driving a

>10 year old car. If this chick had only obeyed the laws of this country,

>this wouldn't have happened. I can't even lift things i had regained the

>strength to lift before. I'm so mad I could spit!! I take one step forward,

>then two steps back. I guess I have to get over it. Thanks for letting me

>rant and rave, I am just so stressed, and tired---

>

>

>Jeannie

>

>

>

>_______________________________________________________________________________\

_____

>Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate

>in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A.

>http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545367

>

>

[Guest guest]

, thank you so much for your words of encouragement they have helped. Sorry for taking so long to respond, its hard to respond sometimes for me because it seems like everyone has such beautiful words when they write, or they just know exactly what to say. I am always fumbling with my words. So sorry. In response to your questions I really have no one other then my husand and my girls. I am spending more time with the grandbaby so that is helping. Ever since we took off to the beach I have been feeling better. So that is good. Thank you again for your words rebeccamaas <rebeccamaas@...> wrote: ,While I haven't quite had my revision yet, I still wanted to offer you my point of view on your post. From what others have said, it is normal to feel frustrated and depressed about yourself after this surgery, so please know that you're not alone in your feelings. So many people here completely understand what you're going through and are here to listen to your concerns and try to help you.I think that you have taken a few very brave steps in the right direction to try to get a handle on your feelings, and you should be proud of yourself for that. You've talked to your husband about it, you've opened yourself up to the people on this group to talk about it, and you've recognized the need for further help by deciding to see a

therapist.I hope that as you continue in your recovery, you will see all of these baby-steps in your healing, both physical and emotional, add up to a beautiful, confident person.Sleeping in bed for extended periods of time is definately not good, unless you physically need the rest. You said that your granddaughter brings you great joy - is there a way that you can spend some more time with her? And do you have any friends or family nearby that could come over and do something fun with you or for you? Maybe paint your toenails, or rent a funny movie to watch together, or go through old photo albums and reminisce? Or if there is a task that is really bothering you that you'd like accomplished, maybe you could ask (or hire someone) to do it for you - like vaccuuming, or weeding a flower garden, or cleaning your bathroom?I've been disabled and mostly homebound for the last 2 years from multiple sclerosis, so I

understand your frustration and depression dealing with those types of limitations, and the feeling of being trapped in a strange body that doesn't cooperate or belong to you.I wish you the best, and hope that you find some help by seeing a therapist. A big first step in getting control back in your life is just by recognizing the NEED for that help - so congrats on taking that first big step.>> Hi everyone, I want to first start off by saying Sorry to everyone > especially to Bonnie.Alot of you have been so wonderful to me and I > am sorry for not keeping in touch. Bonnie I do want to apoligize for > not calling back, first we lost your number my husband's cell phone > was lost and there went your phone number. Second I

didn't have the > energy to get on the computer to email you.> > I have been suffering from severe depression.......I don't even no > where to start/physically I am doing great, when I went for my 2 > month check-up he said everything looked great, He did lift some > restrictions like driving, I can drive but small distances, I can do > light housework, but no vacummin or making beds ( I didn't know this > but those two things are the hardest on your back). I can start > swimming and using a statinary bike. All and all he said I am looking > good still some swelling but in time he said that will go down.> As for pain I don't have that much back pain tyneol usually takes > care of the back pain if and when I have it.> The only thing really bothering me is my left leg in the upper thigh > area to my knee it hurts bad, sometimes I can't even walk on it.

> I did have a fall so the doctor is not sure if that could have been it> I tripped over my dog and landed on both of my knees on hardwood > floors.........ouch> > Anyways the reason I have not posted or done anything is I am going > thru some depression, its getting worse everyday. I have had some > very bad thoughts, It seems like I prepared myself for the pain but > nothing for the emotional part. I feel like a changed person, and I > am not sure who I am anymore. I cry at everything. I feel like a > stranger in my body, I am not sure how it works. I hate how I feel, I > hate having everybody do things for me. I went to the store the other > day and I dropped something on the floor and I had to ask a stranger > if they could pick it up for me. I sleep all the time the other day I > slept for 2 days straight.> > Well I had a

talk with Ronnie and we both decided I need to go see a > therpist, I am currently on Cymbalta 60mg a day but that was giving > to me for pain (before surgery) my current back doctor said of course > he will not prescribe it for me I would have to go to my PCP. But > instead what I am going to do is set up appointment to see a pysch to > see if that is the best medicine for me right now> So I do feel better today now that I have a game plan I just hope it > works, because I don't think I can deal with this much longer, I am > losing myself........> > The only thing that has brought me joy is my beautiful granddaughter> > Sorry this has been a long hello, thank you again everyone for your > well wishes. Bonnie can you email me your phone number that is of > course if you still want to talk to me> > Thank you >

>

Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

[Guest guest]

I know it was written in a way to apply to those with cancer, but I think it could be tweaked to include those with chronic illnesses. I'm really excited about this! I hope I hear from her soon.

and Rob 18 Spondy

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:17:46 EDT Robbin40@... writes:

Hi

Just wanted to thank you for sending 's Law. When I get this type of info I pass it right on to those who have emailed me about Info on this Topic. THANKS again

Robbin

Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm brand new, I hope I'm doing this right. I don't get yeast

> infections, but have lots of brain fog and depression and

anxiety. My friend told me that it might be candida.

==>Hi kc. Welcome to our group. Sorry I couldn't respond sooner my

friend. I work full-time and just started a new job. Brain fog and

depression can be related to candida, but it can also be caused by

not getting the nutrients needed and by consuming toxins in foods and

drinks. The worst culprits are MSG (and other related substances

added to foods), artificial sugars like aspartame, and even sugar

itself. Soft drinks are very unhealthy not only because of the

sugar, but also because they are high in phosphorus (minerals) which

imbalances minerals in the body.

>

> I've had lots of antibiotics in my life and some steroids too about

10 years ago. I hope to learn a lot and make some new friends.

>

> Where do I start? Do I have to do everthing all at once because I

> don't have a lot of extra money to spend on vitamins and stuff.

==>No, you do not need to do everything at once. It is advisable to

start one step at a time and change over your diet gradually,

otherwise it can cause too many die-off or healing symptoms, as well

as constipation if you do not balance your proteins to fats

correctly. See the article " Curing Candida, How to Get Started "

which is in our group's files (left-hand menu) in the 2nd Folder.

==>We are happy to have you with us kc. You too can get well like

many other people have on this program!

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I am new, and I just wanted to say I have Hep c, 10 years, and am

> getting ready to get a liver biopsy. I am very afraid of this, I hate

> needles for one thing. This whole thing is beginning to creep me out,

> I am afraid most of the time. I feel so alone. Thanks for reading.

>

The biopsy process has improved greatly over the years; the worst part

is the wait after the process until they are sure the bleeding has

stopped - which involves lying on your side for a couple of hours. It's

been a couple of years for me, and maybe even that part has improved by

now.

Good Luck

john