insomnia

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello: I seem to be having a great deal of insomnia lately.

Perhaps it is 'die-off', but I need to get some rest. My days have

turned into nights and vice-versa. Help ! Does anyone out there know

of a safe supplement or method, etc. that would help me? Warm

baths/showers do not relax me, but tend to wake me up and so would

not help right now; I did try Valerian but that had very little

effect on me. Help.

==>Hi. Would you please put your name at the end of your messages

for two blind members on our group? Thanks.

==>Take an Epsom salt bath less than 1/2 before bedtime, and not a

shower. Also do not eat too late. Take cal/mag 1/2 hour before

bedtime. Don't have too many lights on in the evening, and shut off

the TV, computer, etc. and lowering lights at least 1/2 before bed,

if not earlier. Ensure your feet are warm by wearing socks to bed.

Bee

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I take hot baths before bed (apply coconut oil

afterward) and take melatonin when it's really bad.

Also avoid eating coconut oil before bed.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- wilcoxm7 <wilcoxm7@...> wrote:

> Hello: I seem to be having a great deal of

> insomnia lately. Perhaps

> it is 'die-off', but I need to get some rest. My

> days have turned

> into nights and vice-versa. Help ! Does anyone out

> there know of a safe

> supplement or method, etc. that would help me?

> Warm baths/showers do

> not relax me, but tend to wake me up and so would

> not help right now; I

> did try Valerian but that had very little effect on

> me. Help.

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[Guest guest]

I have taken that before - not associated with insomnia from current medical conditions though. It really does induce what feels like natural sleep. There can be some vivid dreams encountered by taking Melatonin. I wonder if people who have vivid dreams throughout life are more likely to encounter the "possible weird dreams" effects from Melatonin and other sleep aids.

It is rumored to have a "fountain of youth" quality as well - that might be why I took it. I took it for about a year and had some billowy (hard to describe) dreams, a couple of dreams that were weird enough to remember for a long time, but the reason I quit taking it was that I felt like my biological clock was re-set and I was able to get good quality sleep without it...so I feel it did its purpose.

I had forgotten all about Melatonin - excellent recollection of a natural sleep aid Kay.

NC

[ ] insomnia

When I was going through menopause I discovered Melatonin. It’s a natural sleep aid that replaces what your body used to produce all on its own. Our bodies begin to slow down the production of it around the mid-30s. I take 6 mg nightly. There’s no side- or after-affects, even when I take it at 2 am knowing I have to get up at 6 am. I know that I’ll be sleeping at least four hours and not lying sleepless in bed in the dark with my eyes wide open.

My doc says it’s safe and okay for me to take. Can buy over the counter. It’s been a great help in my case.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you

had some wonderful dream adventures. I sleep like a log so I’m sure I

must dream, unfortunately none are recalled upon waking. On the rare occasion

that I do dream (or rather—that I’m able to remember what I dream),

it’s the kind that when I wake up, I want to go back to sleep so I can

find out what happens. I love those times.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gross

Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007

1:51 PM

Subject: Re: [ ]

insomnia

I have taken that before - not associated with insomnia from

current medical conditions though. It really does induce what feels like

natural sleep. There can be some vivid dreams encountered by taking

Melatonin. I wonder if people who have vivid dreams throughout life are

more likely to encounter the " possible weird dreams " effects from

Melatonin and other sleep aids.

It is rumored to have a " fountain of youth "

quality as well - that might be why I took it. I took it for about a year

and had some billowy (hard to describe) dreams, a couple of dreams that were

weird enough to remember for a long time, but the reason I quit taking it was

that I felt like my biological clock was re-set and I was able to get good

quality sleep without it...so I feel it did its purpose.

I had forgotten all about Melatonin - excellent recollection

of a natural sleep aid Kay.

NC

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the reminder, Kay. I might try it again, but should probably discuss it with my doctor first.

When I wasn't taking Elavil I relied heavily on melatonin, and this was years before I hit menopause. I found that the regular melatonin would get me to sleep (only in the dark, as light tends to weaken its effect), but then I'd be wide awake in a couple of hours. Then I discovered time-released melatonin, which acts for about 6 hours. I also used sublingual melatonin for the burst I needed to get to sleep quickly, before the time-released stuff took effect. Instead of swallowing it and waiting for it to go through your digestive system, you dissolve it slowly in your mouth so it goes straight to your bloodstream through your mucous membranes. It's sugar-free, and the orange flavor was my favorite. I preferred the 1 mg. sublinguals, so I could adjust to how much I needed, and pop an extra when sleep came more slowly than usual. And for the time-released, the 3mg. tablets were usually adequate. Source Naturals makes both types, or at least they did.

Sharon

[ ] insomnia

When I was going through menopause I discovered Melatonin. It’s a natural sleep aid that replaces what your body used to produce all on its own. Our bodies begin to slow down the production of it around the mid-30s. I take 6 mg nightly. There’s no side- or after-affects, even when I take it at 2 am knowing I have to get up at 6 am. I know that I’ll be sleeping at least four hours and not lying sleepless in bed in the dark with my eyes wide open.

My doc says it’s safe and okay for me to take. Can buy over the counter. It’s been a great help in my case.

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

I suffered from insomnia for at least 15 years on and off before going on to the

diet. Since beginning the diet 7 months ago i very rarely have that problem. My

insomnia was caused by waking up hungry most nights at 3.00am or waking up with

stomach pain at that time, sometimes i had trouble falling asleep too. It was

horrible! Stupidly I would get up and eat a slice of bread just to fill my

stomach. Of course at the time I didn't realise that it would make me so much

worse. But it really has changed with cutting out what I think were the main

culprits for me - wheat and sugar and probably the increase in fat consumption

has helped to! Hopefully the same thing will happen for you, I guess it depends

on what is causing your insomnia. I did wake up at 3.00 for the first time in

months last night, I think it was due to having to many carbs for dinner last

night eg beans and peas - my stomach felt funny all night.

Regards,

Cara

> Hi all,

>

> I know that the body is supposed to retrace its steps on its journey

> to recovery, and as one of my primary symptoms for the last however

> many years has been insomnia I expect to go through some of that

> again. However, I wondered if anyone else has had primary insomnia and

> what your experience was/has been through this program?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

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I had insomnia for many years, mainly due to drinking beer. I would

wake up in the middle of the night around 2-3 and not be able to get

back to sleep for several hours. I think the booze messed up my brain

chemistry or something over the 14 years or so I " partook " . It had

gotten a little better over the past year or so, but still not great

sleep.

Since I began this program, and especially the supplements [magnesium

chief among them], I've been sleeping like a baby all through the

night! Even when stressed, I still sleep good. I usually take three

200 mg magnesium citrate capsules 30 minutes before bed, and I go to

sleep very quickly.

No issues here regarding insomnia! (It probably doesn't hurt that I

quit drinking beer 2 months ago either, even though I wasn't a heavy

drinker as I was in the past).

>

> Hi all,

>

> I know that the body is supposed to retrace its steps on its journey

> to recovery, and as one of my primary symptoms for the last however

> many years has been insomnia I expect to go through some of that

> again. However, I wondered if anyone else has had primary insomnia

and

> what your experience was/has been through this program?

>

> Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

If you've been on the diet for 7 months, why in the world are you

eating peas and beans, when both are no-no's???

Doug

ht, I think it was due to having to many carbs for dinner last

> night eg beans and peas - my stomach felt funny all night.

>

> Regards,

> Cara

>

[Guest guest]

Haha I think I do OK, those are pretty much my worst cheats and I don't normally

react to them at all. I just had a little more than usual. I wish I were perfect

but I'm not.

Cheers,

Cara

--- Doug <organyze@...> wrote:

> If you've been on the diet for 7 months, why in the world are you

> eating peas and beans, when both are no-no's???

>

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I am sure I have seen green string beans on the allowed list ??...they dont

figure as high carb in my food list.

Either way I'm a great believer in listening to my body ...green beans seem

fine for me ...on the other hand I avoid eggplant ,tomato ( & pumpkin/squash I

see mentioned above)

Posted by: " Doug " organyze@... dioje777

Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:45 pm (PST)

If you've been on the diet for 7 months, why in the world are you

eating peas and beans, when both are no-no's???

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi all,

>

> I know that the body is supposed to retrace its steps on its journey

> to recovery, and as one of my primary symptoms for the last however

> many years has been insomnia I expect to go through some of that

> again. However, I wondered if anyone else has had primary insomnia

and

> what your experience was/has been through this program?

>

==>Hi Matt. Have you tried taking your last calcium and magnesium

supplements 1/2 hr. before bedtime ? It has worked for others.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I am sure I have seen green string beans on the allowed

list ??...they dont figure as high carb in my food list.

>

> Either way I'm a great believer in listening to my body ...green

beans seem fine for me ...on the other hand I avoid eggplant ,tomato ( &

pumpkin/squash I see mentioned above)

==>Yes Mike. Greens beans are good, as well as string and wax beans.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Green beans are allowed, I think. But other kinds are not.

>

>

>

> I am sure I have seen green string beans on the allowed

list ??...they dont figure as high carb in my food list.

>

> Either way I'm a great believer in listening to my body ...green

beans seem fine for me ...on the other hand I avoid eggplant ,tomato ( &

pumpkin/squash I see mentioned above)

>

[Guest guest]

I second that. Eggplant and tomato were very hard on me in the

begining of the diet. I think tomatoes are boarder line on the diet,

kind of like stevia, some people are ok with them others are not.

Tomato variaties vary a lot in regards to sugar content too. Some

cherry tomatoes and heirloom varities are pretty sweet compared to the

regular supermaket slicing tomato.

Jecca

>

> I am sure I have seen green string beans on the allowed list

??...they dont figure as high carb in my food list.

>

> Either way I'm a great believer in listening to my body ...green

beans seem fine for me ...on the other hand I avoid eggplant ,tomato

( & pumpkin/squash I see mentioned above)

[Guest guest]

I second that. Eggplant and tomato were very hard on me in the

begining of the diet. I think tomatoes are boarder line on the diet,

kind of like stevia, some people are ok with them others are not.

Tomato variaties vary a lot in regards to sugar content too. Some

cherry tomatoes and heirloom varities are pretty sweet compared to the

regular supermaket slicing tomato.

Jecca

>

> I am sure I have seen green string beans on the allowed list

??...they dont figure as high carb in my food list.

>

> Either way I'm a great believer in listening to my body ...green

beans seem fine for me ...on the other hand I avoid eggplant ,tomato

( & pumpkin/squash I see mentioned above)

[Guest guest]

In my opinion, OVER EXERCISE caused the reaction to over-excercise.

If you're not used to that much exertion, the syptoms you mentioned are

very common for everyone... those with candida, and those without.

However, those of us with candida should be very careful about over-

exertion, because our bodies can't recover like everyone else. Take it

easy and let your body use that energy for healing. After that, you

can dance as much as you want.

For instance, I worked 16 hours on Saturday and 8 hours yesterday on a

warehouse renovation project... after working 40 hours this week in my

office job. Needless to say, this morning my heart was beating faster

than normal, and I feel like I drank 10 beers last night.

Doug

Would

> the candida alone cause this kind of reaction to over exercise?

>

> Thanks Bee,

> Joanne

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> It's 3:00 am and I am wound like a kite. I have been doing a lot of

> ballroom dancing lately and I seem to do OK with it. Last night

there

> was a shortage of women and I did not take a break for 2 hours. I

got

> very flushed and sweaty, which is not normal. Since I got home I

have

> felt like my heart is racing and like I have had 100 cups of coffee.

> My body is very toxic from having breast implants (removed 5 years

> ago) and many years of prescription meds.

>

> Your diet is the best thing that ever happened to me and I am

sleeping

> most nights now (after 3 months). I guess I need reassurance that I

> will eventually detox my body and that the insomnia will end. Would

> the candida alone cause this kind of reaction to over exercise?

+++Hi Joanne. It's great to have such fun, but overdoing it will

mobilize toxins throughout the body, which creates more healing/die-

off/detoxifying symptoms (they are all the same thing) like you

experienced.

+++Yes, like many other people you, too, will eventually detox and

sleep better, and having so many toxins interferes with sleep.

+++Candida toxins, and other kinds of toxins are causing the reaction

to over exercise.

+++In order to help your body after such an episode, do things that

assist detoxification, i.e. Epsom salt baths, coffee enemas, dry skin

brushing, etc - see this article for more suggestions:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/detox.php

+++Remember it takes 1 month of natural healing for every year you've

been unhealthy, and for most people nowadays that is since before

they were born.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

I guess I need reassurance that I

> will eventually detox my body and that the insomnia will end. Would

> the candida alone cause this kind of reaction to over exercise?

>

> Thanks Bee,

> Joanne

>

Hi Joanne:

I remember reading somewhere on Bee's site that exercise will increase your

detoxing. So

maybe your extra exertion caused you to release more toxins which can definitely

cause

things like racing heart, insomnia, etc.

Do you feel better today?

Marissa

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

When I have insomnia, I get up right away and take 2000mg of Vitamin C. Vitamin

C supports the adrenals. I go back to sleep and sleep more deeply than before.

You have to do it right away, so that you do not wake up totally. The Vit C

crystals work the quickest.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all your replies. Yes, I feel better today and thank you. I dance

often but I rest in between dances. On this particular night, there were not

enough women and so I never rested, just kept on jitterbugging. It is hard to

tell myself to stop when something feels so good.

I have a couple of other questions, Bee. Do you count the coconut oil that you

put on your skin as total intake? And, like you said, when I have a bad day like

that I do the coffee enemas and epson salt baths but I also do an oionic foot

bath. Have you heard of it? It is negatively charged and supposedly takes out

toxins from the body. I did one before bed last night and the water was filled

with what looked like candida floating at the top.

Thanks,

Joanne

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks for all your replies. Yes, I feel better today and thank

you. I dance often but I rest in between dances. On this particular

night, there were not enough women and so I never rested, just kept

on jitterbugging. It is hard to tell myself to stop when something

feels so good.

+++Hi Joanne. That's wonderful you enjoy dancing!

>

> I have a couple of other questions, Bee. Do you count the coconut

oil that you put on your skin as total intake? And, like you said,

when I have a bad day like that I do the coffee enemas and epson salt

baths but I also do an oionic foot bath. Have you heard of it? It is

negatively charged and supposedly takes out toxins from the body. I

did one before bed last night and the water was filled with what

looked like candida floating at the top.

+++Since your skin will absorb coconut oil very readily, yes you can

count it in with your total intake of fats.

+++Yes, I am very familiar with ionic food baths. My aunt bought one

and used it on many of my family members. Some people had great

results, while others didn't notice any difference. The problem with

Ionic Foot Baths is that they pull lots of minerals out of the body

along with toxins. If you do them you must take extra minerals 3

days before, during and 3 days after treatments. I recommend taking

15 drops of Concentrace Ionic Liquid Minerals per day.

+++Also treatments shouldn't be done very often. I can't recall what

is recommended by the manufacturer, but my Aunt had all of the

literature and followed the recommendations carefully.

Bee

[Guest guest]

There is an herbal supplement called " Mid Nite " (_www.midnitesleep.com_

(http://www.midnitesleep.com) ) that has melatonin (1.5 mg) and lemon balm,

chamomile and lavender in it and it really has helped a lot. I did not like

how I felt when I took valerian, but this product really has worked wonders.

In a message dated 5/25/2009 7:24:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lucy96734@... writes:

Valerian is great for insomnia.

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:32 PM, C-H <_kuriouserx2@kuriouser_

(mailto:kuriouserx2@...) > wrote:

>

>

> How about the insomnia? Any thoughts on what I can do other than take

> Benedryl as a sleeping pill (which knocks me out for 9-10 hours till I

> awaken tired as can be till the next night's insomnia)?

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

> Galileo Galilei

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[Guest guest]

Both the mood swings and the sleep disorders are rooted in the same

cause, which is diminished dopamine levels. This happens as a side

effect of a disrupted adrenal hormone pathway, which makes it hard for

the body to produce dopamine precursors.

You and your doctor may be able to address both by trying to increase

dopamine. I do this with over-the-counter DLPA, 1000 mg taken before

bed. (I wouldn't do this while taking Cymbalta without checking in

with your doc.) If that doesn't work, some doctors will prescribe

Adderall (yes, the ADD drug), which is effectively a dopamine reuptake

inhibitor.

In any event, this particular combo of symptoms screams " dopamine. "

That's the place to start digging if you want to fix it.

Sara

On May 24, 2009, at 10:32 PM, C-H wrote:

> How about the insomnia? Any thoughts on what I can do other than

> take Benedryl as a sleeping pill (which knocks me out for 9-10 hours

> till I awaken tired as can be till the next night's insomnia)?

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Valerian is great for insomnia.

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:32 PM, C-H <kuriouserx2@...> wrote:

>

>

> How about the insomnia? Any thoughts on what I can do other than take

> Benedryl as a sleeping pill (which knocks me out for 9-10 hours till I

> awaken tired as can be till the next night's insomnia)?

>

> Thanks...

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *******

> I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us

> with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.

> Galileo Galilei

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks both for the suggestions.  I'll look into them.

 

 

From: TUESDAYMT@... <TUESDAYMT@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] insomnia

Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:53 PM

There is an herbal supplement called " Mid Nite " (_www.midnitesleep.com_

(http://www.midnitesleep.com) ) that has  melatonin (1.5 mg) and lemon balm,

chamomile and lavender in it and it  really has helped a lot. I did not like

how I felt when I took valerian, but  this product really has worked wonders.