migraines

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr., Ben-ph,

You always have good information in your posts, many

of which I archive, but today you have shared an

exceedingly brilliant insight on the human condition.

I thank you for it.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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Reply-To: oxyplus

To: oxyplus

Subject: Re: Migraines

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of any

emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would also lose

your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives you

passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more than the

education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of no one

that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all aspects

of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic, introversion,

extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof. Most

of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

Personal and Financial Freedom

www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

Watch your words; they become your actions.

Watch your actions; they become your habits.

Watch your habits; they become your character.

Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

Re: Migraines

>

>

>

> << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a simple

> psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have neck and

> shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger. >>

>

> I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I have

> processed

> anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from his

book

> Healing

> Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

>

> dorothy

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Thank you for the compliment. I am now totally embarrassed.

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Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

Watch your words; they become your actions.

Watch your actions; they become your habits.

Watch your habits; they become your character.

Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

Re: Migraines

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a simple

> > psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have neck

and

> > shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger. >>

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I have

> > processed

> > anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from his

> book

> > Healing

> > Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

> >

> > dorothy

>

>

>

>

>

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Total nonsense.

Period.

Ronen.

Re: Migraines

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a simple

> > psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have neck and

> > shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger. >>

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I have

> > processed

> > anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from his

book

> > Healing

> > Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

> >

> > dorothy

>

>

>

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

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Dr. Max Gerson developed his therapy to cure his migraine headaches. He has

since gone on to cure cancer and other degenerative diseases with his

therapies as well. These involve the use of freshly extracted juices and

coffee enemas. You can read about it more at www.gerson.org.

Patty

Re: Re:migraines

> Terri,

>

> Unfortunately, the niacin won't prevent everyone's migraines. I grew up

> on niacin in many different doses, and had lots of migraines also.

>

> But, anything that helps one may help others.

>

> jim

[Guest guest]

Dr. Max Gerson developed his therapy to cure his migraine headaches. He has

since gone on to cure cancer and other degenerative diseases with his

therapies as well. These involve the use of freshly extracted juices and

coffee enemas. You can read about it more at www.gerson.org.

Patty

Re: Re:migraines

> Terri,

>

> Unfortunately, the niacin won't prevent everyone's migraines. I grew up

> on niacin in many different doses, and had lots of migraines also.

>

> But, anything that helps one may help others.

>

> jim

[Guest guest]

Dr. Max Gerson developed his therapy to cure his migraine headaches. He has

since gone on to cure cancer and other degenerative diseases with his

therapies as well. These involve the use of freshly extracted juices and

coffee enemas. You can read about it more at www.gerson.org.

Patty

Re: Re:migraines

> Terri,

>

> Unfortunately, the niacin won't prevent everyone's migraines. I grew up

> on niacin in many different doses, and had lots of migraines also.

>

> But, anything that helps one may help others.

>

> jim

[Guest guest]

Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange a

demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

> Total nonsense.

> Period.

> Ronen.

>

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

Personal and Financial Freedom

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www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

Watch your words; they become your actions.

Watch your actions; they become your habits.

Watch your habits; they become your character.

Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

Re: Migraines

> Total nonsense.

> Period.

> Ronen.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as it is

explained here.

Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn that

their expectations in life are not always met.

example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe bypass

and go straight to anger !

Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

things.....frustration...

then one gets angry or just gives up...

and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is going,

whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are not

met

repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry at the

drop

of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a loose

canon ready

to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they still

can have a

passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

guarantees

and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you lemons, make

lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

emotional

and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

anger...cause it

doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it for what

it is...and

I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

disappointments...so

I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the situation.

Mike S. here with Passion!

thanks

PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

suppressing

anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

cancer....manifesting..

physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer, ....migrane...

backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all known and

unknown

mental / emotional diseases. Yes... I am opinionated (not a word?)....

but..also open to new ideas

to be opinionated about...thanks for this open forum ! Yes, professional

help is in order!

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:52:20 +0000 " Saul Pressman "

writes:

> Dear Dr., Ben-ph,

>

> You always have good information in your posts, many

> of which I archive, but today you have shared an

> exceedingly brilliant insight on the human condition.

> I thank you for it.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> Reply-To: oxyplus

> To: oxyplus

> Subject: Re: Migraines

> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

>

> No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of

> any

> emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

> unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would

> also lose

> your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives

> you

> passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more

> than the

> education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of

> no one

> that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all

> aspects

> of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic,

> introversion,

> extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof.

> Most

> of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

> emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

> www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

> www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

> www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

> www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Migraines

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 10/31/01 4:23:29 PM, parksl@...

> writes:

> >

> > << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a

> simple

> > psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have

> neck and

> > shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger.

> >>

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I

> have

> > processed

> > anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from

> his

> book

> > Healing

> > Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

> >

> > dorothy

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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> sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

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> sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as it is

explained here.

Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn that

their expectations in life are not always met.

example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe bypass

and go straight to anger !

Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

things.....frustration...

then one gets angry or just gives up...

and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is going,

whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are not

met

repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry at the

drop

of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a loose

canon ready

to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they still

can have a

passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

guarantees

and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you lemons, make

lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

emotional

and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

anger...cause it

doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it for what

it is...and

I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

disappointments...so

I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the situation.

Mike S. here with Passion!

thanks

PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

suppressing

anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

cancer....manifesting..

physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer, ....migrane...

backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all known and

unknown

mental / emotional diseases. Yes... I am opinionated (not a word?)....

but..also open to new ideas

to be opinionated about...thanks for this open forum ! Yes, professional

help is in order!

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:52:20 +0000 " Saul Pressman "

writes:

> Dear Dr., Ben-ph,

>

> You always have good information in your posts, many

> of which I archive, but today you have shared an

> exceedingly brilliant insight on the human condition.

> I thank you for it.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> Reply-To: oxyplus

> To: oxyplus

> Subject: Re: Migraines

> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

>

> No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of

> any

> emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

> unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would

> also lose

> your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives

> you

> passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more

> than the

> education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of

> no one

> that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all

> aspects

> of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic,

> introversion,

> extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof.

> Most

> of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

> emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

> www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

> www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

> www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

> www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Migraines

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 10/31/01 4:23:29 PM, parksl@...

> writes:

> >

> > << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a

> simple

> > psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have

> neck and

> > shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger.

> >>

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I

> have

> > processed

> > anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from

> his

> book

> > Healing

> > Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

> >

> > dorothy

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

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>

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> here are for information and research purposes only. We are people

> sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

> you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

> sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

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> yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as it is

explained here.

Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn that

their expectations in life are not always met.

example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe bypass

and go straight to anger !

Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

things.....frustration...

then one gets angry or just gives up...

and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is going,

whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are not

met

repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry at the

drop

of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a loose

canon ready

to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they still

can have a

passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

guarantees

and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you lemons, make

lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

emotional

and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

anger...cause it

doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it for what

it is...and

I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

disappointments...so

I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the situation.

Mike S. here with Passion!

thanks

PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

suppressing

anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

cancer....manifesting..

physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer, ....migrane...

backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all known and

unknown

mental / emotional diseases. Yes... I am opinionated (not a word?)....

but..also open to new ideas

to be opinionated about...thanks for this open forum ! Yes, professional

help is in order!

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:52:20 +0000 " Saul Pressman "

writes:

> Dear Dr., Ben-ph,

>

> You always have good information in your posts, many

> of which I archive, but today you have shared an

> exceedingly brilliant insight on the human condition.

> I thank you for it.

>

> Best of Health!

> Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> Reply-To: oxyplus

> To: oxyplus

> Subject: Re: Migraines

> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

>

> No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of

> any

> emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

> unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would

> also lose

> your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives

> you

> passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more

> than the

> education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of

> no one

> that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all

> aspects

> of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic,

> introversion,

> extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof.

> Most

> of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

> emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

> www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

> www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

> www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

> www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Migraines

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 10/31/01 4:23:29 PM, parksl@...

> writes:

> >

> > << I have cured numerous migraines, mostly permanently with a

> simple

> > psychological technique. I will tell you this much, if you have

> neck and

> > shoulder tension with it your problem is likely an ongoing anger.

> >>

> >

> > I understand what you are saying, but what kind of technique? I

> have

> > processed

> > anger for months, every day, used Walter Weston's technique (from

> his

> book

> > Healing

> > Yourself) etc., and the anger is still there.

> >

> > dorothy

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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>

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> and other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

> here are for information and research purposes only. We are people

> sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

> you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

> sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

> By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR

> yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a

> medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care

> provider.

>

> You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the

> following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! -

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[Guest guest]

Regardless the negative emotion under discussion, fear/anger is

involved. This is important because I believe only those who are

relatively free of fear/anger have a chance to understand the purpose of

life, or enjoy the understanding.

My inner rage, and bitterness, came from my father. I realized this just

months after I decided to purge them from my self. When he died, I

buried them with him. I have been extremely happy since then!!! So, I

agree with Ronen, in principle if not in tone, that one can eliminate

anger from their being.

Or, maybe it is just a semantic difference of expressing one's feelings?

It can also be said that the emotions are still there, but we just

choose not to give them expression. I frequently find that arguments are

mostly about misunderstanding the meanings of words. And, that we don't

have the same definitions for the words we all use, so misunderstandings

are a natural outcome!

Anyway, it is true that happiness is an attitude! All one has to do to

find happiness is to make a decision to do so! But, I do understand that

for each person undertaking this quest, that they may not be having as

much fun at the moment of discovery, as I am having now, further down

the life-line where experience hopefully becomes wisdom, and I can

chuckle! :):)

jim

ERCCoach@... wrote:

>

> This is interesting. A friend, therapist said I carried anger. I said NO.

> After many sessions together, he gave up and said, " Whose anger are you

> carrying anyway? " That was it! It was NOT MY anger but for someone else,

> who died. I continued their anger at someone very bad, who effected this

> peprsons life. Anger is tough when you don't know 'where' it comes from.

> This revelation for me was a real revelation to me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Regardless the negative emotion under discussion, fear/anger is

involved. This is important because I believe only those who are

relatively free of fear/anger have a chance to understand the purpose of

life, or enjoy the understanding.

My inner rage, and bitterness, came from my father. I realized this just

months after I decided to purge them from my self. When he died, I

buried them with him. I have been extremely happy since then!!! So, I

agree with Ronen, in principle if not in tone, that one can eliminate

anger from their being.

Or, maybe it is just a semantic difference of expressing one's feelings?

It can also be said that the emotions are still there, but we just

choose not to give them expression. I frequently find that arguments are

mostly about misunderstanding the meanings of words. And, that we don't

have the same definitions for the words we all use, so misunderstandings

are a natural outcome!

Anyway, it is true that happiness is an attitude! All one has to do to

find happiness is to make a decision to do so! But, I do understand that

for each person undertaking this quest, that they may not be having as

much fun at the moment of discovery, as I am having now, further down

the life-line where experience hopefully becomes wisdom, and I can

chuckle! :):)

jim

ERCCoach@... wrote:

>

> This is interesting. A friend, therapist said I carried anger. I said NO.

> After many sessions together, he gave up and said, " Whose anger are you

> carrying anyway? " That was it! It was NOT MY anger but for someone else,

> who died. I continued their anger at someone very bad, who effected this

> peprsons life. Anger is tough when you don't know 'where' it comes from.

> This revelation for me was a real revelation to me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Regardless the negative emotion under discussion, fear/anger is

involved. This is important because I believe only those who are

relatively free of fear/anger have a chance to understand the purpose of

life, or enjoy the understanding.

My inner rage, and bitterness, came from my father. I realized this just

months after I decided to purge them from my self. When he died, I

buried them with him. I have been extremely happy since then!!! So, I

agree with Ronen, in principle if not in tone, that one can eliminate

anger from their being.

Or, maybe it is just a semantic difference of expressing one's feelings?

It can also be said that the emotions are still there, but we just

choose not to give them expression. I frequently find that arguments are

mostly about misunderstanding the meanings of words. And, that we don't

have the same definitions for the words we all use, so misunderstandings

are a natural outcome!

Anyway, it is true that happiness is an attitude! All one has to do to

find happiness is to make a decision to do so! But, I do understand that

for each person undertaking this quest, that they may not be having as

much fun at the moment of discovery, as I am having now, further down

the life-line where experience hopefully becomes wisdom, and I can

chuckle! :):)

jim

ERCCoach@... wrote:

>

> This is interesting. A friend, therapist said I carried anger. I said NO.

> After many sessions together, he gave up and said, " Whose anger are you

> carrying anyway? " That was it! It was NOT MY anger but for someone else,

> who died. I continued their anger at someone very bad, who effected this

> peprsons life. Anger is tough when you don't know 'where' it comes from.

> This revelation for me was a real revelation to me.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

You bring up a good point: that stress is not an event, but our reaction

to the event. As when two people are in the same traffic jam.... one

wants to pull out a gun and shoot people, while the other puts on a CD

of Mozart! ;-) We ARE in control! Anyone who says different is

sleepwalking!

What we can't avoid is other people's anger. And, that is our

opportunity to practice our own anger control.... until the habit is no

longer there, and there is no anger to control.

jim

michael c slivinski wrote:

>

> Hello,

> With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as it is

> explained here.

> Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

>

> I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn that

> their expectations in life are not always met.

> example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe bypass

> and go straight to anger !

> Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

> things.....frustration...

> then one gets angry or just gives up...

> and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is going,

> whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are not

> met

> repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry at the

> drop

> of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a loose

> canon ready

> to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

> So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they still

> can have a

> passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

> guarantees

> and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you lemons, make

> lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

> emotional

> and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

> anger...cause it

> doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

> Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it for what

> it is...and

> I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

> disappointments...so

> I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the situation.

> Mike S. here with Passion!

> thanks

> PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

> suppressing

> anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

> cancer....manifesting..

> physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer, ....migrane...

> backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

> etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all known

--

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright

until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Mike,

You bring up a good point: that stress is not an event, but our reaction

to the event. As when two people are in the same traffic jam.... one

wants to pull out a gun and shoot people, while the other puts on a CD

of Mozart! ;-) We ARE in control! Anyone who says different is

sleepwalking!

What we can't avoid is other people's anger. And, that is our

opportunity to practice our own anger control.... until the habit is no

longer there, and there is no anger to control.

jim

michael c slivinski wrote:

>

> Hello,

> With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as it is

> explained here.

> Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

>

> I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn that

> their expectations in life are not always met.

> example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe bypass

> and go straight to anger !

> Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

> things.....frustration...

> then one gets angry or just gives up...

> and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is going,

> whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are not

> met

> repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry at the

> drop

> of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a loose

> canon ready

> to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

> So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they still

> can have a

> passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

> guarantees

> and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you lemons, make

> lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

> emotional

> and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

> anger...cause it

> doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

> Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it for what

> it is...and

> I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

> disappointments...so

> I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the situation.

> Mike S. here with Passion!

> thanks

> PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

> suppressing

> anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

> cancer....manifesting..

> physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer, ....migrane...

> backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

> etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all known

--

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright

until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci

jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Hello Jim, right on about other people anger....

and if I hear them put on a CD thats playing Heavy Metal or

some Angry / Violent Lyrics Rap music..... my option is to

distance myself from them... I mean... when have you ever

read about a riot at a classical concert... or at an opera.....

though I have heard some interesting stories about angry

chess players... guess it is wise to choose your enemy :-)

mike slivinski

ps I don't know about the moody blues / grateful dead???

I think they don't get angry cause they adjust their chemestry

with those funny crooked cigarettes :-)

sometimes I wonder (though I kid about it) if a glass of wine

or beer doesn't take the edge off of stressful situations...just

to buy time to face / address the issue...not suggesting bravery

out of a bottle... but...what I call the aspirin temporary cure to

aliviate the pain temporarily ...to see things later in a better mood

or light.

thanks mike s.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:12:53 -0500 jlambert@... writes:

> Mike,

>

> You bring up a good point: that stress is not an event, but our

> reaction

> to the event. As when two people are in the same traffic jam.... one

> wants to pull out a gun and shoot people, while the other puts on a

> CD

> of Mozart! ;-) We ARE in control! Anyone who says different is

> sleepwalking!

>

> What we can't avoid is other people's anger. And, that is our

> opportunity to practice our own anger control.... until the habit is

> no

> longer there, and there is no anger to control.

>

> jim

>

> michael c slivinski wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> > With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as

> it is

> > explained here.

> > Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

> >

> > I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn

> that

> > their expectations in life are not always met.

> > example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe

> bypass

> > and go straight to anger !

> > Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

> > things.....frustration...

> > then one gets angry or just gives up...

> > and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is

> going,

> > whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are

> not

> > met

> > repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry

> at the

> > drop

> > of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a

> loose

> > canon ready

> > to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

> > So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they

> still

> > can have a

> > passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

> > guarantees

> > and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you

> lemons, make

> > lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

> > emotional

> > and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

> > anger...cause it

> > doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

> > Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it

> for what

> > it is...and

> > I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

> > disappointments...so

> > I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the

> situation.

> > Mike S. here with Passion!

> > thanks

> > PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

> > suppressing

> > anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

> > cancer....manifesting..

> > physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer,

> ....migrane...

> > backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

> > etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all

> known

> --

>

> Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright

> until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci

>

> jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> http://www.entrance.to/poetry

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

> and other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

> here are for information and research purposes only. We are people

> sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

> you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

> sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

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[Guest guest]

Hello Jim, right on about other people anger....

and if I hear them put on a CD thats playing Heavy Metal or

some Angry / Violent Lyrics Rap music..... my option is to

distance myself from them... I mean... when have you ever

read about a riot at a classical concert... or at an opera.....

though I have heard some interesting stories about angry

chess players... guess it is wise to choose your enemy :-)

mike slivinski

ps I don't know about the moody blues / grateful dead???

I think they don't get angry cause they adjust their chemestry

with those funny crooked cigarettes :-)

sometimes I wonder (though I kid about it) if a glass of wine

or beer doesn't take the edge off of stressful situations...just

to buy time to face / address the issue...not suggesting bravery

out of a bottle... but...what I call the aspirin temporary cure to

aliviate the pain temporarily ...to see things later in a better mood

or light.

thanks mike s.

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 22:12:53 -0500 jlambert@... writes:

> Mike,

>

> You bring up a good point: that stress is not an event, but our

> reaction

> to the event. As when two people are in the same traffic jam.... one

> wants to pull out a gun and shoot people, while the other puts on a

> CD

> of Mozart! ;-) We ARE in control! Anyone who says different is

> sleepwalking!

>

> What we can't avoid is other people's anger. And, that is our

> opportunity to practice our own anger control.... until the habit is

> no

> longer there, and there is no anger to control.

>

> jim

>

> michael c slivinski wrote:

> >

> > Hello,

> > With all due respect.... I don't agree, at least I dont agree as

> it is

> > explained here.

> > Let me explain....my thoughts / feelings on anger:

> >

> > I find anger is a emotion that comes about if one doesn't learn

> that

> > their expectations in life are not always met.

> > example....betrayal....hurt....sad... and then anger...maybe

> bypass

> > and go straight to anger !

> > Repeated frustrations in trying to accomplish some

> > things.....frustration...

> > then one gets angry or just gives up...

> > and what happens overtime when ones expectations on how life is

> going,

> > whether work, sports, inventing, romance.... when expectations are

> not

> > met

> > repeatedly.... then one can build up a predisposition to be angry

> at the

> > drop

> > of a hat.. then we say... this person has a temper... they are a

> loose

> > canon ready

> > to go off.....maybe some chemistry is involved here...serotonin...

> > So if a child is raised or an adult learns coping skills... they

> still

> > can have a

> > passion or passion about life...but...teach them that there are no

> > guarantees

> > and to move on.... as the saying goes " when life gives you

> lemons, make

> > lemonade " then I shall show you a person whose health... mental,

> > emotional

> > and spiritual... are in balance...no need to suppress or transform

> > anger...cause it

> > doesn't get a chance to raise it's ugly head.

> > Ohhh.. I do get angry...frustrated...but...quickly recognize it

> for what

> > it is...and

> > I am the only one who can do something about reaction to

> > disappointments...so

> > I am quick to cool and be more reasonable / rational about the

> situation.

> > Mike S. here with Passion!

> > thanks

> > PS AFTERTHOUGHT.... a suppressed anger incident...or repeatedly

> > suppressing

> > anger...is over time..able to eat away at your psyche like a

> > cancer....manifesting..

> > physiologically / psychologicaly as a cancer, ulcer,

> ....migrane...

> > backpain, cfids, fibromyalgia

> > etc... and then of course mental ... emotional breakdowns, all

> known

> --

>

> Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people seem bright

> until you hear them speak. --Lou Rubinacci

>

> jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience

> http://www.entrance.to/poetry

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

> and other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

> here are for information and research purposes only. We are people

> sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here,

> you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common

> sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions.

> By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR

> yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a

> medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care

> provider.

>

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[Guest guest]

Getting angry does not mean you harbor anger.

And, IMHO, every sentence that has the expression " you cannot... " deduct

from the healing effort.

In my experience, people set free their anger, as well as fear, and many

other primal emotions, and be very much (if not totally) free from them.

To cure migraines is the easy part. To heal the root cause of the thing is

more interesting.

And - of course you can piss me off. Easy - no challenge in that.

Ronen.

Re: Migraines

> Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange

a

> demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

> saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

>

> PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

Getting angry does not mean you harbor anger.

And, IMHO, every sentence that has the expression " you cannot... " deduct

from the healing effort.

In my experience, people set free their anger, as well as fear, and many

other primal emotions, and be very much (if not totally) free from them.

To cure migraines is the easy part. To heal the root cause of the thing is

more interesting.

And - of course you can piss me off. Easy - no challenge in that.

Ronen.

Re: Migraines

> Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange

a

> demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

> saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

>

> PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

Getting angry does not mean you harbor anger.

And, IMHO, every sentence that has the expression " you cannot... " deduct

from the healing effort.

In my experience, people set free their anger, as well as fear, and many

other primal emotions, and be very much (if not totally) free from them.

To cure migraines is the easy part. To heal the root cause of the thing is

more interesting.

And - of course you can piss me off. Easy - no challenge in that.

Ronen.

Re: Migraines

> Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange

a

> demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

> saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

>

> PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. BJ,

I agree with some of what you say here, but would like to add that it seems

to me that to have passion based on capacity to love is far more desirable

than passion with anger as its origin. Anger is self-centered, while love is

others-centered. The focus is completely opposite.

Dave

-------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

Subject: Re: Migraines

No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of any

emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would also lose

your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives you

passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more than the

education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of no one

that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all aspects

of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic, introversion,

extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof. Most

of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. BJ,

I agree with some of what you say here, but would like to add that it seems

to me that to have passion based on capacity to love is far more desirable

than passion with anger as its origin. Anger is self-centered, while love is

others-centered. The focus is completely opposite.

Dave

-------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

Subject: Re: Migraines

No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of any

emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would also lose

your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives you

passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more than the

education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of no one

that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all aspects

of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic, introversion,

extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof. Most

of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr. BJ,

I agree with some of what you say here, but would like to add that it seems

to me that to have passion based on capacity to love is far more desirable

than passion with anger as its origin. Anger is self-centered, while love is

others-centered. The focus is completely opposite.

Dave

-------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:13:16 -0600

Subject: Re: Migraines

No one ever gets rid of anger. I repeat, you can never get rid of any

emotion, you can only change the way you relate to it. Anger is the

unconscious expression of passion. To get rid of anger you would also lose

your passion. My suggestion would be to concentrate on what gives you

passion and recognize that the past anger issues were nothing more than the

education and practice of the expression of your passion. I know of no one

that was born into an enlightened family that helped to develop all aspects

of our personality i.e. auditory, visual, kinesthetic, introversion,

extroversion, right brain and left brain or any combination thereof. Most

of us experience our lessons as we get kicked, battered, beaten,

emotionalized, or traumatized into our growth.

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

[Guest guest]

All of it. I've removed anger for 15 years in hundreds of people.

" Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote:

> Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange a

> demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

> saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

>

> PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

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> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Migraines

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

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care provider.

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[Guest guest]

All of it. I've removed anger for 15 years in hundreds of people.

" Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote:

> Ronen, when you get rid of your anger please tell me that I might arrange a

> demonstration that would for sure PISS YOU OFF. I, by the way, am NOT

> saying that you cannot stop migraines, that may be true.

>

> PS. For clarification, which part is nonsense?

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

> www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

> www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

> www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

> www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Migraines

>

> > Total nonsense.

> > Period.

> > Ronen.

> >

>

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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