asthma

[Guest guest]

Karma is it possible that your daughter still has some parasites.You

might let her try different herbs, for instance the black

walnut/cloves/wormwood capsules with the iodine tincture.

marianne

[Guest guest]

Yes, nne,

It is very possible. She still had yeast breakouts on her skin, so, I'm

sure she still has parasites. I just hadn't decided if I was going to do

about it. I have a product called Aqua-Flora that you can get at most

health food stores, or I do carry it.

http://www.loaves-n-fishes.com/aquaflora.htm Which I have been putting on

her rashes. They are going away. I think giving her the combination you

suggest is a good idea. Maybe the Wormwood combination from Kroeger. I

just hadn't decided if I wanted to go with the Olive Leaf Extract, the

kroeger wormwood combination, or the Awareness Clear. I'm going to do

something though. :-)

Which product where you thinking of specifically? Maybe it is one that I

carry, that always makes it easier. :-)

~Karma

http://loaves-n-fishes.com

http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com

Karma is it possible that your daughter still has some parasites.You

might let her try different herbs, for instance the black

walnut/cloves/wormwood capsules with the iodine tincture.

marianne

[Guest guest]

Hello Judy,

I'm sorry you are going through such an ordeal and don't have any

suggestions, unfortunately. Just some thoughts.

After many years of chest pain that has never been diagnosed, along with

terrible fatigue, this week I had pulmonary function tests and found out I

have an abnormally low oxygen saturation level. I don't see the pulmonologist

for 3 more weeks and I'll have an echocardiogram before I see her (I'm really

glad she is being so thorough) but from what I can gather on the net, low

oxygen saturation level can account for A LOT of what I've been going

through: exhaustion, inability to think straight, irritability, waking up

with terrible headaches. I am VERY hopeful that with oxygen I'll be better

able to function but a little apprehensive about what she'll discover as the

cause of this condition.

I've been wondering how many of us may suffer from this problem and not know

it. I mean, I saw scores of doctors, including 2 pulmonologists in the past

(though not in recent years) and nobody ever orderd this test for me before.

Maybe the technology just wasn't there until recently, I don't know, and

maybe (probably) it's not going to solve the whole fatigue problem and I'm

not going to become an ice hockey player after all (joke). But I'm hopeful.

I'd be interested to know if others on this list have had that diagnosis or

been treated with oxygen.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Dear list,

I feel like my breathing/mouth/etc. problems are never ending. I had sinus

surgery three weeks ago, the sinuses are open but the infection doesn't

seem

to be going away in spite of the antibiotics, I'm on my second one. I also

noticed a sticky glue like substance (white, clear) which I thought was

coming out of my nose and down my throat making me choke.

Now it appears to be like asthma, and I can't tell what is coming out of my

nose and what is coming out of my throat, I had to take ventolin for three

days running and am going to a pulmonary specialist tomorrow to see whether

I should take a cortisone inhalator for the lungs.

Four and a half years ago, at age 38, before having anything else (two

years ago I came down with CFS) I suddenly came down with asthma, used a

cortisone inhalator for six months and it went away, a few months later -

one year to the week of the first episode - I had another asthma episode,

used the

inhalator under doctors instructions for 30 days and it never came back.

Now, three and a half years later, it seems to be back and I don't know what

triggered it - the sinus surgery, the stuff coming down from my now open

sinuses, the antibiotics, an allergy (I'm also itching in various places and

the dermatologist claims an allergy - not dry skin) which may be the cause

of the never ending sinus infection even after surgery, or what.

I don't have any pain in the

chest but am coughing all the time and this funny sticky glue-like

clear-white phlegm comes up...I remember something similar four years ago,

but then, as I said, it went away.

Any personal experiences, suggestions etc. would be welcome.

Many thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

Dave,

Not sure which treatment you are on, but I know the

Peg they say yes. I have severe allergies and take

allergy shots. Sometimes in really dusty, moldy areas

I go into an asthmatic attack. My allergist gave me

an inhaler on top of it. But I did not go on the Peg.

On the Interferon/ribiveron I had all kinds of

problems including breathing and stopped treatment

after 3 weeks. Dana

--- dave812 <no_reply > wrote:

> Has anyone in this group had asthma problems after

> starting combo

> treatment? I may have had a mild case of asthma

> before starting tx

> but lately it's hard to catch my breath. My doctor

> has me trying an

> inhaler to see if it helps any. Has this come up

> with anyone else?

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dave,

Not sure which treatment you are on, but I know the

Peg they say yes. I have severe allergies and take

allergy shots. Sometimes in really dusty, moldy areas

I go into an asthmatic attack. My allergist gave me

an inhaler on top of it. But I did not go on the Peg.

On the Interferon/ribiveron I had all kinds of

problems including breathing and stopped treatment

after 3 weeks. Dana

--- dave812 <no_reply > wrote:

> Has anyone in this group had asthma problems after

> starting combo

> treatment? I may have had a mild case of asthma

> before starting tx

> but lately it's hard to catch my breath. My doctor

> has me trying an

> inhaler to see if it helps any. Has this come up

> with anyone else?

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

NO! I haven't had that problem. what I want to know has anybody had real bad

diarrhea and heartburn? I have went to the bathroom 10 times today! that started

though, before treatment, I think due to having my gallbladder out! I have to

be very careful when I am out. that is one reason I am afraid to drive. also

when I walk my legs hurt, it stops as soon as I do. anyone had that??

CAROL

Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

Or Lift Me Above Them;

It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

Crowley

[Guest guest]

NO! I haven't had that problem. what I want to know has anybody had real bad

diarrhea and heartburn? I have went to the bathroom 10 times today! that started

though, before treatment, I think due to having my gallbladder out! I have to

be very careful when I am out. that is one reason I am afraid to drive. also

when I walk my legs hurt, it stops as soon as I do. anyone had that??

CAROL

Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

Or Lift Me Above Them;

It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

Crowley

[Guest guest]

Hi...I dont have asthma but from what I understand the

treatments can cause breathing difficulty. It has

something to do with red blood cells. I know that

there is probably someone else with more info for you

but please take it easy and God Bless.

Love in His Light

Sandy

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[Guest guest]

Hi...I dont have asthma but from what I understand the

treatments can cause breathing difficulty. It has

something to do with red blood cells. I know that

there is probably someone else with more info for you

but please take it easy and God Bless.

Love in His Light

Sandy

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Carol,

I have acid reflux so bad that my esophages is

inflamed. I half to take Previcid for it. But I do

half a bone to pick with you. I did not half diarrhea

till you sent this. Have had it for two days now.

Did you send a virus throught the e-mail? Tehee Dana

--- dragonrider <dragonrider@...> wrote:

> NO! I haven't had that problem. what I want to know

> has anybody had real bad diarrhea and heartburn? I

> have went to the bathroom 10 times today! that

> started though, before treatment, I think due to

> having my gallbladder out! I have to be very

> careful when I am out. that is one reason I am

> afraid to drive. also when I walk my legs hurt, it

> stops as soon as I do. anyone had that??

> CAROL

> Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

> Or Lift Me Above Them;

> It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

>

> Crowley

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Carol,

I have acid reflux so bad that my esophages is

inflamed. I half to take Previcid for it. But I do

half a bone to pick with you. I did not half diarrhea

till you sent this. Have had it for two days now.

Did you send a virus throught the e-mail? Tehee Dana

--- dragonrider <dragonrider@...> wrote:

> NO! I haven't had that problem. what I want to know

> has anybody had real bad diarrhea and heartburn? I

> have went to the bathroom 10 times today! that

> started though, before treatment, I think due to

> having my gallbladder out! I have to be very

> careful when I am out. that is one reason I am

> afraid to drive. also when I walk my legs hurt, it

> stops as soon as I do. anyone had that??

> CAROL

> Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

> Or Lift Me Above Them;

> It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

>

> Crowley

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

sorry about that!! I knew I was jinxed Didn't know I could Jinx anyone else

(grin) let me tell you what I did this morning. LOL I got up lit a cig.

grabbed my bottle of water, put my glasses on, went to the bathroom while my

puter warmed up, set down at the puter, and downloaded my Mail. My eyes were

blurry, so I cleaned my glasses, wiped my eyes, everything was still a bit

blurry___ panic city__ as this treatment can affect your eye sight. For about 3

min I kept trying to clean my eyes and then saw I had put s reading

glasses on

CAROL

Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

Or Lift Me Above Them;

It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

Crowley

[Guest guest]

sorry about that!! I knew I was jinxed Didn't know I could Jinx anyone else

(grin) let me tell you what I did this morning. LOL I got up lit a cig.

grabbed my bottle of water, put my glasses on, went to the bathroom while my

puter warmed up, set down at the puter, and downloaded my Mail. My eyes were

blurry, so I cleaned my glasses, wiped my eyes, everything was still a bit

blurry___ panic city__ as this treatment can affect your eye sight. For about 3

min I kept trying to clean my eyes and then saw I had put s reading

glasses on

CAROL

Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves

Or Lift Me Above Them;

It's Too Late To Learn To Swim.

Crowley

[Guest guest]

yes, my asthma became much worse on tx. so did my arthritis, allegies, etc. tx

just really interferes with the immune system making all kinds of fluky things

happen.

0 Tobi Hale, MSW

l_ Colorado State NOW / PAC Coordinator

(/)_. It ain't my revolution if it ain't accessible!

Mal Wart - Your source for cheap plastic junk.

asthma

Has anyone in this group had asthma problems after starting combo

treatment? I may have had a mild case of asthma before starting tx

but lately it's hard to catch my breath. My doctor has me trying an

inhaler to see if it helps any. Has this come up with anyone else?

[Guest guest]

yes, my asthma became much worse on tx. so did my arthritis, allegies, etc. tx

just really interferes with the immune system making all kinds of fluky things

happen.

0 Tobi Hale, MSW

l_ Colorado State NOW / PAC Coordinator

(/)_. It ain't my revolution if it ain't accessible!

Mal Wart - Your source for cheap plastic junk.

asthma

Has anyone in this group had asthma problems after starting combo

treatment? I may have had a mild case of asthma before starting tx

but lately it's hard to catch my breath. My doctor has me trying an

inhaler to see if it helps any. Has this come up with anyone else?

[Guest guest]

yes, my asthma became much worse on tx. so did my arthritis, allegies, etc. tx

just really interferes with the immune system making all kinds of fluky things

happen.

0 Tobi Hale, MSW

l_ Colorado State NOW / PAC Coordinator

(/)_. It ain't my revolution if it ain't accessible!

Mal Wart - Your source for cheap plastic junk.

asthma

Has anyone in this group had asthma problems after starting combo

treatment? I may have had a mild case of asthma before starting tx

but lately it's hard to catch my breath. My doctor has me trying an

inhaler to see if it helps any. Has this come up with anyone else?

[Guest guest]

ok. I have always read that steroids are an absolute not.

Does that mean you have bad asthma Bonnie?

Emo

[Guest guest]

ok. I have always read that steroids are an absolute not.

Does that mean you have bad asthma Bonnie?

Emo

[Guest guest]

Yeah I take 7 meds for asthma and allergies. I am a level 4 asthmatic. I

spent all of last summer on steroids and half of the fall. I was pretty

proud that I didn't have any resp. problems until a couple of weeks ago. I

think the flu and pneumonia vaccines really helped.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Yeah I take 7 meds for asthma and allergies. I am a level 4 asthmatic. I

spent all of last summer on steroids and half of the fall. I was pretty

proud that I didn't have any resp. problems until a couple of weeks ago. I

think the flu and pneumonia vaccines really helped.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Francesca has suffered from asthma since she was a baby, primarily put down

her her prematurity and having been ventilated. this resulted in a condition

called bronchopulmonary dysplasia, where part of her lung didnt work

efficiently because it had become sticky when she was ventilated (simple

explanation).

Docs were hugely reluctant to diagnose asthma in one so young and described

her as a " happy wheezer " meaning that outwardly she looked ok, but her chest

was very poor.

Later when she was under the ENT docs initially for glue ear and later ctoma,

the doc did link the two conditions a bit. He said that it was quite likely

that her eustachian tube didnt work as well as it might and it might account

for large adenoids. the whole lot together causes some kind of nasal cavity

drip, which could account for some of her asthma. They removed her adenoids and

said that it was likely that once those and then the ctoma were removed, that

the asthma would improve, and I have to say that it did slightly.

It is however hard to know how much to attribute to ctoma removal, adenoid

removal, combination of both or simply that she was getting older, as there is a

school of thought that asthma can be cyclical.

You mention sinus problems and I'm wondering if you have some kind of nasal

cavity drip or similar irritation that causes a cough? Repeated coughing in

turn will inflame the airways and make them swollen or " tight " as in asthma.

Asthma drugs, inhalers, will be given for this and work well, as they cause the

airways to expand. Steriod inhalers will limit further inflamation to the

lung lining.

Its not impossible that Francesca's first ctoma was congenital, but this has

never been denyed or confirmed either way. The asthma, well as I said they

dont like to diagnose younsters with it, but within 6 months of each other we

had a confirmed diagnosis of both conditions......so entirely possible the two

things are linked.

Fingers crossed you stay wheeze free and ctoma free, wouldnt it just be nice

to " kill two birds with one stone " !

regards

and Francesca

[Guest guest]

-Is there a reason Asian kids would be effected more than those from

other countries? I dont buy the urbanization theory either. Although

I feel other things might contribute to athsma.

I know plenty of american kids that have athsma also.

April

-- In Vaccinations , Chua Ching Yee <chingy@h...>

wrote:

> A front page report in Singapore papers today. They attribute it to

> " increasing urbanisation " . It should read " increasing vaccination " !

>

> Ching Yee

> ----------------------

> Asthma set to hit 400m worldwide in 20 years By Salma Khalik

>

[Guest guest]

Could be the pollution in Asia, or a matter of statistics, ie, the % of

asthmatics is already high in the west, so the growth rate appears less than

in Asia where the existing % is lower.

Ching Yee

on 17/2/04 7:35 am, Just ask us at billnsummer@... wrote:

> -Is there a reason Asian kids would be effected more than those from

> other countries? I dont buy the urbanization theory either. Although

> I feel other things might contribute to athsma.

>

> I know plenty of american kids that have athsma also.

> April

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is not off topic because it has something to do with the surgery IMO. I

have a predisopsition to asthma and I told the surgeon about it. I may have

been given a different kind of anesthesia but I'm not sure. The one thing

that it did do for me was to get my insurance to approve an overnight stay in

the

hospital - something that I definitely needed!