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In a message dated 1/4/01 9:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, dusan@...

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Maybe someone out there could give me a hint. I'd really appreciateit.

>>

Have you looked into Leaky Gut Syndrome?

Do you have silver fillings?

I have similar symptoms, but was on a bad diet. Got my fillings safely

removed, and am on the extreme candida diet now, three weeks with no sign of

improvement so far, but just started to treat myself for Leaky gut about a

week and a half ago.

Have to go back to my doctor for some test results on monday, maybe if it's

something else I'll be able to help.

take care,

Nastasya

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Why does your post have an ad in it? Is theer anyway tos top that? it takes

forever to down load.

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> Certainly sounds like candida overgrowth to me.

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Paco - that sounds like candida to me!! Do you have any idea what

started it? Have you ever taken antibiotics or steroids of any sort?

You're in the right place now - this group is a wealth of support and

information!

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Hi. Thanks so much for answering. What's Leaky Gut Syndrome? How can you be

tested for that? What's the problem with fillings? I have several. They're I

think the traditional mercury (?) amalgams.

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>Subject: Re: New to group

>Date: vier., 5 ener 2001 03:46

>

> In a message dated 1/4/01 9:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, dusan@...

> writes:

>

> <<

> Maybe someone out there could give me a hint. I'd really appreciateit.

> >>

>

> Have you looked into Leaky Gut Syndrome?

>

> Do you have silver fillings?

>

> I have similar symptoms, but was on a bad diet. Got my fillings safely

> removed, and am on the extreme candida diet now, three weeks with no sign of

> improvement so far, but just started to treat myself for Leaky gut about a

> week and a half ago.

>

> Have to go back to my doctor for some test results on monday, maybe if it's

> something else I'll be able to help.

>

> take care,

> Nastasya

>

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No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years, so I

seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have been

told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd who is

going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

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>Date: vier., 5 ener 2001 03:46

>

> In a message dated 1/4/01 9:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dusan@...

> writes:

>

> <<

> Maybe someone out there could give me a hint. I'd really appreciateit.

> >>

>

> Have you looked into Leaky Gut Syndrome?

>

> Do you have silver fillings?

>

> I have similar symptoms, but was on a bad diet. Got my fillings safely

> removed, and am on the extreme candida diet now, three weeks with no sign

of

> improvement so far, but just started to treat myself for Leaky gut about a

> week and a half ago.

>

> Have to go back to my doctor for some test results on monday, maybe if

it's

> something else I'll be able to help.

>

> take care,

> Nastasya

>

> Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to

> UNSUBSCRIBE !

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In a message dated 1/6/01 12:56:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years, so

I

seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have been

told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd who is

going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

>>

And what planet are you living on? If the above statement is true then why

did I (who is only 32) have ten mercury fillings put in my mouth, first

beginning when I was six? And everyone else I know?

When I went to the dentist last May, I had to beg for white composite when

they were replacing two of my broken silver fillings. They were definately

going to put more silver in there and it is 100% fact there is mercury in

silver fillings. I will never go to any dentist but a wholistic mercury free

dentist again, you are fooling yourself if you believe otherwise or you are

ill informed. I have been studying this for months since I've become ill,

and pardon me if I sound defensive about but I am. I wouldn't be sick as bad

as I am right now if it weren't for that damn dentist that took my " safe " -

not- fillings out the wrong way and made me take antibiotics. I can't work

and people think I'm crazy cuz I look fine, but I'm not.

I'm down to my last couple hundred bucks and have shown no signs of

improvement on this diet, but dentists and mercury were the divine cause, and

there isn't one thing I can do about it.

If you believe every chump that's in dentist school, then I guess you believe

all the doctors that are full of s*** and the government too, cuz they never

lie right?

Please don't go misleading people about the ills of mercury when you clearly

have not read up on it.

Nastasya

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> No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years, so

I

> seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have

been

> told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd who

is

> going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

> years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

> mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

This isn't true. If you do a search on the Internet you will come up with

thousands of sites about the hazards of mercury based dental fillings. The

American Dental Association's web site promotes the use of mercury based

dental fillings to this day (although for about 24 hours a couple days ago,

they actually removed the information from their web site from pressure from

a law group and may have to yet remove it within the next couple days, but

after having it removed for one day they put it back up a day later), which

means that mercury based dental fillings are currently still being used.

I'm afraid your dentist friends weren't being truthful with you. And by the

way, it is a hazard for dentists. I have a niece who trained to be a dental

hygienist, and had to quit because of mercury exposure that damaged her

health. The statistics for health problems of dentists makes dentistry one

of the most hazardous occupational fields, all because of mercury. Anyone

who has silver fillings in their mouths has mercury in their mouths. Anyone

who says otherwise hasn't got their facts straight.

lindaj@...

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,

I dont really think its the case that her friends aren't being truthful with

her. They

are repeating what they have been told. With out proper teaching they cant be

expected to

understand the risks both they and their patients are taking

lindaj@... wrote:

> Re: New to group

>

> > No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years, so

> I

> > seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have

> been

> > told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd who

> is

> > going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

> > years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

> > mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

>

> This isn't true. If you do a search on the Internet you will come up with

> thousands of sites about the hazards of mercury based dental fillings. The

> American Dental Association's web site promotes the use of mercury based

> dental fillings to this day (although for about 24 hours a couple days ago,

> they actually removed the information from their web site from pressure from

> a law group and may have to yet remove it within the next couple days, but

> after having it removed for one day they put it back up a day later), which

> means that mercury based dental fillings are currently still being used.

> I'm afraid your dentist friends weren't being truthful with you. And by the

> way, it is a hazard for dentists. I have a niece who trained to be a dental

> hygienist, and had to quit because of mercury exposure that damaged her

> health. The statistics for health problems of dentists makes dentistry one

> of the most hazardous occupational fields, all because of mercury. Anyone

> who has silver fillings in their mouths has mercury in their mouths. Anyone

> who says otherwise hasn't got their facts straight.

>

>

> lindaj@...

>

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ok iwasn't going to touch this, but my friends aren't young,a nd the dentist

helper (not usre of her title) is going into her 60's and I know she

wouldn't belive naything she was just told. they may use mercury in some

parts but it hasnn't been legal for quite awhile, Iam tryiung to find info

to back me up. but that is just insne with how much illness one can get

from urcery that they ares till using it. Ia m not calling one insane just

that it's used.

and in all the reading I have done granted ia m just getting started I only

have baout 6 links, and 3 books roight now allw hich back me up. like I said

they are different but so slightly they COULD be called the same thing.

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>

> > No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years,

so

> I

> > seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have

> been

> > told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd

who

> is

> > going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

> > years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

> > mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

>

> This isn't true. If you do a search on the Internet you will come up with

> thousands of sites about the hazards of mercury based dental fillings. The

> American Dental Association's web site promotes the use of mercury based

> dental fillings to this day (although for about 24 hours a couple days

ago,

> they actually removed the information from their web site from pressure

from

> a law group and may have to yet remove it within the next couple days, but

> after having it removed for one day they put it back up a day later),

which

> means that mercury based dental fillings are currently still being used.

> I'm afraid your dentist friends weren't being truthful with you. And by

the

> way, it is a hazard for dentists. I have a niece who trained to be a

dental

> hygienist, and had to quit because of mercury exposure that damaged her

> health. The statistics for health problems of dentists makes dentistry one

> of the most hazardous occupational fields, all because of mercury. Anyone

> who has silver fillings in their mouths has mercury in their mouths.

Anyone

> who says otherwise hasn't got their facts straight.

>

>

> lindaj@...

>

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Just a year ago I had to take my son in to a local dentist in my town, and

posted on the wall in the waiting room was a notice that stated he used

mercury based fillings in his patients, and then a bunch of garbage about

how the American Dental Association approved of it's use. I asked him about

removing fillings and having them replaced with non-mercury based fillings

and he said he didn't do that unless the fillings were damaged and needed to

be replaced, and he wouldn't just remove fillings because of the mercury for

fear of loosing his license. It was the last time I intend to ever go back

to him.

For anyone that is trying to find a dentist that is mercury free, or that

does biocompatibility testing, or that is a holistic dentist, the American

Holistic Health Association has a Practitioner search page that you can use

to find a dentist in your area. The search is in the Holistic Practitioner's

link. You just type in dentist in the field for the search engine and then

information in one of the other fields for location. Their web site is:

http://www.ahha.org/

lindaj@...

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>

> > No dentist has been aloud to use mercury in fillings ofr over 30 years,

so

> I

> > seriously doubt any of you had mercury in your mouths. you mighht have

> been

> > told that you dod so that they could more money, but I have a frienmd

who

> is

> > going to denistry school and another that helped a dentist for many many

> > years.a nd they both have told me that if you did have murcery in your

> > mouths it would be a huge problem for the dentist let alone your health.

>

> This isn't true. If you do a search on the Internet you will come up with

> thousands of sites about the hazards of mercury based dental fillings. The

> American Dental Association's web site promotes the use of mercury based

> dental fillings to this day (although for about 24 hours a couple days

ago,

> they actually removed the information from their web site from pressure

from

> a law group and may have to yet remove it within the next couple days, but

> after having it removed for one day they put it back up a day later),

which

> means that mercury based dental fillings are currently still being used.

> I'm afraid your dentist friends weren't being truthful with you. And by

the

> way, it is a hazard for dentists. I have a niece who trained to be a

dental

> hygienist, and had to quit because of mercury exposure that damaged her

> health. The statistics for health problems of dentists makes dentistry one

> of the most hazardous occupational fields, all because of mercury. Anyone

> who has silver fillings in their mouths has mercury in their mouths.

Anyone

> who says otherwise hasn't got their facts straight.

>

>

> lindaj@...

>

> Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to

UNSUBSCRIBE !

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hey gregg,

this is Greg in alb. i have cirrhosis with portal hypertension. i have had numerous bleeds.several major.one put me in a coma for 3 days.i have been banded 11 times.i have not bled in about 4 months.to help the portal hypertension i have to take a beta blocker "propranolol" or else i would bleed all the time.does she take anything for that?that is the best way to keep it under control.

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Hi Greg

This is in Tustin CA. responding to your e-mail to Gregg. Yes I am currently taking propanolol 2x's daily for the bleeds. Thank you for responding

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hey gregg, this is Greg in alb. i have cirrhosis with portal hypertension. i have had numerous bleeds.several major.one put me in a coma for 3 days.i have been banded 11 times.i have not bled in about 4 months.to help the portal hypertension i have to take a beta blocker "propranolol" or else i would bleed all the time.does she take anything for that?that is the best way to keep it under control.

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Welcome Kayjay,

I think you have come to the right place. We all know the ends and

outs of AIH along with other liver diseases. There is alot of

support and love here just for the asking. You can also get most/all

of your questions answered or atleast where to go to find the

answers.

Take care and stick around.

Debbie/FL

> Hello all. I have just joined the group after a recent flare which

> put me in the hospital and generally scared the dickens out of me.

I

> had forgotten what it was like to be so sick and unsure. I was

> looking for a place where people know what this is about, what it

is

> like and would let me join in. Hope this is it.

> Kayjay

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Hi Kayjay,

I'm Judy and I am new to this group also. There are a

great group of people at this site, very

informative,too. Welcome.

Judy Pensacola,Fl.AIH98

--- kjcampbell@... wrote:

> Hello all. I have just joined the group after a

> recent flare which

> put me in the hospital and generally scared the

> dickens out of me. I

> had forgotten what it was like to be so sick and

> unsure. I was

> looking for a place where people know what this is

> about, what it is

> like and would let me join in. Hope this is it.

> Kayjay

>

>

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--- kjcampbell@... wrote:

> Hello all. I have just joined the group after a

> recent flare which

> put me in the hospital and generally scared the

> dickens out of me. I

> had forgotten what it was like to be so sick and

> unsure. I was

> looking for a place where people know what this is

> about, what it is

> like and would let me join in. Hope this is it.

> Kayjay

>

>

Welcome Kayjay, you have found the right

place.Whatever you need to know there will be someone

in this group who can help or tell you. who can.

Ann in Illinois

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Welcome Irene and Collin,

There are quite a few of us mothers here. My son Tommy is also 12 years

old. Finding out he had this terrible disease was quite a blow. I'm happy

that they have moved fast from initial dx to placing him on the transplant

list. Hopefully, he will get a liver soon. The people here who have had

transplants say they felt better almost immediately. Keep us updated on

Collin's progress and if you ever have any questions or want to share joy

or to vent, please call on us. I can relate emotionally as a parent (as can

quite a few others), and there are many well informed people on the site

who can answer medical concerns (not doctors, just people who have been

there).

Debbie (Tommy's Mom)

> [Original Message]

> From: <IRoss103@...>

> < >

> Date: 7/27/01 6:57:36 AM

> Subject: [ ] new to group

>

> Hi everyone. I have been reading post for a while now and figure

> it is

> time to introduce myself. My name is Irene and my son Collin was

> diagnosed

> with AIH in May/01. My son is 12 years old and his liver biopsy

> showed

> cirrohsis, he is on the transplant list at University of Michigan

> childrens

> hospital. He is currently taking vit. k, mp6 and prednisone. This

> disease

> sure changes ones life, and my son can't do alot of things that

> other kids

> are able to do, because of his spleen being so enlarged and the

> danger of

> rupture.

> I have learned alot of information from everyone here and it is

> nice to

> know that U are not alone in this. Thanks to all. Irene

>

>

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Dear Anne

Has your doctor checked your blood since you have been on

the Diflucan? I took it for a while, but after a couple of

weeks and an investigative follow-up blood test, the doctor

found that it was affecting my liver, as Diflucan is known

to do in some people.

Hope this helps, Anne, and hope you find some solutions to

your health soon!

Helen

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Anne: Have you also tried the diet? i think you have yeast but should start

the diet, a food fiber pill (with herbs as ingredients) Elimanate all sugar,

processed foods, fruit, & etc. keep your bowels going a couple of times a

day. Mog

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Leisa - I hear ya when you say you only use Cetaphil and no

bubbles, but do you wash their hair in the bath water?

Have you tried washing them under running water and not

filling the tub? Also, if they are sitting in the tub,

might there be a residue from cleaning agents left behind

that might be mixing with their skin? Do they sleep with

pets? Have they been checked for worms? You say your girls

have constant yeast infections - what are their symptoms?

Lilly

abbyoliviaanna wrote:

> Hi all, I just searched for this group out of

> desperation. I'm

> quite sure I have the a candida problem, but I am mostly

> upset about

> the fact that my 3 daughters who are 5, 3 and 2 (next Mon)

> all have

> almost constant yeast infections. I use Lotrimin on it

> and was told

> by someone else online that we probably need a

> prescription anti-

> fungal, but I wanted to do some research and see what

> others say. My

> first daughter had several ear infections as an infant and

> I'm sure

> that's what caused the overgrowth in her. My second and

> third had a

> few ear infections, but the middle child and the oldest

> have a

> constant itchy, burning bottom. We use Cetaphil soap and

> no

> bubbles. My youngest has a pretty bad yeast infection

> right now.

> She's only been on antibiotics maybe once or twice and

> none in the

> past year. I would truly appreciate any help in the way

> of advice or

> links you all can give me. Thanks!

>

> Leisa Bishop

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Leisa, are you putting bubble bath in the water? a lot of people are

sensitive to that, my grown up daughter will get a yeast infection from it!

Mog

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Try to research in http://www.panix.com/~candida/ and look for a

doctor soon.

> Hi all, I just searched for this group out of desperation. I'm

> quite sure I have the a candida problem, but I am mostly upset

about

> the fact that my 3 daughters who are 5, 3 and 2 (next Mon) all have

> almost constant yeast infections. I use Lotrimin on it and was

told

> by someone else online that we probably need a prescription anti-

> fungal, but I wanted to do some research and see what others say.

My

> first daughter had several ear infections as an infant and I'm sure

> that's what caused the overgrowth in her. My second and third had

a

> few ear infections, but the middle child and the oldest have a

> constant itchy, burning bottom. We use Cetaphil soap and no

> bubbles. My youngest has a pretty bad yeast infection right now.

> She's only been on antibiotics maybe once or twice and none in the

> past year. I would truly appreciate any help in the way of advice

or

> links you all can give me. Thanks!

>

> Leisa Bishop

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Thank you Lilly. Yes I DO wash their hair in the tub. I had been

using Neutrogena soap, but have been using regular shampoo recently.

Their symptoms are itchy, burning, red genital areas, that sometimes

extends back. They don't sleep with a pet, but we do have a dog. I

suppose the cleaning agents could be an issue, but since I use the

shampoo I probably need to start there and of course rinse really

well when I clean. I also think I'll start washing them with the

handheld shower instead of letting them sit in the tub. They love to

play in the tub with toys, but we'll try that and if their problems

get better we'll stick with it. It IS a possibility I suppose that

we're not dealing with yeast. My youngest daughter right now has an

obvious one, because she has the little bumps in the folds, but the

other two mostly just have red, itchy burning genitals that could

very well be coming from the water. I'll try your suggestions for

sure. Thanks so much. Sometimes it takes an outsider to make me

think through things and see what's going on. I'm certainly hoping

that's all it is.

Leisa

>

> > Hi all, I just searched for this group out of

> > desperation. I'm

> > quite sure I have the a candida problem, but I am mostly

> > upset about

> > the fact that my 3 daughters who are 5, 3 and 2 (next Mon)

> > all have

> > almost constant yeast infections. I use Lotrimin on it

> > and was told

> > by someone else online that we probably need a

> > prescription anti-

> > fungal, but I wanted to do some research and see what

> > others say. My

> > first daughter had several ear infections as an infant and

> > I'm sure

> > that's what caused the overgrowth in her. My second and

> > third had a

> > few ear infections, but the middle child and the oldest

> > have a

> > constant itchy, burning bottom. We use Cetaphil soap and

> > no

> > bubbles. My youngest has a pretty bad yeast infection

> > right now.

> > She's only been on antibiotics maybe once or twice and

> > none in the

> > past year. I would truly appreciate any help in the way

> > of advice or

> > links you all can give me. Thanks!

> >

> > Leisa Bishop

>

>

>

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You may also want to research shower/bath faucet

filters. I'm not sure what kind of water you have,

but the water itself could be the culprit. I am in

the market for a shower/bath faucet filter myself

because of Ezcema that I can't seem to get rid of. I

have nasty well water though. City water has a lot of

chlorine in it--very harmful to young tender skin.

--- abbyoliviaanna <abbyoliviaanna@...> wrote:

> Thank you Lilly. Yes I DO wash their hair in the

> tub. I had been

> using Neutrogena soap, but have been using regular

> shampoo recently.

> Their symptoms are itchy, burning, red genital

> areas, that sometimes

> extends back. They don't sleep with a pet, but we

> do have a dog. I

> suppose the cleaning agents could be an issue, but

> since I use the

> shampoo I probably need to start there and of course

> rinse really

> well when I clean. I also think I'll start

> washing them with the

> handheld shower instead of letting them sit in the

> tub. They love to

> play in the tub with toys, but we'll try that and if

> their problems

> get better we'll stick with it. It IS a possibility

> I suppose that

> we're not dealing with yeast. My youngest daughter

> right now has an

> obvious one, because she has the little bumps in the

> folds, but the

> other two mostly just have red, itchy burning

> genitals that could

> very well be coming from the water. I'll try your

> suggestions for

> sure. Thanks so much. Sometimes it takes an

> outsider to make me

> think through things and see what's going on. I'm

> certainly hoping

> that's all it is.

>

> Leisa

>

>

>

> >

> > > Hi all, I just searched for this group out of

> > > desperation. I'm

> > > quite sure I have the a candida problem, but I

> am mostly

> > > upset about

> > > the fact that my 3 daughters who are 5, 3 and 2

> (next Mon)

> > > all have

> > > almost constant yeast infections. I use

> Lotrimin on it

> > > and was told

> > > by someone else online that we probably need a

> > > prescription anti-

> > > fungal, but I wanted to do some research and see

> what

> > > others say. My

> > > first daughter had several ear infections as an

> infant and

> > > I'm sure

> > > that's what caused the overgrowth in her. My

> second and

> > > third had a

> > > few ear infections, but the middle child and the

> oldest

> > > have a

> > > constant itchy, burning bottom. We use Cetaphil

> soap and

> > > no

> > > bubbles. My youngest has a pretty bad yeast

> infection

> > > right now.

> > > She's only been on antibiotics maybe once or

> twice and

> > > none in the

> > > past year. I would truly appreciate any help in

> the way

> > > of advice or

> > > links you all can give me. Thanks!

> > >

> > > Leisa Bishop

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Hi Melinda, I just did the Jensen book cleanse. I posted my photos

and from the feedback I've gotten, it was a productive cleanse I'm

guessing. I was happy with the results, but I want to do a second

cleanse. I used apple juice, and watermelon juice for my fast. In

the colemas, I added organic coffee (am) and clay water or garlic to

the pm buckets (the additives to the colemas was not in the book,

but that's what I did), otherwise I followed the cleanse pretty much

by the book.

Best wishes to improving your health!~!

Kate

> Hi, my name is Melinda. I've tried Schulze's remedies for bowel

> cleaning and didn't have luck with them at all. I was wondering

if

> any of you would recommend Dr. Jensen's book. I have a zapper and

> Dr. 's books already. Anyone recommend a starting place for

> this? I'm also interested in seeing if any women with uterine

> fibroids did a cleanse and found that their fibroids disappeared

or

> got smaller when the body started to clean itself out.

>

> Thanks for any help you can give me.

>

> Melinda

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