panic attacks

[Guest guest]

I would second Gracia. How much of the B’s and magnesium do you

take? Both of those are very helpful in bringing on calmness. Maybe you need

higher doses of those.

Donna in IL

the Bs, Iodoral, magnesium etc all seem to help me with

anxiety. you

might need to adjust your dose, you might need thyroid meds.

Gracia

[Guest guest]

Pamela,I use to suffer too and from depression episodes. I have been gluten free for 8 months now and have needed any meds anymore and don't suffer from anxiety or depression anymore. I've never thought that wheat gluten would be a major part of my behavior problems but it was.Just something for you to think about. from IllinoisFrom: Pamela

<prov31mom23@...>iodine Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 9:10:44 AMSubject: Panic attacks

I haven't had a panic attack for years - many years. I used to be claustrophobic to the point that I would panic if the lanes on the highway narrowed down to one with a concrete barrier on one side and construction cones on the other - even if the traffic was moving steadily. If it was stop and go - I was a mess. I had to get on an airplane 3 years ago to visit my husband in Germany. I used to love to fly but hadn't flown overseas since this started. I was terrified I'd panic on the airplane. I was a little anxious but planned ahead and managed to overcome the feeling before it overwhelmed me and had a wonderful "second honeymoon" with . Even now, though, I can't sit on the inner seat of a booth at a restaurant without that closed in feeling but it hasn't turned into a full-fledged panic attack for a long, long time.

About two weeks ago, my husband was playing around. We have a small (very small) coat closet we converted to a toilet (really - only a toilet). I was in there and he pretended to open the door by jiggling the handle loudly. It's a family joke - people do it often (but only with immediate family). Well, he jiggled too much and the door opened. I grabbed the handle (yes - it's that small, I could do that easily), and pulled the door shut, holding it tight. He went stomping up the steps next to the bathroom and then came down a minute later. I heard noise in the keyhole and immediately was in panic mode. I thought he'd gotten the key and was locking the door. In five seconds, I was screaming and crying and ready to break down the old oak door to the bathroom to get out. He had no idea his joke would affect me like that and was very apologetic, but I was shaky and weepy for quite a while afterwards.

Since then, nothing has set me off like that but yesterday I started having mini-mini panic attacks - lasting only 20-30 seconds at most - but they were uncomfortable nonetheless. Nothing reasonable prompted them. One time, it occurred while I was pulling on rather tight snow boots. Another time, I was wrapping a scarf around my neck. Other times, it wasn't related to anything at all that I could identify - most of them occurred while I was in bed trying to get to sleep. I had a terrible time trying to get to sleep. I'd have one of these episodes and couldn't catch my breath as a result. Finally calm down and it would start over again. Oh, it happened while taking my supplements both last night and the night before.

I had migraines for two days that finally ended yesterday. Probably hormonal. These mini episodes overlapped with my headache.

I don't know what to do about these. They really have me spooked. I'm anxious about more attacks, especially since they seem so random and in the past I could usually predict what would precipitate one. Also, I've never had a reaction when I felt breathing was impaired as a result of the attack until the ones I had yesterday. Another reason to panic...seems like it could become a vicious cycle.

Is it possible that iodine or any of the companion supplements or B vitamins could be contributory to this? I have no idea whether the joke played on me is related or not, either. I have no idea how to prevent future attacks - I have no trust in my doctor helping me beyond throwing a prescription my way - a prescription I absolutely will not take. (Oh, years ago, I also had panic attacks over taking a bunch of supplements that I had just added to my routine while doing Loretta's gallbladder/ liver cleanse. I haven't had that reaction for a long, long time until night before last. I'm hesitant to take them today because I don't want to precipitate another one).

Help?

Pamela

[Guest guest]

Currently taking 400 magnesium, 1,000 B12 and a B complex.

I am hypothyroid but have been told I need to raise my ferritin (22) before

going on thyroid meds.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Donna

Iler

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:05 AM

iodine

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

I would second Gracia. How much of the

B’s and magnesium do you take? Both of those are very helpful in bringing

on calmness. Maybe you need higher doses of those.

Donna in IL

[Guest guest]

I'm no expert but could your adrenals be fatigued?  Adrenals usually kick in and help you stay calm and maintain a steady heart beat in stressful situations.  It sounds like when you are getting stressed your adrenals are not kicking in to help you handle it.  Maybe cut back on your iodine or pulse dose while you do more to support your adrenal function.

JolineOn Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Pamela Vasquez <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

 

Currently taking 400 magnesium, 1,000 B12 and a B complex. 

I am hypothyroid but have been told I need to raise my ferritin (22) before

going on thyroid meds.

 

Pamela

 

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Donna

Iler

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:05 AM

iodine

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

I would second Gracia. How much of the

B’s and magnesium do you take? Both of those are very helpful in bringing

on calmness. Maybe you need higher doses of those.

Donna in IL

 

-- Hibiscus Babywww.hibiscusbaby.comwww.venusvanguard.com

[Guest guest]

Just got these results on Saturday:

Estradiol: 1.8 (1.3-3.3)

Progesterone: 47L (75-270)

Ratio: Pg/E2 26 L (Optimal 100-500 when E2

1.3-3.3)

Testosterone 54 (16-47)

DHEAS 12.4 (3.9-11.4 for 31-45

years old or 2.7-8 for 46-60 years old)

Cortisol Morning 11.7 H (3.7-9.5)

Cortisol Noon 2.1 (1.2-3.0)

Cortisol Evening 2.3 H (0.6-1.9)

Cortisol Night 0.3 L (.4-1.0)

Still working on figuring out what I need to do, if

anything. I’ve received conflicting information from various

sources. Nobody seems to think any fatigue is severe, though.

I’m only taking 12.5 Lugol’s at the

moment. Was taking 25 or 37.5 Iodoral a while back but ran out and

started over a few weeks later with the Lugol’s. No reaction like

this on Iodoral. Would a lower dose of Lugol’s be responsible for

this when a higher dose of Iodoral didn’t get this reaction from me?

I don’t understand what I was doing yesterday that

would be interpreted as stressful. I certainly didn’t think putting

on my boots was a stressful situation! In fact, I was pleased that my

husband had just offered to come with me out into the bad weather and drive while

I did what I had to do so we could spend some time together. If you knew

my husband, you’d know he hates going out at night, especially in bad

weather and it was snowing hard at the time. He already had his pajamas

on and had to change to come with me. So I was pleased, not

stressed. Then, the things happening when I was trying to get to

sleep. How could going to sleep be stressful? I just don’t

understand all of this…

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Joline

Sikora

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:35 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

I'm no expert but could your adrenals be

fatigued? Adrenals usually kick in and help you stay calm and maintain a

steady heart beat in stressful situations. It sounds like when you are

getting stressed your adrenals are not kicking in to help you handle it.

Maybe cut back on your iodine or pulse dose while you do more to support your

adrenal function.

[Guest guest]

I was thinking your stressors could be your claustrophobia.  Getting between sheets, enclosing your foot in a boot, wrapping a scarf around your neck, now maybe even just the fear of having a panick attack.  I'm so new to this, so I could be way off....

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Pamela Vasquez <prov31mom23@...> wrote:

 

Just got these results on Saturday:

 

Estradiol: 1.8 (1.3-3.3)

Progesterone: 47L (75-270)

Ratio: Pg/E2 26 L (Optimal 100-500 when E2

1.3-3.3)

Testosterone 54 (16-47)

DHEAS 12.4 (3.9-11.4 for 31-45

years old or 2.7-8 for 46-60 years old)

Cortisol Morning 11.7 H (3.7-9.5)

Cortisol Noon 2.1 (1.2-3.0)

Cortisol Evening 2.3 H (0.6-1.9)

Cortisol Night 0.3 L (.4-1.0)

 

Still working on figuring out what I need to do, if

anything.  I’ve received conflicting information from various

sources.  Nobody seems to think any fatigue is severe, though.

 

I’m only taking 12.5 Lugol’s at the

moment.  Was taking 25 or 37.5 Iodoral a while back but ran out and

started over a few weeks later with the Lugol’s.  No reaction like

this on Iodoral.  Would a lower dose of Lugol’s be responsible for

this when a higher dose of Iodoral didn’t get this reaction from me?

 

I don’t understand what I was doing yesterday that

would be interpreted as stressful.  I certainly didn’t think putting

on my boots was a stressful situation!  In fact, I was pleased that my

husband had just offered to come with me out into the bad weather and drive while

I did what I had to do so we could spend some time together.  If you knew

my husband, you’d know he hates going out at night, especially in bad

weather and it was snowing hard at the time.  He already had his pajamas

on and had to change to come with me.  So I was pleased, not

stressed.  Then, the things happening when I was trying to get to

sleep.  How could going to sleep be stressful?  I just don’t

understand all of this…

 

Pamela

 

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Joline

Sikora

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:35 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

I'm no expert but could your adrenals be

fatigued?  Adrenals usually kick in and help you stay calm and maintain a

steady heart beat in stressful situations.  It sounds like when you are

getting stressed your adrenals are not kicking in to help you handle it. 

Maybe cut back on your iodine or pulse dose while you do more to support your

adrenal function.

 

-- Hibiscus Babywww.hibiscusbaby.comwww.venusvanguard.com

[Guest guest]

I’d never considered that. Crazy, huh? Pretty

ridiculous. But what you say may make sense. I don’t have a

problem with having the sheets or blankets cover me but I can’t be

wrapped up in them tightly. I can’t have my husband wrap his arm

around me over the blankets, pulling them tight, either.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Joline

Sikora

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:58 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

I was thinking your stressors could be your

claustrophobia. Getting between sheets, enclosing your foot in a boot,

wrapping a scarf around your neck, now maybe even just the fear of having a

panick attack. I'm so new to this, so I could be way off....

[Guest guest]

Your labs show that there is an issue with your adrenals which does not help.

You have two high cortisol markers.

You need to look at supporting your adrenals.

>

> I'd never considered that. Crazy, huh? Pretty ridiculous. But what you

> say may make sense. I don't have a problem with having the sheets or

> blankets cover me but I can't be wrapped up in them tightly. I can't have

> my husband wrap his arm around me over the blankets, pulling them tight,

> either.

>

>

>

> Pamela

>

>

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

> Joline Sikora

> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:58 PM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: Panic attacks

>

> I was thinking your stressors could be your claustrophobia. Getting between

> sheets, enclosing your foot in a boot, wrapping a scarf around your neck,

> now maybe even just the fear of having a panick attack. I'm so new to this,

> so I could be way off....

>

[Guest guest]

I’m so new at this that I have no idea how to support my

adrenals. I also have to do the same for every member of my family.

When I got our test results, I felt somewhat like a failure as a caregiver

because we are all in lousy condition. My adrenals are in better

condition than either my youngest daughter or my husband.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:14 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

Your labs show that there is an issue with your

adrenals which does not help. You have two high cortisol markers.

You need to look at supporting your adrenals.

[Guest guest]

You can go two ways with adrenal support either naturally with an adrenal

glandular or hydrocortisone (HC). Personally if you go with HC, find a doctor

who can monitor you. There are lots of adrenal glandulars out there. I take

Allergy Research Groups Adrenal Cortex which works well for me. I also take St

s Wort to stop me stressing or panicking so I don't stress my adrenals.

How do you sleep? How often do you wake up and at what time? Do you have lower

back pain? Especially around your panic attacks.

I do not know very much about your other labs but I can see that your

progesterone is low, your testosterone is high, as is your DHEA which would not

help either.

Maybe there is someone else here who knows more about them.

Hope this helps

>

> I'm so new at this that I have no idea how to support my adrenals. I also

> have to do the same for every member of my family. When I got our test

> results, I felt somewhat like a failure as a caregiver because we are all in

> lousy condition. My adrenals are in better condition than either my

> youngest daughter or my husband.

>

>

>

> Pamela

>

>

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:14 PM

> iodine

> Subject: Re: Panic attacks

>

> Your labs show that there is an issue with your adrenals which does not

> help. You have two high cortisol markers.

>

> You need to look at supporting your adrenals.

>

[Guest guest]

Could be sinus. Use essential oil peppermit on a cloth and breathe. Seems brain will process this and not the panic. Also may need water. weight times 1/2 in ounces.Dennis

Currently taking 400 magnesium, 1,000 B12 and a B complex.

I am hypothyroid but have been told I need to raise my ferritin (22) before

going on thyroid meds.

Pamela

From:

iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodinegroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Donna

Iler

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:05 AM

iodinegroups (DOT) com

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

I would second Gracia. How much of the

B’s and magnesium do you take? Both of those are very helpful in bringing

on calmness. Maybe you need higher doses of those.

Donna in IL

-- Hibiscus Babywww.hibiscusbaby. comwww.venusvanguard. com

[Guest guest]

Interesting observation since I’ve said nothing about sinuses. 

I have had a sinus infection (first one ever) since July.  Two rounds of

antibiotics (yuck!) improved it but did not eradicate it.  I also have some

sort of chronic congestion in my throat that pre-existed the sinus infection,

that wasn’t touched by the antibiotics and that has actually worsened recently.

 It also seems to choke me at night when I am in certain positions and last

night, I was very aware of it and trying to make sure my head did not bend

toward my chest too much, causing that choking or suffocating response, which I

was sure would further increase my anxiety.   Why did you make a connection to

sinus?  I’m intrigued.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of dennis

dragomir

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:47 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

Could be sinus. Use essential oil peppermit on a

cloth and breathe. Seems brain will process this and not the panic.

Also may need water. weight times 1/2 in ounces.

Dennis

[Guest guest]

antibiotics don't work for sinus infections because they are usually fungal and then taking the antibiotics would just allow the fungus to get worse. I hope you are on high levels of probiotics. You may have fungus in your throat that actually spread into the sinus that is very common.

Engtovo

From: Pamela Vasquez

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:10 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

Interesting observation since I’ve said nothing about sinuses. I have had a sinus infection (first one ever) since July. Two rounds of antibiotics (yuck!) improved it but did not eradicate it. I also have some sort of chronic congestion in my throat that pre-existed the sinus infection, that wasn’t touched by the antibiotics and that has actually worsened recently. It also seems to choke me at night when I am in certain positions and last night, I was very aware of it and trying to make sure my head did not bend toward my chest too much, causing that choking or suffocating response, which I was sure would further increase my anxiety. Why did you make a connection to sinus? I’m intrigued.

Pamela

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of dennis dragomirSent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:47 PMiodine Subject: Re: Panic attacks

Could be sinus. Use essential oil peppermit on a cloth and breathe. Seems brain will process this and not the panic. Also may need water. weight times 1/2 in ounces.

Dennis

[Guest guest]

you can use a solution of 5 % baking soda with q-tip to push deep in your nose and the sinuses will be ok.otherwise product from xlear for the nose.

 

http://www.iherb.com/Xlear-Inc-Xclear?p=2 & sr=0

 

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Engtovo <engtovo@...> wrote:

 

antibiotics don't work for sinus infections because they are  usually fungal and then taking the antibiotics would just allow the fungus to get worse.  I hope you are on high levels of probiotics.  You may have fungus in your throat that actually spread into the sinus that is very common.

 

Engtovo

From: Pamela Vasquez

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:10 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

 

Interesting observation since I’ve said nothing about sinuses.  I have had a sinus infection (first one ever) since July.  Two rounds of antibiotics (yuck!) improved it but did not eradicate it.  I also have some sort of chronic congestion in my throat that pre-existed the sinus infection, that wasn’t touched by the antibiotics and that has actually worsened recently.  It also seems to choke me at night when I am in certain positions and last night, I was very aware of it and trying to make sure my head did not bend toward my chest too much, causing that choking or suffocating response, which I was sure would further increase my anxiety.   Why did you make a connection to sinus?  I’m intrigued.

Pamela

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of dennis dragomir

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:47 PMiodine Subject: Re: Panic attacks

Could be sinus.  Use essential oil peppermit on a cloth and breathe.  Seems brain will process this and not the panic.  Also may need water.  weight times 1/2 in ounces.

Dennis 

[Guest guest]

Pamela,

Many people treat the hypo with thyroid meds and work on raising

their ferritin levels at the same time. My doctors saw no problem with doing

both, so I would get started. The body is working together, and you can’t

really just fix one thing at a time.

Donna in IL

Currently taking 400 magnesium, 1,000

B12 and a B complex. I am hypothyroid but have been told I need to raise

my ferritin (22) before going on thyroid meds.

Pamela

[Guest guest]

I read somewhere that low iron can give rise to panic attacks?

From: <cindychurch@...>Subject: Re: Panic attacksiodine Date: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010, 18:42

You can go two ways with adrenal support either naturally with an adrenal glandular or hydrocortisone (HC). Personally if you go with HC, find a doctor who can monitor you. There are lots of adrenal glandulars out there. I take Allergy Research Groups Adrenal Cortex which works well for me. I also take St s Wort to stop me stressing or panicking so I don't stress my adrenals.How do you sleep? How often do you wake up and at what time? Do you have lower back pain? Especially around your panic attacks.I do not know very much about your other labs but I can see that your progesterone is low, your testosterone is high, as is your DHEA which would not help either.Maybe there is someone else here who knows more about them.Hope this helps>> I'm so new at this that I have no idea how to support my adrenals. I also> have to do the same for every member of my family. When I got our test> results, I felt somewhat like a failure as a caregiver because we are all in> lousy condition. My adrenals are in better condition than either my> youngest daughter or my husband.> > > > Pamela> > > > From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodinegroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of>

> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:14 PM> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Panic attacks> > Your labs show that there is an issue with your adrenals which does not> help. You have two high cortisol markers.> > You need to look at supporting your adrenals.>

[Guest guest]

What do you consider high levels of probiotics?  I remember you

mentioning this in the past – or somebody else did, perhaps.  The throat thing

has been going on for longer than the sinus infection but it has worsened.  I

would love to get rid of it but my doctor practically ignored me when I mentioned

this problem to him.  I’d even done research on my own before somebody here

mentioned the possibility of fungal infection and found that online.  Mentioned

it to him and he did ignore me.  Yet I feel like I am gagging frequently

throughout the day and at night, I’m afraid it will choke or suffocate me.  I

can’t imagine what would happen if I got a bad cold like I did this time last

year.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Engtovo

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:35 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

antibiotics don't work for sinus infections because they

are usually fungal and then taking the antibiotics would just allow the

fungus to get worse. I hope you are on high levels of probiotics.

You may have fungus in your throat that actually spread into the sinus that is

very common.

[Guest guest]

How do you get a solution of 5% baking soda. And is it

regular kitchen baking soda? What does it do?

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ido

zahavi

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:48 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Panic attacks

you can use a solution of 5 % baking soda with q-tip to push

deep in your nose and the sinuses will be ok.otherwise product from xlear for

the nose.

http://www.iherb.com/Xlear-Inc-Xclear?p=2 & sr=0

[Guest guest]

Really?  That’s VERY interesting, if true because my 16 year old

has had panic attacks for years and her ferritin level is only 6.

Pamela

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of david kenna

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:24 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Panic attacks

I read somewhere that low iron can give rise to panic

attacks?

[Guest guest]

Here is a link you may find interesting.

http://www.overcomingpanicattacks.net/iron-deficiency-and-panic-attacks.php

From: Pamela Vasquez <prov31mom23@...>Subject: RE: Re: Panic attacksiodine Date: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010, 22:46

Really? That’s VERY interesting, if true because my 16 year old has had panic attacks for years and her ferritin level is only 6.

Pamela

From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodine] On Behalf Of david kennaSent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:24 PMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Re: Panic attacks

I read somewhere that low iron can give rise to panic attacks?

[Guest guest]

I found out about wheat sensitivities about 5 years ago. Here are a couple of

well written articles that explain the issue with WGA.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/page/dark-side-wheat-new-perspectives-celiac-disease\

-wheat-intolerance-sayer-ji

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/content/opening-pandoras-bread-box-critical-role-whe\

at-lectin-human-disease

Good luck.

Galen

>

> Pamela,

> I use to suffer too and from depression episodes. I have been gluten free for

8 months now and have needed any meds anymore and don't suffer from anxiety or

depression anymore.

> I've never thought that wheat gluten would be a major part of my behavior

problems but it was.

> Just something for you to think about.

>

> from Illinois

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela <prov31mom23@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 9:10:44 AM

> Subject: Panic attacks

>

>

> I haven't had a panic attack for years - many years. I used to be

claustrophobic to the point that I would panic if the lanes on the highway

narrowed down to one with a concrete barrier on one side and construction cones

on the other - even if the traffic was moving steadily. If it was stop and go -

I was a mess. I had to get on an airplane 3 years ago to visit my husband in

Germany. I used to love to fly but hadn't flown overseas since this started. I

was terrified I'd panic on the airplane. I was a little anxious but planned

ahead and managed to overcome the feeling before it overwhelmed me and had a

wonderful " second honeymoon " with . Even now, though, I can't sit on the

inner seat of a booth at a restaurant without that closed in feeling but it

hasn't turned into a full-fledged panic attack for a long, long time.

>

> About two weeks ago, my husband was playing around. We have a small (very

small) coat closet we converted to a toilet (really - only a toilet). I was in

there and he pretended to open the door by jiggling the handle loudly. It's a

family joke - people do it often (but only with immediate family). Well, he

jiggled too much and the door opened. I grabbed the handle (yes - it's that

small, I could do that easily), and pulled the door shut, holding it tight. He

went stomping up the steps next to the bathroom and then came down a minute

later. I heard noise in the keyhole and immediately was in panic mode. I

thought he'd gotten the key and was locking the door. In five seconds, I was

screaming and crying and ready to break down the old oak door to the bathroom to

get out. He had no idea his joke would affect me like that and was very

apologetic, but I was shaky and weepy for quite a while afterwards.

>

> Since then, nothing has set me off like that but yesterday I started having

mini-mini panic attacks - lasting only 20-30 seconds at most - but they were

uncomfortable nonetheless. Nothing reasonable prompted them. One time, it

occurred while I was pulling on rather tight snow boots. Another time, I was

wrapping a scarf around my neck. Other times, it wasn't related to anything at

all that I could identify - most of them occurred while I was in bed trying to

get to sleep. I had a terrible time trying to get to sleep. I'd have one of

these episodes and couldn't catch my breath as a result. Finally calm down and

it would start over again. Oh, it happened while taking my supplements both

last night and the night before.

>

> I had migraines for two days that finally ended yesterday. Probably hormonal.

These mini episodes overlapped with my headache.

>

> I don't know what to do about these. They really have me spooked. I'm

anxious about more attacks, especially since they seem so random and in the past

I could usually predict what would precipitate one. Also, I've never had a

reaction when I felt breathing was impaired as a result of the attack until the

ones I had yesterday. Another reason to panic...seems like it could become a

vicious cycle.

>

> Is it possible that iodine or any of the companion supplements or B vitamins

could be contributory to this? I have no idea whether the joke played on me is

related or not, either. I have no idea how to prevent future attacks - I have

no trust in my doctor helping me beyond throwing a prescription my way - a

prescription I absolutely will not take. (Oh, years ago, I also had panic

attacks over taking a bunch of supplements that I had just added to my routine

while doing Loretta's gallbladder/ liver cleanse. I haven't had that reaction

for a long, long time until night before last. I'm hesitant to take them today

because I don't want to precipitate another one).

>

> Help?

>

> Pamela

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[Guest guest]

Gluten in the diet also cause anemia and there are a lot of folks in this world that are walking around with celiac disease and don't it. Take gluten out of your diet for a month or two is what I would first suggest to do. Are food especially the pre packaged ann canned foods and processed foods are full of gluten. No wheat, barley, rye or gluten for a few months and I bet you'll feel 100% better.A diet of whole foods, meat, fruits and vegetables and stay away from the processed crap is the way to find out the easy way, don't you think? from IllinoisFrom: david kenna <davidjohnkenna@...>iodine Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 5:30:29 PMSubject: RE: Re: Panic attacks

Here is a link you may find interesting.

http://www.overcomi ngpanicattacks. net/iron- deficiency- and-panic- attacks.php

From: Pamela Vasquez <prov31mom23@ roadrunner. com>Subject: RE: Re: Panic attacksiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, 10 February, 2010, 22:46

Really? That’s VERY interesting, if true because my 16 year old has had panic attacks for years and her ferritin level is only 6.

Pamela

From: iodinegroups (DOT) com [mailto:iodine] On Behalf Of david kennaSent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:24 PMiodinegroups (DOT) comSubject: Re: Re: Panic attacks

I read somewhere that low iron can give rise to panic attacks?

[Guest guest]

Have you tried a neti pot with phamaceutical grade salt (made just for the neti pot) then add a drop of iodine? I also read after your all done using the pot to lay your head slightly upside down to made sure the residue water flows all the way up into the sinuses. Pat

iodine From: prov31mom23@...Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:43:21 -0500Subject: RE: Panic attacks

What do you consider high levels of probiotics? I remember you mentioning this in the past – or somebody else did, perhaps. The throat thing has been going on for longer than the sinus infection but it has worsened. I would love to get rid of it but my doctor practically ignored me when I mentioned this problem to him. I’d even done research on my own before somebody here mentioned the possibility of fungal infection and found that online. Mentioned it to him and he did ignore me. Yet I feel like I am gagging frequently throughout the day and at night, I’m afraid it will choke or suffocate me. I can’t imagine what would happen if I got a bad cold like I did this time last year.

Pamela

From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of EngtovoSent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:35 PMiodine Subject: Re: Panic attacks

antibiotics don't work for sinus infections because they are usually fungal and then taking the antibiotics would just allow the fungus to get worse. I hope you are on high levels of probiotics. You may have fungus in your throat that actually spread into the sinus that is very common.

[Guest guest]

Umm, my canned foods are things like canned corn, pinto beans,

kidney beans, etc.  The most complex canned item is diced tomatoes with green

chilies or stewed tomatoes with basil, garlic and onion.  Would those really

have gluten in them?  If so, why?

It might seem the easy way to you but if you are used to cooking

with flour or products containing flour, it’s not quite so simple.  Pasta? 

Cream sauces?  I don’t know of any way to make chicken divan without thickening

my white sauce with flour…so it’s really about learning an entirely different

way of cooking.  I don’t cook with convenience foods other than canned goods –

not frozen dinners, no bags of frozen stir fry, etc., but we do use a lot of

wheat in our diet.

Not that I’m not willing to try…just feeling a little

overwhelmed right now with all the changes I am already making (or trying to

make) in order to increase the nutrient value of the food we eat.

Pamela

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of ND

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:24 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Re: Panic attacks

Gluten in the diet also cause

anemia and there are a lot of folks in this world that are walking around with

celiac disease and don't it. Take gluten out of your diet for a month or two is

what I would first suggest to do. Are food especially the pre packaged ann

canned foods and processed foods are full of gluten. No wheat, barley, rye or

gluten for a few months and I bet you'll feel 100% better.

A diet of whole foods, meat, fruits and vegetables and stay away from the

processed crap is the way to find out the easy way, don't you think?

from Illinois

[Guest guest]

I haven’t used a neti pot for a while but am willing to

try again. I’ve never thought it actually did anything for my

sinuses but other people say it probably was and I just didn’t realize

it. I am feeling nasal congestion right now, though, so it might be a

good time to try again. I don’t have pharmaceutical grade salt –

was planning to use my sea salt. What’s the difference? I’ll

definitely add the iodine. I hadn’t heard the tip about letting it

drain into the sinuses before.

Pamela

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of KENNETH GENTILE

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:34 PM

iodine

Subject: RE: Panic attacks

Have you tried a neti pot with phamaceutical grade

salt (made just for the neti pot) then add a drop of iodine? I also read

after your all done using the pot to lay your head slightly upside

down to made sure the residue water flows all the way up into the

sinuses. Pat