Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Hi, Shirley. Your story is truly inspiring! Did you take gelatin

capsules or do stocks?

Thanks!

Z

On May 16, 2007, at 10:21 PM, candidasufferer wrote:

> I started

> Bee's diet in Feb of 06 and I was using alot of gelatin over the

> summer and by last Sept I noticed that I had re-generated all new

> enamel where I had brushed it off.

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness!! That is all the symptoms I have!! Plus more but my blood work

shows normal so they keep telling me " its all in my head, I must be depressed! "

You have inspired me, thank you so much, NOW, I have hope. No matter how hard

this diet is to stay on, I am going to do it. Every time I crave sugar, I will

ask myself, Do you want sugar or do you want your health and hair back?? Its as

simple as that really. Did your hair grow back in ?? If so, how long did it

take? Sorry for the questions, Im just really worried.

candidasufferer <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

>

> Hi , this is . I was just wondering if Shirley is taking

thyroid meds or if the candida diet helped straighten out the

thyroid malfunction??

Hi ,

No I did not take any thyroid meds, my blood work never showed an

imbalance (rigid cells) even though I had dry, cracked skin, a

hoarse voice, mega hair loss, coarse dry hair, no sex drive, stopped

period, weight gain, you get the picture. There were times that I

wanted desperately to take anything just to get my hair to stop

falling out but I couldn't get a script because I couldn't *prove*

there was a problem. Bee just kept on telling me that my thyroid

WOULD heal though, so I persevered, and voila, it has! Hang in there

, it will heal.

Shirley

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> > ==>Peas wouldn't be allowed - they are legumes which are high in

> > carbs and sugar. But pea pods are usually okay.

>

> Ahhhh, here lies the confusion, pea pods as opposed to snap peas,

> got it!

+++Yes that can be confusing Shirley.

>

> > ==>My, you've got nothing but great news and wins to report, eh?

> > That's fabulous! Looking younger is definitely needed and wanted

> >for all of us.

>

> Bee I forgot to mention the disappearance of my black circles and

> how white the whites of my eyes are now too! As unpleasant as this

> is, enemas are the reason. No one likes to do them but they made a

> HUGE difference for me in cleaning out my liver, I just wish I

> didn't wait so long before I started doing them, oh well.

+++That's wonderful to know. Black circles around the eyes is

definitely a sign of toxicity.

>

> > ==>You ARE definitely an inspiration Shirley! Didn't you also

> >report awhile ago that the enamel on your teeth formed and was

nice and smooth?

>

> Yes Bee, I regenerated new enamel where I had scrubbed it away

years ago, and had the worst sensitivity you could imagine. The

dentists NEVER tell you that you can regenerate enamel but I did!!!!!

This is my favorite thing to tell people ;+)

+++Thanks. I thought you had reported that awhile ago. That is

trully amazing!

>

> > ==>Congratulations Shirley. All of your hard work and

> >perseverance is paying off. I'm so very proud of you. May I

> >please post this in our Success Stories? Love, Bee

>

> Of course my friend!

+++Thanks Shirley.

Love, Bee

[Guest guest]

This is very interesting as I've had this my entire life! Also,

sometimes docs say they're related to allergies!!

Z

On May 17, 2007, at 8:54 AM, Bee wrote:

> That's wonderful to know. Black circles around the eyes is

> definitely a sign of toxicity.

> >

[Guest guest]

I have many thyroid symptoms with normal antibodies and TSH. I am

freezing all the time, I have profuse Candida on my face and scalp

via wood lamp.. Im glowign orange... I am fatiqued, depressed, feet

turn blue, my voice at times is hoarse and its like I have to work to

get my voice box to talk.. major hair loss in a fast fast way.. yet

everything is coming back ok every blood test. I am on day 5-6? of

the diet and hoping it works for me. I wonder how long it might take

to feel a difference? I seem to feel worse but i understand that can

be die off plus I am stopping diflucan as its not helping me one bit.

I am sticking with this plan.... I want to heal myself so badly.

>

> My Dearest Bee,

>

> How are you my friend? I am doing great! The reason I'm writing is

> to tell you that I have finally healed my thyroid and consequently

> YES!!!! MY HAIR HAS STOPPED FALLING OUT!!!!!!! YEY!!!! It took ten

> long, grueling months and A LOT of hair, but I did it. Also, after

a

[Guest guest]

>

> I have many thyroid symptoms with normal antibodies and TSH. I am

> freezing all the time, I have profuse Candida on my face and scalp

> via wood lamp.. Im glowign orange...

==>If you are glowing orange it may indicate you have been taking too

many beta carotene vitamins (the plant form of vitamin A).

> I am fatiqued, depressed, feet turn blue, my voice at times is

hoarse and its like I have to work to get my voice box to talk..

major hair loss in a fast fast way.. yet everything is coming back ok

every blood test. I am on day 5-6? of the diet and hoping it works

for me. I wonder how long it might take to feel a difference? I seem

to feel worse but i understand that can be die off plus I am stopping

diflucan as its not helping me one bit.

==>It does take time my friend, so patience and persistence on the

program are very important. Healing naturally isn't a steady uphill

climb toward health where you feel better and better every day. It

has its ups and downs. Even after having a few good days you will

experience bad days. As the body gets stronger it will go after one

area after another healing them. But first it breaks down the area

detoxifying it and then it starts to rebuild. Hang in there. If you

need a boost read the many Success Stories:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/success.php

>

> I am sticking with this plan.... I want to heal myself so badly.

==>Good for you !!

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, Shirley. Your story is truly inspiring! Did you take gelatin

> capsules or do stocks?

> Thanks!

> Z

Hi Zoe,

I use the powdered gelatin. I put 1 tsp in my egg drink every day when

I was having that for breakfast. It makes it thicker that's why I

started using it and the added bonus was my enamel re-growth.

Shirley

[Guest guest]

I ask, because not only was I struggling w/depression, I gained a lot of weight

in a very short amount of time, despite regular exercise and healthy eating. My

thyroid tests were *normal*, but my dr. gave Armour Thyroid anyway. And while

I'm still working on losing the extra weight, I stopped gaining and started

losing weight once I started the Armour. It helped a lot of the other

symptoms, too. BTW, I'm taking Lexapro, because I was still struggling

w/depression (and had been off and on since I was a child) and it has helped

immensely.

Thyroid

I had Thyroid tests over the years that were always normal but my mom

and maternal aunt both have Hypothyroidism.In March my free T4 showed

an elevation but the Tsh was normal.They recommended that I get

rechecked in July, so I'll see what the results are then. I do have

alot of symptoms that are similiar to a thyroid problem but I have

battled depression for years too.

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[Guest guest]

Most doctors do test for thyroid in cases of anxiety and depression. That was

the first thing my doctor looked at. Also my hormone levels to see if I was in

peri-menopause.

Barbara

Thyroid

I had Thyroid tests over the years that were always normal but my mom

and maternal aunt both have Hypothyroidism.In March my free T4 showed

an elevation but the Tsh was normal.They recommended that I get

rechecked in July, so I'll see what the results are then. I do have

alot of symptoms that are similiar to a thyroid problem but I have

battled depression for years too.

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[Guest guest]

As long as your ovaries are intact and functioning normally you should be fine

as far as hormone levels until you hit peri and menopause.

The Lex can cause the hot flashes. Most uncomfortable.

Barbara

Thyroid

Barbara,

I appreciate your response. I thought for sure my hormones would be

out of whack when checked (especially since I have hot flashes!!) but

they are normal. I did have a hysterstomy 10 years ago but I still ahve

my ovaries.

[Guest guest]

I have had Thyroid disorder since the age 12. At the age of 41, I

presented with very high anti-thyroglobulin (3000) and was diagnosed

with Hashimoto thyroiditis. In 2004, I presented with thyroid nodules

and also with elevated liver enzymes. By the end of 2004, I was

diagnosed with auto immune disease of the liver (PBC). In 2007, my

thyroid nodules have grown larger and will not shrink with increase in

thyroid medication. I have since presented with a growth on the upper

left lobe of the lung. I went through a bronchosopy which further

indicated surgery. I am now set for surgery within a week. It is now

suspected that I may have sarcoidosis and that the liver that was

thought to be PBC my be sarcoidosis. To answer your question, I first

presented with hypothyroid problems as a child.

>

> My son recently had some blood work done and his anti-thyroglobulin

> antibody and his anti-GAD antigbody were positive. Results were 28.1

> (normal <24.9) and .19 (normal .1) respectively. He will see an

> endocrinologist in a few weeks to decipher these tests. I read that a

> positive result is a sign of hypothyroidism (among other things). Has

> anyone else experienced this along with the AIH and does it have any

> connection with auto-immune disease that anyone knows of?

>

[Guest guest]

It was because of my thyroid problem that I came to be dx with AIH. My regular

doctor sent me to an Endocronologist because my blood work indicated I may have

a thyroid problem. It happened that I had a hyperactive thyroid. While the

Endo was treating me for my thyroid, he found my blood report to show a problem

with my liver counts. He suggested I see a Gastroenterologist. The result was

that I was dx with AIH. I had a liver biopsy which showed I am in Stage 3-4.

The GI said I have had this problem for few years in order for it to have

reached this stage. The GI also said it is not uncommon to have a thyroid

problem along with AIH. My regular doctor said she would have never suspected a

liver problem because I was not typical of a person with AIH. So I feel lucky

to have gone to the Endo.

Wishing everyone well....Ellie

kmanmom2002 <ktellier@...> wrote:

My son recently had some blood work done and his anti-thyroglobulin

antibody and his anti-GAD antigbody were positive. Results were 28.1

(normal <24.9) and .19 (normal .1) respectively. He will see an

endocrinologist in a few weeks to decipher these tests. I read that a

positive result is a sign of hypothyroidism (among other things). Has

anyone else experienced this along with the AIH and does it have any

connection with auto-immune disease that anyone knows of?

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for responding.? I have never found out what stage my son is at with

his AIH.? I have to remember to ask his Hepatologist when we see her in

September.? She keeps track of his blood work through some of the other depts

that we've been seeing regularly (he has a neuropathy problem), but we haven't

actually had an appt with her since March.? His liver numbers are very good

now.? I meet with one endocrine doctor next week, but I'm not sure if she's seen

these results.? My son sees her because he has weak bones (osteopenia), but not

for other endocrine issues.? I will see if she will consult on this as well to

save me another doctor appt.?

Re: [ ] Thyroid

It was because of my thyroid problem that I came to be dx with AIH. My regular

doctor sent me to an Endocronologist because my blood work indicated I may have

a thyroid problem. It happened that I had a hyperactive thyroid. While the Endo

was treating me for my thyroid, he found my blood report to show a problem with

my liver counts. He suggested I see a Gastroenterologist. The result was that I

was dx with AIH. I had a liver biopsy which showed I am in Stage 3-4. The GI

said I have had this problem for few years in order for it to have reached this

stage. The GI also said it is not uncommon to have a thyroid problem along with

AIH. My regular doctor said she would have never suspected a liver problem

because I was not typical of a person with AIH. So I feel lucky to have gone to

the Endo.

Wishing everyone well....Ellie

kmanmom2002 <ktellier@...> wrote:

My son recently had some blood work done and his anti-thyroglobulin

antibody and his anti-GAD antigbody were positive. Results were 28.1

(normal <24.9) and .19 (normal .1) respectively. He will see an

endocrinologist in a few weeks to decipher these tests. I read that a

positive result is a sign of hypothyroidism (among other things). Has

anyone else experienced this along with the AIH and does it have any

connection with auto-immune disease that anyone knows of?

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[Guest guest]

There are a great many autoimmune disorders. Some of the best known are

rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, and multiple sclerosis. We are fortunate that most

of

us, although not all, are able to successfully treat AIH, slowing its

progression so we can live normal lifespans in a fairly normal way.

It is important that we, and our doctors, keep the possibility of other ADs

in mind, so we can diagnose and treat them promptly should they arise.

Harper

In a message dated 7/18/07 9:40:54 AM, jfogl@... writes:

> 've been told by the doctors that thyroid problems and AIH are

> " related " , in as much as both are autoimmune disorders. Even

> asthma, rheumatism, Crohn's, Sjogren's etc. fall in the same

> category (and, again according to the doctors, I am a walking

> example of the fact, having several of the above mentioned,

> hypothyroidism included...)

>

> Jaana

>

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[Guest guest]

I've been told by the doctors that thyroid problems and AIH are

" related " , in as much as both are autoimmune disorders. Even

asthma, rheumatism, Crohn's, Sjogren's etc. fall in the same

category (and, again according to the doctors, I am a walking

example of the fact, having several of the above mentioned,

hypothyroidism included...).

Jaana

17.7.2007 19:03, kmanmom2002 kirjoitti:

>

>

> My son recently had some blood work done and his anti-thyroglobulin

> antibody and his anti-GAD antigbody were positive. Results were 28.1

> (normal <24.9) and .19 (normal .1) respectively. He will see an

> endocrinologist in a few weeks to decipher these tests. I read that a

> positive result is a sign of hypothyroidism (among other things). Has

> anyone else experienced this along with the AIH and does it have any

> connection with auto-immune disease that anyone knows of?

[Guest guest]

STOP the THYROID MADNESS will be closing within a week! This was

announced on the thyroid@ site.

Amber

=============

>

> Kathy,

> A good place to start is researching thyroid treatment

> www.stopthethyroidmadness.com .

> B

> God Bless America!

> One Nation Under God

> Re: Re:VCO Causing Changes to Hair

>

>

> > Thanks --am passing this on to my girlfriend with thyroid

problems.

> > Kathy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just found out.... it's just the forums that are closing, not the

website. The info will still be there to read. We just have to go elsewhere

for discussion.

B

God Bless America!

One Nation Under God

Re: Thyroid

> STOP the THYROID MADNESS will be closing within a week! This was

> announced on the thyroid@ site.

>

> Amber

[Guest guest]

B,

I don't know why you are saying that the site will not be closing.

The moderators/owners of the site stated in plain language a post

stating the ARE closing the whole site. Here is part of their post:

So…a difficult decision was made that the forums which are now

closed, would stay closed. Additionally, it was decided that since I

couldn't be as available because of an additional job, and since

others were also having conflicts, [the entire STTM forums will need

to cease to exist within the next week] so several of us can do what

we need to in our personal lives.

BUT THERE IS GOOD NEWS! Deborah of the General Thyroid forum felt

like she had the time and desire to create a forum on another URL—a

totally separate place not affiliated with STTM, but where you can

still talk patient-to-patient with others concerning everything that

STTM represents. She is working on that as I write this. So, though

this announcement gives you the sad news that the STTM forums need to

be gone so several moderators can take care of their lives, a new one

will be formed. And I will be announcing it's location to you as soon

as it's ready.

Additionally, STTM will have a page of any and all groups and/or

forums where you can go and which we think are fine places to get the

patient-to-patient interaction that you desire and benefit from.

I am also inclosing the link that takes you right to their full

notice saying they are closing the whole site.

SSTM forums closing....

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/friends-of-sttm-forums

Amber

==================

>

> I just found out.... it's just the forums that are closing, not

the

> website. The info will still be there to read. We just have to go

elsewhere

> for discussion.

> B

> God Bless America!

> One Nation Under God

> Re: Thyroid

>

>

> > STOP the THYROID MADNESS will be closing within a week! This

was

> > announced on the thyroid@ site.

> >

> > Amber

>

[Guest guest]

Are you sure ?

Please give link to the page that says this..

[Guest guest]

I am in another group moderated by the owner of STTM. I asked these

questions in that group & she answered. I don't feel comfortable forwarding

mail from another group, but you can join & read the archives. The

conversation was yesterday 8/18/07.

NaturalThyroidHormones/

B

God Bless America!

One Nation Under God

----- Original Message -----

From: " amberblzn " <amberblzn@...>

B,

I don't know why you are saying that the site will not be closing.

The moderators/owners of the site stated in plain language a post

stating the ARE closing the whole site. Here is part of their post:

[Guest guest]

Just the FORUMS are closing, not the informational

site.

--- B <clb13135@...> wrote:

> I am in another group moderated by the owner of

> STTM. I asked these

> questions in that group & she answered. I don't feel

> comfortable forwarding

> mail from another group, but you can join & read the

> archives. The

> conversation was yesterday 8/18/07.

>

>

NaturalThyroidHormones/

>

> B

> God Bless America!

> One Nation Under God

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " amberblzn " <amberblzn@...>

>

>

> B,

>

> I don't know why you are saying that the site will

> not be closing.

> The moderators/owners of the site stated in plain

> language a post

> stating the ARE closing the whole site. Here is part

> of their post:

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For Bruce, or Anyone

The coconut oil seems to be working absolutely great for my Crohns, but

may also be raising my blood pressure. Is that to be expected? Is it

temporary? For now it is a trade-off I am willing to make while I

pursue natural blood pressure cures including homeopathy and

transdermal magnesium therapy.

Thanks,

On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Bruce Fife wrote:

,

There are many causes of low thyroid function. Coconut oil will help

all

of them, but it will have different degrees of effectiveness depending

on the root cause. Coconut oil is helpful for all types of

hypothyroidism because it raises metabolism and in many cases help

people reduce the need for medication. Some people are able to

completely get of medication. My program involves more than just adding

coconut oil into the diet, because there are many things that can

affect

thyroid function, which is why some people can use coconut oil and see

little improvement. They may be doing something that promotes low

thyroid function while they are taking the coconut oil. It is like

hitting your hand with a hammer and putting coconut oil on to heal it

and then hitting the hand again. Coconut oil can't fix a problem if the

problem is continually promoted. This topic is very complex and can't

adequately be explained in an email. However, if you want to learn a

little bit more about how coconut oil can successfully treat some forms

of low thyroid, I suggest reading my book " Eat Fat, Look Thin. "

Bruce

Re: Interesting event

Bruce:

You said " I have people who have been completely weaned off of thyroid

medications by using my coconut thyroid program. "

Could you elaborate what that program is since many are not in your

area to visit you.

Perhaps you could also explain why some of us dont respond at all to

coconut oil even though we are hypo...as i am and also have adrenal

fatigue...is this the reason,its not the thyroid alone.

If it was thyroid alone coconut oil would work ? Thats what Im

observing anyway. .

[Guest guest]

,

Coconut oil does not raise blood pressure. If anything it lowers high

blood pressure. The idea that coconut oil raises blood pressure comes

from the same people who say it clogs arteries and causes heart disease.

It is just not true.

Bruce

Re: Interesting event

Bruce:

You said " I have people who have been completely weaned off of thyroid

medications by using my coconut thyroid program. "

Could you elaborate what that program is since many are not in your

area to visit you.

Perhaps you could also explain why some of us dont respond at all to

coconut oil even though we are hypo...as i am and also have adrenal

fatigue...is this the reason,its not the thyroid alone.

If it was thyroid alone coconut oil would work ? Thats what Im

observing anyway. .

[Guest guest]

Hi Bruce,

There is a statement on the Earth Clinic site that

contraindicates coconut oil for people with high blood

pressure.

I was taking it for a few weeks and my blood pressure

readings were quite high and when I found the website,

I stopped taking it. My readings were never below

132/86 and went as high as 154/101.

I suffered a mini-stroke 5 years ago because a

gynecologist ignored my blood pressure readings and

prescribed a low-dose birth-control pill for

sleeplessness. Within the week, I had what the

doctors call a " transaschemic seizure " . So, I don't

want to risk anything like that again. High blood

pressure runs in our family and its called " essential

hypertension " , meaning, they don't know what's causing

it.

I'm not overweight at all, I have great muscle tone,

I've practiced yoga for 25 years and I teach it, so

this blood pressure thing is simply a nuisance. My

husband and I are both on macrobiotic diets so we eat

no meat, no dairy, no sugar, salt or processed foods.

We eat a diet of complex carbohydrates from grains,

vegetables, some fruit, and occasionally, white fish.

My husband does take coconut oil daily and he has

Hepatitis C. I haven't found any evidence yet that

would indicate that the coconut oil will help except

for adding necessary fats to the somewhat low-fat diet

he's on now.

Here's the link to the Earth Clinic site:

http://www.earthcli nic.com/Remedies /coconut_

oil_facts. html

Best,

Deborah

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--- Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Coconut oil does not raise blood pressure. If

> anything it lowers high

> blood pressure. The idea that coconut oil raises

> blood pressure comes

> from the same people who say it clogs arteries and

> causes heart disease.

> It is just not true.

>

> Bruce

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[Guest guest]

Bruce:

I understand what you are saying. With me its hypo caused by adrenal

fatigue. This is a new concept for me and the " stop the thyroid

madness " site gave a host of symptoms that have never been fully

explained to me,which I have.

Ive been taking VCO for over a year now and I know that VCO has not

helped my adrenals...that have in turned made me Hypo. And it hasnt

helped my thyroid...well it may have but I still feel terrible.

What would you say about this considering that many on that site use

armour and have improved considerably.

This is what confuses me a little,because armour is a thyroid

treatment,not adrenal medication...and yet it works.

The coconut thyroid treatment you refered to,is that in the book you

mention ?