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Report post · October 29, 1999

Margareta

Hi and welcome to the group....We always hate it when someone needs to join

but we are glad that at least we are hear for you...With out these groups

dealing with any illness is very hard...I'm the mother of a 17yr old son who

has AIH and PSC...He was diagnosed with these this past April....He also has

Crohns Disease and Rhuematoid ARthritis...diagnosed at 10....He has been thru

alot...but with a mixture of meds and great doctors he is doing well....His

liver counts are good and he is finally down to lab work being done every

month instead of every week for the last 1 1/2 yrs...

There are alot of people here to help you...and for you to just get things

out....We all understand here....something even the best of friends can't

do....

Hope to talk to you soon...Good luck with your biopsy on the 1st...I'll be

thinking of you....

Luanne Ty's mom

Report post · October 30, 1999

Do you know the name of the bowel cleanse and the herbs you took to get rid

of candida? I am currently taking acidophilis, yeast cleanse (caprylic acid,

pau d'arco, grapefruit seed extract, tea tree oil, and garlic), and one more,

parasite formula (black walnut hull, cloves, and wormwood). I have severe

food sensitivities and have just started this regiment this week. I was told

and did a lot of research and it seems to get rid of candida you have to get

rid of the parasites. I was wondering if that is what you accomplished with

the bowel cleanse? Also prior to starting this program I had a colonic done.

As you can see this is all new to me and I have been searching the web and

looking at different sites to learn more.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

brenda

Report post · October 30, 1999

<snip> If there is anyone out there who has recovered - how long did it take

and do you still avoid sugar and fruit? Just looking for the end of this

very long tunnel.Crystal in Chicago

I was originally on the diet for 8 weeks and then tried to re-introduce the

" bad " foods slowly - my symptoms came back and then some! So I kept on the

diet for another 4 weeks and tried again - again I had the symptoms - so I

talked to another nutritionist who put me on a bowel cleanse and herbal program

After 2 weeks I could eat bread again, another week and I was eating fruits!

AND now I've even eaten desert on occasion without too much trouble! So yes,

there is definitely hope.

Report post · October 30, 1999

katherine,

Please see this site for info. http://www.candidaprogram.com

I have been searching for answers and the cure for many years. I am getting

on this program next week. Dr. Macfarland is the only practitioner that has

given me references of people that have been cured and can now live a normal

life. I spoke to 10 people and they all said the same thing, the program

works.

In Health,

Robin in NC

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>From: kathlyc@...

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><snip> If there is anyone out there who has recovered - how long did it

take

>and do you still avoid sugar and fruit? Just looking for the end of this

>very long tunnel.Crystal in Chicago

>

>I was originally on the diet for 8 weeks and then tried to re-introduce the

> " bad " foods slowly - my symptoms came back and then some! So I kept on the

>diet for another 4 weeks and tried again - again I had the symptoms - so I

>talked to another nutritionist who put me on a bowel cleanse and herbal

program

>After 2 weeks I could eat bread again, another week and I was eating

fruits!

>AND now I've even eaten desert on occasion without too much trouble! So

yes, there is definitely hope.

>

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Report post · October 30, 1999

: I started 1 1/2 yrs ago. i had the candida in my blood stream, which

is worse, also micro parasites. My Dr. tests the urine, stool & hormones

monthly to see how the toxins are lessening, that is how he can tell. we now

have it out of the blood stream & body as well. the toxins have shown up 0

now for 3 months, BUT......he said i may have the sugar intolerance still,

which i do, & all my other food sensitivities, but i know i am not feeding

the Candida. we are building up my immune system now, your meds. sounds good,

we rotated our every 4 days so as to trick the candida, which is very smart.

if your hormones are off, the candida can grow rapidly, i am taking extra

hormones, but there again you need to get this checked.mine were very low. i

feel better than i have in years, i just need to leave the sugar alone. were

all different, i can't eat fresh fruit, but i can now & than if it is

cooked.! Good Luck! God Bless You & all of us with this disease! try to be

patient, do the diet well & you'll do fine! Mogdrmom

Report post · October 30, 1999

Trying not to be a pest here but how did you trick the candida every four

days? Again this is still new to me and trying to put the pieces together.

I went to my gp and they said they didn't even know of a test for candida. I

know one exists and suspect it is in my bloodstream, also. I am one sick

puppy. My food intolerences are so bad I can only eat vegetables, and some

chicken. Most everything else makes me very sick.

Most supplements, except for the acidophilis make me worse, also but I have

to tough it out to get rid of the candida.

thanks

brenda

Report post · October 30, 1999

That is great how the olive leaf extract cleared up your candida and your

ankle problem. As I have been reading about candidas I have come across

several articles that say it does cause inflammations to be more bothersome.

This explains why yours has pretty much cleared up. I also read that it

aggravates such things as atheletes food problems.

I did check out the website and the cost is about 27.00 US money. This is

something worth checking into.

Thanks for the great advice

Report post · October 30, 1999

,

I too am a new member and shared with the group my experience with an Olive

Leaf Extract that is very therapeutic. The product is d-LENOLATE or East

Park Olive Leaf Extract. I started taking it last July at the dosage of 6

capsules a day, I was so pleased with how I felt that I uped it to 8 and now

have cut back to 4 or 6 a day. I have noticed so many improvements in my

health that I don't know where to begin. Firestl the abdominal pains,

bloating, food sensitivities, indigestation, ect. have disappeared. I can

even eat foods that were previously taboo. Not only has my Candida problems

cleared up but other disiases as well. I used to have a chronic Athlete's

foot problem and some other fungui on top of one of my toes that I could

never get rid of, there is no traces of that now. I also have a problem with

my anckles, short akilies tendon, which causes a colaps of the joint. My

right anckle is the worst, for years I used to take pain killers for this

and anti inflamitories. Several years ago I got off the pain killers and

anti inflamitories by changing my diet, but the inflamination and damage was

still there along with some pain. Not only is the inflamation almost all

gone but the damage which I find difficult to discribe (brusing,

discoloration, and purple blood spots) is almost back to normal. Some pain

is still there as the physical problem is still there. The specialists have

tryed to get me to have an opperation for years. The last time I went to see

my GP I showed him my anckle and told him about what I was experiencing . I

even gave him a copy of the book by Dr. Morton on Olive Leaf

Extract. Some friends and I who take olive leaf extract for a variety of

problems purchase it by the case to keep the cost down. These people have a

lot of information on their website, and seem to focus on Candidiasis

www.otrecure.com I hope this helps.

,

Re: RE: new member

> From: 1005@...

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> Trying not to be a pest here but how did you trick the candida every four

> days? Again this is still new to me and trying to put the pieces

together.

>

> I went to my gp and they said they didn't even know of a test for candida.

I

> know one exists and suspect it is in my bloodstream, also. I am one sick

> puppy. My food intolerences are so bad I can only eat vegetables, and

some

> chicken. Most everything else makes me very sick.

>

> Most supplements, except for the acidophilis make me worse, also but I

have

> to tough it out to get rid of the candida.

>

> thanks

> brenda

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Report post · October 30, 1999

I worry about the hormone replacement theraphy as it can cause cancer if not

regulated right. Myra

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> From: MogdrMom@...

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> : I started 1 1/2 yrs ago. i had the candida in my blood stream,

which

> is worse, also micro parasites. My Dr. tests the urine, stool & hormones

> monthly to see how the toxins are lessening, that is how he can tell. we

now

> have it out of the blood stream & body as well. the toxins have shown up 0

> now for 3 months, BUT......he said i may have the sugar intolerance still,

> which i do, & all my other food sensitivities, but i know i am not feeding

> the Candida. we are building up my immune system now, your meds. sounds

good,

> we rotated our every 4 days so as to trick the candida, which is very

smart.

> if your hormones are off, the candida can grow rapidly, i am taking extra

> hormones, but there again you need to get this checked.mine were very low.

i

> feel better than i have in years, i just need to leave the sugar alone.

were

> all different, i can't eat fresh fruit, but i can now & than if it is

> cooked.! Good Luck! God Bless You & all of us with this disease! try to

be

> patient, do the diet well & you'll do fine! Mogdrmom

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Report post · October 30, 1999

: on the rotation plan, you have more than one medication (herbs) to

take but for 4 days you take one bunch (2) than change to another fungal

killer for 4 days than go back & keep repeating till you get tested again &

possibly change meds again.there are quite a number of yeast killing

combinations out there. it worked for me! Mogdrmom I use Oreganol Oil

& Extra Virgin Olive Oil & mix together & get a massage with it. not bad

smelling if you like to smell like spaghetti!!! LOL! LOL!

Report post · October 30, 1999

I am sorry this doesn't make sense to me. With the inflamation part.

Please explain. Myra

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> From: 1005@...

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> That is great how the olive leaf extract cleared up your candida and your

> ankle problem. As I have been reading about candidas I have come across

> several articles that say it does cause inflammations to be more

bothersome.

> This explains why yours has pretty much cleared up. I also read that it

> aggravates such things as atheletes food problems..

>

> I did check out the website and the cost is about 27.00 US money. This is

> something worth checking into..

>

> Thanks for the great advice

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Report post · October 30, 1999

Myra,

The inflammation didn't have anything to do with my candida, I don't think.

However my physical condition with my ankles causes tendon damage to the

ankle joint. That damage resulted in some microbe taking over and resulted

in inflammation and discoloring of the ankle. The olive leaf extract

attacked and killed whatever pathogenic microbe was causing the inflammation

and has allowed my body to restore good health to my ankle joint at least it

is looking a hole lot better and seems to be improving weekly. The tendon

problem still exists and I am trying to do the exercises I refused to do as

a child to stretch the tendon. The olive leaf extract is a broad spectrum

antibiotic that attacks and kills viruses, bacteria, fungi, yeast, mold, and

some parasites. In doing so it has cleared up a host of little annoying

problems I had and my energy levels are up unbelievably.

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> > From: 1005@...

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> > That is great how the olive leaf extract cleared up your candida and

your

> > ankle problem. As I have been reading about candidas I have come across

> > several articles that say it does cause inflammations to be more

> bothersome.

> > This explains why yours has pretty much cleared up. I also read that it

> > aggravates such things as atheletes food problems..

> >

> > I did check out the website and the cost is about 27.00 US money. This

is

> > something worth checking into..

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Report post · October 31, 1999

Mogdrmom

Funny you should mention the rotation program. I was taking acidophilis

starting 10/23/99 and yesterday it started to " quit " working. Today it did

nothing so I took the yeast cleanse (garlic, grapefruit seed extract,

caprylic acid, tea tree oil, and pau d'arco tea).

I had read that for some people the only way to get rid of candida is the

rotation program. The same you suggested. Four days on and then four days

off. I read that candida can build up a tolerance very quickly and taking

anything longer than four days is pretty much useless. I just started

keeping a journal and will make sure I only take the current supplement for

four days. Question, do I take garlic alone, or go back to the acidophilis?

Not knowing this prior to taking the acidophilis for seven days and losing

it's effectiveness I am wondering if it will work now.

I am interested in the olive leaf oil because I want to add more candida

killers to my list to offer a wider rotation. I also heard oil of oregano is

great for killing candida. Oh, and colloidal silver which sounds like it has

a lot of the same properties as the olive leaf oil. All seem to be used as

an antibiotic and great to kill off fungas.

I realize I have a long way to go but I heard when the candida does die off

it is extremely important to take a parasite cleanse (killer) to get rid of

any other unhealthy parasites and prevent the candida from returning.

This has been so very confusing but it looks like it is beginning to make

some sense. I can only eat about a dozen items but I do notice when I change

to another product that for a day or two I can eat a little more. Make any

sense?

One more thing, I read it is important to do bowel cleanses while killing the

yeast. I think this is right. From what I understand if I am taking the

yeast cleanse I should do enemas using the same product.

How is your candida fight going? Are you able to eat better or are you still

having problems with it? I know your other fungas problems are disappearing

but how about your general health and again the eating? I don't mind the

candida diet at all but I can only eat a couple of items even from that list.

I belong to another onelist group for benzodiazepine withdrawal. Most of us

were put on xanax (klonopin, ativan, etc.) for anxiety/panic and were told it

was safe and not addictive. After fighting that long and terrible battle

many of us are plagued with candida for some reason. I am at the point of

attacking candida as aggresively as possible. I have been sick way too long

and want to know what it is to feel " normal " again.

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to all of my questions. All of

us working together is what is going to give us answers and help us regain

our health.

Report post · October 31, 1999

Oil of Oregano can be very toxic! Research has shown it to have drug

interactions and can interfere with the liver's ability to process certain

medications, hormones and other things--(grapefruit seed and other flavanoid

products all have shown the same potential toxicity)

Garlic is very safe, is a powerful antioxidant and should have no side

affects. Most people don't realize that so many herbs and things we think

of as natural may be harmful long term and with certain meds may be very

harmful.

Do you know that no one monitors the purity and potency of anything sold as

food supplements? I alwways thought FDA or someone was out there watching,

but it is not so. Hundreds of things out there have no value whatsoever,

and may vary from batch to batch in potency. Very little research has been

done on most of them. Most common herbs do have theraputic uses, but still

may have problems.

Colloidal silver has also been shown to have toxicity--and so much of it is

not standardized and not purity standards have been set for it.

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>Subject: Re: RE: new member

>Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 12:06 AM

>

> From: 1005@...

>

> Mogdrmom

>

> Funny you should mention the rotation program. I was taking acidophilis

> starting 10/23/99 and yesterday it started to " quit " working. Today it did

> nothing so I took the yeast cleanse (garlic, grapefruit seed extract,

> caprylic acid, tea tree oil, and pau d'arco tea).

>

> I had read that for some people the only way to get rid of candida is the

> rotation program. The same you suggested. Four days on and then four days

> off. I read that candida can build up a tolerance very quickly and taking

> anything longer than four days is pretty much useless. I just started

> keeping a journal and will make sure I only take the current supplement for

> four days. Question, do I take garlic alone, or go back to the acidophilis?

> Not knowing this prior to taking the acidophilis for seven days and losing

> it's effectiveness I am wondering if it will work now.

>

> I am interested in the olive leaf oil because I want to add more candida

> killers to my list to offer a wider rotation. I also heard oil of oregano is

> great for killing candida. Oh, and colloidal silver which sounds like it has

> a lot of the same properties as the olive leaf oil. All seem to be used as

> an antibiotic and great to kill off fungas.

>

> I realize I have a long way to go but I heard when the candida does die off

> it is extremely important to take a parasite cleanse (killer) to get rid of

> any other unhealthy parasites and prevent the candida from returning.

>

> This has been so very confusing but it looks like it is beginning to make

> some sense. I can only eat about a dozen items but I do notice when I change

> to another product that for a day or two I can eat a little more. Make any

> sense?

>

> One more thing, I read it is important to do bowel cleanses while killing the

> yeast. I think this is right. From what I understand if I am taking the

> yeast cleanse I should do enemas using the same product.

>

> How is your candida fight going? Are you able to eat better or are you still

> having problems with it? I know your other fungas problems are disappearing

> but how about your general health and again the eating? I don't mind the

> candida diet at all but I can only eat a couple of items even from that list.

>

> I belong to another onelist group for benzodiazepine withdrawal. Most of us

> were put on xanax (klonopin, ativan, etc.) for anxiety/panic and were told it

> was safe and not addictive. After fighting that long and terrible battle

> many of us are plagued with candida for some reason. I am at the point of

> attacking candida as aggresively as possible. I have been sick way too long

> and want to know what it is to feel " normal " again.

>

> Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to all of my questions. All of

> us working together is what is going to give us answers and help us regain

> our health.

>

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