Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 In a message dated 10/31/99 7:57:20 AM Central Standard Time, MogdrMom@... writes: << Edith: i took the Oreganol Oil on a rotation & it was a monitored ammount. i really liked it, It is the North American brand, i got it from my internet Dr. i am not taking it now, am done with that phase. I still use it for my massages thou. Mogdrmom >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ was it the $23 or $75. I ask this because the strengths are different not the amount in bottle. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 Thanks so much for the information about toxidiity in natural products. You mentioned a product called Mannatech. Could you please send more info or a website, etc. to read about it? I don't take any other medications but also I don't want something that could harm me either. What products did you take for your candida? thanks brenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 Mogdrmom I went back over the posts on candida after realizing the acidophilis quit working after six days and got very interested in the rotation program. As I stated in an earlier post I am now taking the yeast cleans for four days and then switching to another one and so on. I asked my doctor for a test for candida over six months ago and she said there isn't one. Are you seeing a regular doctor or a specialist? I would like to learn more about the tests to see how I am doing on the program. I am also very concerned it is in my blood also and have to admit this does scare me a little. Having tests to verify my progess would give me a lot of peace of mind. Thanks again for your time and info brenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 There was a study done by a leading immunologist, Dr. Darryl See, M.D. when he was at the University of California, IRVINE--over a 6 year period he tested over 200 ingredients and popular supplement products for 6 different categories. Three were for toxicity and drug interactions and 3 were for natural killer cell function, anti-viral and antioxidant function. The study was published by the American Nutraceutical Association in Jan of 1999--I had to opportunity to hear this Doctor speak and visit with him and he had lots of information. He has a website about his anti-aging book just out--I'll try to locate it and send it to you. I know he was very concerned about the colloidal mineral and silver products because there is so much bad stuff out there, even being made out of coins and stuff-he was very cautious. The flavanoids he names are pycnogenols, pine bark extracts, grape seed and grapefruit see extracts, noni juice, OPCs etc. He said these could have drug interactions that could be very harmful-- The antioxidants he tested with no side effects were garlic extract, Mannatech's Ambrotose and Phytaloe and the Manapol aloe that is in the Mannatech products. By the way, he had never heard of Mannatech when he started this study in 1992. Mannatech didn't have Ambrotose until 1996. these products also tested highest in the natural killer cell function and anti viral and anti fungal. ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 7:08 AM > > From: Es9525@... > > ....would like to know where you got this info...especially about oregano > and grapefruit seed. Thanks abunch...Edith > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In a message dated 10/31/99 12:38:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > njones@... writes: > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > Oil of Oregano can be very toxic! Research has shown it to have drug > interactions and can interfere with the liver's ability to process certain > medications, hormones and other things--(grapefruit seed and other flavanoid > products all have shown the same potential toxicity) > > Garlic is very safe, is a powerful antioxidant and should have no side > affects. Most people don't realize that so many herbs and things we think > of as natural may be harmful long term and with certain meds may be very > harmful. > > Do you know that no one monitors the purity and potency of anything sold as > food supplements? I alwways thought FDA or someone was out there watching, > but it is not so. Hundreds of things out there have no value whatsoever, > and may vary from batch to batch in potency. Very little research has been > done on most of them. Most common herbs do have theraputic uses, but still > may have problems. > > Colloidal silver has also been shown to have toxicity--and so much of it is > not standardized and not purity standards have been set for it. > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 There was a study done by a leading immunologist, Dr. Darryl See, M.D. when he was at the University of California, IRVINE--over a 6 year period he tested over 200 ingredients and popular supplement products for 6 different categories. Three were for toxicity and drug interactions and 3 were for natural killer cell function, anti-viral and antioxidant function. The study was published by the American Nutraceutical Association in Jan of 1999--I had to opportunity to hear this Doctor speak and visit with him and he had lots of information. He has a website about his anti-aging book just out--I'll try to locate it and send it to you. I know he was very concerned about the colloidal mineral and silver products because there is so much bad stuff out there, even being made out of coins and stuff-he was very cautious. The flavanoids he names are pycnogenols, pine bark extracts, grape seed and grapefruit seed extracts, noni juice, OPCs etc. He said these could have drug interactions that could be very harmful-- The antioxidants he tested with no side effects were garlic extract, Mannatech's Ambrotose and Phytaloe and the Manapol aloe that is in the Mannatech products. By the way, he had never heard of Mannatech when he started this study in 1992. Mannatech didn't have Ambrotose until 1996. these products also tested highest in the natural killer cell function and anti viral and anti fungal. ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 7:08 AM > > From: Es9525@... > > ....would like to know where you got this info...especially about oregano > and grapefruit seed. Thanks abunch...Edith > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In a message dated 10/31/99 12:38:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > njones@... writes: > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > Oil of Oregano can be very toxic! Research has shown it to have drug > interactions and can interfere with the liver's ability to process certain > medications, hormones and other things--(grapefruit seed and other flavanoid > products all have shown the same potential toxicity) > > Garlic is very safe, is a powerful antioxidant and should have no side > affects. Most people don't realize that so many herbs and things we think > of as natural may be harmful long term and with certain meds may be very > harmful. > > Do you know that no one monitors the purity and potency of anything sold as > food supplements? I alwways thought FDA or someone was out there watching, > but it is not so. Hundreds of things out there have no value whatsoever, > and may vary from batch to batch in potency. Very little research has been > done on most of them. Most common herbs do have theraputic uses, but still > may have problems. > > Colloidal silver has also been shown to have toxicity--and so much of it is > not standardized and not purity standards have been set for it. > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 , What is his web site? Edith ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 10/31/99 3:22:29 PM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: << From: " " <njones@...> There was a study done by a leading immunologist, Dr. Darryl See, M.D. when he was at the University of California, IRVINE--over a 6 year period he tested over 200 ingredients and popular supplement products for 6 different categories. Three were for toxicity and drug interactions and 3 were for natural killer cell function, anti-viral and antioxidant function. The study was published by the American Nutraceutical Association in Jan of 1999--I had to opportunity to hear this Doctor speak and visit with him and he had lots of information. He has a website about his anti-aging book just out--I'll try to locate it and send it to you. I know he was very concerned about the colloidal mineral and silver products because there is so much bad stuff out there, even being made out of coins and stuff-he was very cautious. The flavanoids he names are pycnogenols, pine bark extracts, grape seed and grapefruit seed extracts, noni juice, OPCs etc. He said these could have drug interactions that could be very harmful-- The antioxidants he tested with no side effects were garlic extract, Mannatech's Ambrotose and Phytaloe and the Manapol aloe that is in the Mannatech products. By the way, he had never heard of Mannatech when he started this study in 1992. Mannatech didn't have Ambrotose until 1996. these products also tested highest in the natural killer cell function and anti viral and anti fungal. ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 7:08 AM > > From: Es9525@... > > ....would like to know where you got this info...especially about oregano > and grapefruit seed. Thanks abunch...Edith > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In a message dated 10/31/99 12:38:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > njones@... writes: > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > Oil of Oregano can be very toxic! Research has shown it to have drug > interactions and can interfere with the liver's ability to process certain > medications, hormones and other things--(grapefruit seed and other flavanoid > products all have shown the same potential toxicity) > > Garlic is very safe, is a powerful antioxidant and should have no side > affects. Most people don't realize that so many herbs and things we think > of as natural may be harmful long term and with certain meds may be very > harmful. > > Do you know that no one monitors the purity and potency of anything sold as > food supplements? I alwways thought FDA or someone was out there watching, > but it is not so. Hundreds of things out there have no value whatsoever, > and may vary from batch to batch in potency. Very little research has been > done on most of them. Most common herbs do have theraputic uses, but still > may have problems. > > Colloidal silver has also been shown to have toxicity--and so much of it is > not standardized and not purity standards have been set for it. > > > > > _ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 Wow , You have quiet alot goinging on. I'm curious as to what you eat, there's so much you can't eat. Edith ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In a message dated 10/31/99 6:01:54 PM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: << I take a lot of DDS Acidophilus by UAS brand (I get it at my healthfood coop) and I take the Ambrotose (which helps the body's cell to cell communication. It also has been shown to have a good kill rate with yeast. I also take the phytonutrients called Phytaloe since I can't digest raw foods because of my new-style plumbing (the food goes through my system in about an hour to 2 hours and raw food can't be absorbed in that time.) I also take a product called Plus which supports the function on my entire endrocine system. My adrenal and thyroid function has been messed up because of the massive prednisone therapy for the ulcerative colitus. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 I have fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue and of course after being on so many antibiotics, lots of candida was evident. I have an ileostomy from ulcerative colitus which started this whole mess 12 years ago, so I have no large intestine. I take a lot of DDS Acidophilus by UAS brand (I get it at my healthfood coop) and I take the Ambrotose (which helps the body's cell to cell communication. It also has been shown to have a good kill rate with yeast. I also take the phytonutrients called Phytaloe since I can't digest raw foods because of my new-style plumbing (the food goes through my system in about an hour to 2 hours and raw food can't be absorbed in that time.) I also take a product called Plus which supports the function on my entire endrocine system. My adrenal and thyroid function has been messed up because of the massive prednisone therapy for the ulcerative colitus. So that helps my body produce the right hormones by providing it with the nutrients that act as the raw material for the body to use to make the 80 some hormones it makes. I don't take estrogen or thyroid now and do wonderfully. The products working on the candida was a great side benefit, because once my body;s immune systems beganto function more normally, it can work on eliminating the yeast. I have had periods of time where the yeast actually came out through my skin. I developed several spots, some the size of an orange that itched and was annoying, but after a couple of weeks just went away. While they were active I had my doctor culture them, because he thought it was an active yeast outbreak, but the cultures did not grow--the yeast was dead and was just my body getting rid of it through the skin. I have a massage therapist, and during these times--no rhyme or reason that they break out, I'll go in and have her use her steam table to help my body cleanse more effectively. I also bathe in hot water with a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide added to it, which also helps get the stuff out beneath the skin. I also religiously drink distilled water. The old myths that it is dead water and harmful are just that. There is so much junk, including residual prescription drugs in our drinking water, even with reverse osmosis, we drink more of it than we should. Those toxins also kill the good bacteria in our systems. By using the distilled water, and taking a lot of acidophilus to help re-colonize my GI tract with good bacteria, along with the Mannatech products, I just don't have anymore symptoms of candida and I didn't have to jump through a lot of dietary hoops and weird things. I maintain a low glycemic diet, because I am finally getting rid of the fat the prednisone put on my body--and the low glycemic is the only thing that has worked for me in 12 years of dieting. I avoid any processed and box mix foods, frozen dinners etc. I also avoid MSG like the plague. It is so abundant in everything--all seasoning, sauces, gravies, breading coatings, soups, etc. They hide it now under the term " natural flavorings " Sites you might want to visit for information. Drugs in Our Drinking Water <www.nugentreport.com> <www.mannapages.com/addesign> my website about Mannatech products <www.glycoscience.com> is now under construction, but you can visit the site and see what kinds of things they will be having. If you need more information--email me. I'd be happy to send you a copy of the research done on candida and Ambrotose. ---------- >From: 1005@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 4:37 PM > > From: 1005@... > > > > Thanks so much for the information about toxidiity in natural products. You > mentioned a product called Mannatech. Could you please send more info or a > website, etc. to read about it? > > I don't take any other medications but also I don't want something that could > harm me either. What products did you take for your candida? > > thanks > brenda > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 I eat lots of protein, most raw veggies, (even though they don't digest, they give my mouth something to do and they taste good) like broccoli, celery, radishes, green peas, and steamed green beans. sometimes I will have corn or red potatoes or sweet potatoes. I usually have at least one slice of organic whole wheat (I grind the wheat fresh) bread, or make it into little mini buns and have a sandwich with that each day. I also get a sprouted grain bread called Ezekiel Bread that is much higher protein than regular bread. I can eat good cheese ( I also get the organic cheese from my food coop which is from cows who aren't treated with hormones and antibiotics) ,peanut butter (organic) peanuts, almonds, walnuts, steel cut rolled oats, whole wheat pasta (not overcooked). I am allergic to fruit pectin, so I don't have fruits in my diet--I just get the phytonutrients from them in the Phytaloe. I do get some wonderful vegetable juice called Very Veggie (also from my food coop-but they have it at most health food stores) that puts V-8 to shame. I have to take extra foodform vitamin C (this is not ascorbic acid, but full food matrix vitamin C from Citrus extracts) and i also take additional foodform minerals (also taken from food instead of inorganic rocks and chemicals) because I can't get much from the food. I also have a soy intolerance so I have to eat real butter and eggs, and I use a whey milk and whey protein powder to cook with. I can have occasional good ice cream (the stuff made with real milk, eggs, cream, etc.) I have become an avid label reader and find it only takes me about 15 minutes to grocery shop because I don't buy most of what is in the store. I can have thin crust pizza loaded with meat and cheese--what fun! I just make sure I eat until I am almost, but not quite, full. For the first time in many years I feel like I am free of the bondage of food addictions and sugar--which I know made my immune system worse. Rarely, I will have a Coke or Root Beer (if I am somewhere that the water is rank and from the tap, like a restaurant) I feel incredible and am out enjoying life and sharing what I have found with others who need to know about it. I will drive 2 hours tomorrow to do an educational meeting about the research with Mannatech. I just got back from a week training trip through Oklahoma, Arkansas and Missouri. I listen to my body when it says it is tired, and rest, then get up rarin' to go again. ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 9:24 PM > > From: Es9525@... > > Wow , > You have quiet alot goinging on. I'm curious as to what you eat, there's so > much you can't eat. > Edith > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In a message dated > 10/31/99 6:01:54 PM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: > > << I take a lot of DDS Acidophilus by UAS brand (I get it at my healthfood > coop) and I take the Ambrotose (which helps the body's cell to cell > communication. It also has been shown to have a good kill rate with yeast. > I also take the phytonutrients called Phytaloe since I can't digest raw > foods because of my new-style plumbing (the food goes through my system in > about an hour to 2 hours and raw food can't be absorbed in that time.) I > also take a product called Plus which supports the function on my entire > endrocine system. My adrenal and thyroid function has been messed up > because of the massive prednisone therapy for the ulcerative colitus. >> > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 Here are a couple of sites for Dr. See. I am having trouble locating all my archives. Lightning hit our house and killed my computer a while back and I have lost a lot of my files. I'll keep looking. You can go to MedLine at <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/> to find all of Dr. See's articles. Just enter " See DM " in the search field or you can go directly to the article below. The in vitro immunomodulatory effects of glyconutrients on peripheral blood mononuclear cells of patients with chronic fatigue syndrome: <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9829439 & form=6 & db=m & Do pt=b> ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 9:17 PM > > From: Es9525@... > > , > What is his web site? > > Edith > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In a message dated 10/31/99 3:22:29 PM Central Standard Time, > njones@... writes: > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > There was a study done by a leading immunologist, Dr. Darryl See, M.D. when > he was at the University of California, IRVINE--over a 6 year period he > tested over 200 ingredients and popular supplement products for 6 different > categories. Three were for toxicity and drug interactions and 3 were for > natural killer cell function, anti-viral and antioxidant function. > > The study was published by the American Nutraceutical Association in Jan of > 1999--I had to opportunity to hear this Doctor speak and visit with him and > he had lots of information. He has a website about his anti-aging book just > out--I'll try to locate it and send it to you. I know he was very concerned > about the colloidal mineral and silver products because there is so much bad > stuff out there, even being made out of coins and stuff-he was very > cautious. The flavanoids he names are pycnogenols, pine bark extracts, > grape seed and grapefruit seed extracts, noni juice, OPCs etc. He said > these > could have drug interactions that could be very harmful-- > > The antioxidants he tested with no side effects were garlic extract, > Mannatech's Ambrotose and Phytaloe and the Manapol aloe that is in the > Mannatech products. By the way, he had never heard of Mannatech when he > started this study in 1992. Mannatech didn't have Ambrotose until 1996. > > these products also tested highest in the natural killer cell function and > anti viral and anti fungal. > > ---------- > >From: Es9525@... > >candidiasisonelist > >Subject: Re: RE: new member > >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 7:08 AM > > > > > From: Es9525@... > > > > ....would like to know where you got this info...especially about > oregano > > and grapefruit seed. Thanks abunch...Edith > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > In a message dated 10/31/99 12:38:26 AM Central Daylight Time, > > njones@... writes: > > > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > > > Oil of Oregano can be very toxic! Research has shown it to have drug > > interactions and can interfere with the liver's ability to process certain > > medications, hormones and other things--(grapefruit seed and other > flavanoid > > products all have shown the same potential toxicity) > > > > Garlic is very safe, is a powerful antioxidant and should have no side > > affects. Most people don't realize that so many herbs and things we think > > of as natural may be harmful long term and with certain meds may be very > > harmful. > > > > Do you know that no one monitors the purity and potency of anything sold > as > > food supplements? I alwways thought FDA or someone was out there > watching, > > but it is not so. Hundreds of things out there have no value whatsoever, > > and may vary from batch to batch in potency. Very little research has > been > > done on most of them. Most common herbs do have theraputic uses, but > still > > may have problems. > > > > > Colloidal silver has also been shown to have toxicity--and so much of it > is > > not standardized and not purity standards have been set for it. > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 , I have used Mannatech products but guess I didn't stay on them long enough to make a difference. Didn't realize ambertose would help candida. Maybe I need to try it again. Edith PS I'm happy for your new life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In a message dated 10/31/99 10:40:43 PM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: << From: " " <njones@...> I eat lots of protein, most raw veggies, (even though they don't digest, they give my mouth something to do and they taste good) like broccoli, celery, radishes, green peas, and steamed green beans. sometimes I will have corn or red potatoes or sweet potatoes. I usually have at least one slice of organic whole wheat (I grind the wheat fresh) bread, or make it into little mini buns and have a sandwich with that each day. I also get a sprouted grain bread called Ezekiel Bread that is much higher protein than regular bread. I can eat good cheese ( I also get the organic cheese from my food coop which is from cows who aren't treated with hormones and antibiotics) ,peanut butter (organic) peanuts, almonds, walnuts, steel cut rolled oats, whole wheat pasta (not overcooked). I am allergic to fruit pectin, so I don't have fruits in my diet--I just get the phytonutrients from them in the Phytaloe. I do get some wonderful vegetable juice called Very Veggie (also from my food coop-but they have it at most health food stores) that puts V-8 to shame. I have to take extra foodform vitamin C (this is not ascorbic acid, but full food matrix vitamin C from Citrus extracts) and i also take additional foodform minerals (also taken from food instead of inorganic rocks and chemicals) because I can't get much from the food. I also have a soy intolerance so I have to eat real butter and eggs, and I use a whey milk and whey protein powder to cook with. I can have occasional good ice cream (the stuff made with real milk, eggs, cream, etc.) I have become an avid label reader and find it only takes me about 15 minutes to grocery shop because I don't buy most of what is in the store. I can have thin crust pizza loaded with meat and cheese--what fun! I just make sure I eat until I am almost, but not quite, full. For the first time in many years I feel like I am free of the bondage of food addictions and sugar--which I know made my immune system worse. Rarely, I will have a Coke or Root Beer (if I am somewhere that the water is rank and from the tap, like a restaurant) I feel incredible and am out enjoying life and sharing what I have found with others who need to know about it. I will drive 2 hours tomorrow to do an educational meeting about the research with Mannatech. I just got back from a week training trip through Oklahoma, Arkansas and Missouri. I listen to my body when it says it is tired, and rest, then get up rarin' to go again. ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 9:24 PM > > From: Es9525@... > > Wow , > You have quiet alot goinging on. I'm curious as to what you eat, there's so > much you can't eat. > Edith > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 what is a bolus--sorry to sound ignorant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 It takes a while--and for Heaven sake--get your upline to help you understand what a wonderful thing you have! The bulk Ambrotose is very cost effective and should be used liberally. The study that is in the Proceedings (the blue one) indicates that the kill rate is greater with increased amount of Ambrotose. (To avoid toxic problems during the kill, Manna Cleanse, additional Acidophilus and peroxide baths can help) If you truly understand what you have for immune support with Mannatech, you will never be without it. Good luck and happy hunting! (yeast that is!) ---------- >From: Es9525@... >candidiasisonelist >Subject: Re: RE: new member >Date: Mon, Nov 1, 1999, 6:05 AM > > From: Es9525@... > > , > I have used Mannatech products but guess I didn't stay on them long enough > to make a difference. Didn't realize ambertose would help candida. Maybe I > need to try it again. > Edith > PS I'm happy for your new life. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~In a message > dated 10/31/99 10:40:43 PM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: > > << From: " " <njones@...> > > I eat lots of protein, most raw veggies, (even though they don't digest, > they give my mouth something to do and they taste good) like broccoli, > celery, radishes, green peas, and steamed green beans. sometimes I will > have corn or red potatoes or sweet potatoes. I usually have at least one > slice of organic whole wheat (I grind the wheat fresh) bread, or make it > into little mini buns and have a sandwich with that each day. I also get a > sprouted grain bread called Ezekiel Bread that is much higher protein than > regular bread. I can eat good cheese ( I also get the organic cheese from my > food coop which is from cows who aren't treated with hormones and > antibiotics) ,peanut butter (organic) peanuts, almonds, walnuts, steel cut > rolled oats, whole wheat pasta (not overcooked). I am allergic to fruit > pectin, so I don't have fruits in my diet--I just get the phytonutrients > from them in the Phytaloe. I do get some wonderful vegetable juice called > Very Veggie (also from my food coop-but they have it at most health food > stores) that puts V-8 to shame. I have to take extra foodform vitamin C > (this is not ascorbic acid, but full food matrix vitamin C from Citrus > extracts) and i also take additional foodform minerals (also taken from food > instead of inorganic rocks and chemicals) because I can't get much from the > food. I also have a soy intolerance so I have to eat real butter and eggs, > and I use a whey milk and whey protein powder to cook with. I can have > occasional good ice cream (the stuff made with real milk, eggs, cream, etc.) > I have become an avid label reader and find it only takes me about 15 > minutes to grocery shop because I don't buy most of what is in the store. I > can have thin crust pizza loaded with meat and cheese--what fun! I just > make sure I eat until I am almost, but not quite, full. > > For the first time in many years I feel like I am free of the bondage of > food addictions and sugar--which I know made my immune system worse. > Rarely, I will have a Coke or Root Beer (if I am somewhere that the water is > rank and from the tap, like a restaurant) > > I feel incredible and am out enjoying life and sharing what I have found > with others who need to know about it. I will drive 2 hours tomorrow to do > an educational meeting about the research with Mannatech. I just got back > from a week training trip through Oklahoma, Arkansas and Missouri. > > I listen to my body when it says it is tired, and rest, then get up rarin' > > to go again. > > ---------- > >From: Es9525@... > >candidiasisonelist > >Subject: Re: RE: new member > >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 9:24 PM > > > > > From: Es9525@... > > > > Wow , > > You have quiet alot goinging on. I'm curious as to what you eat, there's > so > > much you can't eat. > > Edith > > > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 Edith, I tried the Mannatech product as well and didn't experience any relief. I can recommend d-LENOLATE olive leaf extract. I believe that my candida is gone or almost gone after four months of 4-6 capsules a day. You can find lots of information at www.otrecure.com There is a book by Dr. Morton on olive leaf extract you should read that is filled with case studies and testimonials. Hope you find this helpful. Re: RE: new member > >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 9:24 PM > > > > > From: Es9525@... > > > > Wow , > > You have quiet alot goinging on. I'm curious as to what you eat, there's > so > > much you can't eat. > > Edith > > > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 >I also get a >sprouted grain bread called Ezekiel Bread that is much higher protein than >regular bread. Not only does Ezekiel Bread have more protein than regular bread, but my naturopath said that your body treats the sprouted wheat differently than it does regular wheat. It's better for a person with candidiasis than whole wheat bread. On a side note, it tastes really good when you put it in the microwave--yum yum! Ali foleyag@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 Yes Yes, and it is great toasted! Very crunchy and so good for you. Because the flour in it is actually made from the sprouted grains which are dried and then ground into flour, the whole composition of the bread metabolism is different and is processed without stimulating the insulin. ---------- >From: Foley <foleyag@...> >candidiasisonelist >Subject: RE: RE: new member >Date: Mon, Nov 1, 1999, 12:11 PM > > From: Foley <foleyag@...> > >>I also get a >>sprouted grain bread called Ezekiel Bread that is much higher protein than >>regular bread. > > Not only does Ezekiel Bread have more protein than regular bread, but my > naturopath said that your body treats the sprouted wheat differently than it > does regular wheat. It's better for a person with candidiasis than whole wheat > bread. On a side note, it tastes really good when you put it in the > microwave--yum yum! > Ali > foleyag@... > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 YEAST INFECTION Herbs Used: Cayenne, Garlic, White Oak Bark, Marshmallow, Mullein (all mixed together and used as a bolus) Other uses: Leuchorea, Vagina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 In a message dated 11/1/99 10:01:47 AM Central Standard Time, njones@... writes: << It takes a while--and for Heaven sake--get your upline to help you understand what a wonderful thing you have! The bulk Ambrotose is very cost effective and should be used liberally. The study that is in the Proceedings (the blue one) indicates that the kill rate is greater with increased amount of Ambrotose. (To avoid toxic problems during the kill, Manna Cleanse additional Acidophilus and peroxide baths can help) >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bulk Ambertose was what I was using but never thought it was very cost effective at $100 a whack. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 In a message dated 11/1/99 10:28:14 AM Central Standard Time, healthynut@... writes: << Edith, I tried the Mannatech product as well and didn't experience any relief. I can recommend d-LENOLATE olive leaf extract. I believe that my candida is gone or almost gone after four months of 4-6 capsules a day. You can find lots of information at www.otrecure.com There is a book by Dr. Morton on olive leaf extract you should read that is filled with case studies and testimonials. Hope you find this helpful. ----- Original Message ----- >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks , I have a very small book on Olive Leaf Extract but don't think it is the one you have. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 Lauri I don't know that much about it but I do know that several women in our benzo group have candida while or after going through withdrawal from klonopin, xanax, etc. While I was in withdrawal I wound up having one yeast infection after another plus low blood sugar problems and sugar cravings. Some benzo symptoms overlap with candida symptoms so we are thinking there is something there. Hope this helps a little brenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 , I did not know there was a connection between yeast and klonopin. I have been fighting yeast, but also take the klonopin for anxiety. Am I defeating my purpose? Lauri Re: RE: new member > From: 1005@... > > Mogdrmom > > Funny you should mention the rotation program. I was taking acidophilis > starting 10/23/99 and yesterday it started to " quit " working. Today it did > nothing so I took the yeast cleanse (garlic, grapefruit seed extract, > caprylic acid, tea tree oil, and pau d'arco tea). > > I had read that for some people the only way to get rid of candida is the > rotation program. The same you suggested. Four days on and then four days > off. I read that candida can build up a tolerance very quickly and taking > anything longer than four days is pretty much useless. I just started > keeping a journal and will make sure I only take the current supplement for > four days. Question, do I take garlic alone, or go back to the acidophilis? > Not knowing this prior to taking the acidophilis for seven days and losing > it's effectiveness I am wondering if it will work now. > > I am interested in the olive leaf oil because I want to add more candida > killers to my list to offer a wider rotation. I also heard oil of oregano is > great for killing candida. Oh, and colloidal silver which sounds like it has > a lot of the same properties as the olive leaf oil. All seem to be used as > an antibiotic and great to kill off fungas. > > I realize I have a long way to go but I heard when the candida does die off > it is extremely important to take a parasite cleanse (killer) to get rid of > any other unhealthy parasites and prevent the candida from returning. > > This has been so very confusing but it looks like it is beginning to make > some sense. I can only eat about a dozen items but I do notice when I change > to another product that for a day or two I can eat a little more. Make any > sense? > > One more thing, I read it is important to do bowel cleanses while killing the > yeast. I think this is right. From what I understand if I am taking the > yeast cleanse I should do enemas using the same product. > > How is your candida fight going? Are you able to eat better or are you still > having problems with it? I know your other fungas problems are disappearing > but how about your general health and again the eating? I don't mind the > candida diet at all but I can only eat a couple of items even from that list. > > I belong to another onelist group for benzodiazepine withdrawal. Most of us > were put on xanax (klonopin, ativan, etc.) for anxiety/panic and were told it > was safe and not addictive. After fighting that long and terrible battle > many of us are plagued with candida for some reason. I am at the point of > attacking candida as aggresively as possible. I have been sick way too long > and want to know what it is to feel " normal " again. > > Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to all of my questions. All of > us working together is what is going to give us answers and help us regain > our health. > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 It is the equivalent of 10 bottles of capsules. The bulk allows you to take more of it to get your system in balance sooner. How much does it cost to take things that won't work? Of things that have harmful side affects? Ambrotose does so much more for your body and there is nothing, absolutely nothing else like it anywhere! To correct health problems, we have to start at the cell level. Everything else is just another bandaid. When we correct the cell to cell communication and enable the body to do what it was intended to do--it is capable of all the healing--nothing out there will cause your body to heal. Only it can do it. When we give it the raw materials to do what it needs to do, it is divinely designed to do that. If you got the bulk on an auto order you save an additional 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 Just to add to what has said: What is the real cost of free illness? Is free sickness a bargain, just because it's free? Russ Re: RE: new member >From: " Nany " <bodyleanresources@...> > >It is the equivalent of 10 bottles of capsules. The bulk allows you to take >more of it to get your system in balance sooner. How much does it cost to >take things that won't work? Of things that have harmful side affects? >Ambrotose does so much more for your body and there is nothing, absolutely >nothing else like it anywhere! To correct health problems, we have to start >at the cell level. Everything else is just another bandaid. When we >correct the cell to cell communication and enable the body to do what it was >intended to do--it is capable of all the healing--nothing out there will >cause your body to heal. Only it can do it. When we give it the raw >materials to do what it needs to do, it is divinely designed to do that. > >If you got the bulk on an auto order you save an additional 10%. > >>_ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/candidiasis > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > candidiasis-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > candidiasis-normalonelist > >To subscribe: > candidiasis-subscribeonelist > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 Hey Jon, As far as returning back to " normal, " that totally varies with each person, method of treatment, and severity of the candidiasis. It has taken me a lot longer (what am I saying, I'm still in the process) to recover than my ND thought because I have more candida than he thought I did and my body is so sensitive that I have to go about things slowly...if I kill the yeast too quickly I get WAY too sick from the die-off...I can't even function. As for the pizza--many chains like Papa Gino's and Pizza Hut use MSG and other additives that your body doesn't like, especially those with candida and/or allergies. The pizza made from local places is fresher (is that a word?). Good luck with everything! Ali foleyag@... >===== Original Message From candidiasisonelist ===== >From: randlejl@... > >Howdy all! > >I am a new member to the list, but not to some of the problems of >Candida. I have kept my symptoms under control by eliminating heavy >sugar, yeast, and dried fruit. The Peach Pecan bread I had 3 days ago >did a number on me. I would like to get rid of my yeast problem, if >that seem to be the problem. My wife would like me to take a >prescription and wipe it out in one shot. I don't like taking drugs, and >tend to forget. I have the several questions. Please forgive me for >throwing all of this on you in one post. > >1. Can a person get back to " normal " through lifestyle changes alone? >2. How long does it take till I can be considered normal? >3. What has been the most effective treatments for you? >4. Why does chain pizza like Papa 's effect me, while a local NY >style pizza place doesn't? >5. For the Men: Any prostate problems? > >I would like treatments that are simple and backed by sound science. > >Your input is gratefully awaited. > >Jon Randle >___________________________________________________________________ >Why pay more to get Web access? >Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! >Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > >>Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2000 Report Share Posted February 3, 2000 In a message dated 02/03/2000 1:44:30 PM Central Standard Time, denisedunlap@... writes: << Hello everyone. My name is and I just joined this list last night. I've been reading the archived messages and am learning so much. My husband and I have pinworms -- I'm sure because we've SEEN them. We've been using PinX (an over the counter drug that I saw on TV) and that gets rid of them for a month or so, and then they return in full force. I understand from this experience and from what I've already read here that the road to life without pinworms might be a long one. So -- to my question -- what's the best course of action to get rid of these little creatures? Also, I remember my brother and I having them when we were very young (I was about seven or eight.) Do you think they've been in my body all this time? Thank you for being here. I'm already encouraged and am so happy to find someplace where I can talk about this openly, without embarrassment. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Try looking here for an answer http://home.sol.no/~dusan/parasitescleanse.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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