Thyroid

[Guest guest]

Dear Kate,

Maura is at prozactruth!!!

> Is Maura (anamcara) even on this list...or should I try to find her

on

> ProzacTruth?

> Thanks,

> Kate

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is the list... Sorry, I did not get to it

sooner... sometimes I just don't have time to even

look at the computer and I miss it, especially these

messages:

I copied that from one of the messages I got either

from bowel cleanse or hypothyroidism:

> Avoid foods that suppress thyroid function,

> including broccoli,

> cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, kale,

> spinach, turnips,

> soybeans, peanuts, linseed, pinenuts, millet,

> cassava, and mustard

> greens.

> Avoid refined foods, dairy products, wheat,

> caffeine, and alcohol.

> Essential fatty acids (1,000 to 1,500 mg three

> times per day) are

> necessary for hormone production.

> Vitamin C (1,000 mg three to four times per day),

> vitamin A (10,000 to

> 25,000 IU per day), B complex [50 to 100 mg/day,

> augmented with vitamins

> B2 (riboflavin, 15 mg), B3 (niacin, 25 to 50 mg),

> and B6 (pyridoxine, 25

> to 50 mg)], selenium (200 mcg per day), iodine (300

> mcg per day),

> vitamin E (400 IU per day), and zinc (30 mg per day)

> are necessary for

> thyroid hormone production.

> L-tyrosine (500 mg two or three times a day) also

> supports normal

> thyroid function. May make high blood pressure

> worse.

> Calcium (1,000 mg per day) and magnesium (200 to

> 600 mg per day) help

> many metabolic processes function normally.

> Herbs

> Herbs may be used as dried extracts (capsules,

> powders, teas),

> glycerites (glycerine extracts), or tinctures

> (alcohol extracts). Unless

> otherwise indicated, teas should be made with 1 tsp.

> herb per cup of hot

> water. Steep covered 5 to 10 minutes for leaf or

> flowers, and 10 to 20

> minutes for roots. Drink 2 to 4 cups per day.

> This combination supports thyroid function: Combine

> equal parts of the

> following herbs for a tea (3 to 4 cups per day) or

> tincture (20 to 30

> drops three times per day). Horsetail (Equisetum

> arvense), oatstraw

> (Avena sativa), alfalfa (Medicago sativa), and gotu

> kola (Centella

> asiatica).

> Kelp (Alaria esculenta), bladderwrack (Fucus

> vesiculosis), and Irish

> moss (Chondrus crispus) may be taken as foods or in

> capsule form.

> Coleus foreskohlii (1 to 2 ml three times a day)

> stimulates thyroid

> function with an increase in thyroid hormone

> production. Also, herbs

> such as guggul (Commiphora guggul) (25 mg of

> guggulsterones three times

> a day) and hawthorne (Crataegus oxyacantha) (500 mg

> twice a day) are

> taken to counteract high cholesterol, which often

> accompanies

> hypothyroidism

>

>

--- Peaches14845@... wrote:

> I am very interested in the list too thanks!

>

> Debbie

>

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[Guest guest]

--- In bowel cleanse@y..., " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@e...> wrote, in

part:

> This was 3 months ago and I had my fillings then and I benefited,

> so I don't think the fillings has everything to do with thyroid

> levels.

Well, what mercury can do is mess with one's thyroid levels and

CAUSE the need for supplementation and adjustments. It is not

the ONLY cause of thyroid problems I'm sure. Once things are

out-of-whack, then taking various thyroid meds/supplements WILL

help, but won't change the underlying condition.....

best wishes,

Moria

[Guest guest]

Eating the wrong type of food for your blood type can mess up your thyroid

function, apparently. Have you considered this avenue?

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Re: thyroid

> --- In bowel cleanse@y..., " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@e...> wrote, in

> part:

>

> > This was 3 months ago and I had my fillings then and I benefited,

> > so I don't think the fillings has everything to do with thyroid

> > levels.

>

> Well, what mercury can do is mess with one's thyroid levels and

> CAUSE the need for supplementation and adjustments. It is not

> the ONLY cause of thyroid problems I'm sure. Once things are

> out-of-whack, then taking various thyroid meds/supplements WILL

> help, but won't change the underlying condition.....

>

> best wishes,

> Moria

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joan,

It's very common to have hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism with

AIH. I have hypothyroidism and they give me .150 mg thyroxine daily,

I have been on thyroid medicine for 16 years. If you are underactive

like I am with my thyroid you will feel better if you start on

medicine. Underactive thyroid can make you feel tired, dry skin and

the thyroid gland though small is very important to many body

systems. I hope that helps some.

Love,

Ruth

> Hey guys,

> Quick question.......

> I went for labs this week, pretty good, but they are

> sending me for more blood work. They want to check

> something with my Thyroid.

> Any idea what it could be. I was too nervous to ask

> what it could be for.

> Anybody have the same????

> Joan

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

yes, i have it too. Kathy

-- In @y..., " hrby97111 " <hrby97111@y...> wrote:

> Hi Joan,

> It's very common to have hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism with

> AIH. I have hypothyroidism and they give me .150 mg thyroxine

daily,

> I have been on thyroid medicine for 16 years. If you are

underactive

> like I am with my thyroid you will feel better if you start on

> medicine. Underactive thyroid can make you feel tired, dry skin

and

> the thyroid gland though small is very important to many body

> systems. I hope that helps some.

> Love,

> Ruth

>

>

>

> > Hey guys,

> > Quick question.......

> > I went for labs this week, pretty good, but they are

> > sending me for more blood work. They want to check

> > something with my Thyroid.

> > Any idea what it could be. I was too nervous to ask

> > what it could be for.

> > Anybody have the same????

> > Joan

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/25/2003 11:51:10 AM Central Standard Time,

mortons2@... writes:

> You mentioned the Optimum Health Institute has a wes ite. What is the web

> address, please?

>

http://www.optimumhealth.org/

http://www.bastropchamber.com/MapAds/optimum.htm this one is in Austin,Tx

[Guest guest]

You mentioned the Optimum Health Institute has a wes ite. What is the web

address, please?

Thanks!

>

> From: <abrs@...>

> Date: 2003/01/23 Thu PM 05:33:43 EST

> <bowel cleanse >

> Subject: Re: Thyroid

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had thyroid cancer in May of 2002 and had my thyroid removed. Since, the

docs have had a hard time getting my meds right. Since my surgery which was

May of 2003 (1 year and 14 days after my thyroid cancer surgery) I have

tested hypo three times. I had bloodwork done in July, September and just

last week. Finally, this time the doctor increased my meds. I feel like

I'm losing slow and I do believe that it is related to me being hypo. I

start the higher dose of meds tomorrow. Just so you know I have lost 80

pounds in 6 months. Please feel free to email me with any questions or feel

free to call. My number is 812-863-7251. I do have to say that being hypo

and tired has hurt my family life and my business. I'm a Pampered Chef

consultant and I just have not had the engery to get on the phone and make

the calls to book show. Because of this, I don't have many shows. I'm

hoping with the increase in meds I will be able to get my business back on

track.

Cami in IN

264/184

Thyroid

> I know pre-op my thyroid was a huge issue with me being able to lose

> weight. It just fluxated so much and was hard to maintain the correct

> range.

>

> Does anyone post-op know if persons with Thyroid disease tend to be

> slow loosers?

>

> Kim

> Boise Idaho

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am a slow loser and I have a definite problem with my thryoid. Had it

checked last month and even after losing all I've lost my thryoid is much much

worse. My pcp was surprised at this (thryoid being even more inactive than

before as he thought the weight loss may help somewhat). Now he has up'd my

dosage and has me coming back in 2 months to check tsh levels etc. again.

So... I'm not sure if this has contributed to my slower than others weight loss

or not and I have not lost any weight in the last 6 weeks but still thankful for

what I have shed.

Good Luck.

Barb, n/e oHIo

>>> " Whitney " <KIMBWHIT@...> 12/01/03 12:19PM >>>

I know pre-op my thyroid was a huge issue with me being able to lose

weight. It just fluxated so much and was hard to maintain the correct

range.

Does anyone post-op know if persons with Thyroid disease tend to be

slow loosers?

[Guest guest]

Not if you take your synthyroid and keep your thyroid levels at a normal

level.

, Ph.D.

9836 Natick Road

Burke, VA 22015

[Guest guest]

Hello Faye...

Thank you for the email concerning the thyroid. I do agree that when

undertreated, I experience many aches and pains, but more of a muscular ache.

It seems that no matter how good I feel otherwise, the tenderness in my hips,

back, ribs, etc. does not go away. I am glad to hear that your daughter is on

Armour.. I am as well. As soon as I was diagnosed with thyroid disease, the

first thing I did was become as informed as possible about the condition. I

quickly learned that for many thyroid patients, Armour is ideal as well as the

importance of keeping your FT3 and FT4 in the upper part of the range. I do all

of my own testing through HealthcheckUSA and have made sure to team up with a

couple of very cooperative doctors that let me adjust dosage according to

symptoms. I would love to do some more searching only to discover that

everything is connected to my thyroid, but after 2 years of being on sufficient

thyroid treatment, I am needing to start looking elsewhere. Thank you again for

writing!

....Kelley

" Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved " Acts 16:31

[Guest guest]

Lori,

It can certainly be confusing.

Have you tried doing the oral temperature test? Sometimes, the

thyroid has to be really bad before it shows up on the blood tests.

Before I was ever diagnosed with hypothyroidism, my temperatures were

always low. Like 96.2 - 97.6 all the time. Wish I had of known about

the oral test back then.

> I've had an enlarged thyroid (goiter) for years, for about the same

> amount of time that I've had Samters. They often test it and the

> numbers come back sort of on the hyperthyroid side, but then they

> retest it and they come back normal or mostly normal. So nothing

has

> ever been done. I don't FEEL hyperthyroid though or look it -- I

> look and feel hypothyroid. So it is very confusing.

>

> Lori

[Guest guest]

Anne, I am the same way as you except I don't like real hot weather....but at

70-75 I'm wearing a housecoat or sweater if I'm outside. I just call it

reverse-menopause, although I have found myself sweating in bed the last few

nights....probably cuz it's fairly hot here. Aso have had the chills at night

too. Claudine, my thyroid was just checked, the numbers were higher....I used

to be around 1-2, now I'm a 3-4. I've been feeling really good for at least 6

weeks, no naps, a normal sleep pattern and more energy.

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay for

it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best. *sigh*

Carol

Re: tea tree oil & hair

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> On temps. Somewhere during treatment, my thermostat reversed. Net

> result:

> No hot flashes, cold chills, instead. I can handle heat under 100

> quite well.

> When the temp drops below 70, I'm in flannels.

> Go figure,

> Anne

>

This is characteristic of developing hypothyroidism! Have you had

your thyroid function checked??

C

[Guest guest]

Anne, I am the same way as you except I don't like real hot weather....but at

70-75 I'm wearing a housecoat or sweater if I'm outside. I just call it

reverse-menopause, although I have found myself sweating in bed the last few

nights....probably cuz it's fairly hot here. Aso have had the chills at night

too. Claudine, my thyroid was just checked, the numbers were higher....I used

to be around 1-2, now I'm a 3-4. I've been feeling really good for at least 6

weeks, no naps, a normal sleep pattern and more energy.

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay for

it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best. *sigh*

Carol

Re: tea tree oil & hair

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> On temps. Somewhere during treatment, my thermostat reversed. Net

> result:

> No hot flashes, cold chills, instead. I can handle heat under 100

> quite well.

> When the temp drops below 70, I'm in flannels.

> Go figure,

> Anne

>

This is characteristic of developing hypothyroidism! Have you had

your thyroid function checked??

C

[Guest guest]

So how do they know if you counts are normal or high if they don't test?

Re: thyroid

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay for

it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best. *sigh*

Carol

[Guest guest]

So how do they know if you counts are normal or high if they don't test?

Re: thyroid

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay for

it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best. *sigh*

Carol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2004 12:56:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

I've been feeling really good for at least 6 weeks, no naps, a normal sleep

pattern and more energy.

That's wonderful, Carol. You must be doing something right. If you figure

out exactly what it is, tell us. I've been too busy to think about being

tired. had another squamous cell carcinoma removed from his hand. This

time

they'll have to do reconstructive surgery. There's a lot to be said about

reserve energy provided by the " Higher Power " when it's necessary. I am sleeping

more and longer, but says I cry in my sleep. I don't wake up, so

heaven only knows what I'm dreaming.

Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2004 12:56:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

I've been feeling really good for at least 6 weeks, no naps, a normal sleep

pattern and more energy.

That's wonderful, Carol. You must be doing something right. If you figure

out exactly what it is, tell us. I've been too busy to think about being

tired. had another squamous cell carcinoma removed from his hand. This

time

they'll have to do reconstructive surgery. There's a lot to be said about

reserve energy provided by the " Higher Power " when it's necessary. I am sleeping

more and longer, but says I cry in my sleep. I don't wake up, so

heaven only knows what I'm dreaming.

Anne

[Guest guest]

I'm so sorry that had another squamous cell carcinoma...you guys have

really battled this for a long time now.

Maybe if you got some essential lavendar oil and put a couple drops on your

pillow at night it might bring you sweeter dreams.

Re: thyroid

had another squamous cell carcinoma removed from his hand. This time

they'll have to do reconstructive surgery. There's a lot to be said about

reserve energy provided by the " Higher Power " when it's necessary. I am sleeping

more and longer, but says I cry in my sleep. I don't wake up, so heaven

only knows what I'm dreaming.

Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2004 11:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

I'm so sorry that had another squamous cell carcinoma...you guys have

really battled this for a long time now.

Maybe if you got some essential lavendar oil and put a couple drops on your

pillow at night it might bring you sweeter dreams.

There's a thought and thank you for it. God never gives you a burden that

you aren't strong enough to bear.

Thank God for good dermatologist who are concerned about the vets. Those who

stand and fight for the freedoms we take for granted should be recognized

with something besides another chronic illness.

Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/17/2004 11:31:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

I'm so sorry that had another squamous cell carcinoma...you guys have

really battled this for a long time now.

Maybe if you got some essential lavendar oil and put a couple drops on your

pillow at night it might bring you sweeter dreams.

There's a thought and thank you for it. God never gives you a burden that

you aren't strong enough to bear.

Thank God for good dermatologist who are concerned about the vets. Those who

stand and fight for the freedoms we take for granted should be recognized

with something besides another chronic illness.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is another test

that goes much further into it, that test is very expensive I guess. A lot of

people have normal blood levels but there is still an underlying problem that

can only be found by doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it

involves, dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something to

do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you spine? Don't I

sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog.

Carol

Re: thyroid

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay

for it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best.

*sigh*

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is another test

that goes much further into it, that test is very expensive I guess. A lot of

people have normal blood levels but there is still an underlying problem that

can only be found by doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it

involves, dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something to

do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you spine? Don't I

sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog.

Carol

Re: thyroid

I had asked my doctor for a full thyroid panel but the government won't pay

for it unless my numbers are outta whack. Socialized medical at it's best.

*sigh*

Carol

[Guest guest]

--- Carol <csean@...> wrote:

> Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is

> another test that goes much further into it, that test is very

> expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but

> there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by

> doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves,

> dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something

> to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you

> spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog.

The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid

Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary

gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid

gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high

when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism)

and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone

levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually

only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your

doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a

diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose

the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a

more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive

compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here

charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would

imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway,

to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a

TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since

it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels

are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems.

Good luck!

C