Carolyn

[Guest guest]

I have low blood sugar also and would you beleive what is helping keep mine

up... " GrapeJuice " 100% concord grapes..

Carolyn

>From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>

>Dear Carolyn,

>

>The letter was from me Myra. Yes, I've tried to eat right all of my life.

>There are times you can't, but most of the time. I went on the Cave Man

>Diet, but I eat a variety of meats, chicken, and fish. There are a lot

of

>Veggies out there to choose from. When I need bread I eat tortia's. I do

>drink a little milk. Any way my blood sugar kept droping and all I wanted

>to do was sleep. Not good so I went to my Doctor who is a naturopath. He

>put me on several things. Finally he told me to add a fourth of a cup of

>carbs to help even out my blood sugar.

>

>Cheerfully,

>Myra

> Lost OS, looking for listmembers

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>> >> Shirley, Myra--

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I used to argue that I ate right. Then I used to say I tried to eat right.

Then I learned about all of the toxins in the air, water and food; and then

I learned about the empty (but good looking, but less than flavorful)

produce that I bought in the food stores; and then I learned about the

additives in foods and how processing destroys essential enzymes and

vitamins; and then I learned about hormones and drugs given to animals and

fowl and fish (yes, much of our fish is farmed ) or if wild, absorb toxins

from the oceans.

Now I have concluded that it is not possible to eat right anymore - and that

it is necessary to add add phytochemicals, phytogenins and glyconutrients to

my diet in order to prevent the occurrence of chronic health conditions as I

get older. This is the only way my body is going to be able to deal with

the toxin overload that we are all facing.

Breast cancer is beigtraced to anti-persperants (which prevent toxin removal

by perspiration). So where do these toxins, that are not eliminated end up

(accumulate)? In the breast and lymph glands. Even men are now showing

breast cancer !!

Russ

>From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>

>Dear Carolyn,

>

>The letter was from me Myra. Yes, I've tried to eat right all of my life.

>There are times you can't, but most of the time. I went on the Cave Man

>Diet, but I eat a variety of meats, chicken, and fish. There are a lot of

>Veggies out there to choose from. When I need bread I eat tortia's. I do

>drink a little milk. Any way my blood sugar kept droping and all I wanted

>to do was sleep. Not good so I went to my Doctor who is a naturopath. He

>put me on several things. Finally he told me to add a fourth of a cup of

>carbs to help even out my blood sugar.

>

>Cheerfully,

>Myra

> Lost OS, looking for listmembers

>> >

>> >

>> >> From: " jlpresto " <jlpresto@...>

>> >>

>> >> Shirley, Myra--

>> >>

>> >> Where are you? My OS crashed, I lost all messages.!

>> >>

>> >> I am really pleased. I believe I no longer have systemic candidiasis..

>> >The

>> >> last of the symptoms have disappeared within the last week...

>> >>

>> >> Judith

>> >> jlpresto@...

>> >> Nagoya, Japan

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Russ,

Good point about the inability to eat right these days. Genetic engineering

of foods is not making things any better! But I have a question about that

anti-perspirant thing. I've heard it's definitely true and that it's

definitely a hoax. I was wondering where you got your information because I

would like to do some further investigating on the topic. Thanks!

Ali

foleyag@...

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>From: rcrosby@... (Russ Crosby)

>

>I used to argue that I ate right. Then I used to say I tried to eat right.

>Then I learned about all of the toxins in the air, water and food; and then

>I learned about the empty (but good looking, but less than flavorful)

>produce that I bought in the food stores; and then I learned about the

>additives in foods and how processing destroys essential enzymes and

>vitamins; and then I learned about hormones and drugs given to animals and

>fowl and fish (yes, much of our fish is farmed ) or if wild, absorb toxins

>from the oceans.

>

>Now I have concluded that it is not possible to eat right anymore - and that

>it is necessary to add add phytochemicals, phytogenins and glyconutrients to

>my diet in order to prevent the occurrence of chronic health conditions as I

>get older. This is the only way my body is going to be able to deal with

>the toxin overload that we are all facing.

>

>Breast cancer is beigtraced to anti-persperants (which prevent toxin removal

>by perspiration). So where do these toxins, that are not eliminated end up

>(accumulate)? In the breast and lymph glands. Even men are now showing

>breast cancer !!

>

>Russ

>

>

>

>>From: " Myra " <jdrsr@...>

>>

>>Dear Carolyn,

>>

>>The letter was from me Myra. Yes, I've tried to eat right all of my life.

>>There are times you can't, but most of the time. I went on the Cave Man

>>Diet, but I eat a variety of meats, chicken, and fish. There are a lot of

>>Veggies out there to choose from. When I need bread I eat tortia's. I do

>>drink a little milk. Any way my blood sugar kept droping and all I wanted

>>to do was sleep. Not good so I went to my Doctor who is a naturopath. He

>>put me on several things. Finally he told me to add a fourth of a cup of

>>carbs to help even out my blood sugar.

>>

>>Cheerfully,

>>Myra

>> Lost OS, looking for listmembers

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >> From: " jlpresto " <jlpresto@...>

>>> >>

>>> >> Shirley, Myra--

>>> >>

>>> >> Where are you? My OS crashed, I lost all messages.!

>>> >>

>>> >> I am really pleased. I believe I no longer have systemic candidiasis..

>>> >The

>>> >> last of the symptoms have disappeared within the last week...

>>> >>

>>> >> Judith

>>> >> jlpresto@...

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Hiya!!

My letter was in reply to 's question - she asked if anyone thought that

there was a connection between fine motor skills and language acquisition. I

had not heard that fine motor skills are connected but that gross motor skills

are connected to speech and language and what Sue Buckley at the Down Syndrome

Educational Trust (www.downsnet.org) calls " Cracking the Language Code " . This

means first the acquisition of words and then the ability to put them together

to communicate.

I take Emma to a Kids Gym to practice her gross motor skills which was

recommended to me by Emma's speech therapist - she also has a theory that once

Emma's gross motor skills get stronger, her speech will improve. We'll see! I

have run out of ideas as to why Emma is not talking. Right now I am trying to

find a fantastic speech therapist who really cares about what they do and don't

have any personal problems that they want to share with me!! LOL! It ain't

easy!!

I am trying to get the girls to use a mouse too - I have an old Apple Mac which

the girls use and it only has one clicker thingy (technical huh) as opposed to 2

on our PC - less confusing. Emma is only just starting to connect the movement

of the mouse to the curser on the screen - but they really don't want to hold

the mouse.

Carolyn

Mum To on, , Emma (3 3/4)ds and Nicki (2 1/2)ds

Carolyn

From: " greysean " <greysean@...>

What do you mean fine motor skills are connected with language aquisition

(sp?)? Just starting to get language or getting new words?

the web site is great, Thanks for sharing it. Anyone have any good ideas on

how to det a child with Ds to use the mouse on the computer? I have tried track

balls and regular mouses and a small mouse and it seems to heavy and big for him

no matter what.

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Carolyn;

is definitely active and ALWAYS has been....he NEVER stops

moving...even in his sleep. He does not talk......your gross motor and speech

development theory seem accurate for .

uses an " Easy Ball " ....with the computer. Nicala and use

it actually......well, Nicala, AND use it! Its really great but

expensive too. It cost us $50.00 Canadian but was well worth the money. Its

designed for little hands and is much easier for our little ones to manipulate

rather then a mouse.

, mom to Nicala & ,ds (3) and (1)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/28/2000 2:26:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

greysean@... writes:

<< Anyone have any good ideas on how to det a child with Ds to use the mouse

on the computer? >>

have you ever heard of Jumpstart Toddler? It is a fantastic computer program

which has helped our 4 yo ds son to start to realize that if he moves the

mouse, somehting happens. There is a whole series of Jumpstart programs ...

toddler, preschool, kindergarten and so on.

we love it and so does dylan.

Peggy, mom to 5 including dylan and caleb with ds

[Guest guest]

>

> << Anyone have any good ideas on how to det a child with Ds to use the

mouse

> on the computer? >>

> have you ever heard of Jumpstart Toddler? It is a fantastic computer

program

> which has helped our 4 yo ds son to start to realize that if he moves the

> mouse, somehting happens. There is a whole series of Jumpstart programs

....

> toddler, preschool, kindergarten and so on.

> we love it and so does dylan.

> Peggy, mom to 5 including dylan and caleb with ds

That's what we have!!! started using it in ST classes. We also have

the Elmo Phone which is excellent....I LOVE the computer. The kids have

their own and we have ours. All three fight over theirs tho.

, mom to Nicala & ,ds (3) and (1)

[Guest guest]

Skye's motor skills were ahead but her speech was delayed.She climbed

before she could crawl,she sat,then crawled then walked.Her speech was

the last to develope.All my children were the same they were way ahead

in motor skills than other children of the same age but the other

children were ahead in their speech than the motor skills.

Skye has used a mouse at first it was quite hard for her to hold and get

the clicking of the mouse.She holds the mouse like I do and clicks away

on her games(educational).She moves the cursor wonderfully now but when

she started she had trouble trying to find the cursor.Now she is a pro

and tries to kick anyone off the seat when the computer is on.

Easterbrook

mum to Kane 11yrs,Sian 8yrs,Skye(DS) and 5yrs 11mths.

> My letter was in reply to 's question - she asked if anyone

> thought that there was a connection between fine motor skills and

> language acquisition. I had not heard that fine motor skills are

> connected but that gross motor skills are connected to speech and

> language and what Sue Buckley at the Down Syndrome Educational Trust

> (www.downsnet.org) calls " Cracking the Language Code " . This means

> first the acquisition of words and then the ability to put them

> together to communicate.

>

> I take Emma to a Kids Gym to practice her gross motor skills which was

> recommended to me by Emma's speech therapist - she also has a theory

> that once Emma's gross motor skills get stronger, her speech will

> improve. We'll see! I have run out of ideas as to why Emma is not

> talking. Right now I am trying to find a fantastic speech therapist

> who really cares about what they do and don't have any personal

> problems that they want to share with me!! LOL! It ain't easy!!

>

> I am trying to get the girls to use a mouse too - I have an old Apple

> Mac which the girls use and it only has one clicker thingy (technical

> huh) as opposed to 2 on our PC - less confusing. Emma is only just

> starting to connect the movement of the mouse to the curser on the

> screen - but they really don't want to hold the mouse.

>

> Carolyn

> Mum To on, , Emma (3 3/4)ds and Nicki (2 1/2)ds

>

[Guest guest]

well if it is connected it doesnt explain why Denton

is a little hellion on wheels 24/7 ! He does get

private speech w/ a wonderful guy here. He gives me

such hope and really clicks w/ him! He is really

making progress w/ him! His gross motor skills are

fine now that he runs and walks...the trampoline helps

too...

--- tonycarolyn <tonycarolyn@...> wrote:

> From: " tonycarolyn " <tonycarolyn@...>

>

> Hiya!!

>

> My letter was in reply to 's question - she

> asked if anyone thought that there was a connection

> between fine motor skills and language acquisition.

> I had not heard that fine motor skills are connected

> but that gross motor skills are connected to speech

> and language and what Sue Buckley at the Down

> Syndrome Educational Trust (www.downsnet.org) calls

> " Cracking the Language Code " . This means first the

> acquisition of words and then the ability to put

> them together to communicate.

>

> I take Emma to a Kids Gym to practice her gross

> motor skills which was recommended to me by Emma's

> speech therapist - she also has a theory that once

> Emma's gross motor skills get stronger, her speech

> will improve. We'll see! I have run out of ideas

> as to why Emma is not talking. Right now I am

> trying to find a fantastic speech therapist who

> really cares about what they do and don't have any

> personal problems that they want to share with me!!

> LOL! It ain't easy!!

>

> I am trying to get the girls to use a mouse too - I

> have an old Apple Mac which the girls use and it

> only has one clicker thingy (technical huh) as

> opposed to 2 on our PC - less confusing. Emma is

> only just starting to connect the movement of the

> mouse to the curser on the screen - but they really

> don't want to hold the mouse.

>

> Carolyn

> Mum To on, , Emma (3 3/4)ds and Nicki

> (2 1/2)ds

> Carolyn

>

>

> From: " greysean " <greysean@...>

>

>

> What do you mean fine motor skills are connected

> with language aquisition (sp?)? Just starting to get

> language or getting new words?

>

> the web site is great, Thanks for sharing it.

> Anyone have any good ideas on how to det a child

> with Ds to use the mouse on the computer? I have

> tried track balls and regular mouses and a small

> mouse and it seems to heavy and big for him no

> matter what.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Carolyn...

Not surprised bout the kidney thing either. Damn kidneys and stones... sounds really painful. Have they got ya on anything to help it ?

That is great news about the new nurse. Hope she helps lots sweetie.

"Sid has agreed to do this and anything I need. He is even helping doctor the VRE,talk about a shock,this is one for me"

OMG I am glad I was sitting down...and I thought that this wizzy feeling was just needing to eat! *HUG* Bout time he did something if ya ask me.

"Now have you finished pmsing?"

Hahaha... nope. I have hormones from hell. They make me extremely ill for as long as they can. Horrid things. But only 7 days late (and counting) so that is nothing out of the ordinary for me...I was fine till the prednisolone IV... and Imuran....but its also another wonderful effect from sarcoidosis...grrrrrr.

"I hope you can find a publisher soon. I would like to have some of your work."

LOL That is only for the classical sheet music though.. I am buying a book that lists lots of them. So I'll go with that for a while. No big deal. When I've written more and are finally happy with the instrumental CD I'll send ya an autographed copy! LOL If you have web access you can hear my songs at http://www.elderwyn.com/compositions Intensity is one of the better ones.

"Of course your letters are works of art"

LMAO I know many who would disagree hahahahaha....you are so good for my ego!

"How are your moving plans going?"

Not good.... 5 months and still looking for somewhere suitable. I picture a lovely water front mansion... I shall keep dreaming cause its a few zeros out of our price range.

"I hope all of your family is doing well. I appreciate their concern for us. I don't have any family close except so I have taken yours. Do you mind sharing?"

Ohh becareful which ones you take... half of them have disowned me and are nasty. However you are welcome to share my hubby (you can have him on his grumpy days) and you are welcome to my mother... my father I don't see much cause he is currently on jury duty....my aunts that are nice are in other parts of the world... so um.. take your pick *grin* And I don't mind sharing." is still so worried....He didn't like the Dr's report one bit."

Being super cool I am sure he does not say that! LOL... always tells me he is just fine.. cause I know its all a crock but hey, "hey" LOL...

He can get help? What is wrong? Stress? Hmmm.... I told him to look after himself or I'd catch up with him.....

No You're the bestest LOL... we are all magnificently wonderful!!

Love ya xox A.

[Guest guest]

Dear Aisha

I'm not able to do anything much. If I stand up I lose my balance, but I try

to think before I move what has to be carried where so that I can keep things

neat and make few trips. This helps keep my mind occupied and sharp as a

tack, hahaha

I thought wrote a beautiful letter. I hope and pray for him every

moment. Thank you for helping.

I'm going to the dr. today. Also learning more about the nurse today {I

hope} so will write again later. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN STAND THE SHOCK. SID

IS VOLUNTEERING TO HELP ME CLEAN UP UNTIL WE GET THE RIGHT NURSE.

He is also calling me are those gooy terms of endearment. I call him Hon.

Old habit.

The nurse called and said that her Dr. wouldn't let her work with me because

of the VRE. She also has autoimmune disease. So I went back to the drawing

board.

Talk to you again tonight Dear One. Love you Carolyn

[Guest guest]

OK Aisha Here goes.

I was on 10mg Predisone in morning, 5mg in even. Now I'm on 10mg period. She

told me the neuro wants to put me back on Imuran. I said NO! She said she

wanted me on Mestinon. I said NO NO NO NO Never again. She laughed.We'll

see how it goes. Next they had me on an antidepressent and I've been

miserable every night so she stopped that also. So I should be feeling

better in a few days. I have never done well on antidepressants. Maybe

because I'm a cocked-eyed optimist.

The VRE is gone. She said it was completely out of my system. I don't

understand but she was addamant about it. If she's right I'm thankful to

God, and to all of you who have been praying about it. The antibiotic I'm to

take is Macrobid it works directly in the kidney and does not go to any other

part of the body.

Well that's all the up date I have so far today except the nurse didn't show

and the cleaning lady didn't show. I may be doing more than going back to

the drawing board. Watch for a vent in the next few days if we don't get

this worked out!!!!!!

How are your hormones today? I'm concerned about what you are going through.

I think you are an inspiration to everyone who knows you. How do you know

the right thing to say at the right time. It really floors me how you always

know.

Hugs and love you always Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Dear Carolyn,

"I'm not able to do anything much. If I stand up I lose my balance, but I try to think before I move what has to be carried where so that I can keep things neat and make few trips. This helps keep my mind occupied and sharp as a tack, hahaha"

LMAO ~ BRAIN FOG ALLERT!!!!!!

Sure babe whatever you say LOL... I believe you uh huh I really do... (lol)

"I thought wrote a beautiful letter. I hope and pray for him every moment. Thank you for helping."

Which particular letter are you refering to hon? And its always a pleasure you know that. *HUG* Give the boy a "hey" from me when you next see him :-)

"I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN STAND THE SHOCK. SID IS VOLUNTEERING TO HELP ME CLEAN UP UNTIL WE GET THE RIGHT NURSE."

OMG!! Thank God I was sitting down!

"He is also calling me are those gooy terms of endearment. I call him Hon. Old habit."

LOL Makes me rather suspecious actually..... like what does he want? I call everyone hon so I know what you mean LOL.

"The VRE is gone. She said it was completely out of my system. I don't understand but she was addamant about it."

Good news babe! Thats absolutely wonderful! *WHOO HOOO*

"Well that's all the up date I have so far today except the nurse didn't show and the cleaning lady didn't show. I may be doing more than going back to the drawing board."

Has this been sorted yet?

"How do you know the right thing to say at the right time. It really floors me how you always know."

Hahaha to quote a good song "Honestly my foot is always in my mouth but the words come out!" I never reveal my sources hehehehe us super hero angelic egotistical people are like that LOL. I personally disagree with you. Most of the time I never know what to say. I just care, thats what most people need. You are the same I know.So how are things now?

Love you too dear one *HUG* talk to you later!

xox Aisha.

[Guest guest]

Dear Aisha

You would not believe what is happening here, Sid is paying so much good

attention to me I am beginning to feel suffocated. Maybe I'm having trouble

breatheing? Seriously, he is being really good about helping me without

complaining. is working very hard and still trying to watch out for

me. He is finally getting a lot of recognition for the wori he is doing at

working. I'm very proud of him, as if you didn't know. I see the Dr. Mon.

and will find out about the breatheing then, I'm still having problems, I

think.

Hope you are resting and getting better. Love you and don't over do with the

moving.

Gentle hugs. Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Dear Carolyn,

"I see the Dr. Mon. and will find out about the breatheing then, I'm still having problems, I think."

Just checking up on you to see how you went at the Dr's and how your breathing is?

*angel kisses*

Aisha

[Guest guest]

Hi Carolyn, I don't know if others aren't getting your post clearly but I'm

not. It's pink and very blurry. Hope you are doing well today.

Genny/Jodi's Mom

[Guest guest]

Dorie

Thank you for the prayers and angel hugs. You are loved.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Carolyn ..... Your posts are absolutely the easiest for me to read of

all I receive....

I`m computer illiterate but I get my mail on web tv .... could this have

something to do with it? there`s no pink or red, just nice BIG black

letters on a white backround or sometimes white letters on black.

jerry

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

Could you please post the info on Dr. Knoop's website and the newsletter

info? I was just diagnosed with AIH yesterday and would be interested in

some more info.

thanks, Beth

in red ink. That in itself is better because I won't run

> > > out of red ink as quickly. I can't figure out what went wrong.

> > > I have called Hewlett Packard, Canon and Bellsouth, they all say

> > > it is in the Microsoft program " Outlook Express. " Miscrosoft doesn't

> > > give you a phone number on there web site to call them, you have to

> > > e-mail your question and they have to e-mail you back. I'm not real

> > > good with the computer language, I need the step by step instructions

> > > over the phone.

> > > I was able to follow your instructions without any problem

> > > though. Thank you so very much for your help. All help is

> > > appreciated.

> > > By the way, that was the only message I have ever received that

> > > said it was a problem with reading my post.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Nery

I needed that tonight.

Hugs back to you

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Hi, this is Genny. I guess I'm the only one that is receiving your post in

pink. The background is little x all over the page and it is blurry. So if

I don't answer a post from you that's because I can't read it. Well, I'm

glad no one else seems to be having this problem but it's funny that yours is

the only one. Take care, Genny

[Guest guest]

I am getting your mail with the pink x's,too. Very hard to read.

Ginger-gehud119@...

[Guest guest]

This is Pat (Cyndi's Mom). I get your letters in pink also, but they are

not fuzzy. I can read them just fine. Actually, it's a nice change from

all the black and white one.

Re: [ ] Carolyn

>Hi, this is Genny. I guess I'm the only one that is receiving your post in

>pink. The background is little x all over the page and it is blurry. So

if

>I don't answer a post from you that's because I can't read it. Well, I'm

>glad no one else seems to be having this problem but it's funny that yours

is

>the only one. Take care, Genny

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's hard for me to read too.

Beth

Re: [ ] Carolyn

> I am getting your mail with the pink x's,too. Very hard to read.

>

> Ginger-gehud119@...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ginger, I thought I was getting Foggy Brain. Truth is I'v always had

it, LOL Genny