migraines

[Guest guest]

Have you tried hand warming?

Foxx

migraines

I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in

with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were

originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As

a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she

is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I

am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of

pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use

the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying

to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have

been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct

freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If

there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would

greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie

[Guest guest]

this is what I had learned about 12 years ago but I guess I was more interested in neurofeedback for migraines or is biofeedback the answer that i am looking for?Foxx <foxx@...> wrote:

It's an old and often successful (was for me) method of reducing or eliminating migraines. People are trained to increase the temperature in their hands and feet. You can get inexpensive devices that monitor hand temperature (see futurehealth.org) or you can just imagine your hands and feet in buckets of hot water and the blood pounding in them.

Foxx

-----Original Message-----From: Sharrie -Hanley [mailto:drsharrie@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:34 AM Subject: RE: migraines

Please explain "hand warming"Foxx <foxx@...> wrote: Have you tried hand warming?Foxx-----Original Message-----From: drsharrie [mailto:drsharrie@...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: migrainesI am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have

been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie

[Guest guest]

this is what I had learned about 12 years ago but I guess I was more interested in neurofeedback for migraines or is biofeedback the answer that i am looking for?Foxx <foxx@...> wrote:

It's an old and often successful (was for me) method of reducing or eliminating migraines. People are trained to increase the temperature in their hands and feet. You can get inexpensive devices that monitor hand temperature (see futurehealth.org) or you can just imagine your hands and feet in buckets of hot water and the blood pounding in them.

Foxx

-----Original Message-----From: Sharrie -Hanley [mailto:drsharrie@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:34 AM Subject: RE: migraines

Please explain "hand warming"Foxx <foxx@...> wrote: Have you tried hand warming?Foxx-----Original Message-----From: drsharrie [mailto:drsharrie@...] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: migrainesI am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have

been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie

[Guest guest]

There are neurofeedback approaches to migraines, if the simpler, cheaper ones don't work. Jeff Carmen's HEG system being one of them (we sell the pendant version). I'll let others more knowledgable than I say more about them.

Foxx

-----Original Message-----From: Sharrie -Hanley [mailto:drsharrie@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: RE: migraines

this is what I had learned about 12 years ago but I guess I was more interested in neurofeedback for migraines or is biofeedback the answer that i am looking for?Foxx <foxx@...> wrote:

It's an old and often successful (was for me) method of reducing or eliminating migraines. People are trained to increase the temperature in their hands and feet. You can get inexpensive devices that monitor hand temperature (see futurehealth.org) or you can just imagine your hands and feet in buckets of hot water and the blood pounding in them.

Foxx

[Guest guest]

Sharrrie,

With your Brainmaster you can do the TLC Assess (free download from

http://www.brain-trainer.com/tlc_assessment/). You can do the assessment in

2.0SE or BioExplorer, whichever package you are using. With that you should be

able to start getting an idea of what's going on and train it. You could even

do an assessment on yourself (take a shot at that type-A stuff...).

T3/T4 is a difficult protocol for many trainers to make work, but the chances

are you will find some trainable issues in the temporal lobes if you look.

Don't forget to download the instructions for Brainmaster 2.0 when you get the

assessment.

Pete

>

> From: " drsharrie " <drsharrie@...>

> Date: 2005/02/07 Mon PM 09:43:20 EST

>

> Subject: migraines

>

> I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in

with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were

originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As

a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she

is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I

am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of

pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use

the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying

to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have

been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct

freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If

there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would

greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie

Van Deusen

http://www.brain-trainer.com

16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157

305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595

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Sharrie,

Have you tried inhibiting 8-11 in doing your T3-T4 protocol with your migraine patient? Sue suggests that to try when the other inhibits are not working (I just got back from Futrue Health and learned that little tidbit). Plus, that is what I found worked for my migraines.

Maureen

> > From: "drsharrie" <drsharrie@...>> Date: 2005/02/07 Mon PM 09:43:20 EST> > Subject: migraines> > I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie Van Deusenhttp://www.brain-trainer.com16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595

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Sharrie:

I'm not sure what you mean specifically when you reference Sue Othmer's protocol; however, for migraines a colleague recommended that I try T3/T4/G Alpha Down, SMR Up. I have found this to be really helpful.

Betsy

migraines> > I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie Van Deusenhttp://www.brain-trainer.com16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify: Do you mean T3 active,

with T4 reference and a ground?

Thanks, Bill Nash

migraines

>

> I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in

with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were

originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As

a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she

is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I

am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of

pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use

the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying

to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have

been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct

freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If

there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would

greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie

Van Deusen

http://www.brain-trainer.com

16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157

305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595

[Guest guest]

,

My daughter had severe migraines for years until received neurofeedback training at T3/T4 inhibiting 15-38hz...she's not had an episode in over 4 years! Also helped her Bruxism and Tinnitis....

R/

Agbayani__________________________________________________

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Bill:

T3 and T4 are both active sites, referenced to each other. The third lead is the ground.

Hope that helps.

Betsy

migraines> > I am new to this so please be patient. I have a client coming in with severe hormonally related migraines. The migraines were originally for the week prior to menses as well as during menses. As a Naturopath I educated her in specific homeopathic remedies and she is now down to 1 to 3 days of migraine pain but not as severe. As I am a type A personality I would like to see her completely out of pain. Last month I went to my first training of Neurofeedback. I use the Brainmaster 2.0SE and am very comfortable with it. I am trying to self teach myself the MiniQ so I can do brainmapping/Q's. I have been using Sue Othmer's Protocol T3-T4 until I find the correct freq. but don't feel as satisfied with it as I feel I should be. If there is anyone out there that can direct me to information I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Sharrie Van Deusenhttp://www.brain-trainer.com16246 SW 92nd Ave, Miami, FL 33157305/251-0337 or (cellular) 305/321-1595

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What is her history. How old is she? Does she have a history of

migraines, with or without aura. Is she on Birth control, what are her

triggers?

Michele Biederman

migraines

I had a patient call and inquire about a B12/migraine connection

I know little about her (ie ?PCOS), she is about a year post GBP and

apparently just started on B12 (oral) supps. She is c/o nausea and

migraines. I anticipate that the migraines are (atleast in part)

impacting the nausea. Does anyone have any insight?

Thanks in advance, Sue Manchester

[Guest guest]

-Hi Asli,

Thankyou so much for your post with respect to rotation diets and

migraines. Pardon the pun, but you have given me much food for

thought!!Mine started at puberty,and have sometimes left me for up to

3 years but always come back. Like you I think it is down to leaky

gut and food intolerances, but I never thought of eating suspect

foods only infrequently. I shall be trying this out!

I am now post-menopausal,and my migraines are different than before,

more of a nagging, chronic type. They used to be like the ones you

describe, and related to the time of the month.I do not usually get

bad nausea now, but something I have found that helps to dissipate

the pain is to sweat for a few minutes. I discoverd this by accident,

but now if i want to curl up and die in bed,if i can make myself do

something for 5-10 mins to get a brief sweat up, I feel much better.

Mowing the lawn or vacuuming works best!!

Possibly my recent migraines have been brought on by bringing some of

my long buried toxins out of hiding, and into my circulation before

they leave the body.

I know that my migraines are all part of the candida problem, and

hope that they will eventually die along with the candida!

Thanks again,

Kathy.

-- In candidiasis , Asli Kumcu <magnecho@y...> wrote:

> My experience with migraines (they started when I was really young)

has

> been that they are related to food intolerances (NOT " true "

allergies).

> That is to say, if I eat wheat every day for one week, then the 7th

day

> I get a horrible migraine, with light/noise/touch sensitivity, I

feel

> like vomiting, and it is soooo painful; several times I have been

ready

> to go to the hospital. (Being tired, stressed, sleep-deprived, and

> being on my period all make me more likely to get a migraine as

well,

> if I have been eating poorly).

>

> But if I eat wheat one day, skip 5 or 6 days, and eat it again on

the

> 7th day, I am OK. This is called a rotation diet, and I have had

to do

> this with many foods (potato & derivatives, chocolate, sugar, all

> partially-hydrogentated oils, soya, pepper, chicory, tomato, pork,

> eggplant, peach, corn & derivatives, salmon, cashews, peanuts, oat,

> yeast, whole wheat & derivatives - white flour was OK, etc). If I

> rotate foods for 5 days, then I don't get migraines. Now I get a

> really serious migraine about once every 6 months (if a new

intolerance

> develops), whereas before I used to get one weekly.

>

> If I eat almost any food more than several times a week, I develop

an

> allergy to it -- I used to get migraines from wheat 15 years ago,

now I

> can have it every day, but now if I eat pork a lot I get

headaches!

> That is why you must do the rotation diet until the underlying

cause is

> disvered.

>

> The root cause is not allergy, it is most likely leaky gut, or

> something related -- since it takes the intestinal lining 3 or 4

days

> to renew itself, I believe that the inflammation that results from

the

> 1st day of ingestion gets relieved if you don't eat it again until

the

> cells are renewed. (This is my own theory). And funny enough,

when I

> get the migraines, if I make myself throw up, I feel SOOO MUCH

BETTER!

> (Enemas and colonics will help as well, as someone else has pointed

> out). And don't worry, I have noticed that most foods i'm allergic

to

> are heavy aflotoxin and other fungus carriers (esp grains and

nuts) --

> therefore the candida connection is probably related to this whole

> migraine business.

>

> I use muscle testing (kinesiology) to test whether a particular food

> will give me a migraine : hold the food in your left hand, make a

> circle with your right forefinger and thumb, and have a friend

attempt

> to pull apart the two fingers. If you are intolerant or allergic,

you

> will not be able to keep your fingers together at all.

>

> An elimination diet can also help determine food allergies and

> intolerances.

>

> Watch out for hidden allergens!! e.g. boullion can contain potato,

> corn, wheat in the form of " food starch " , " starch " ,

and " fillers " ,

> among other things. Same goes with milk, nuts, eggs -- though I

must

> say food labelling is much more advanced than it was 15 years ago

when

> I started the whole alternative healing business. Even my headache

> medicine was making me sick from the food starch, until I switched

to

> Excederin (the drug of the gods!! nothing else helps my headaches).

>

> Sorry again for the long post. I hope this can be of some help to my

> fellow migraine sufferers.

>

> Regards

> Asli

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Glad to know I could be of help!

One last bit of advice I'd like to share (i think i said it in my other

email) , is that enemas will probably help quite a bit to get rid of

those toxins. I notice that my migraines get less severe if I can

throw up what i've just eaten, or if I can cleanse my bowels

immediately. Colon hydrotherapy would be better, but you can do enemas

at home. This seems to agree with what you say about sweating it

out...

As far as the low grade headaches, my food intolerance (since they're

not exactly allergies) start out like that. First muscle / joint pain,

then low grade headaches, then slight depression, then migraines and

heavy depression. So probably the slight headaches are either

something you're eating that is starting to become an intolerance, or

toxins that haven't been cleaned out completely (also quite likely, as

you indicate).

Daily exercise is a great way to cleanse out your system!

Regards,

Asli

--- Kathy <xanadu_18@...> wrote:

<snip>

> bad nausea now, but something I have found that helps to dissipate

> the pain is to sweat for a few minutes. I discoverd this by accident,

> but now if i want to curl up and die in bed,if i can make myself do

> something for 5-10 mins to get a brief sweat up, I feel much better.

> Mowing the lawn or vacuuming works best!!

> Possibly my recent migraines have been brought on by bringing some of

> my long buried toxins out of hiding, and into my circulation before

> they leave the body.

> I know that my migraines are all part of the candida problem, and

> hope that they will eventually die along with the candida!

>

> Thanks again,

> Kathy.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Asli,

Thanks again. I am finding yiour posts very useful while i am still

plagued by horrific migraines, and trying my latest theory or

elimination!

What has been happening over the last 2or 3 weeks, is that I have

this low grade one-sided headache all thr time to some extent and is

related in part to the pain in my back and sholder that the Doctors

call fibromyalgia. qhat causes what is unclear but I have read of

others on fibro sites.other than the slight headache I have felt

better and stronger than for at least 3years,but only for 1-3 days.

Then the stiffness increases and my back and neck become rigid and we

have the full works for up to 2 days. I do not like to take meds, but

have to. I am currently taking Imigran(sumatriptan)and only getting a

partial response. Last year the same med, shifted it completely for

the day. I have been back to my doc last week,he is very good,

although he hasnt a clue about candida, he listens, and is pro-

natural treatments. He confrmed my experience that after 2 or 3 days

consecutively on IMigran, th migraine seems to lift,as other patients

have found this. there is a type of cumulative effect.

I have been thinking that my good days were down to my latest

elimination of suspect food, but that is only effective for a day or

two. It may be down to the meds. that is my latest theory,as I am at

my wits end trying to get rid of them!I know you empathise!!

I think they are probably due to die-off and toxins, and are possibly

a manifestation of the re-cycling of symptoms as part of the healing

process. Many times in the last few months I have just had to adopt

the slogan'this too shall pass' for a few days, and it often does. I

find that too much analysis just ties me in knots!! I will no doubt

still continue to do it,nonetheless!

As regards exercise, I think it is partly my incresaed level of

activity that is causing some of the detox. 2 years ago I was almost

completely housebound and unable even to do housework. I am now much

more active on my good days,almost 'normal' for a few hours, and this

in itself is like an intense workout to a fitter person.i guess I

have yeast and toxins hidden in every nook and cranny of my body. I

just wish they would leave my body without causing a migraine!!!

Thanks again,

love and God bless,

Kathy.

> As far as the low grade headaches, my food intolerance (since

they're

> not exactly allergies) start out like that. First muscle / joint

pain,

> then low grade headaches, then slight depression, then migraines and

> heavy depression. So probably the slight headaches are either

> something you're eating that is starting to become an intolerance,

or

> toxins that haven't been cleaned out completely (also quite likely,

as

> you indicate).

>

> Daily exercise is a great way to cleanse out your system!

>

> Regards,

> Asli

>

> --- Kathy <xanadu_18@b...> wrote:

> <snip>

> > bad nausea now, but something I have found that helps to

dissipate

> > the pain is to sweat for a few minutes. I discoverd this by

accident,

> > but now if i want to curl up and die in bed,if i can make myself

do

> > something for 5-10 mins to get a brief sweat up, I feel much

better.

> > Mowing the lawn or vacuuming works best!!

> > Possibly my recent migraines have been brought on by bringing

some of

> > my long buried toxins out of hiding, and into my circulation

before

> > they leave the body.

> > I know that my migraines are all part of the candida problem, and

> > hope that they will eventually die along with the candida!

> >

> > Thanks again,

> > Kathy.

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/16/2005 7:57:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

but my oldest daughter has excruciating migranes

HELLO I also had severe 3 day long migraines as a teen with lyme.... had to

be in a silent and blackened room.... got less as I got older, occasional

ones but dont last 3 days usually require a few hours sleep... I did not ever

find a cure for them and was never given meds... but they did lessen with

age... best to u... c

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn

Im sure your treatment is working but have you thought about looking into

what is causing the migraines in the first place and reversing these factors ie

overload of heavy metals & pathogens?

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

There is actually a lot of research out now supporting the use of Topamax

(another anticonvulsant), which I am taking. When I first started it, it really

decreased both the number of migraines and headaches and the frequency. But I

think my dose is too low. My body is really weird, it reacts really sensitively

to a medication at first, but then quickly becomes tolerant. Anyway, I need to

increase my dose, but I don't have an apt to see my neuro until the 31st. (The

problem with seeing the guy who is really good is that you have to wait a really

long time to see him!) I called to ask them to increase, but the NP wouldn't do

it because of the breastfeeding. (I know, I know, everyone keeps telling me to

just wean him, but I am too softhearted. I can't stand to make my son sad).

As far as them being sinus, I wish (because then I would have other treatment

options). No, mine are clearly hormonal. I get at least one with every period

and one with every ovulation. I, of course, have other triggers, but those are

the most consistent and unchangable. My migraines are classic, too. I get an

aura about 20 min before they hit... nausea, sensitivity to light, sound,

SMELLS, and of course, pain! They have gotten better with the Topamax, though.

At least now, they usually only last 1-2 days.

I really can't complain, though. Life could certainly be worse. I just

mentioned to beg for forgiveness if I say (or type :~)) something that doesn't

make sense or is offensive.

Thanks for the suggestion of Depakote, though. I do know there are studies out

now supporting the use of neurontin to treat fibro. Since you ahd such a good

response to Depakote, I wonder if this would be a good drug for you to try. (It

might even help with sleeping).

Thanks,

Dawn

I suppose I shouldn't change the subject, here, but have you tried > Depakote

for migraine relief? I know that it bears a lot of > criticism, but I remember

trying it as a last resort in my search for > migraine relief. > > What

surprised me most about using the Depakote -- and I used it for > less than a

month -- was that I suddenly felt like my brains were > ironed out better and I

could think more clearly. And **that** made > me wonder if all this physical

stuff I had that perturbed me wasn't > related somehow to brain seizures. I

never got any resolution on > this, and then the migraines ended with such

frequency and I never > pursued it.> > The best I can suggest right now for

migraine relief is to hope that > some of the pain is sinus related and try some

OTC sinus medication. > Good luck with this -- let me know how you're doing. I

sure know what > you're going through. <wan smile>> >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Dawn. I really liked feeling better in my upstairs when I

took the Depakote...but I just don't like it or Neurontin, the more

and more I read about both of them. For every good report I heard

when Neurontin first came out, it seems like there is at least one,

now, to match it in serious consequences. I sure do miss that good

feeling of having my brain " ironed out, " though, with Depakote.

As far as taking Neurontin or Depakote or anything else is concerned,

though, I do know that there are wonderful things out now that do

help many people...it's just that I'm sort of cranky and skeptical

and I really don't trust much that the pharmaceutical industry has

pumped out since about 1980...and much before that requires close

scrutiny too. That's one reason I really appreciate mjh and other

people like her on this list. " Au naturel " just has to be better and

safer if used with some sense.

When I had migraines all the time, the doctor described them as being

familial, simply because my father and my aunt both had them -- but

I'm sure they were probably also hormonal. I never got them

pinpointed well enough in my cycle, though, because they were so

frequent and unpredictable. I had everything you listed but not

usually. Usually it was only the pain, although the aura was quite

frequent. Almost never, the nausea or the smells problem. Migraines

are one thing I definitely do not miss one bit since getting a tad

older.

>

> Hi ,

>

> There is actually a lot of research out now supporting the use of

Topamax (another anticonvulsant), which I am taking. When I first

started it, it really decreased both the number of migraines and

headaches and the frequency. But I think my dose is too low. My

body is really weird, it reacts really sensitively to a medication at

first, but then quickly becomes tolerant. Anyway, I need to increase

my dose, but I don't have an apt to see my neuro until the 31st.

(The problem with seeing the guy who is really good is that you have

to wait a really long time to see him!) I called to ask them to

increase, but the NP wouldn't do it because of the breastfeeding. (I

know, I know, everyone keeps telling me to just wean him, but I am

too softhearted. I can't stand to make my son sad).

>

> As far as them being sinus, I wish (because then I would have other

treatment options). No, mine are clearly hormonal. I get at least

one with every period and one with every ovulation. I, of course,

have other triggers, but those are the most consistent and

unchangable. My migraines are classic, too. I get an aura about 20

min before they hit... nausea, sensitivity to light, sound, SMELLS,

and of course, pain! They have gotten better with the Topamax,

though. At least now, they usually only last 1-2 days.

>

> I really can't complain, though. Life could certainly be worse. I

just mentioned to beg for forgiveness if I say (or type :~))

something that doesn't make sense or is offensive.

>

> Thanks for the suggestion of Depakote, though. I do know there are

studies out now supporting the use of neurontin to treat fibro.

Since you ahd such a good response to Depakote, I wonder if this

would be a good drug for you to try. (It might even help with

sleeping).

>

> Thanks,

> Dawn

>

[Guest guest]

I had them for many many years. They are the worst. I wanted to die. Many

women have them for hormonal reasons and they cannot be corrected. Itake

topomax,4 little white pills a day. I used to take depakote. Depakote works much

better. Now that I'm done with menopause I can take topomax, but cannot drink

more than 1 glass of wine occasionally or they will return.

Determining the cause will not help. I made the rounds. Even had

sinus surgery. Don't do it. IThe tissue grows back. It was the most painful

surgery I ever had.

If anyone chooses to take depakote take selenium (yeast free)

with it. or your hair will turn to straw.

Topamax and depakote have the added side eeffect of mellowing

you out.

Carol in LI, NY

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn

The best advice i would given anyone at the moment is to read Rich thesis on

Glutathione depletion and perhaps buy the books the rich recommends at the

moment.

Raising Glutathione for me has been the key in my recovery - and now I want

to look at " different pathways of rasing Glutathione "

Regards

CS

[Guest guest]

In my experience, migraines are always multi-factorially caused and triggered.

On the other

hand, there is no reason anyone should suffer with another one. This is

something that is just

about 100% curable. Someone like Dr. Hulin has facilitated the cure for

hundreds of

sufferers. In addition, he's likely to help you and your husband discover the

" meaning " of the

pain or it's purpose at this time in his life. There are no accidents and pain

is always telling

you something. If you don't capture that, you are doomed to repeat the illness

pattern.

With regard to food, there are certainly different trigger foods, different food

allergies and

sensitivities that are almost always implicated with migraines. Additionally

there are BAD

foods and categories of foods that no one should eat and they are quite often

part of the

problem. In kind, there are many HEALING foods that help everyone and should be

eaten

daily.

My advice: don't piddle around with trial-and-error experimentation and/or

random advice

from well-intentioned friends who are shooting from the hip. Instead, start at

the top with

one of our recommended holistic healers and never lose another day of the gift

of life to

unnecessary pain.

Will Winter

[Guest guest]

Kae Tattersall wrote:

> Just a thought -- my friend at work had migraines since childhood

Mine left after I had the mercury removed from my teeth.

There are lots of causes - it's daunting and individual. Each person's

system has differnt sensitivity - kind of like allergies where each

person reacts to a different allergen.

I'd also go along with your anti-gluten approach.

I use a mix of dark rye flour 50/50 with rice bran, for baking instead

of " flour " , and avoid all wheat and corn - not just the gluten.

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

I gave up all gluten, wheat and corn products a month ago when I started the

diet. I do think I was reacting to a vitamin that was colored bright yellow. I

can't have anything with red dye in it and didn't think a thing about this

ridiculously brightly colored vitamin until the other day. I stopped taking it

and lo and behold I haven't had a migraine since!!

Diane

Re: migraines

Kae Tattersall wrote:

> Just a thought -- my friend at work had migraines since childhood

Mine left after I had the mercury removed from my teeth.

There are lots of causes - it's daunting and individual. Each person's

system has differnt sensitivity - kind of like allergies where each

person reacts to a different allergen.

I'd also go along with your anti-gluten approach.

I use a mix of dark rye flour 50/50 with rice bran, for baking instead

of " flour " , and avoid all wheat and corn - not just the gluten.

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

diane.guenzij wrote

<<< I gave up all gluten, wheat and corn products a month ago when I

started the diet. I do think I was reacting to a vitamin that was

colored bright yellow.>>

Vit B2 has a " ridiculously " bright yellow colour, that's just how it is,

it is not dye.

More likely it was a tablet and not a capsule you used and it was a whey

base or some such " tablet base " that you reacted to?

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

The vitamin is a pre-natal multi vitamin tablet. It was left over from my

daughter's pregnancy and I hated to see them go to waste as they were so

expensive so I thought why not use them up.

Can you recommend a brand of vitamin that will not have whey in it? I am not

able to do a lot of car traveling as I don't drive so if you can refer me to an

internet store that would be great.

Diane

Re: migraines

diane.guenzij wrote

<<< I gave up all gluten, wheat and corn products a month ago when I

started the diet. I do think I was reacting to a vitamin that was

colored bright yellow.>>

Vit B2 has a " ridiculously " bright yellow colour, that's just how it is,

it is not dye.

More likely it was a tablet and not a capsule you used and it was a whey

base or some such " tablet base " that you reacted to?

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "