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>I can REALLY appreciate what you went through with your thyroid

>because if I did not figure this out I could have easily had a heart

>attack.

>==>Why do you say heart attack?

Just due to my already elevated stress level.

>==>Lacto-fermented foods do not contain goitergens.

So I can eat the kraut AND drink the rejuvelac?

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> >I can REALLY appreciate what you went through with your thyroid

> >because if I did not figure this out I could have easily had a

heart

> >attack.

>

> >==>Why do you say heart attack?

>

> Just due to my already elevated stress level.

>

> >==>Lacto-fermented foods do not contain goitergens.

>

> So I can eat the kraut AND drink the rejuvelac?

==>Absolutely Shirley. I also do not think your problem is mainly

thryoid - check out Dr. Rind's list of symptoms comparing adrenal

fatigue to low thyroid at: http://www.drrind.com/scorecardmatrix.asp

However thinking can greatly influence things.

Luv, Bee

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I was just reading last night in Nourishing Traditions how healing

fish stock made with the heads is for thyroid. Anyone (Bee?) know how

this works with candida? Is it an acceptable " food " ?

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> I was just reading last night in Nourishing Traditions how healing

> fish stock made with the heads is for thyroid. Anyone (Bee?) know

how this works with candida? Is it an acceptable " food " ?

==>Hi. What is your name? Yes fish stock is very nutritious and an

acceptable food for candida sufferers!

Bee

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Hi Bee:

Sorry to post nameless before,it's and I'm a serious lurker.

Since I'm shopping for ingredients for stocks this weekend I thought

I'd ask about the fish stock!

>

> ==>Hi. What is your name? Yes fish stock is very nutritious and an

> acceptable food for candida sufferers!

>

> Bee

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Ok I had been on natural hormones from Florida for 3 years and kept gaining so

I asked the Dr. to put me on Synthroid. He did and gave me 0.125 then it just

did the same as the natural. So I was at the endro yesterday and she evaluated

my chart and it kept going up so she said that maybe I didnt need as much as I

was given. Which makes sense to me so now I have 100 mcg which I will take half

of it each day and see what it does to me. If its ok I'll keep doing that but

it I feel nervous or grouchy I'll go to the 100. I'll let you all know what

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>From: " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

>==>This program also causes fluctuations in other hormones, like thyroid,

>where the thyroid may

>go from low to high, but eventually it will level out too.

>

>Bee

Hi Bee,

Is there a timeline to this or will I be healed when I'm healed? I ask

because my hair is STILL falling out and I put on weight (am I the only one

to do this on your diet?) Some days I shed more than others so I assume this

to be the fluctuations to which you refer. I was 6 months into the plan when

my hair started falling out and it has been coming out for about 4 months, I

did deviate (which probably prolongs my healing) a few times in the last few

months. Also would it be wise to avoid the cruciferous veggies during this

time? I gave them up for about 2 months and that metal collar feeling around

my neck subsided. Now I do eat broccolli, cabbage, mustard, etc and I no

longer get that tight feeling around my neck so I know it is healing but can

you give me a guesstimate on the hair loss? Also I'm still off the lemons

because they made my hair fall out in piles. I just can't tolerate the

fructose, I miss the electrolyte drink too, it was really helping detoxify

me, I can feel the difference. Thanks for your input Bee and Merry

Christmas.

Shirley

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> Is there a timeline to this or will I be healed when I'm healed? I ask

> because my hair is STILL falling out and I put on weight (am I the

only one

> to do this on your diet?) Some days I shed more than others so I

assume this

> to be the fluctuations to which you refer. I was 6 months into the

plan when

> my hair started falling out and it has been coming out for about 4

months, I

> did deviate (which probably prolongs my healing) a few times in the

last few

> months.

Hi Shirley -

Just want you to know that I also have gained on the program and I

also have thyroid problems. I know it is due to that - I can tell

that my metabolism is sooo slow. Prior to all of this (the last 3

yrs.) I would have become skin and bones on this diet. Now my body

hangs on to everything. I also continue to lose hair - which started

3yrs ago when my thyroid problems started. I just figure all of these

things will resolve when the candida/thyroid problems resolve, but I

really can make no guesses how long it will take. You are not alone!

Trish

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> Hi Bee, Is there a timeline to this or will I be healed when I'm

healed? I ask because my hair is STILL falling out and I put on

weight (am I the only one to do this on your diet?)

==>Shirley, I am sure you are the only one who has had this happen.

> Some days I shed more than others so I assume this to be the

fluctuations to which you refer. I was 6 months into the plan when my

hair started falling out and it has been coming out for about 4

months, I did deviate (which probably prolongs my healing) a few

times in the last few months. Also would it be wise to avoid the

cruciferous veggies during this time?

==>You shouldn't avoid those veggies, but any goitergens in them are

eliminated if they are cooked or lacto-fermented, so do not eat them

raw. I believe I discussed this a few months ago - try a search of

our archives to find them using " goitergens " or some similar word.

>I gave them up for about 2 months and that metal collar feeling

around my neck subsided. Now I do eat broccolli, cabbage, mustard,

etc and I no longer get that tight feeling around my neck so I know

it is healing but can you give me a guesstimate on the hair loss?

Also I'm still off the lemons because they made my hair fall out in

piles. I just can't tolerate the fructose, I miss the electrolyte

drink too, it was really helping detoxify me, I can feel the

difference. Thanks for your input Bee and Merry Christmas.

>

==>You can still have the drink with only ocean sea salt - it would

be important that you get enough ocean sea salt for the iodine. Also

ensure you are eating plenty of butter too.

==>I'm sorry I cannot give you a guess,guesstimate of when your hair

will stop falling out. Are you using good shampoos, other body care

products, cleaning products, etc.? Are you sure you aren't being

constantly exposed to any toxins at work or at home?

Luv & Hugs, Bee

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>my hair is STILL falling out and I put on

>weight (am I the only one to do this on your diet?)

>

>==>Shirley, I am sure you are the only one who has had this happen.

figures....

>Also would it be wise to avoid the cruciferous veggies during this time?

>==>You shouldn't avoid those veggies, but any goitergens in them are

>eliminated if they are cooked or lacto-fermented, so do not eat them

>raw.

I will give up my homemade cole slaw then :+(

>Also I'm still off the lemons because they made my hair fall out in

>piles. I just can't tolerate the fructose, I miss the electrolyte

>drink too

>==>You can still have the drink with only ocean sea salt - it would

>be important that you get enough ocean sea salt for the iodine. Also

>ensure you are eating plenty of butter too.

I get enough celtic sea salt on my food (trust me). Why is the butter so

important? I go through phases when I eat more coconut oil than butter.

Butter seems to put the weight on too.

>==>Are you sure you aren't being constantly exposed to any toxins at work

>or at home?

No, there are toxins everywhere in my apartment; new carpeting, musty

basement, etc.

Thanks for the help Bee, maybe I'll ask Santa to intervene here ;+)

Shirley

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> > Is there a timeline to this or will I be healed when I'm healed? I ask

> > because my hair is STILL falling out and I put on weight (am I the

> > only one to do this on your diet?)

>Hi Shirley -

>

>Just want you to know that I also have gained on the program and I

>also have thyroid problems. I know it is due to that - I can tell

>that my metabolism is sooo slow. I also continue to lose hair - which

>started

>3yrs ago when my thyroid problems started. You are not alone!

>

>Trish

Thanks for your support Trish, this is very trying isn't it? Do your nails

all break or chip just by looking at them too? Do you take medication? At

this point I wish I could take Armour but I can not *prove* to my doctor

anything is wrong by my blood work. That has to be the most frustrating

part, he looks at me like I have three heads when I tell him " my cells are

rigid and the hormones are not getting in!!! " kinda funny actually. Even the

holistic practitioner in the area didn't " know " that one. Course he

recommends dairy, fruits, and nuts on his diet.......need I say more.

Shirley

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Bee: ==>You can still have the drink with only ocean sea salt - it

would be important that you get enough ocean sea salt for the

iodine. Also ensure you are eating plenty of butter too.

>

Shirley: I get enough celtic sea salt on my food (trust me). Why is

the butter so important? I go through phases when I eat more coconut

oil than butter. Butter seems to put the weight on too.

==>Shirley, I believe pasteurized butter is the problem with putting

on weight. Butter does have unique benefits - see the Butter Info in

our files (I think it is in the Candida Diet Folder; maybe in Fat

Facts).

>

> >==>Are you sure you aren't being constantly exposed to any toxins

at work or at home?

>

> No, there are toxins everywhere in my apartment; new carpeting,

musty basement, etc.

==>That's too bad. To lessen outgassing spinkle baking soda all over

the carpet, let it sit about 1/2 hour and then vaccum it up.

>

> Thanks for the help Bee, maybe I'll ask Santa to intervene here ;+)

==>I agree you should ask Santa. I hear that he's rewarding good

girls like you Shirley.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

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>

> I have a low thyroid - cold all the time, dry skin, hair falling

out, low body tempterature, etc. I read on this site that Coconut

Oil can help.

==>Hi Lynn. Yes coconut oil can help, but all of your symptoms

indicate you have candida. Diet and supplements are the most

important aspects of curing candida, please see my article " How to

Successfully Overcome Candida " and the other candida articles at my

new website (see address below).

>

> I used it in my eggs for Breakfast both yesterday & today.

Afterwards, I feel awful - headache, weak, tired, fuzzy, gassy, etc.

==>The reason you feel awful is because coconut oil is antifungal so

it is killing off candida which causes die-off symptoms. To

minimize symptoms cut back, starting with the amount recommended in

my article, and only gradually increase it. But you will need to do

the entire candida program.

==>Low thyroid is very common for candida sufferers because candida

toxins, which are mostly alcohol, make all of the body's cells go

rigid therefore 1) the thyroid is less capable of producing

hormones, 2) hormones that are produced are not getting in the cells

where they are needed to do their job because they are rigid.

==>I do not recommend trying to treat your thyroid directly because

it isn't the problem, candida is. When I cured my candida over 20

years ago my thryoid was tampered with too much, i.e. iodine,

dessicated thyroid pills and I acquire severe Grave's disease and

had to have it zapped with radiation. The thyroid can go into a

tizzy like mine did if overtreated. Also all forms of soy cause

thyroid problems. Once you cure candida the cells will not be rigid

anymore so things will normalize.

It is also important to eat a high ratio of natural saturated fats

like I recommend in my article, including butter, lard, fish fats

and oils, etc. because in order for cell membranes to be healthy

they need to be constructed out of 50% saturated fat (cells in the

lungs require 100% saturated fat).

Treat your whole body Lynn, and your thyroid will normalize.

The best in health, Bee

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> My Dearest Bee,

>

> How are you my friend? I am doing great!

==>Hey Shirley, my buddy my friend! I'm so happy to hear from you.

{So others know, Shirley was a moderator for our group for a long

time but she got a job promotion and moved.)

> The reason I'm writing is to tell you that I have finally healed my

thyroid and consequently YES!!!! MY HAIR HAS STOPPED FALLING

OUT!!!!!!! YEY!!!! It took ten long, grueling months and A LOT of

hair, but I did it.

==>That's absolutely awesome Shirley! Wow and wow!! I'm so happy

for you. I knew it would happen but it does take time!

> Also, after a one year absence, my period has come back; it is

extremely regular with minimal discomfort. To date I have been on

your program for 1 year and 3 months and I feel I still have a little

ways to go with my immune system to keep the candida in check. I know

this because the other day I had some raw snap peas and I got a

yeasty taste in my mouth a few hours after consuming them. I wanted

to try something different for a change and I thought those were

allowed?

==>Peas wouldn't be allowed - they are legumes which are high in

carbs and sugar. But pea pods are usually okay.

> Maybe I just ate too many. I am pleased to say that I am enjoying

my home made Kefir again; I started drinking it on my one year

anniversary and did not have any side effects, so I have stuck with

it happily. (You know how much I missed my Kefir Bee ;+)

==>That's wonderful Shirley. I'm so happy you can have it again -

doing without has been real tough for you. Yummy!

>

> One spectacular side effect of this diet is the lessoning of

> wrinkles, I am 41 and I look younger now than I did two years ago.

I had two deep, furrow lines in between my forehead and they are

gone now, also some of my crow's feet have softened as well. I was

> watching the news the other day and they were discussing how sugar

> reduces the elasticity of your cells, so with the elimination of

> sugar from your diet and all the good fats that Bee recommends you

> can not help but reverse the aging process. If you have any doubts

> just look at Bee's picture, the proof IS in the pudding or should I

> say the wrinkles are in the pudding ;+)

==>My, you've got nothing but great news and wins to report, eh?

That's fabulous! Looking younger is definitely needed and wanted for

all of us.

>

> I wish to be an inspiration for those of you out there struggling

> with your health, this is a long, hard, road but one that is surely

> worth your effort due to the spectacular results that await you. I

> believe that had I not embarked on this journey when I did that

some form of cancer was surely forthcoming in my future, not to

mention a bald head too. I plan on sticking with Bee's program for at

least another six months to make sure I'm healed inside and out and

then onto a slightly less strict maintenance plan for life.

==>You ARE definitely an inspiration Shirley! Didn't you also report

awhile ago that the enamel on your teeth formed and was nice and

smooth?

>

> Thanks and best wishes to you Bee and all the mods, I'll be in

touch with my next milestone.

==>Congratulations Shirley. All of your hard work and perseverance

is paying off. I'm so very proud of you. May I please post this in

our Success Stories?

Love, Bee

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Hi , this is . I was just wondering if Shirley is taking thyroid meds or if

the candida diet helped straighten out the thyroid malfunction??

Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> My Dearest Bee,

>

> How are you my friend? I am doing great!

==>Hey Shirley, my buddy my friend! I'm so happy to hear from you.

{So others know, Shirley was a moderator for our group for a long

time but she got a job promotion and moved.)

> The reason I'm writing is to tell you that I have finally healed my

thyroid and consequently YES!!!! MY HAIR HAS STOPPED FALLING

OUT!!!!!!! YEY!!!! It took ten long, grueling months and A LOT of

hair, but I did it.

==>That's absolutely awesome Shirley! Wow and wow!! I'm so happy

for you. I knew it would happen but it does take time!

> Also, after a one year absence, my period has come back; it is

extremely regular with minimal discomfort. To date I have been on

your program for 1 year and 3 months and I feel I still have a little

ways to go with my immune system to keep the candida in check. I know

this because the other day I had some raw snap peas and I got a

yeasty taste in my mouth a few hours after consuming them. I wanted

to try something different for a change and I thought those were

allowed?

==>Peas wouldn't be allowed - they are legumes which are high in

carbs and sugar. But pea pods are usually okay.

> Maybe I just ate too many. I am pleased to say that I am enjoying

my home made Kefir again; I started drinking it on my one year

anniversary and did not have any side effects, so I have stuck with

it happily. (You know how much I missed my Kefir Bee ;+)

==>That's wonderful Shirley. I'm so happy you can have it again -

doing without has been real tough for you. Yummy!

>

> One spectacular side effect of this diet is the lessoning of

> wrinkles, I am 41 and I look younger now than I did two years ago.

I had two deep, furrow lines in between my forehead and they are

gone now, also some of my crow's feet have softened as well. I was

> watching the news the other day and they were discussing how sugar

> reduces the elasticity of your cells, so with the elimination of

> sugar from your diet and all the good fats that Bee recommends you

> can not help but reverse the aging process. If you have any doubts

> just look at Bee's picture, the proof IS in the pudding or should I

> say the wrinkles are in the pudding ;+)

==>My, you've got nothing but great news and wins to report, eh?

That's fabulous! Looking younger is definitely needed and wanted for

all of us.

>

> I wish to be an inspiration for those of you out there struggling

> with your health, this is a long, hard, road but one that is surely

> worth your effort due to the spectacular results that await you. I

> believe that had I not embarked on this journey when I did that

some form of cancer was surely forthcoming in my future, not to

mention a bald head too. I plan on sticking with Bee's program for at

least another six months to make sure I'm healed inside and out and

then onto a slightly less strict maintenance plan for life.

==>You ARE definitely an inspiration Shirley! Didn't you also report

awhile ago that the enamel on your teeth formed and was nice and

smooth?

>

> Thanks and best wishes to you Bee and all the mods, I'll be in

touch with my next milestone.

==>Congratulations Shirley. All of your hard work and perseverance

is paying off. I'm so very proud of you. May I please post this in

our Success Stories?

Love, Bee

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Hi, here... CONGRATULATIONS, Shirley !!!!

Just wondering if you can elaborate on what the enamel problem was... and

what results you got...

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--- Grier <susanpgrier@...> wrote:

> Hi , this is . I was just wondering if Shirley

> is taking thyroid meds or if the candida diet helped

> straighten out the thyroid malfunction??

I don't know what Shirley's situation is but I've been

meaning to share the lab results I got back last

month. Been way too busy lately!

When I started Bee's diet my TSH was at 3.7, and it's

now at 1.8. I don't take any medications at all, just

follow Bee's diet and take the supplements. So for

sure this diet can help your thyroid!

Luv,

Debby

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Debby, Did you have hair loss when your TSH was so high?? That is great!! Does

this help adrenal problems too?

Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

--- Grier <susanpgrier@...> wrote:

> Hi , this is . I was just wondering if Shirley

> is taking thyroid meds or if the candida diet helped

> straighten out the thyroid malfunction??

I don't know what Shirley's situation is but I've been

meaning to share the lab results I got back last

month. Been way too busy lately!

When I started Bee's diet my TSH was at 3.7, and it's

now at 1.8. I don't take any medications at all, just

follow Bee's diet and take the supplements. So for

sure this diet can help your thyroid!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

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Most people won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the pain of

change. Being willing to delay pleasure for a greater result is a sign of

maturity. -- Dave Ramsey

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

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Hi Shirley!

It's great to hear from you and to hear of how well you're feeling!

You Go Girl!

jackie

>

>

> I wish to be an inspiration for those of you out there struggling

> with your health, this is a long, hard, road but one that is surely

> worth your effort due to the spectacular results that await you. I

> believe that had I not embarked on this journey when I did that some

> form of cancer was surely forthcoming in my future, not to mention a

> bald head too. I plan on sticking with Bee's program for at least

> another six months to make sure I'm healed inside and out and then

> onto a slightly less strict maintenance plan for life.

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--- Grier <susanpgrier@...> wrote:

> Debby, Did you have hair loss when your TSH was so

> high?? That is great!! Does this help adrenal

> problems too?

Other than trouble losing weight I did not have any

issues like fatigue or low body temps so I haven't

noticed a difference other than what shows on the

labs. I do have a lot more energy but I wasn't sleepy

before, just had a lot of trouble hulking my

considerable weight around understandably.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

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Most people won't change until the pain of where they are exceeds the pain of

change. Being willing to delay pleasure for a greater result is a sign of

maturity. -- Dave Ramsey

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Heal yourself with nutrition: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

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> ==>Peas wouldn't be allowed - they are legumes which are high in

> carbs and sugar. But pea pods are usually okay.

Ahhhh, here lies the confusion, pea pods as opposed to snap peas,

got it!

> ==>My, you've got nothing but great news and wins to report, eh?

> That's fabulous! Looking younger is definitely needed and wanted

>for all of us.

Bee I forgot to mention the disappearance of my black circles and

how white the whites of my eyes are now too! As unpleasant as this

is, enemas are the reason. No one likes to do them but they made a

HUGE difference for me in cleaning out my liver, I just wish I

didn't wait so long before I started doing them, oh well.

> ==>You ARE definitely an inspiration Shirley! Didn't you also

>report awhile ago that the enamel on your teeth formed and was nice

>and smooth?

Yes Bee, I regenerated new enamel where I had scrubbed it away years

ago, and had the worst sensitivity you could imagine. The dentists

NEVER tell you that you can regenerate enamel but I did!!!!! This is

my favorite thing to tell people ;+)

> ==>Congratulations Shirley. All of your hard work and

>perseverance is paying off. I'm so very proud of you. May I

>please post this in our Success Stories?

> Love, Bee

Of course my friend!

Love,

Shirley

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> Hi , this is . I was just wondering if Shirley is taking

thyroid meds or if the candida diet helped straighten out the

thyroid malfunction??

Hi ,

No I did not take any thyroid meds, my blood work never showed an

imbalance (rigid cells) even though I had dry, cracked skin, a

hoarse voice, mega hair loss, coarse dry hair, no sex drive, stopped

period, weight gain, you get the picture. There were times that I

wanted desperately to take anything just to get my hair to stop

falling out but I couldn't get a script because I couldn't *prove*

there was a problem. Bee just kept on telling me that my thyroid

WOULD heal though, so I persevered, and voila, it has! Hang in there

, it will heal.

Shirley

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> Hi, here... CONGRATULATIONS, Shirley !!!!

> Just wondering if you can elaborate on what the enamel problem

was... and

> what results you got...

Hi ,

I was a rather voracious tooth brusher and consequently I scrubbed

alot of the enamel right off my teeth. I had severe sensitivity to

the point that I had two un-necessary root canals done. I started

Bee's diet in Feb of 06 and I was using alot of gelatin over the

summer and by last Sept I noticed that I had re-generated all new

enamel where I had brushed it off. Bee thinks it was the lack of

sugar and good diet but I am convinced it was the gelatin. Either

way I am estatic because I thought that I was going to have to

tolerate this sensitivity for the rest of my life, NOT!!!!

Shirley

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>

> Hi Shirley!

>

> It's great to hear from you and to hear of how well you're feeling!

> You Go Girl!

>

> jackie

Hi Jackie,

I can not believe how good I feel now, I was ready to roll over and

die a year ago and now I am running circles around people half my

age!!!! Gotta be the coconut oil ;+) How are you doing?

Shirley

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>

> Hi Jackie,

>

> I can not believe how good I feel now, I was ready to roll over and

> die a year ago and now I am running circles around people half my

> age!!!! Gotta be the coconut oil ;+) How are you doing?

Hi Shirely,

It's great to hear you sounding so energetic and to have you back

posting with us again. Your success story will give people a lift for

sure. I'm doing fantastic, thanks for asking!

jackie

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