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At 15:44 16.03.99 EST, you wrote:

>Dusan,

>In the archives there is a story by a karen Tripp of her recovery from

>candida. I have a friend that has been diagnosed with an extreme case. Her

>arms are so broken out and itchy that she wears long sleeves. She has no

>energy and is mentally foggy. So I guess the question is, how do we find out

>more about Dr. Pillsner or this protocal that he recommends as spoken of by

> Tripp.

>

>Thank you for all info,

>edith

Hello Edith,

I have been in e-mail Conversation with and I think that she is a

nice person.

On this page she has Address of her Dr.

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/thanks.htm

This is from her page:

Naturally, I'd like to thank the doctor who I considered saved my life.

Dr. Piller's office is now online at

http://www.nidlink.com/~bblinzler

Dr. R. Piller

Naturopathic Physician

5920 Government Way, Suite 6

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 83814

(208) 772-9502

He does the following:

Naturopathic medicine, manipulation, physiotherapy, homeopathy, iridology,

hypnosis, biofeedback, allergy treatment, electro-acupuncture, bio-magnetic

balancing.

I also want to thank Geocities, for providing this opportunity to let the

world know of my experience and that candida can be beaten.

______________________________________________________

Here are the other URL from the web site of Tripp:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/mystory.htm

Here is her E-mail

ktripp@...

Tripp: Candida Recovery

If you have suffered for YEARS from candida, and someone said to you

" there's a doctor who has a reputation for curing candida in 30 days " ,

would you go to him? I did, and his program worked.

And if you had fibromyalgia and that same someone then said to you,

" fibromyalgia and candida are one and the same, and it can be cured in 30

days " , would you give the doctor a try?

Tripp

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Carolyn,

Yes, Candidiasis can cause vaginal burning, itching or discharge.

Re: RE: new member

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> >> > From: 1005@...

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> >> >

> >> >

> >> > That is great how the olive leaf extract cleared up your candida and

> >your

> >> > ankle problem. As I have been reading about candidas I have come

> across

> >> > several articles that say it does cause inflammations to be more

> >> bothersome.

> >> > This explains why yours has pretty much cleared up. I also read that

> it

> >> > aggravates such things as atheletes food problems..

> >> >

> >> > I did check out the website and the cost is about 27.00 US money.

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> >is

> >> > something worth checking into..

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> >> > Thanks for the great advice

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> >> > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to:

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In a message dated 10/30/99 5:55:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

healthynut@... writes:

<< Carolyn,

Yes, Candidiasis can cause vaginal burning, itching or discharge.

>>

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And ...how would you know this?? (just a joke) Edith

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> I have CANDIDA and have been fighting it for a year now. I have a horrid time

> sticking to the diet, and never do well for more than two days. It's too hard

> avoiding meat, dairy, sugar and carbs when trying to fight candida and >

parasites.a

I look at the candida diet another way due to not wanting to strain my

brain over what I'm eating too much. You could try looking at it in a

way to try and get vitality out of your food. You might eat a few

no-nos but a lot of food that will give you strength. Make sure you are

getting your amino acids, nutrients, etc. and don't rake yourself over

if you eat a piece of cake or something. Get out and walk, get morning

sun, etc. Eat food that is easy to digest and keep the bowels moving,

etc. I don't have a lot of absolute dietary no-nos except meat and

that's just a personal preference. J.

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At 03:30 PM 25/12/1999 -0000, you wrote:

<<<Dear All

<Several days ago, was mailing Bob on this list re Awareness products. He

happened to mention candida which I had heard of before but not looked

into. He kindly mailed me with a comprehensive list of symptoms. 18 of

these (over a period of time) applied to me and I was SHOCKED! (I'm far

from the kind of person to read a list of symptoms and think ' oooh, I've

got this illness').>

<After intensive research on net/books, hv bought all the necessary anti

fungals/supplements/vits/mins and been doing diet etc for last 5 days.

Realised that, this morning am feeling positive/optimistic/energetic for

the first time in years!!!! It's like re-joining life. I'd recommend

that everyone investigate this subject - it may well be your 'missing link'.>

<A big thanks to Bob and everyone on this list for their input to help

others and MERRY Christmas!>

>>>

It is wonderful to hear that this information has helped you!! :-) It is

another example of the importance of self-help and enquiry - very valuable

survival tools for this world we live in.

I too would like to thank all those who have kindly shared their

experiences and knowledge on the list. It has become a valuable resource

and much appreciated.

Bob

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Dear Bonner,

A complementary physician is a medical doctor who also uses natural, holistic

methods, such as Dr. Atkins (I guess he's the most famous--you can read any

of his books. He also uses vitamin drips in his clinic.). The vitamin drip

takes about 1 1/2 hours, and is not usually uncomfortable. If you have

Candida or some other problems, nutrients may not be absorbed properly--hence

dumping them directly into the bloodstream. I don't know all the vitamins

and minerals in the drip, and I guess they may vary from patient to patient.

The ones I know are vitamins C and Bs, plus I think magnesium and other

minerals (not sure on that one). When I do the drips regularly, I don't get

sick--if I don't, I'm prone to colds and flus (although I take a lot of

vitamins, I've been told by complementary doctors that I don't metabolize

them properly). If you need info on complementary doctors, start w/Atkins's

book. I don't know if he lists any other doctors, but you might be able to

call him for a list of doctors in your area (his name is Dr. Atkins,

and he practices in NYC).

AntJoan

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Dear Bonner,

As usual, your question is a good one, and as a non-medical professional, I

can't supply the answer. I'm sure the physician can, though. As for the

time spend w/the drip--I use the time by reading, and sometimes I meet

fascinating, like-minded folks there (we all sit in one big room), with whom

I can talk and learn. I don't know, however, if you even need the drip, or

if your local alternative physician does them. Let me know what you find out.

Good luck,

AntJoan

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AntJoan, you're such a good friend ... always there with good advice.

Memphis is not New York City, but I do know that we have physicians who also

practice holistic medicine. I was in property management for years and

leased space to a doctor who uses alternative approaches, as well as

conventional ones. I think I'll call him tomorrow. I hate the idea of being

incompacitated for an hour and half (HYPER) for the drip, but I'm ready to

feel better. One question: if our systems " dump " nutrients directly into

the bloodstream, how is an IV drip beneficial?

Thanks, Bonner

Re: Candida

> Dear Bonner,

>

> A complementary physician is a medical doctor who also uses natural,

holistic

> methods, such as Dr. Atkins (I guess he's the most famous--you can read

any

> of his books. He also uses vitamin drips in his clinic.). The vitamin

drip

> takes about 1 1/2 hours, and is not usually uncomfortable. If you have

> Candida or some other problems, nutrients may not be absorbed

properly--hence

> dumping them directly into the bloodstream. I don't know all the vitamins

> and minerals in the drip, and I guess they may vary from patient to

patient.

> The ones I know are vitamins C and Bs, plus I think magnesium and other

> minerals (not sure on that one). When I do the drips regularly, I don't

get

> sick--if I don't, I'm prone to colds and flus (although I take a lot of

> vitamins, I've been told by complementary doctors that I don't metabolize

> them properly). If you need info on complementary doctors, start

w/Atkins's

> book. I don't know if he lists any other doctors, but you might be able

to

> call him for a list of doctors in your area (his name is Dr.

Atkins,

> and he practices in NYC).

>

> AntJoan

>

>

>

>

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AntJoan, as usual, you provide good, useful advice. I'll check my insurance

for providers and then call Dr. Marshall's office tomorrow if he's on my

list. Isn't it awful that we're limited to whom we can use because of

insurance? I love to read, so perhaps I can view the time on the drip as a

" mini-vacation " and not worry about the time spent away from work. I like

visitng with people and hope there will be " like minds " there in the

reception area of the doctor's office with whom I can visit. I'm glad to

know that you weren't confined to a consultation room for he drip. I'll ask

to not be confined during my procedure and I believe that will make me feel

less anxious. It's so good to have the benefit of others' experiences!

=====

Bonner

Re: Candida

>

> Dear Bonner,

>

> As usual, your question is a good one, and as a non-medical professional,

I

> can't supply the answer. I'm sure the physician can, though. As for the

> time spend w/the drip--I use the time by reading, and sometimes I meet

> fascinating, like-minded folks there (we all sit in one big room), with

whom

> I can talk and learn. I don't know, however, if you even need the drip,

or

> if your local alternative physician does them. Let me know what you find

out.

>

> Good luck,

> AntJoan

>

>

>

>

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Did you know there are a couple good candida lists on e-groups?? Just go

there and search " candida " . One is called candidiasis, and not sure what the

other is... I think it might be called " anti-candida " . I belong to both, and

they are very helpful. Also a website at www.healthyawareness.com has a

whole candida forum, including a recipe board. I visit the candida forum

daily.... there's lot of good info there, and some very knowledgable folks

who can answer almost every question.

Lynn

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Very interesting Helge...hope you continue when you can load all the

pages. I went there but the english page is still under construction.

Groetjes,

Barbara

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Oh, thanks. I will be on the outlook. The research paper is available, though.

I take the opportinity of withdrawing and apologizing for the

personal attack on some writers of web sites that I made in that post.

-- Helge

>Very interesting Helge...hope you continue when you can load all the

>pages. I went there but the english page is still under construction.

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Hi Kate, Ask your doctor for a Candida test. Mine was done with a stool sample. They will measure the amount of candida in your stool. Candida albicans (yeast) is in all our bodies, but it thrives on sugar, like mold on bread. When we consume too much sugar or carbs which become sugar in our bodies, that's when candida overgrowth can occur. I don't know if medical doctors (allopaths) share this belief, however naturopaths believe that candida overgrowth can hinder proper organ function, especially when it is in the inner linings of our colon. One sign of overgrowth is on your tongue. If it is coated white or thick like cottage cheese, that's candida. A friend of mine who is diabetic has a very very white coated tongue. She eats more sugar and carbs than her body can metabolise. A very strict candida diet is staying away from sugar completely, and fruits as well. You can have vegetables, but not root vegetables because they contain a lot of sugars. This is done for about six weeks, because that is the period of time it would take for excess candida to be eliminated. When you cut off their supply of food, which is sugars, they have nothing to thrive on, so they die. It is very difficult if you love sugary foods, but the results are well worth it. There's lots of books about candida. If you go to a health food store or, better yet, a used book store, or "Half.com" (a website which sells used books really cheap), you will find lots of titles. I don't know the best one. I have a few titles but I am in the midst of reorganizing my home, which is extremely disorganised (!) so I don't know where a lot of things are. But when I come across them, I will email you the titles and info. If you want a book on it, I will even mail you one if you can't find one. I don't know where you live, but Seattle is a haven for natural food stores and books about diets like the Candida diet. Let me know....... Hope this helps. I am sure others in our group who know about this will chip in more info and their personal experiences as well! smiles, aisha [ ] Candida What is this Candida diet? How do you know if you need to be tested for it? kate forbis

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AISHA,

For those of us who have moderate to severe liver damage a diet this limiting

could be very dangerous. I don't dispute that for some people it probably

works but I would not think of starting such a strict diet before clearing it

with my hepatologist.

Just my input.

.

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, You're absolutely right. Any major changes - and a restrictive diet is a major change - should be cleared with the hepatologist. Thanks, aisha Re: [ ] Candida AISHA,For those of us who have moderate to severe liver damage a diet this limiting could be very dangerous. I don't dispute that for some people it probably works but I would not think of starting such a strict diet before clearing it with my hepatologist.Just my input..

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That is what I'm going through too! Just because they have an MD after their

name soesn't mean that they know more than we do about our bodies!

Good luck!

I feel so sick today. Think it's emotional too! (I'm in NY).

Lynne

>i am diagnose with candida. the dr. died the day after i got

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>my first shot. i am going to another dr. now. i went

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>to him yesterday and he told me that candida was hogwash

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>i looked at him and asked how could so

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>many people have the same systom. he told me that there

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>do have a problem and it's not in our head. this makes me so

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>mad when dr. does this. i'v been told that we need to go

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>know what he says.

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LYNNE.

I SURE HOPE YOU WILL START FELLING BETTER.

DO YOU KNOW IF NIZORAL MAKES YOU HAVE DY-OFF

I HAVE TOOK 2 PILLS , I FILL OKAY, BUT I HAVE ALOT

OF STUFF COMING UP OUT OF MY LUNGS. I CAN NOT

BELIEVE THERE IS SO MANY PEOPLE THAT IS SICK

WITH THIS. THIS CAN NOT BE EVERY BODIES MIND.

I WILL SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU

BUG

Re: candida

That is what I'm going through too! Just because they have an MD after their

name soesn't mean that they know more than we do about our bodies!

Good luck!

I feel so sick today. Think it's emotional too! (I'm in NY).

Lynne

>i am diagnose with candida. the dr. died the day after i got

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>my first shot. i am going to another dr. now. i went

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>to him yesterday and he told me that candida was hogwash

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>i looked at him and asked how could so

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>many people have the same systom. he told me that there

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>is no doctor in the world that can say that we have candida.

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>i have been reading so much about this, that we all have

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>do have a problem and it's not in our head. this makes me so

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>mad when dr. does this. i'v been told that we need to go

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>to a internnal organ dr. i'm going to call one today.i let you

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>know what he says.

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>bug

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13 years ago I started having a hard time concentrating, was slightly

dizzy, had sore throats, ear aches, chills, fevers, was very

irritable. After seeing 12 doctors and specialists, and after having

numerous tests run, along with a mri, the best solution that they

could come up with was to try anti-biotics, which made me worse.

Since none of them could figure out what was wrong with me, they told

me that it was in my head and that I should seek psychiatric help,

the neurologist that I saw even went as far as to prescribe an

addictive anti depressant for me.

Guess what bug....I got candida.

I've been seeing a Naturopath.

I don't want to bore everyone here, if you want to contact me bug, my

email address is slickrick605@...

I'm currently going through the die off again as I write this,

apparently I never got completely rid of it before, having a host of

other problems related to it.

-- In candidiasis@y..., " bug512003 " <tbeard24@c...> wrote:

> i am diagnose with candida. the dr. died the day after i got

>

> my first shot. i am going to another dr. now. i went

>

> to him yesterday and he told me that candida was hogwash

>

> i looked at him and asked how could so

>

> many people have the same systom. he told me that there

>

> is no doctor in the world that can say that we have candida.

>

> i have been reading so much about this, that we all have

>

> do have a problem and it's not in our head. this makes me so

>

> mad when dr. does this. i'v been told that we need to go

>

> to a internnal organ dr. i'm going to call one today.i let you

>

> know what he says.

>

> bug

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You're probably having a problem with mold due to the rain. Make sure

that your home is free from mold. I have a small hepa air filter in

my bedroom, and an ionizer in my living room.

> HI

> HOWS EVEYBODY DOING TODAY. WE ARE HAVING A LOT OFF

> RAIN HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINIA. I HAVE BEEN HAVING SOME TROUBLE

> WITH MY MIND FOR A FEW WEEKS I'S GETTING WORSE THIS

> PAST WEEK. I'M GETTING WHERE I CAN'NT REMENBER IF

> I'VE TOOK MY MEDICINE OR NOT. I'M GOING TO START WRITING

> DOWN WHAT I TOOK AND THE TIME. THIS IS SCARY. SOMETIMES WHEN

> I POST A MESSAGES I GET ALL CONFUSSED.ABOUT WHAT I'M

> GOING TO WRITE AND I CAN'NT FIGURE THE KEYS OUT,AND MY

> HANDS WANTS TO SHAKE AND JERK

>

> IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE GO THROUGH THIS.

> BUG

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..

you start out with 1/4 t. twice a day and the silver and oregano you take 3

times a day.. I have tried many silver products and didn't even touch my

candida problem I found out later because the PPM particle size etc was too

large

You should go to www.naturalhealingsolutions.com

and read up!! Everything is described there on the site and if you do this

protocol your candida will be thing of the past like it is for me now!

jen

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Thanks !

I guess what I meant was that I am done with the Candida cleansing supplements

that I was taking. I am still on the diet and have grown accustom to it and

will be staying with diet because I know the over growth can come back if I go

back to my old way of eating.

My Natural Health Practitioner had me fill out that Candida questioner and

because my symptoms matched those of the candida suffers, she told me I had

Candida. I do feel much better, but I want to keep taking those supplements

that I need.

Thanks!

in CA

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