Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 --- Carol <csean@...> wrote: > Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is > another test that goes much further into it, that test is very > expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but > there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by > doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, > dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something > to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you > spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism) and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway, to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems. Good luck! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Thank you Claudine.....that is exactly what I meant.....a thyroid panel test. I'm so glad we have you cuz I couldn't verbalize it to where it made any sense. In Canada we only do the TSH test (according to my doc) unless the TSH test has severe changes.....or there is a valid reason for doing a panel....obviously requesting the test is not a valid reason. That's what I mean about socialized medicine, they have cut so many hospital beds, laid off nurses etc. that got so critical during a strike that it pushed elective surgeries back to 6 or more months. I guess if a person in Canada needs surgery, we should get hit by a bus first....or burst our own appendix. I'm just glad my thyroid funtion is ok. Off my soap box and I bow the queen of knowledge. ;-) Huggggs Carol Re: thyroid --- Carol <csean@...> wrote: > Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is > another test that goes much further into it, that test is very > expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but > there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by > doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, > dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something > to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you > spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism) and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway, to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems. Good luck! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 Thank you Claudine.....that is exactly what I meant.....a thyroid panel test. I'm so glad we have you cuz I couldn't verbalize it to where it made any sense. In Canada we only do the TSH test (according to my doc) unless the TSH test has severe changes.....or there is a valid reason for doing a panel....obviously requesting the test is not a valid reason. That's what I mean about socialized medicine, they have cut so many hospital beds, laid off nurses etc. that got so critical during a strike that it pushed elective surgeries back to 6 or more months. I guess if a person in Canada needs surgery, we should get hit by a bus first....or burst our own appendix. I'm just glad my thyroid funtion is ok. Off my soap box and I bow the queen of knowledge. ;-) Huggggs Carol Re: thyroid --- Carol <csean@...> wrote: > Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is > another test that goes much further into it, that test is very > expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but > there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by > doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, > dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something > to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you > spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism) and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway, to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems. Good luck! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Don't think this message is meant for me...I am hypothyroid but it's well under control and tests are run frequently. Lost my thyroid during my first round of treatment and if my TSH gets over 2.0 I know it and get my blood pulled to check on it. So unless this was meant for me because I asked how they knew your thyroid and TSH were normal if they hadn't done a test, it's meant for someone else. Tatezi Re: thyroid Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is another test that goes much further into it, that test is very expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Don't think this message is meant for me...I am hypothyroid but it's well under control and tests are run frequently. Lost my thyroid during my first round of treatment and if my TSH gets over 2.0 I know it and get my blood pulled to check on it. So unless this was meant for me because I asked how they knew your thyroid and TSH were normal if they hadn't done a test, it's meant for someone else. Tatezi Re: thyroid Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is another test that goes much further into it, that test is very expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Okay everyone...this message still isn't meant for me so I hope whoever might need their thyroid tested reads all messages on this subject. My thyroid is well monitored by County... Re: thyroid > Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism) and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway, to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems. Good luck! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Okay everyone...this message still isn't meant for me so I hope whoever might need their thyroid tested reads all messages on this subject. My thyroid is well monitored by County... Re: thyroid > Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, The test you are probably thinking about is the TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). This hormone is produced in the pituitary gland, and does just what it sounds like - it stimulates the thyroid gland to produce more hormones as needed. This level tends to be high when the thyroid gland is under-producing hormones (hypothyroidism) and will run low when the thyroid gland is producing too high hormone levels (hyperthyroidism). It is actually a very cheap test (usually only a few dollars), and it may be that THIS is the only test your doctor is doing. While a TSH test can be fine for monitoring a diagnosed and treated thyroid condition, it is inadequate to diagnose the problem. The Thyroid Panel (which checks T-3 and T-4 levels) is a more expensive test, although I wouldn't really call it expensive compared to the cost of some tests! I think the price my lab here charges me (MY cost, not patient cost) is around $75.00. I would imagine your government would be paying a much lower price. Anyway, to accurately diagnose a thyroid problem a FULL thyroid panel AND a TSH are must haves. To only run a TSH is bad medical practice since it can be in the normal range even if actual thryoid hormone levels are are off, especially in sub-clinical thyroid problems. Good luck! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 Yeah Tats....I was trying to answer your question but of course Claudine did a much better job. Re: thyroid Hi Tats....they do the blood test for thyroid levels, but there is another test that goes much further into it, that test is very expensive I guess. A lot of people have normal blood levels but there is still an underlying problem that can only be found by doing that test....I think (but am not sure) that it involves, dammmm just got brain fog....can't think of the name, but something to do with the pituatary gland. (sp), the one at the base of you spine? Don't I sound knowledgable....I hate brain fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 But, how can they say there is no thyroid problem if they don't test your thyroid? Re: thyroid Yeah Tats....I was trying to answer your question but of course Claudine did a much better job. ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 They just do the TSH and rely on that....I just know my doc said I didn't need a thyroid panel done. Maybe since the numbers went up slightly is the reason I'm feeling so much better....I know you like yours in the low range....but something has made me feel better physically for almost 7 weeks now. I almost feel " normal " again. Could be cuz I cut down on scripts for sleeping....I dunno but I do feel so much better. Maybe it's the calm before the storm? Hope not. Carol Re: thyroid Yeah Tats....I was trying to answer your question but of course Claudine did a much better job. ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Usually I only have TSHs run with an annual panel. That is when I'm not on treatment...when on treatment it's a whole nuther ball game and now that I'm off treatment we'll have to closely watch labs to monitor whether of not I need a synthroid adjustment. But usually I know when things are off. Yeah, the sleeping meds or lack of could have a lot to do with how you are feeling. Too many sleeping meds stay with us and make us fuzzy during the day. But now there are meds that don't drag into the next day. Tatezi Re: thyroid They just do the TSH and rely on that....I just know my doc said I didn't need a thyroid panel done. Maybe since the numbers went up slightly is the reason I'm feeling so much better....I know you like yours in the low range....but something has made me feel better physically for almost 7 weeks now. I almost feel " normal " again. Could be cuz I cut down on scripts for sleeping....I dunno but I do feel so much better. Maybe it's the calm before the storm? Hope not. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Wow Bee, UGH! I believe that candida is wrapped up in my thyroid problems, just as you say, and I found your story very interesting. There is much I don't know about candida. I've never run across a good " list " with all the symptoms that it can cause. If you have one, please forgive me, cause I haven't stumbled across it yet, and I'm not all that good with computers, lol. Your story was so amazing. I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and it is where my body see my thyroid as an " enemy " (virus, etc) and developes antibodies to destroy it. I go from hyper to hypo with this. As my body attacks my thyroid, it is destroying it so I too, will have to be on thyroid meds the rest of my life. Sad. I'm hoping that by solving the candida problem perhaps I won't have to have my thyroid out or zapped. Who knows? But I found your post very helpful. Thank you so much!!! love, ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Hi, I'm glad my story helped you. As you cure the candida your body will stop attacking your thyroid and your thyroid will normalize again. You can get well by doing the candida program I recommend, but don't overtreat your thyroid at this point in time. Allow the candida program to do its job. Bee > Wow Bee, UGH! I believe that candida is wrapped up in my thyroid problems, just as you > say, and I found your story very interesting. There is much I don't know about candida. > I've never run across a good " list " with all the symptoms that it can cause. If you have one, > please forgive me, cause I haven't stumbled across it yet, and I'm not all that good with > computers, lol. > > Your story was so amazing. I have Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and it is where my body see > my thyroid as an " enemy " (virus, etc) and developes antibodies to destroy it. I go from > hyper to hypo with this. As my body attacks my thyroid, it is destroying it so I too, will > have to be on thyroid meds the rest of my life. Sad. I'm hoping that by solving the > candida problem perhaps I won't have to have my thyroid out or zapped. Who knows? > But I found your post very helpful. Thank you so much!!! > > love, > ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 > Synthroid is a synthetic thyroid hormone replacement only obtainable by > prescription. It is made up of thyroxine (T4) and tri-iodothyronine > (T3) > Since the thyroid gland turns thyroxine into triiodothyronine I would > think > anyone without a thyroid gland would need both. If I were her I would > ask > my doctor why just the thyroxine. It is my understanding that Synthroid consists only of T4, the thyroxine. Theoretically your body uses it to create all the T3 you need -- but that ain't necessarily so. I have an under-active thyroid and have taken medication for over two decades. I currently take Levothroid (another form of thyroxine) because an early endocrinologist believed it was more consistent in dosage than the Synthroid. I also take Cytomel, which is the T3 portion. Adding the T3 along with the T4, which I took exclusively for years, provided immediate benefits -- particularly in the mental portion of thyroid symptoms (depression). I believe the T3 is immediately available when you take it but the T4 is not. There is an excellent website devoted to things thyroid led by Shomon: http://thyroid.about.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Thanks . Re: Thyroid > Synthroid is a synthetic thyroid hormone replacement only obtainable by > prescription. It is made up of thyroxine (T4) and tri-iodothyronine > (T3) > Since the thyroid gland turns thyroxine into triiodothyronine I would > think > anyone without a thyroid gland would need both. If I were her I would > ask > my doctor why just the thyroxine. It is my understanding that Synthroid consists only of T4, the thyroxine. Theoretically your body uses it to create all the T3 you need -- but that ain't necessarily so. I have an under-active thyroid and have taken medication for over two decades. I currently take Levothroid (another form of thyroxine) because an early endocrinologist believed it was more consistent in dosage than the Synthroid. I also take Cytomel, which is the T3 portion. Adding the T3 along with the T4, which I took exclusively for years, provided immediate benefits -- particularly in the mental portion of thyroid symptoms (depression). I believe the T3 is immediately available when you take it but the T4 is not. There is an excellent website devoted to things thyroid led by Shomon: http://thyroid.about.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hey there - I found the thyroid is directly connected to stress - If you work the programs with your qxci I think you will find Results & improvement - I have .. I do eat soy - I feel we need it moderation, and with moderation it does have many health benefits... Don't forget you could put thyroid in on the " acute item " below on the Test page and you can test against thyroid to get info. about what Issues are connected with it - ie, mental, causal, etheric, & cure.. Maybe it will help to research your thyroid situation a bit deeper.. Maggie THYROID The body themperature in Europe is :36.8 C If was 37C,then we do not went to schoo,because we already had some " temperature going to go up " I know in USA says 37C is the base line.But that in F is so much difference.So the normal is in F are: 97.8 These make so much difference! What says is pose to,is already the lovest mark on Hyperthyroid and mot Hypothyroid.Anyways waht is normal concentring thyroid function on temperature levels??? I have all His books.My friend was on His program/actually need to use natural doctors by recomendations.Charge so much.But Dr as these sicness acording only Him.Som natural book listing Him.In my opponium IS TOTAL FEAK. I myself do have low thyroid tendency.If You drink tea made with the humble Glove /what everybody has in the cabinet/i do not believed but the temperature went up to 99,8F More then once,as allways.Withouth tea I was happy for 97.8 the bottom what is not low thyroid.thyroid function is the hardest to mesure.wit A, B12 ,L Thyrosine = Iron allways needed.i have the latest researche: The soybeen and all deravatives destroying tyroid productions.I have Dr Whitaker IPRIFLAVONE tablets,and I took .I made an thyroid exam by mail in $45 from drugstore.My T3-T4 was 425% /fourhundredfive/the normal is 15-20%.They called me because they newer see these high.when I told them what I will do the said beatween 2 nurse: these kind of people is the worst/as me/So I was laky because my mail in magazine http://www.teslatech.info had these article.i was so happy ,because I do know what was wrong with me.The ipriflavone is SoyIsoflavone.i think maybe perfect for conditions as Hyperthyroid. if You do not believe me Soy is in everything ,all bread has.NEVER IN USA has these very very fat peoples.My oponion because soy destroys thyroid hormone and functions.If you think china 7Japan just used as contiments and fermented.I myself even bought a very nice soymilk maker mashine.But now just making rice-milk and almond milk/take of the skin. i am Ok now.gyorgyi ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hi Patty, My first autoimmune condition diagnosed was Grave's Disease. I was put on Synthroid after 2 doses of the radioactive iodine pills. My levels kept going up and down, and my dosage was constantly being adjusted. I told my PCP at the time that I felt like a yo-yo and asked for a referral to an endo, which he refused to do. My PCP was a jerk and was fired from the group he worked in. My new PCP immediately sent me to an endo who switched me to Levoxyl. The difference is incredible. Almost immediately I started feeling better, and I have not had to adjust my dose since 2002. He said the problem was Synthroid did not make the dosage I needed. Sandy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Patty I have thyroid problems also and I also go back and forth on my meds. My dosage was increased from 112mcg to 125mcg. After 2 months my levels went up so they lowered my dosage back to 112mcg. I was told that to high is as bad as to low so they always try to keep me at a certian level. I get blood work every 6 months unless they have changed my dosage and then it's every 2 weeks until stable. Hope this helps the WV hillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/05 9:17:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: > Apparently my thyroid levels are low and I've been told I should get a > > thyroid hormone to raise them. Anyone know anything about this? If my > > thyroid levels are low, should I consider getting this treatment? What > are > > the side effects? Is there any way to raise them naturally? This could have been caused by the Zoloft. Before I took any synthetic drugs, I'd look into natural ways to correct it first -- check out organic, virgin coconut oil. Lots on the web about how it regulates thyroid function. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/05 9:17:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: > Apparently my thyroid levels are low and I've been told I should get a > > thyroid hormone to raise them. Anyone know anything about this? If my > > thyroid levels are low, should I consider getting this treatment? What > are > > the side effects? Is there any way to raise them naturally? This could have been caused by the Zoloft. Before I took any synthetic drugs, I'd look into natural ways to correct it first -- check out organic, virgin coconut oil. Lots on the web about how it regulates thyroid function. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I feel quite certain that all of the SSRIs I took screwed up my thyroid and adrenals. I have been changing my diet and whole approach to stress in my life - may even change jobs to reduce the latter. At any rate, I am no where near as energetic as I was pre- SSRIs and exercise causes more pain than I ever had before. It makes sense to me that thyroid levels can be negatively impacted by SSRIs - that would explain why people gain a lot of weight on them even though their eating habits don't change. > In a message dated 3/19/05 9:17:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > Apparently my thyroid levels are low and I've been told I should get a > > > thyroid hormone to raise them. Anyone know anything about this? If my > > > thyroid levels are low, should I consider getting this treatment? What > > are > > > the side effects? Is there any way to raise them naturally? > > This could have been caused by the Zoloft. Before I took any synthetic > drugs, I'd look into natural ways to correct it first -- check out organic, virgin > coconut oil. Lots on the web about how it regulates thyroid function. > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I feel quite certain that all of the SSRIs I took screwed up my thyroid and adrenals. I have been changing my diet and whole approach to stress in my life - may even change jobs to reduce the latter. At any rate, I am no where near as energetic as I was pre- SSRIs and exercise causes more pain than I ever had before. It makes sense to me that thyroid levels can be negatively impacted by SSRIs - that would explain why people gain a lot of weight on them even though their eating habits don't change. > In a message dated 3/19/05 9:17:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, > SSRI medications writes: > > > > Apparently my thyroid levels are low and I've been told I should get a > > > thyroid hormone to raise them. Anyone know anything about this? If my > > > thyroid levels are low, should I consider getting this treatment? What > > are > > > the side effects? Is there any way to raise them naturally? > > This could have been caused by the Zoloft. Before I took any synthetic > drugs, I'd look into natural ways to correct it first -- check out organic, virgin > coconut oil. Lots on the web about how it regulates thyroid function. > > " Blind Reason " > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's > Unsafe At Any Dose > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 I read the thyroid article Bee posted with great interest! Over the years, when I've gone to a medical practitioner for various and sundry complaints, thyroid was always the first culprit under suspicion, but invariably the tests come back with levels within the normal range (though it appears my most recent TSH level is at the very high end of the new normal). I've always been told these tests are exceedingly sensitive, so I never bothered to research hypothyroidism myself. And this suggested connection between candida and thyroid problems sounds, intuitively, compelling to me, though it's not entirely clear to me exactly how candida is making the thyroid malfunction. But after reading this article, I have a couple of questions, which I'll try to keep brief so as not to create dysbiosis for the digesters (ha). 1. In the article, the author says goitrogens are to be avoided and identifies soybeans as one of these, but whenever soy is decried, I often think about the parts of Asia where soy products have been a staple of the diet for many years. She suggests that they aren't a problem in the Asian diet because they are typically eaten in a fermented form. I'm assuming most people here following Bee's diet have sworn off soy entirely, but I'm wondering if anyone includes fermented soy products in their diet. Also, since the vast majority of soy products sold in the U.S. are made with genetically engineered soybeans, I'm wondering if that's, perhaps, the crux of the problem (or the crux of some problem). Maybe all phytoestrogens are not created equal? Also, isn't broccoli a goitrogen? Does raw broccoli interfere with thyroid function? I'm a big broccoli, brussels sprouts, and kale consumer, but broccoli is the only one of these I consume raw. 2. In the article's discussion of coconut oil, refined oil is defined as oil that is at least partially hydrogenated. But Spectrum's refined coconut oil claims on the jar to have no hydrogenated fat. What would " refined " mean in this case? 3. When someone says she " takes " a tablespoon of coconut oil a day, I always wonder: does this mean she's eating it straight from the spoon, cooking with it, spreading it on something? How are most of you " taking " coconut oil? Straight up? (The article mentioned using it in smoothies and on toast, ways anyone not yet free of the candida scourge would likely eschew.) I have a few other questions not related to thyroid that I'll post separately. Thanks! Kellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 In a message dated 1/11/2006 4:20:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, SSRI medications writes: I eat a healthy breakfast like yogurt and a bagel or fruit, Bagel = BAD!!!!!!! Too many carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 better if it's a whole grains bagel ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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