Introduction

[Guest guest]

On 5/4/07, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote:

> We live in (soon to be about 12 miles outside of) Casper, Wyoming. I am

building a strawbale house, we raise a large garden, and homeschool our two

children. On my spare time, I try to get the ends within viewing distance of

each other (sometime, I hope they do meet). I am a writer and a wood turner. One

of my recent customers encouraged me to let others interested in Lacto-fermented

foods know that I make and sell wooden vegetable pounders. You can see a sample

at my website, http://www.heinfamilyenterprises.com/health/pounder.html.

>

> I hope I am not breaking any group policies against advertisement. If so, let

me > know.

Hi Ellis,

Welcome to the group. I'm the group owner and I think it's just dandy

for authentic group participants to informally advertise meaningful,

artisanal products like this with a clear and specific connection to

the microbial nutrition topics of the group (and not " health in

general " topics, for which other internet groups exist). It's so easy

to tell the difference between spam and authentic, community-based

advertising that I see no reason to enforce any blanket policies

against it. I'm sure plenty of people will be delighted to find a

source for vegetable pounders. Another great example of appropriate

advertising would be the ceramic weight thingies Heidi has talked

about making and selling for a long time.

Although it doesn't work for pounding, when I make fermented veggies I

put them in a half-gallon mason jar and pack the veggies down with a

half-pint regular-mouth mason jar that fits nicely inside the larger

jar's wide mouth. It works great for packing things in tight. You

can even put one of the white plastic lids on the small jar to make it

more gentle on the hands.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellis,

Your wooden pounders are beautiful. When I make kraut I tend to do it in larger

containers

and have been using wine bottles with a heavy bottom for pounding since I am in

the wine

business. But I have also come to realize that a 2 quart canning jar is a

perfect batch size

for personal use and glass on glass for pounding is pretty risky.

It never occured to me to use fermented buckwheat--I'll give it a try. My

favorite sour

potion is kefir which I ferment daily and share with our chickens so we will all

be resistent

to avian flu and various other ills of modern society.

Keep sticking your oar in.

Lou

\\

>

> Hello, I am new to the group, though not so new to lacto-fermentation. I have

been

fermenting vegetables for a number of years and have started enjoying my

breakfast

oatmeal (really a mix of various grains) in lacto-fermented form. We (my wife,

two children

(not so much), and I have found lacto-fermented buckwheat to be a sufficient

substitute

for sour-cream. Now, maybe I have been away from sour cream long enough that my

taste

buds are easily fooled, but that is ok. I can still vividly remember the sour

cream we had

on the farm in Oklahoma, so I do have some basis for comparison.)

>

> We live in (soon to be about 12 miles outside of) Casper, Wyoming. I am

building a

strawbale house, we raise a large garden, and homeschool our two children. On my

spare

time, I try to get the ends within viewing distance of each other (sometime, I

hope they do

meet). I am a writer and a wood turner. One of my recent customers encouraged me

to let

others interested in Lacto-fermented foods know that I make and sell wooden

vegetable

pounders. You can see a sample at my website,

http://www.heinfamilyenterprises.com/

health/pounder.html.

>

> I hope I am not breaking any group policies against advertisement. If so, let

me know.

>

> I'll probably not have a lot of time to respond to messages from this group,

but will put

in my oar when I can.

>

> Ellis Hein

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lou,

Thanks for the compliment about my vegetable pounders.

I agree that a glass bottle pounding in or packinging into a glass jar would be

a little risky. There are probably many options for wooden pounders such as a

rolling pin. (But I am happy to provide my version to those who wish to purchase

it.) The bulk of the work falls on the " shoulders " of those microscopic fellows,

the lacto-bacilli.

There are many things that I want to try fermenting and am always expermenting.

Last summer we grew some huge radishes, must have weighed about a pound. They

weren't bad right out of the ground, but fermented they were extraordinary. We

ran out of them too soon. Will have to plant some more this year.

Ellis Hein

www.health-helps-you.com

Re: Introduction

Hi Ellis,

Your wooden pounders are beautiful. When I make kraut I tend to do it in

larger containers

and have been using wine bottles with a heavy bottom for pounding since I am

in the wine

business. But I have also come to realize that a 2 quart canning jar is a

perfect batch size

for personal use and glass on glass for pounding is pretty risky.

It never occured to me to use fermented buckwheat--I'll give it a try. My

favorite sour

potion is kefir which I ferment daily and share with our chickens so we will

all be resistent

to avian flu and various other ills of modern society.

Keep sticking your oar in.

Lou

\\

>

> Hello, I am new to the group, though not so new to lacto-fermentation. I

have been

fermenting vegetables for a number of years and have started enjoying my

breakfast

oatmeal (really a mix of various grains) in lacto-fermented form. We (my wife,

two children

(not so much), and I have found lacto-fermented buckwheat to be a sufficient

substitute

for sour-cream. Now, maybe I have been away from sour cream long enough that

my taste

buds are easily fooled, but that is ok. I can still vividly remember the sour

cream we had

on the farm in Oklahoma, so I do have some basis for comparison.)

>

> We live in (soon to be about 12 miles outside of) Casper, Wyoming. I am

building a

strawbale house, we raise a large garden, and homeschool our two children. On

my spare

time, I try to get the ends within viewing distance of each other (sometime, I

hope they do

meet). I am a writer and a wood turner. One of my recent customers encouraged

me to let

others interested in Lacto-fermented foods know that I make and sell wooden

vegetable

pounders. You can see a sample at my website,

http://www.heinfamilyenterprises.com/

health/pounder.html.

>

> I hope I am not breaking any group policies against advertisement. If so,

let me know.

>

> I'll probably not have a lot of time to respond to messages from this group,

but will put

in my oar when I can.

>

> Ellis Hein

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I came upon a good cheap pounder recently at a local Asian grocery store.

It's intended to be the pestle for a Japanese-style mortar, but it's just

the right size to fit in a 1 quart mason jar, and it was like $2.50.

On 5/25/07, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote:

>

> Lou,

>

> Thanks for the compliment about my vegetable pounders.

>

> I agree that a glass bottle pounding in or packinging into a glass jar

> would be a little risky. There are probably many options for wooden pounders

> such as a rolling pin. (But I am happy to provide my version to those who

> wish to purchase it.) The bulk of the work falls on the " shoulders " of those

> microscopic fellows, the lacto-bacilli.

>

> There are many things that I want to try fermenting and am always

> expermenting. Last summer we grew some huge radishes, must have weighed

> about a pound. They weren't bad right out of the ground, but fermented they

> were extraordinary. We ran out of them too soon. Will have to plant some

> more this year.

>

> Ellis Hein

> www.health-helps-you.com

>

>

> Re: Introduction

>

> Hi Ellis,

>

> Your wooden pounders are beautiful. When I make kraut I tend to do it in

> larger containers

> and have been using wine bottles with a heavy bottom for pounding since I

> am in the wine

> business. But I have also come to realize that a 2 quart canning jar is a

> perfect batch size

> for personal use and glass on glass for pounding is pretty risky.

>

> It never occured to me to use fermented buckwheat--I'll give it a try. My

> favorite sour

> potion is kefir which I ferment daily and share with our chickens so we

> will all be resistent

> to avian flu and various other ills of modern society.

>

> Keep sticking your oar in.

>

> Lou

>

> \\

> >

> > Hello, I am new to the group, though not so new to lacto-fermentation. I

> have been

> fermenting vegetables for a number of years and have started enjoying my

> breakfast

> oatmeal (really a mix of various grains) in lacto-fermented form. We (my

> wife, two children

> (not so much), and I have found lacto-fermented buckwheat to be a

> sufficient substitute

> for sour-cream. Now, maybe I have been away from sour cream long enough

> that my taste

> buds are easily fooled, but that is ok. I can still vividly remember the

> sour cream we had

> on the farm in Oklahoma, so I do have some basis for comparison.)

> >

> > We live in (soon to be about 12 miles outside of) Casper, Wyoming. I am

> building a

> strawbale house, we raise a large garden, and homeschool our two children.

> On my spare

> time, I try to get the ends within viewing distance of each other

> (sometime, I hope they do

> meet). I am a writer and a wood turner. One of my recent customers

> encouraged me to let

> others interested in Lacto-fermented foods know that I make and sell

> wooden vegetable

> pounders. You can see a sample at my website,

> http://www.heinfamilyenterprises.com/

> health/pounder.html.

> >

> > I hope I am not breaking any group policies against advertisement. If

> so, let me know.

> >

> > I'll probably not have a lot of time to respond to messages from this

> group, but will put

> in my oar when I can.

> >

> > Ellis Hein

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, there are sometimes such things on the market as the $2.50 Asian " pounder " .

I always wonder how they can make things for that price. I don't think that

would begin to pay for the cost of the wood, let alone the cost of transporting

etc. But from your perspective, I would guess that the real question is " Does it

do the job? " If it does, then you can get on with the business of making

fermented vegetables and enjoy the fruits of a great bargin.

Ellis

Re: Introduction

>

> Hi Ellis,

>

> Your wooden pounders are beautiful. When I make kraut I tend to do it in

> larger containers

> and have been using wine bottles with a heavy bottom for pounding since I

> am in the wine

> business. But I have also come to realize that a 2 quart canning jar is a

> perfect batch size

> for personal use and glass on glass for pounding is pretty risky.

>

> It never occured to me to use fermented buckwheat--I'll give it a try. My

> favorite sour

> potion is kefir which I ferment daily and share with our chickens so we

> will all be resistent

> to avian flu and various other ills of modern society.

>

> Keep sticking your oar in.

>

> Lou

>

> \\

> >

> > Hello, I am new to the group, though not so new to lacto-fermentation. I

> have been

> fermenting vegetables for a number of years and have started enjoying my

> breakfast

> oatmeal (really a mix of various grains) in lacto-fermented form. We (my

> wife, two children

> (not so much), and I have found lacto-fermented buckwheat to be a

> sufficient substitute

> for sour-cream. Now, maybe I have been away from sour cream long enough

> that my taste

> buds are easily fooled, but that is ok. I can still vividly remember the

> sour cream we had

> on the farm in Oklahoma, so I do have some basis for comparison.)

> >

> > We live in (soon to be about 12 miles outside of) Casper, Wyoming. I am

> building a

> strawbale house, we raise a large garden, and homeschool our two children.

> On my spare

> time, I try to get the ends within viewing distance of each other

> (sometime, I hope they do

> meet). I am a writer and a wood turner. One of my recent customers

> encouraged me to let

> others interested in Lacto-fermented foods know that I make and sell

> wooden vegetable

> pounders. You can see a sample at my website,

> http://www.heinfamilyenterprises.com/

> health/pounder.html.

> >

> > I hope I am not breaking any group policies against advertisement. If

> so, let me know.

> >

> > I'll probably not have a lot of time to respond to messages from this

> group, but will put

> in my oar when I can.

> >

> > Ellis Hein

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I agree -- " Whatever works! " .

However, I'd also point out that in the book " Keeping food fresh " , many of

the older recipes don't use pounding at all. Kraut wasn't generally pounded

except to make it fit in the crock. The vegies will wilt on their own when

there is salt or vinegar around, and in some cultures they just set the

leaves or whatever out in the sun so they wilt (making them easier to pack

into the fermenting vessel. Also if they wilt first, they will be crispier

later). Korean kimchi isn't pounded at all, just mixed with a paste.

So while you *can* pound your vegies if you want, and it does release

natural juices if you do it hat way, it's by no means required. I make my

kraut usually by just pouring some salt water over it. That gives me lots of

extra juice, and it's very easy. I use 2T salt, 2T vinegar, to 1 quart

boiled water (boil it, then let it cool: esp. if it's well water, which has

competing bacteria in it). Some people just add some salt to the kraut, let

it wilt and release some water, then pack it.

--

On 5/29/07, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Yes, there are sometimes such things on the market as the $2.50 Asian

> " pounder " . I always wonder how they can make things for that price. I don't

> think that would begin to pay for the cost of the wood, let alone the cost

> of transporting etc. But from your perspective, I would guess that the real

> question is " Does it do the job? " If it does, then you can get on with the

> business of making fermented vegetables and enjoy the fruits of a great

> bargin.

>

> Ellis

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, you are right. If you have been to my website and looked at the recipes I

have there, I use salt and the Spectrabiotic innoculant to draw the juices out

of the vegetables. That seems to work as well as when I pounded things. However,

the pounder also doubles as an excellent packer for stuffing the vegetables into

jars and getting the juice above the level of the vegetables. I have tried using

various sizes of pounders for packing into jars and what seems to work best is

something as close to the size of the jar as will fit through the top. That

works until I get near the top and the juice wants to run over the top before I

have put in enough vegetables. Then I switch to a pounder that is about 1 inch

in diameter to finish filling the jar.

I have never used crocks, but I would imagine that something about 2 1/2 inches

would still work well for packing into them.

Ellis Hein

www.health-helps-you.com

----- Original Message -----

From:

[Guest guest]

I do have a crock, but it's too much work! I ended up making these little

ceramic things I call " Dunkers " and intend someday to market. I just stick

one on top of the vegies and screw the top down, and the Dunker compacts the

vegies. I can't bring myself to use a pounder in a glass jar: I'm not that

coordinated. I do use pounders in a big stainless bowl I have, sometimes,

and I LOVE your wood turned items (I think I should order some just because

they are gorgeous!). Using a well-shaped " packer " is a good idea ...

--

On 6/6/07, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> Yes, you are right. If you have been to my website and looked at the

> recipes I have there, I use salt and the Spectrabiotic innoculant to draw

> the juices out of the vegetables. That seems to work as well as when I

> pounded things. However, the pounder also doubles as an excellent packer for

> stuffing the vegetables into jars and getting the juice above the level of

> the vegetables. I have tried using various sizes of pounders for packing

> into jars and what seems to work best is something as close to the size of

> the jar as will fit through the top. That works until I get near the top and

> the juice wants to run over the top before I have put in enough vegetables.

> Then I switch to a pounder that is about 1 inch in diameter to finish

> filling the jar.

>

> I have never used crocks, but I would imagine that something about 2 1/2

> inches would still work well for packing into them.

>

>

> Ellis Hein

>

> www.health-helps-you.com

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

[Guest guest]

,

I like the idea of your dunkers. They should be something that would be of

interest people using crocks.

I agree that one shouldn't pound in a glass jar. It is not a matter of

cooridination. Pounding on glass always produces predictable results (to state

the obvious). When I pound anything, I always use a stainless bowl also. The

only reason I have sized the pounders to fit into a quart jar (wide-mouth) is so

that I can also use them as packers. The rounded handle makes a comfortable grip

to lean on when packing. Again that has evolved because I did not like the feel

of my previous design.

Thank you for the compliment on the looks of the pounders. They also can be put

on a shelf to be looked at, but I thought that was just because I had made them

and liked to l ook at them. So my vanity is exposed!

Ellis

----- Original Message -----

From:

[Guest guest]

Vanity? No, I think people who are craftspeople all like

to show off their crafts. I really liked your website! I was

a watchmaker at one point, and did a lot of lathe-work,

albeit it was in micrometers and no one much got to see

the results (you couldn't see the results without a loupe

anyway).

Dunkers are mainly useful though, if you only use mason

jars. The Harsch crocks come with their own weights.

Big ceramic crocks SHOULD come with their own weights:

in the old days people used wood.

Maybe we should make a package deal: packers plus dunkers ...

and a book to explain the process.

--

On 6/8/07, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I like the idea of your dunkers. They should be something that would be of

> interest people using crocks.

>

> I agree that one shouldn't pound in a glass jar. It is not a matter of

> cooridination. Pounding on glass always produces predictable results (to

> state the obvious). When I pound anything, I always use a stainless bowl

> also. The only reason I have sized the pounders to fit into a quart jar

> (wide-mouth) is so that I can also use them as packers. The rounded handle

> makes a comfortable grip to lean on when packing. Again that has evolved

> because I did not like the feel of my previous design.

>

> Thank you for the compliment on the looks of the pounders. They also can

> be put on a shelf to be looked at, but I thought that was just because I had

> made them and liked to l ook at them. So my vanity is exposed!

>

> Ellis

> ----- Original Message -----

> From:

[Guest guest]

Hello, , welcome! I know you will feel right at home here ---- there are truly some remarkable people here. There are just so many emotions we go through as parents dealing with a child with JRA; and everyone here understands here. It's heaven sent... I am so glad you have already found a good rheumatologist --- that's usually the first battle. Your daughter is so terribly young ---- I've said it before and I'll say it again, IT"S NOT FAIR! Isabelle had just turned two when she had her first symptoms of JIA. Again, not fair. Again, Welcome, Hadley (Isabelle, 3 poly)mome2juliahna <mome2juliahna@...> wrote: Hello. I'm . My daughter, hna (20 months old), was diagnosedwith JRA in late July but I suspect she's had it since the beginningof April. I was lucky enough to find an excellent rheumatologist who Itrust whole heartedly. It's nice to know that I've found a place where I can come thateveryone will understand my feelings and emotions of watching mydaughter go through what she is. I look forward to getting to know you.

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Yes I guess I should have introduced myself - my name is Mindy - I

live in Perth, Australia. Been on the diet a week now - finding

myself making mistakes especially in what I buy but I am sure I will

get there eventually! As many other Australians have said, it can be

difficult to find the right stuff here.

I am usually the type of person who gives up too easily however I

have found this week that having dying off symptoms has actually

motivated me to continue with this because it proved to me that it is

actually doing something. I had sore throat and ear most of the week

and now my eyes are infected. The toxins certainly seem to be

wanting to come out lol.

> >

> > I am on day 5 of the diet - I can't believe how many die-off

> symptoms I

> > am getting already! However I guess I have had vaginal yeast

> problems

> > for about 14 years...

> >

> > Anyway I was feeling so sick and reading all the stuff about

> vitamin c

> > so i went out and bought a $20 container. And then went back to

> files

> > and realised the only way you can take it is by making them.

Such

> a

> > waste of money! Will probably cost another $40 to get the stuff

I

> > really need from the rip-off health stores.

> >

> > While I am there, is there anything that I can get for vaginal

> smell?

> > Since day 2 of the diet I have smelled like....well...rotting

> food.

> > One night I soaked a tampon in tea tree oil and water and

inserted

> it

> > over night. Was that ok? Helped for one day - any other

> suggestions

> > (other than Nistatin which I cant afford)?

>

> ==>Hi There. Welcome to our group. What is your name please? You

> can also take a vitamin C tablet; you don't have to mix your own

with

> ascorbic acid crystals. In fact I've eliminated the mixture

because

> baking soda is high in sodium. You can take ascorbic acid crystals

> in water without the baking soda, but have it with meals since it

can

> be hard on the stomach, and also rinse your mouth with plain water

> after taking it because it is also hard on the teeth.

>

> For vaginal problems please see the article on treating it, which

is

> in our Group's Files (left hand menu) in the Women's Health Issues

> Folder. Most of the treatments are very inexpensive, and you do

not

> have to use Nystatin.

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> Yes I guess I should have introduced myself - my name is Mindy - I

> live in Perth, Australia.

==>Hi Mindy. I like your name.

> Been on the diet a week now - finding myself making mistakes

especially in what I buy but I am sure I will get there eventually!

As many other Australians have said, it can be difficult to find the

right stuff here.

==>Yes it is tough to find the right supplements in Australia.

>

> I am usually the type of person who gives up too easily however I

> have found this week that having dying off symptoms has actually

> motivated me to continue with this because it proved to me that it

is actually doing something. I had sore throat and ear most of the

week and now my eyes are infected. The toxins certainly seem to be

> wanting to come out lol.

==>That's great you understand about die-off/detox symptoms. I

suggest these articles: 1) " Curing Candida, How to Get Started "

(found in the 1st folder in our files), and 2) ear and eye treatments

(found in the Treatments folder).

I detoxified for 3 months through my eyes when I was doing the

candida program 20 years ago. It was something else!

I wish you the very best and hope to hear how you are doing as you

progress on this program.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Mindy

Perth, that sounds familiar. I think I know where that is !

That's right, It's that pretty little town that I see on the horizon

every time I drive down to Midland from where I live in Glen Forrest

Small world isn't it

paul

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi -

> My name is . I have had some health problems for awhile now and

> have routinely been told that they are " all in my head. " Fortunately,

> i now have a doctor that recognizes that candida may be the problem.

> I spent most of my childhood/adolescence on antibiotics and spent over

> 8 months on oral prednisone in undergrad. I am now 27 and in graduate

> school. The fatigue i suffer from is debilitating and i have a host

> of other symptoms that cause much distress. I sent in my stool test

> this past monday and am anxiously awaiting the results. It would be

> great to finally find a problem so that i can start working on a

solution!

> I look forward to chatting with all of you and will be reading over

> your site - it looks like it contains tons of great information!

==>Hi . Welcome to our group. We have all had similar problems

going from doctor to doctor since most doctors do not acknowledge

candida overgrowth causes so many symptoms, illnesses and

malfunctions. They also have so little training in nutrition.

Be forewarned that stool tests cannot be relied upon as to whether you

have candida or not. The reasons are explained in my article " How to

Successfully Overcome Candida " :

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_8.php

The only reliable test is Dr. Crook's Candida Questionnaire found in

that same article.

Also print out the 2nd article on that menu " Curing Candida, How to Get

Started " .

This program is the solution to your health problems because you can

only cure candida, and most physical ailments, by building up your

immune system with proper nutrition, elimination of toxins, and

eliminating foods that feed candida.

Your journey starts by reading and learning, so enjoy! You'll be so

glad you did.

We look forward to chatting with you too. Once you've learned what

this group is all about and you understand the program we are here to

help you apply it. You can't go wrong following Nature's Laws by

giving your body what it needs to heal itself.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi -

> My name is . I have had some health problems for awhile now and

> have routinely been told that they are " all in my head. " Fortunately,

> i now have a doctor that recognizes that candida may be the problem.

> I spent most of my childhood/adolescence on antibiotics and spent over

> 8 months on oral prednisone in undergrad. I am now 27 and in graduate

> school. The fatigue i suffer from is debilitating and i have a host

> of other symptoms that cause much distress. I sent in my stool test

> this past monday and am anxiously awaiting the results. It would be

> great to finally find a problem so that i can start working on a solution!

> I look forward to chatting with all of you and will be reading over

> your site - it looks like it contains tons of great information!

>

>

Welcome to our group! I also did a stool test but it came back totally normal.

I've since

learned that those tests are not very accurate. But I have been on this diet

now for 9

months and I can really recommend it. My body had been responding to this

program like

it has never responded to any of the multiple detox/candida/dietary programs I

had tried

before this one.

Good luck and see you here on the list!

[Guest guest]

 

Well hello Dodge, lol.  Fancy seeing you here!!!

 

Love and hugs,

Annie

From: Dodge <medicdodge@...>

Subject: Introduction

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi all:

I'll attempt to do this in sequence... About me...

I am a 32-year-old firefighter, with an emphasis on wildland, forest and brush

fires, a paramedic, both in an ambulance and in a helicopter and a National Park

Law Enforcement ranger. I work each job a week at a time. When I am too ill to

do those things, I work in the EMS dispatch center.

Almost three years ago, in a wildland fire gone horribly wrong, I sustained 4th

and 5th degree burns over 85% of my body. In short, I was burned so badly that

my organs and bones were burned. Hence my saying often that I am

glad to be able to work and be alive. I am truly lucky to be here.

While at the burn center, my doctors discovered that I had Ankylosing

Spondylitis, Lupus, SJ, Fibro and RSD. Both my rheumatologists and my docs at

the burn center feel that my AI diseases were in part brought out due to the

fire. Fires emit a lot of toxic chemicals.

When I am not working, (work is my greatest passion), I am spending time

off-duty with my partner Rod, who is also a medic. We have three horses, twelve

dogs, some rabbits and a half-feral coyote. We travel a lot, shoot for fun,

blog, live in the backcountry when we can, play video games and read... I love

a good book.

Well, I'll close for now. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you

out there in land, and I am looking forward to talking with other spineys

and discussing the special challenges we face.

--

Dodge

A skeptic is a person who, when he sees the handwriting on the wall,

claims it's a forgery.

Read my blog at:

http://jumpthis. wordpress. com

[Guest guest]

Annie:

I keep following you round the 'net, don't I?

Hugs,

--

Dodge

A skeptic is a person who, when he sees the handwriting on the wall,

claims it's a forgery.

Read my blog at:

http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

---- Annie G <fudgie4u@...> wrote:

=============

 

Well hello Dodge, lol.  Fancy seeing you here!!!

 

Love and hugs,

Annie

[Guest guest]

 

LOL, seems like it Dodge!!!  Good to see ya here!!

 

Hugs,

Annie

============ =

 

Well hello Dodge, lol.  Fancy seeing you here!!!

 

Love and hugs,

Annie

[Guest guest]

It sounds like you live in paradise. I can imagine

living such a peaceful life like that... God's

country...I'm jealous! I hate the city. ---

--- Dodge <medicdodge@...> wrote:

> Hi all:

>

> I'll attempt to do this in sequence... About me...

>

> I am a 32-year-old firefighter, with an emphasis on

> wildland, forest and brush

> fires, a paramedic, both in an ambulance and in a

> helicopter and a National Park

> Law Enforcement ranger. I work each job a week at a

> time. When I am too ill to

> do those things, I work in the EMS dispatch center.

>

> Almost three years ago, in a wildland fire gone

> horribly wrong, I sustained 4th

> and 5th degree burns over 85% of my body. In short,

> I was burned so badly that

> my organs and bones were burned. Hence my saying

> often that I am

> glad to be able to work and be alive. I am truly

> lucky to be here.

>

> While at the burn center, my doctors discovered that

> I had Ankylosing

> Spondylitis, Lupus, SJ, Fibro and RSD. Both my

> rheumatologists and my docs at

> the burn center feel that my AI diseases were in

> part brought out due to the

> fire. Fires emit a lot of toxic chemicals.

>

> When I am not working, (work is my greatest

> passion), I am spending time

> off-duty with my partner Rod, who is also a medic.

> We have three horses, twelve

> dogs, some rabbits and a half-feral coyote. We

> travel a lot, shoot for fun,

> blog, live in the backcountry when we can, play

> video games and read... I love

> a good book.

>

> Well, I'll close for now. I am looking forward to

> getting to know all of you

> out there in land, and I am looking forward to

> talking with other spineys

> and discussing the special challenges we face.

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> A skeptic is a person who, when he sees the

> handwriting on the wall,

> claims it's a forgery.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Dodge,

Nice to meet you. Welcome to the group

Donna

spinal problems

From: medicdodge@...

Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:00:45 -0400

Subject: Introduction

Hi all:

I'll attempt to do this in sequence... About me...

I am a 32-year-old firefighter, with an emphasis on wildland, forest and brush

fires, a paramedic, both in an ambulance and in a helicopter and a National Park

Law Enforcement ranger. I work each job a week at a time. When I am too ill to

do those things, I work in the EMS dispatch center.

Almost three years ago, in a wildland fire gone horribly wrong, I sustained 4th

and 5th degree burns over 85% of my body. In short, I was burned so badly that

my organs and bones were burned. Hence my saying often that I am

glad to be able to work and be alive. I am truly lucky to be here.

While at the burn center, my doctors discovered that I had Ankylosing

Spondylitis, Lupus, SJ, Fibro and RSD. Both my rheumatologists and my docs at

the burn center feel that my AI diseases were in part brought out due to the

fire. Fires emit a lot of toxic chemicals.

When I am not working, (work is my greatest passion), I am spending time

off-duty with my partner Rod, who is also a medic. We have three horses, twelve

dogs, some rabbits and a half-feral coyote. We travel a lot, shoot for fun,

blog, live in the backcountry when we can, play video games and read... I love

a good book.

Well, I'll close for now. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you

out there in land, and I am looking forward to talking with other spineys

and discussing the special challenges we face.

--

Dodge

A skeptic is a person who, when he sees the handwriting on the wall,

claims it's a forgery.

Read my blog at:

http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hello, I found this site after searching another site for some relief.

> I have had every imaginable symptom from high blood pressure to fungus

> on my toes.

> I started taking Oil of Oregano 2 days ago and now I have vaginal

> itching.Is this normal.I also feel a strange sensation in my left

> lower abdomen like something is moving. What is that? Is this what

> they call die off?

> Thanks so much for the great site.

>

+++Hi Bre. Welcome to our group. Your are right that all of your

symptoms are candida-related. The strange sensation in your abdomen is

a die-off symptom, probably caused by gas, which candida produces when

it is killed off.

It isn't wise to start on an antifungal like oil of oregano until after

you've started on the diet and supplements, along with taking unrefined

coconut oil, which is antifungal. Please read the emails sent to you

when you joined, and if you didn't keep them read " How to Successfully

Overcome Candida " on my website, along with " Curing Candida, How to Get

Started " ; http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

Coconut oil is a very important part of the diet since it provides so

many healthy benefits, along with being antifungal.

So please read and get back to us. We are here to help and support you

so you too can get healthy.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Bee thanks so much for the information. Back in July a blood pressure

pill made me deathly ill and I ended up in the hospital. I decided

that day that I was going to take charge of my health. I researched

hours and hours of info. I learned that these drugs tear down your

immune system.

I started a low carb diet back in July and since then I have lost 50

yes 50 lbs!! I also started taking coenzyme 10, magnesium, zinc, b

complex and vitamin C.

You see I hate to admit this but I am an RN and I was brainwashed by

the big pharmaceuticals. I had always heard about this yeast but I had

doubts that it existed.

After doing much research I started putting two and two together. I

looked at all my symptoms and they all resembled a fungus. I had brown

toenails, skin rashes, severe constipation, digestion, gerd, headache,

etc, etc.

I now have the vaginal itching, toothache, sore throat,headache.Bee do

you think that I am detoxing too quick? I am also exercising now. I do

feel better even with all of those symptoms. I had a pleurisy type

pain that has gone away also. I will definitely donate to your site!

Thanks for such good info and you can bet I will be taking some new

info to my colleagues.

Bre

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee thanks so much for the information. Back in July a blood

pressure

> pill made me deathly ill and I ended up in the hospital. I decided

> that day that I was going to take charge of my health. I researched

> hours and hours of info. I learned that these drugs tear down your

> immune system.

+++That was a very important decision for you to make Bre. Good for

you!

> I started a low carb diet back in July and since then I have lost 50

> yes 50 lbs!! I also started taking coenzyme 10, magnesium, zinc, b

> complex and vitamin C.

+++Wow, losing 50 lbs. must have been wonderful for you.

> You see I hate to admit this but I am an RN and I was brainwashed by

> the big pharmaceuticals. I had always heard about this yeast but I

had doubts that it existed.

> After doing much research I started putting two and two together. I

> looked at all my symptoms and they all resembled a fungus. I had

brown toenails, skin rashes, severe constipation, digestion, gerd,

headache, etc, etc.

> I now have the vaginal itching, toothache, sore throat,headache.

Bee do you think that I am detoxing too quick? I am also exercising

now. I do feel better even with all of those symptoms. I had a

pleurisy type pain that has gone away also. I will definitely donate

to your site! Thanks for such good info and you can bet I will be

taking some new info to my colleagues.

+++You are so welcome for the good info. My sister is a hospice

nurse, and she waffles between medicine and natural treatments. It

can be a difficult dilemma for people working in the medical field,

so I commend you on seeing how important proper nutrients are.

+++Bre, if you can tolerate the symptoms I wouldn't worry about

them. If you can't, you can cut back on the amount of coconut oil,

and maybe butter (both are antifungal) so the die-off/detox symptoms

can be minimized. Also do what you can to assist your body in its

detoxing efforts by doing coffee enemas, having the Electrolyte

Drink, Epsom Salt baths, etc. My first coffee enema was amazing; I

felt so rejuvenated. I actually didn't know how frenzied my body was

until after that coffee enema.

+++That's good you are exercising, but don't overdo it so it depletes

energy your body needs to heal itself. Dry skin brushing works just

as well as any exercise.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

> I now have the vaginal itching, toothache, sore throat,headache.Bee do

> you think that I am detoxing too quick? I am also exercising now. I do

> feel better even with all of those symptoms. I had a pleurisy type

> pain that has gone away also. I will definitely donate to your site!

> Thanks for such good info and you can bet I will be taking some new

> info to my colleagues.

>

> Bre

Dear Bre:

I'm not Bee, but here are my two cents. When you change over to a low carb

diet, you can

expect to get some gum bleeding, toothaches and sore throats... it seems to go

hand in hand

with eliminating carbs. This should only last one or two months and then it

won't come back.

The headaches and the itching are from die-off and you can slow that down by

easing up on

the coconut oil and/or butter. Are you taking any other anti-fungals?

Marissa