nodules

January 11, 1999

Will you share with us what herbs were used?

Snooks wrote:

> From: Snooks <snooks@...>

>

> , I would think that could be a possibility, but there may be other

> reasons for them as well. Have you checked this out with Dr. Whitman?

>

> You cannot live in fear. What was it Job said? " For the thing I

> greatly feared has come upon me. And what I dreaded has happened to

> me. "

>

> I've been where you are and I have no guarantee what may come in the

> future, but cancer doesn't hold the fear for me it once did. I'll never

> forget the day (1994) Dr. Duvall put his arm around my shoulder and

> said, " Ethel, I hate to tell you this, but you have acute leukemia. " *

>

> I knew something was wrong. It had been over a week since the blood

> work and biopsy and he was evading me. Dr. Duvall wanted to be sure

> before talking to me so he asked me to be at the University hospital at

> 8 AM that morning. He said there would be about 20 doctors with years

> of experience gathering for a meeting and he wanted them to look at me.

> Things just weren't looking good so my husband went with me. The

> pathlogist also came to the meeting. One by one those doctors came into

> my room, looked me over good, questioned me and walked out. Then I was

> left alone for about 20 minutes after which Dr. Duvall and the

> pathologist came in and requested we follow them back to Dr. Duvall's

> office which was in the building next to the hospital where he

> practiced. They were going to take a third biopsy. It was then I heard

> the news.

>

> I was stunned. I walked out of the office and told my husband. He took

> my hand and we walked in silence to the car.

>

> With that diagnosis, I didn't have long. We left that office and went

> straight to a health food store where just a few weeks earlier I heard

> them discussing a cancer therapy from Canada using diet, supplements and

> herbs - an old Indian remedy. I started taking the herbs immediately

> and in just over a month everything cleared up. I still take a

> maintenance dose off and on. My husband had surgery for stomach cancer

> in 1986. He takes the herbals and supplements regularly.

>

> At this same time, I had a friend with breast cancer metastasized to the

> bone. We both had the same oncologist. She immediately started the

> diet, supplements and herbs and is now in remission. Then there were

> the two women here in Dallas in their late 30's with breast cancer. The

> one, daughter of a dentist and sister of a pediatrician, had both

> breasts removed and now the cancer was back. A friend had heard me

> speak at one of the country clubs here and she came to see me. Today

> she is free of cancer.

>

> The other woman was a lab technician at the local hospital. Her

> husband's business partner had heard me speak at that same club. She

> said over the years she watched cancer patients returning to the

> hospital for more toxic therapies. Everytime they came they looked

> worse until finally they died. She knew cut, burn and poison was not

> the way for her. That woman too is free of cancer.

>

> The families of both of these women thought at the time they were out of

> their minds not to follow conventional therapy.

>

> My sister, a nurse, was so impressed she told their lawyer about the

> therapy. His wife was dying with an ovarian type cancer. Ellen

> made up the herbs, laid out a diet and supplements and personally

> supervised this woman's recovery. That was in 1994. I've lost count of

> the number of people who have been helped by this therapy. I've also

> seen it work for melanoma and cancer of the brain, lungs, pancreas, and

> liver. Several friends have found it effective for allergies and

> asthma.

>

> The information I've learned about cancer and the various effective

> alternative therapies used to treat it is absolutely amazing. I've also

> learned:

> 1. How powerful diet is in maintaining and regaining health.

> 2. The importance of keeping the colon clean daily.

> 3. The body's many needs for water.

> 4. The importance of adequate supplements including antioxidents.

> 5. The role of exercise in maintaining health.

>

> I can't control environmental pollutants that are in the very air we

> breathe, but I do follow the above 5 guidelines.

>

> Scleroderma can be just as nasty as cancer. Instead of worrying and

> fearing the worst, put your energy into doing all you can to get better.

> Keep a positive attitude.

>

> just asked if anyone had read Norman Cousins book The Anatomy of

> an Illness. Norman holed himself up in a hotel room and rented funny

> movies that made him laugh. He understood the importance a positive

> attitude had on his system.

>

> Ethel

>

> RTC@... wrote:

> >

> > From: RTC@...

> >

> > So Ethel, Do you think that nodules in the lungs are the same? I sure hope

so.

> > Dr. Chiu are you reading this? My docs are ready to open my lungs up to

see

> > if my lung nodules are cancer.

> >

> > Burlyn, did you find an internet site? Are you as worried as I am? I go to

> > sleep and wake worring,,,not a productive way to be.

> > Thank good ness this list is back. I try to read every note, although there

> > seems to be too many, but it was far worse without the list.

> > Hope everyone is feeling well

> >

> > CREST 15 yrs, AP 2years.

> >

> > In a message dated 2/2/99 11:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

snooks@...

> > writes:

> >

> > > Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

> > > Breakthrough.

> > >

> > > " The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is the

> > > nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

> > > arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for what

> > > it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

> > > the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

> > > something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at the

> > > site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

> > > possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it is

> > > likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

> > > site.

> > >

> > > Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

> > > and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

> > > elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to discover

> > > that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time the

> > > appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

> > > in another.

> > >

> > > The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

> > > fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where the

> > > mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

> > > body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

> > > mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because the

> > > body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

> > > then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

> > > nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

> > > attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for defense

> > > is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

> > > in new ones. "

> > > bforwh wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello

> > > > I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info about

> > > > nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about

> > them

> > > > any info appreciated .

> > > > Burlyne

> >

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February 2, 1999

, you are in the getting worse before you get better stage. Hang

in there. Yes, the doxy is making you worse. As it kills off those

organism toxins are released which travel through the body causing pain

sometimes where you have never had it before. Drink lots of water, try

the hydrogen peroxide/epsom salts baths or showers and get somebody to

massage you to move the toxins out.

Ethel

M CarrollL wrote:

>

> From: M CarrollL <LCARROLL@...>

>

> Hello group,

> SO wonderful to see everyone again! Thanks so much to all that made

> getting it up and running possible and those that worked on the makeshift

> list.

> Can anyone tell me about rheumatoid nodules? I have had two to appear

> within the last two weeks ( one one knee and one on a wrist) and I read

> that people with the severest forms of the disease get these. I supposedly

> have " mild " RA( is there such a thing????) but after four months of doxi

> have experienced more stiffness and joint pain than I ever have and now the

> nodules are starting to appear.

> Does this mean the disease is getting worse and starting in the severe

> mode? Please if anyone can help me I would appreciate it. I am getting

> very scared and hope the doxicycline isn't making me worse. Thank you so

> much!

>

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February 2, 1999

Hello

I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info about

nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about them

any info appreciated .

Burlyne

rheumatic Re: nodules

>From: Snooks <snooks@...>

>

>, you are in the getting worse before you get better stage. Hang

>in there. Yes, the doxy is making you worse. As it kills off those

>organism toxins are released which travel through the body causing pain

>sometimes where you have never had it before. Drink lots of water, try

>the hydrogen peroxide/epsom salts baths or showers and get somebody to

>massage you to move the toxins out.

>

>Ethel

>

> M CarrollL wrote:

>>

>> From: M CarrollL <LCARROLL@...>

>>

>> Hello group,

>> SO wonderful to see everyone again! Thanks so much to all that made

>> getting it up and running possible and those that worked on the makeshift

>> list.

>> Can anyone tell me about rheumatoid nodules? I have had two to appear

>> within the last two weeks ( one one knee and one on a wrist) and I read

>> that people with the severest forms of the disease get these. I

supposedly

>> have " mild " RA( is there such a thing????) but after four months of doxi

>> have experienced more stiffness and joint pain than I ever have and now

the

>> nodules are starting to appear.

>> Does this mean the disease is getting worse and starting in the severe

>> mode? Please if anyone can help me I would appreciate it. I am getting

>> very scared and hope the doxicycline isn't making me worse. Thank you so

>> much!

>>

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>> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and

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February 3, 1999

Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

Breakthrough.

" The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is the

nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for what

it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at the

site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it is

likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

site.

Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to discover

that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time the

appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

in another.

The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where the

mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because the

body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for defense

is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

in new ones. "

bforwh wrote:

>

> Hello

> I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info about

> nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about them

> any info appreciated .

> Burlyne

> rheumatic Re: nodules

>

> >From: Snooks <snooks@...>

> >

> >, you are in the getting worse before you get better stage. Hang

> >in there. Yes, the doxy is making you worse. As it kills off those

> >organism toxins are released which travel through the body causing pain

> >sometimes where you have never had it before. Drink lots of water, try

> >the hydrogen peroxide/epsom salts baths or showers and get somebody to

> >massage you to move the toxins out.

> >

> >Ethel

> >

> > M CarrollL wrote:

> >>

> >> From: M CarrollL <LCARROLL@...>

> >>

> >> Hello group,

> >> SO wonderful to see everyone again! Thanks so much to all that made

> >> getting it up and running possible and those that worked on the makeshift

> >> list.

> >> Can anyone tell me about rheumatoid nodules? I have had two to appear

> >> within the last two weeks ( one one knee and one on a wrist) and I read

> >> that people with the severest forms of the disease get these. I

> supposedly

> >> have " mild " RA( is there such a thing????) but after four months of doxi

> >> have experienced more stiffness and joint pain than I ever have and now

> the

> >> nodules are starting to appear.

> >> Does this mean the disease is getting worse and starting in the severe

> >> mode? Please if anyone can help me I would appreciate it. I am getting

> >> very scared and hope the doxicycline isn't making me worse. Thank you so

> >> much!

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >> to digest, go to the ONElist web site, at and

> >> select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left.

> >

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February 3, 1999

So Ethel, Do you think that nodules in the lungs are the same? I sure hope so.

Dr. Chiu are you reading this? My docs are ready to open my lungs up to see

if my lung nodules are cancer.

Burlyn, did you find an internet site? Are you as worried as I am? I go to

sleep and wake worring,,,not a productive way to be.

Thank good ness this list is back. I try to read every note, although there

seems to be too many, but it was far worse without the list.

Hope everyone is feeling well

CREST 15 yrs, AP 2years.

In a message dated 2/2/99 11:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, snooks@...

writes:

> Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

> Breakthrough.

>

> " The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is the

> nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

> arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for what

> it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

> the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

> something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at the

> site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

> possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it is

> likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

> site.

>

> Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

> and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

> elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to discover

> that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time the

> appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

> in another.

>

> The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

> fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where the

> mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

> body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

> mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because the

> body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

> then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

> nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

> attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for defense

> is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

> in new ones. "

> bforwh wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info about

> > nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about

them

> > any info appreciated .

> > Burlyne

February 4, 1999

, I would think that could be a possibility, but there may be other

reasons for them as well. Have you checked this out with Dr. Whitman?

You cannot live in fear. What was it Job said? " For the thing I

greatly feared has come upon me. And what I dreaded has happened to

me. "

I've been where you are and I have no guarantee what may come in the

future, but cancer doesn't hold the fear for me it once did. I'll never

forget the day (1994) Dr. Duvall put his arm around my shoulder and

said, " Ethel, I hate to tell you this, but you have acute leukemia. " *

I knew something was wrong. It had been over a week since the blood

work and biopsy and he was evading me. Dr. Duvall wanted to be sure

before talking to me so he asked me to be at the University hospital at

8 AM that morning. He said there would be about 20 doctors with years

of experience gathering for a meeting and he wanted them to look at me.

Things just weren't looking good so my husband went with me. The

pathlogist also came to the meeting. One by one those doctors came into

my room, looked me over good, questioned me and walked out. Then I was

left alone for about 20 minutes after which Dr. Duvall and the

pathologist came in and requested we follow them back to Dr. Duvall's

office which was in the building next to the hospital where he

practiced. They were going to take a third biopsy. It was then I heard

the news.

I was stunned. I walked out of the office and told my husband. He took

my hand and we walked in silence to the car.

With that diagnosis, I didn't have long. We left that office and went

straight to a health food store where just a few weeks earlier I heard

them discussing a cancer therapy from Canada using diet, supplements and

herbs - an old Indian remedy. I started taking the herbs immediately

and in just over a month everything cleared up. I still take a

maintenance dose off and on. My husband had surgery for stomach cancer

in 1986. He takes the herbals and supplements regularly.

At this same time, I had a friend with breast cancer metastasized to the

bone. We both had the same oncologist. She immediately started the

diet, supplements and herbs and is now in remission. Then there were

the two women here in Dallas in their late 30's with breast cancer. The

one, daughter of a dentist and sister of a pediatrician, had both

breasts removed and now the cancer was back. A friend had heard me

speak at one of the country clubs here and she came to see me. Today

she is free of cancer.

The other woman was a lab technician at the local hospital. Her

husband's business partner had heard me speak at that same club. She

said over the years she watched cancer patients returning to the

hospital for more toxic therapies. Everytime they came they looked

worse until finally they died. She knew cut, burn and poison was not

the way for her. That woman too is free of cancer.

The families of both of these women thought at the time they were out of

their minds not to follow conventional therapy.

My sister, a nurse, was so impressed she told their lawyer about the

therapy. His wife was dying with an ovarian type cancer. Ellen

made up the herbs, laid out a diet and supplements and personally

supervised this woman's recovery. That was in 1994. I've lost count of

the number of people who have been helped by this therapy. I've also

seen it work for melanoma and cancer of the brain, lungs, pancreas, and

liver. Several friends have found it effective for allergies and

asthma.

The information I've learned about cancer and the various effective

alternative therapies used to treat it is absolutely amazing. I've also

learned:

1. How powerful diet is in maintaining and regaining health.

2. The importance of keeping the colon clean daily.

3. The body's many needs for water.

4. The importance of adequate supplements including antioxidents.

5. The role of exercise in maintaining health.

I can't control environmental pollutants that are in the very air we

breathe, but I do follow the above 5 guidelines.

Scleroderma can be just as nasty as cancer. Instead of worrying and

fearing the worst, put your energy into doing all you can to get better.

Keep a positive attitude.

just asked if anyone had read Norman Cousins book The Anatomy of

an Illness. Norman holed himself up in a hotel room and rented funny

movies that made him laugh. He understood the importance a positive

attitude had on his system.

Ethel

RTC@... wrote:

>

> From: RTC@...

>

> So Ethel, Do you think that nodules in the lungs are the same? I sure hope so.

> Dr. Chiu are you reading this? My docs are ready to open my lungs up to see

> if my lung nodules are cancer.

>

> Burlyn, did you find an internet site? Are you as worried as I am? I go to

> sleep and wake worring,,,not a productive way to be.

> Thank good ness this list is back. I try to read every note, although there

> seems to be too many, but it was far worse without the list.

> Hope everyone is feeling well

>

> CREST 15 yrs, AP 2years.

>

> In a message dated 2/2/99 11:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, snooks@...

> writes:

>

> > Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

> > Breakthrough.

> >

> > " The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is the

> > nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

> > arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for what

> > it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

> > the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

> > something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at the

> > site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

> > possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it is

> > likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

> > site.

> >

> > Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

> > and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

> > elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to discover

> > that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time the

> > appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

> > in another.

> >

> > The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

> > fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where the

> > mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

> > body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

> > mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because the

> > body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

> > then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

> > nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

> > attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for defense

> > is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

> > in new ones. "

> > bforwh wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info about

> > > nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about

> them

> > > any info appreciated .

> > > Burlyne

>

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February 4, 1999

hello . I never found a site about the lung nodules yet they say mine isn't

nodules and that it is cancer but I don't believe them and never have my

pnuemonia hasn't cleared up completely yet

I went to an herbilist yesterday and she tested me using accupreasure and

told me every problem that I had and I hadn't told her anything but she told

me I didn't have cancer I go today for another CT scan to see if that spot

is still there and if it is they want to give me chemo but I am going for

the herbs instead they already gave me radiation and it wasn't even where

the cancer is supposed to be But when fromthe first time they told me I

just couldn't except it and still don't so I am really hoping they are wrong

there are a lot of things I have found on the internet that can cause a spot

like mine on the lungs snd for what I been thru it sounds they sound more

logical so don't give up hope on yourself or God

Burlyne

rheumatic Re: nodules

>From: Snooks <snooks@...>

>

>, I would think that could be a possibility, but there may be other

>reasons for them as well. Have you checked this out with Dr. Whitman?

>

>You cannot live in fear. What was it Job said? " For the thing I

>greatly feared has come upon me. And what I dreaded has happened to

>me. "

>

>I've been where you are and I have no guarantee what may come in the

>future, but cancer doesn't hold the fear for me it once did. I'll never

>forget the day (1994) Dr. Duvall put his arm around my shoulder and

>said, " Ethel, I hate to tell you this, but you have acute leukemia. " *

>

>I knew something was wrong. It had been over a week since the blood

>work and biopsy and he was evading me. Dr. Duvall wanted to be sure

>before talking to me so he asked me to be at the University hospital at

>8 AM that morning. He said there would be about 20 doctors with years

>of experience gathering for a meeting and he wanted them to look at me.

>Things just weren't looking good so my husband went with me. The

>pathlogist also came to the meeting. One by one those doctors came into

>my room, looked me over good, questioned me and walked out. Then I was

>left alone for about 20 minutes after which Dr. Duvall and the

>pathologist came in and requested we follow them back to Dr. Duvall's

>office which was in the building next to the hospital where he

>practiced. They were going to take a third biopsy. It was then I heard

>the news.

>

>I was stunned. I walked out of the office and told my husband. He took

>my hand and we walked in silence to the car.

>

>With that diagnosis, I didn't have long. We left that office and went

>straight to a health food store where just a few weeks earlier I heard

>them discussing a cancer therapy from Canada using diet, supplements and

>herbs - an old Indian remedy. I started taking the herbs immediately

>and in just over a month everything cleared up. I still take a

>maintenance dose off and on. My husband had surgery for stomach cancer

>in 1986. He takes the herbals and supplements regularly.

>

>At this same time, I had a friend with breast cancer metastasized to the

>bone. We both had the same oncologist. She immediately started the

>diet, supplements and herbs and is now in remission. Then there were

>the two women here in Dallas in their late 30's with breast cancer. The

>one, daughter of a dentist and sister of a pediatrician, had both

>breasts removed and now the cancer was back. A friend had heard me

>speak at one of the country clubs here and she came to see me. Today

>she is free of cancer.

>

>The other woman was a lab technician at the local hospital. Her

>husband's business partner had heard me speak at that same club. She

>said over the years she watched cancer patients returning to the

>hospital for more toxic therapies. Everytime they came they looked

>worse until finally they died. She knew cut, burn and poison was not

>the way for her. That woman too is free of cancer.

>

>The families of both of these women thought at the time they were out of

>their minds not to follow conventional therapy.

>

>My sister, a nurse, was so impressed she told their lawyer about the

>therapy. His wife was dying with an ovarian type cancer. Ellen

>made up the herbs, laid out a diet and supplements and personally

>supervised this woman's recovery. That was in 1994. I've lost count of

>the number of people who have been helped by this therapy. I've also

>seen it work for melanoma and cancer of the brain, lungs, pancreas, and

>liver. Several friends have found it effective for allergies and

>asthma.

>

>The information I've learned about cancer and the various effective

>alternative therapies used to treat it is absolutely amazing. I've also

>learned:

>1. How powerful diet is in maintaining and regaining health.

>2. The importance of keeping the colon clean daily.

>3. The body's many needs for water.

>4. The importance of adequate supplements including antioxidents.

>5. The role of exercise in maintaining health.

>

>I can't control environmental pollutants that are in the very air we

>breathe, but I do follow the above 5 guidelines.

>

>Scleroderma can be just as nasty as cancer. Instead of worrying and

>fearing the worst, put your energy into doing all you can to get better.

>Keep a positive attitude.

>

> just asked if anyone had read Norman Cousins book The Anatomy of

>an Illness. Norman holed himself up in a hotel room and rented funny

>movies that made him laugh. He understood the importance a positive

>attitude had on his system.

>

>Ethel

>

>RTC@... wrote:

>>

>> From: RTC@...

>>

>> So Ethel, Do you think that nodules in the lungs are the same? I sure

hope so.

>> Dr. Chiu are you reading this? My docs are ready to open my lungs up to

see

>> if my lung nodules are cancer.

>>

>> Burlyn, did you find an internet site? Are you as worried as I am? I go

to

>> sleep and wake worring,,,not a productive way to be.

>> Thank good ness this list is back. I try to read every note, although

there

>> seems to be too many, but it was far worse without the list.

>> Hope everyone is feeling well

>>

>> CREST 15 yrs, AP 2years.

>>

>> In a message dated 2/2/99 11:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

snooks@...

>> writes:

>>

>> > Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

>> > Breakthrough.

>> >

>> > " The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is

the

>> > nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

>> > arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for

what

>> > it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

>> > the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

>> > something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at

the

>> > site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

>> > possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it

is

>> > likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

>> > site.

>> >

>> > Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

>> > and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

>> > elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to

discover

>> > that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time

the

>> > appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

>> > in another.

>> >

>> > The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

>> > fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where

the

>> > mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

>> > body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

>> > mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because

the

>> > body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

>> > then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

>> > nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

>> > attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for

defense

>> > is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

>> > in new ones. "

>> > bforwh wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Hello

>> > > I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info

about

>> > > nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more

about

>> them

>> > > any info appreciated .

>> > >

Burlyne

>>

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February 4, 1999

Please let me know what happens with your CAT. I will get a second opinion or

two before I let them cut.

Where are you located? Dr. Whitman gave me the name of a pulminologist he

trusts, and urged me to go there before any cutting.

In a message dated 2/4/99 9:42:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, bforwh@...

writes:

> hello . I never found a site about the lung nodules yet they say mine isn't

> nodules and that it is cancer but I don't believe them and never have my

> pnuemonia hasn't cleared up completely yet

> I went to an herbilist yesterday and she tested me using accupreasure and

> told me every problem that I had and I hadn't told her anything but she

told

> me I didn't have cancer I go today for another CT scan to see if that spot

> is still there and if it is they want to give me chemo but I am going for

> the herbs instead they already gave me radiation and it wasn't even

where

> the cancer is supposed to be But when fromthe first time they told me I

> just couldn't except it and still don't so I am really hoping they are

wrong

> there are a lot of things I have found on the internet that can cause a

spot

> like mine on the lungs snd for what I been thru it sounds they sound more

> logical so don't give up hope on yourself or God

> Burlyne

February 5, 1999

The herbs are -

burdock root

sheep sorrel

slippery elm

turkey root

Lea Tanner wrote:

>

> From: Lea Tanner <cocka2.@...>

>

> Will you share with us what herbs were used?

>

> Snooks wrote:

>

> > From: Snooks <snooks@...>

> >

> > , I would think that could be a possibility, but there may be other

> > reasons for them as well. Have you checked this out with Dr. Whitman?

> >

> > You cannot live in fear. What was it Job said? " For the thing I

> > greatly feared has come upon me. And what I dreaded has happened to

> > me. "

> >

> > I've been where you are and I have no guarantee what may come in the

> > future, but cancer doesn't hold the fear for me it once did. I'll never

> > forget the day (1994) Dr. Duvall put his arm around my shoulder and

> > said, " Ethel, I hate to tell you this, but you have acute leukemia. " *

> >

> > I knew something was wrong. It had been over a week since the blood

> > work and biopsy and he was evading me. Dr. Duvall wanted to be sure

> > before talking to me so he asked me to be at the University hospital at

> > 8 AM that morning. He said there would be about 20 doctors with years

> > of experience gathering for a meeting and he wanted them to look at me.

> > Things just weren't looking good so my husband went with me. The

> > pathlogist also came to the meeting. One by one those doctors came into

> > my room, looked me over good, questioned me and walked out. Then I was

> > left alone for about 20 minutes after which Dr. Duvall and the

> > pathologist came in and requested we follow them back to Dr. Duvall's

> > office which was in the building next to the hospital where he

> > practiced. They were going to take a third biopsy. It was then I heard

> > the news.

> >

> > I was stunned. I walked out of the office and told my husband. He took

> > my hand and we walked in silence to the car.

> >

> > With that diagnosis, I didn't have long. We left that office and went

> > straight to a health food store where just a few weeks earlier I heard

> > them discussing a cancer therapy from Canada using diet, supplements and

> > herbs - an old Indian remedy. I started taking the herbs immediately

> > and in just over a month everything cleared up. I still take a

> > maintenance dose off and on. My husband had surgery for stomach cancer

> > in 1986. He takes the herbals and supplements regularly.

> >

> > At this same time, I had a friend with breast cancer metastasized to the

> > bone. We both had the same oncologist. She immediately started the

> > diet, supplements and herbs and is now in remission. Then there were

> > the two women here in Dallas in their late 30's with breast cancer. The

> > one, daughter of a dentist and sister of a pediatrician, had both

> > breasts removed and now the cancer was back. A friend had heard me

> > speak at one of the country clubs here and she came to see me. Today

> > she is free of cancer.

> >

> > The other woman was a lab technician at the local hospital. Her

> > husband's business partner had heard me speak at that same club. She

> > said over the years she watched cancer patients returning to the

> > hospital for more toxic therapies. Everytime they came they looked

> > worse until finally they died. She knew cut, burn and poison was not

> > the way for her. That woman too is free of cancer.

> >

> > The families of both of these women thought at the time they were out of

> > their minds not to follow conventional therapy.

> >

> > My sister, a nurse, was so impressed she told their lawyer about the

> > therapy. His wife was dying with an ovarian type cancer. Ellen

> > made up the herbs, laid out a diet and supplements and personally

> > supervised this woman's recovery. That was in 1994. I've lost count of

> > the number of people who have been helped by this therapy. I've also

> > seen it work for melanoma and cancer of the brain, lungs, pancreas, and

> > liver. Several friends have found it effective for allergies and

> > asthma.

> >

> > The information I've learned about cancer and the various effective

> > alternative therapies used to treat it is absolutely amazing. I've also

> > learned:

> > 1. How powerful diet is in maintaining and regaining health.

> > 2. The importance of keeping the colon clean daily.

> > 3. The body's many needs for water.

> > 4. The importance of adequate supplements including antioxidents.

> > 5. The role of exercise in maintaining health.

> >

> > I can't control environmental pollutants that are in the very air we

> > breathe, but I do follow the above 5 guidelines.

> >

> > Scleroderma can be just as nasty as cancer. Instead of worrying and

> > fearing the worst, put your energy into doing all you can to get better.

> > Keep a positive attitude.

> >

> > just asked if anyone had read Norman Cousins book The Anatomy of

> > an Illness. Norman holed himself up in a hotel room and rented funny

> > movies that made him laugh. He understood the importance a positive

> > attitude had on his system.

> >

> > Ethel

> >

> > RTC@... wrote:

> > >

> > > From: RTC@...

> > >

> > > So Ethel, Do you think that nodules in the lungs are the same? I sure hope

so.

> > > Dr. Chiu are you reading this? My docs are ready to open my lungs up to

see

> > > if my lung nodules are cancer.

> > >

> > > Burlyn, did you find an internet site? Are you as worried as I am? I go to

> > > sleep and wake worring,,,not a productive way to be.

> > > Thank good ness this list is back. I try to read every note, although

there

> > > seems to be too many, but it was far worse without the list.

> > > Hope everyone is feeling well

> > >

> > > CREST 15 yrs, AP 2years.

> > >

> > > In a message dated 2/2/99 11:42:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

snooks@...

> > > writes:

> > >

> > > > Dr. Brown talked about nodules on page 149 of The New Arthritis

> > > > Breakthrough.

> > > >

> > > > " The most pronounced and classic symptom of rheumatoid arthritis is the

> > > > nodule, which appears at the joints as the first external evidence of

> > > > arthritic disfigurement. Because this is so widely recognized for what

> > > > it represents, some victims of the disease are actually relieved when

> > > > the first rheumatoid nodule appears; now, at last, the patient has

> > > > something tangible to take to the doctor. Nodules usually arise at the

> > > > site of some injury, such as a sprain or bump, and although it is

> > > > possible to have one or two without necessarily having arthritis, it is

> > > > likely that all such nodules are the result of disease activity at the

> > > > site.

> > > >

> > > > Nodules are unlike malignant lesions that keep on spreading, however,

> > > > and they can come and go. Sometimes a patient will detect one on an

> > > > elbow or wrist and make an appointment with the doctor, only to

discover

> > > > that the nodule has receded and perhaps even disappeared by the time

the

> > > > appointment is kept. Or it can vanish in one place and reappear later

> > > > in another.

> > > >

> > > > The most likely explanation for these nodules is that they contain

> > > > fibrous tissue that forms in a skein around the small lesions where the

> > > > mycoplasmas are located. The tissue is a protective response by the

> > > > body to contain the infection and keep it from spreading. If the

> > > > mycoplasma antigen stops coming out for some reason, either because the

> > > > body's defense puts it down for a while or a medicine suppresses it,

> > > > then the scar tissue surrounding the germ is no longer needed and the

> > > > nodule goes away. The process by which this occurs is one of natural

> > > > attrition; cells are periodically replaced, and if the cause for

defense

> > > > is no longer there, the body will remove the old cells without sending

> > > > in new ones. "

> > > > bforwh wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > I need some info on the nodules as well does anyone have any info

about

> > > > > nodules on the lungs or know of a site where I might learn more about

> > > them

> > > > > any info appreciated .

> > > > >

Burlyne

> > >

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February 5, 1999

Ethal was it Essiac a formula who a lady named Cassie (spelled backwards for

the name of the formula) who supposedly got it from the Canadian natives?

Bev