Guest guest Posted April 26, 2000 Report Share Posted April 26, 2000 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:40:35 -0400 From: " Ken and " <kglg@...> Subject: RA neck << problem caused by years of RA; there is no current inflammation. C1 has subluxed somewhat on C2 with an odontoid interval of 8 mm. From what I have read, anything over 3 mm is abnormal and my doctor says at 11-12 mm they recommend surgery for fusion. He believes his examination of my neck made >> , Try to find a DO/CHIRO (Osteopath that practices Chiropractic) who can direct you to someone who specializes in the C-1 O-N-L-Y. There are about 1/2 dozen of these fellows in CA/NV and that is all they do -- work the C-1. " IF " it can save you from getting fused it is well worth the effort. Their charges usually run around $50 so it's not very expensive -- the obvious problem is the bone on bone but these C-1 specialists save thousands of people every year from fusion surgery. Whether or not there is an alternative to fusion, such as insertion of a customized computer cut Delrin® plate to replace the cartilege or some such is also worth exploring. Although it is a surgical procedure it would still be better than fusion if available. HTH Regards, Geoff Crenshaw, ACC ----------------------- Captain Cook's Cruise Center ** Usual Disclaimers ** ----------------------- Why do I have hope? Because I am under the blood of the Passover Lamb. EXO 12:7-3 / MAR 14:24 / REV 12:11 ICQ 60333388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 In a message dated 11/14/00 6:36:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, egroups writes: << When will they return to normal looking fingers? Anyone else out there with PA in fingers and swelling? Your experiences will help me with mine. Thanks >> If it goes the way mine has, your finger swelling will come and go. I find the more I use my hands at work, on the computer, etc., the more painful they get. I have a couple of fingers that are very swollen & painful. I have had an injection in one finger when it was really bad, and my right ankle has been injected twice. After four months of Methotrexate, I am finally feeling like there is progress - but I was diagnosed last May. I also had xrays of my hands to check bone damage - and there is none thankfully! My RD says one of the purposes of the MTX is to PREVENT bone damage...I am also on steroids & Indocin. One question I do have for people - does anyone have any joint cysts? I have a large cyst in my right thumb joint which is very painful & I am having it removed next week. I can barely touch my thumb to my little finger because of it. I don't think this is PA related (neither does my RD) but wonder if anyone else has this type of thing. Hang in there...it's an ongoing process! , Monroe, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 In a message dated 11/14/00 6:36:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, egroups writes: << I just started learning about the PA. I have fibromyalgia also. This has been kinda hard to deal with all this coming at me. >> Hi : I also was diagnosed with Fibro at the same time as the PA and only since last May so I know what you're going through...hang in there & keep talking to this group! , Monroe, MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 Hi Group, Marta, my hips & knees & legs are giving me fits! Like you up high in the groin area, ( Doc says is caused from arthritis in hips), it seems like popping out of joints. It started in rght leg, now it is the left. Its not painful, but I can't seem to keep moving when it does it, like you said, its uncomfortable. If I place my hand there w/ a little force it helps. I notice my right side up in hip area it has shrunk, (sunken in) like maybe the muscle is wasting away? I'm not experiencing this discomfort in that area anymore either. Its now on the left side. Wierd! I was always active, experienced lots of sprained ankles, & scoliosis, but climbed trees, rode my bike, regular tomboy, when a kid, had a hysterectomy 10 years ago, at age 51, I think I went down hill from there. I also have fallen hard on my knees, 3 times in 5 years. I was excercising at the " Y " last year for over a year, & since I stopped is when I seem to have more pain w/ knees, hips, & legs. I don't know if being more inactive in winter is reason, but all I have to do is wash a few loads of clothes or do dishes, standing for a while, sweep floors & mop, I can hardly walk after a short while, & i don't mean doing all this at once. The bottom of my feet hurt soooo bad I can hardly take it!! God Bless everyone, Patsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2001 Report Share Posted February 27, 2001 I also have a lot of pain in in my feet , I can not wear shoes or socks a lot of the time, the pain gets better at times and worse at times. i wear houseshoes alot of the time. How long can you stand on your feet at a time? Do your toes hurt also? Thank goodness for when the pain gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2001 Report Share Posted March 13, 2001 An Angel for you all.....turn up your volume hugs, Marie http://passthison.com/angel3/? <a href= " http://passthison.com/angel3/? " >Click Here</a> --- wrote: > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > The Being Sick Community > > Help with Merger > /files/ > > Visual problems with colors? > Click the link below and select the modify link to > your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text > Email** option. 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Re: Quiet a long time > From: <whyten@...> > 7. Ling > From: <whyten@...> > 8. Re:Lab test Normal > From: Aleka16@... > 9. Re: I'm back > From: <whyten@...> > 10. RE: Lab tests normal....No surprise there > From: Kristy Sokoloski <sokokl@...> > 11. Marie~Thanks > From: Aleka16@... > 12. Re: Surgery -- Fire > From: <whyten@...> > 13. Re: ~ * ~ Welcome Jenn ~ * ~ > From: <whyten@...> > 14. Johanna , Aisha > From: Aleka16@... > 15. Re: Biopsy complete > From: <whyten@...> > 16. Re: Gracie's uro appt. > From: <whyten@...> > 17. Dark > From: Dina Darginsky > <hootdd@...> > 18. RE: Re:Lab test Normal > From: " Don & " > <handd1@...> > 19. Howdy to all > From: Aleka16@... > 20. Week in Review-Medscape Today MedPulse > 09-Mar-01 --Introducing PULMONARY MEDICINE AND > ALLERGY & CLINICAL IMMUNOLOGY > From: " Aisha Elderwyn " > <aisha@...> > 21. Re: Howdy to all > From: <whyten@...> > 22. Joke > From: l harris > <belowskinbeauty@...> > 23. Just in case you missed me > From: angelbear1129@... > 24. Re: Just in case you missed me > From: Faulkncs@... > 25. Re: Digest Number 793( #1) > From: " Jenn Friedhoff " > <bmomjenn@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:52:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Marie Lordan <MissMarie820@...> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 794 > > Hello ... > I haven't had a colonoscopy YET, lol so, > I'm gonna explain as my sister told me. She was > sedated pretty well, which I'm sure helps, and she > said the actual procedure wasn't as bad as she > thought. There was definately some discomfort going > on, but her doctor was very gentle and his " bedside > manner " is an A+...so that in itself helps A > very > long " tubing " with a camera at the end is inserted > and it goes through your whole intestine....which is > I > don't know how many feet long.....and air is pushed > through to expand the colon so they may see it > better > on the screen. Unfortunately you have to be awake > for > this, but after it's done your wheeled into a room > for > awhile to " pass " all that air that was blown > through. > That's the best way I know to explain......I'm sure > I > could tell ya lots more if I'd had mine. lol But I > think that's enough info. I hope this helps > some.... > How are your parents feeling with the HCV? My > husband > is on the interferon therapy and it makes him > soooooooooooooooo ill He also just found he has > kidney problems developing.....we just found out > about > the hep c a few months back (were > devastated).....and > both had liver biopsys.....mine came back ok, but he > is already in early stage of cirrhosis They say > it's from the hep, as he has been sober from alcohol > for 10 years too. (what a slap in the face that > was). > Hepatitis is an epidemic, and it's going to get > worse > with all the teens getting tattoos, body piercings, > etc..and IV drug use. > Oh well, one day at a time is how we do it..... > Take care and I hope everything turns out well for > you!! > ----------------------------- > Welcome Denisa! My name's Marie and I'm new > as > well. This is a great group of caring compassionate > people....I am also in recovery, na/aa! Nice to > " meet " you! > Again, welcome aboard! > ----------------------------- > Goodnight all, and Aisha I hope things are getting a > lot better for you & your husband as well! Take > care! Marie > > --- wrote: > > ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ > > The Being Sick Community > > > > Help with Merger > > /files/ > > > > Visual problems with colors? > > Click the link below and select the modify link to > > your right. Then select the **Send Plain Text > > Email** option. This will stop you receiving > emails > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 so do you think that would help, yesterday it was hurting agian, it is not so bad I can't walk, but is a nuisance and I don't want it to get bad. ***I've never tried brewer's yeast, so I can't comment. But knee pain, that I know about. I had total knee reconstruction. I take glucosamine and I swear by it. I don't think I'd be able to press as much weight as I do if I didn't take it. It's also helped with my shoulder.*** WOW, on the package it says on TB for every 100 pounds body weight. but you take 6 and feel good and continue to burn fat? I think I have a hard time with some fats are good, you know I am so used to the fat is taboo and none is best thinking, I am getting better though, I have it in my head, just applying it is hard. ***I was told not to count the flax seed oil because it contributed to negative calories. Meaning, it' helps burn fat. Some people count it, I don't. I take 6 tablespoons a day and Tim takes 8. I can say that it hasn't hurt his metabolism any at all.*** I never mentioned this b/c I am a bit embarrassed, but when I eat aspargus and caulifour my urine smells, and this explains it. I hope you all never meet me in person, =-) ***PS: trying your chicken recipe this week. It sounds yummy! I love asparagus, it's a natural diuretic.*** des ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2001 Report Share Posted March 26, 2001 so do you think that would help, yesterday it was hurting agian, it is not so bad I can't walk, but is a nuisance and I don't want it to get bad. ***I've never tried brewer's yeast, so I can't comment. But knee pain, that I know about. I had total knee reconstruction. I take glucosamine and I swear by it. I don't think I'd be able to press as much weight as I do if I didn't take it. It's also helped with my shoulder.*** WOW, on the package it says on TB for every 100 pounds body weight. but you take 6 and feel good and continue to burn fat? I think I have a hard time with some fats are good, you know I am so used to the fat is taboo and none is best thinking, I am getting better though, I have it in my head, just applying it is hard. ***I was told not to count the flax seed oil because it contributed to negative calories. Meaning, it' helps burn fat. Some people count it, I don't. I take 6 tablespoons a day and Tim takes 8. I can say that it hasn't hurt his metabolism any at all.*** I never mentioned this b/c I am a bit embarrassed, but when I eat aspargus and caulifour my urine smells, and this explains it. I hope you all never meet me in person, =-) ***PS: trying your chicken recipe this week. It sounds yummy! I love asparagus, it's a natural diuretic.*** des ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 In a message dated 3/28/01 2:21:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > I am VERY opposed to that!!!!! I > could go on and on about how vehement I am on the topic....but wont'. > Donna > > > Aw, c'mon, Donnna........why not??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2001 Report Share Posted March 28, 2001 In a message dated 3/28/01 6:09:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@... writes: << Aw, c'mon, Donnna........why not??? >> LOLOLOL . Nah. I'm nice to my friends....LOL \Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Does MSM have any side effects? Pearl (NY) Country Living at it's finest Countrylife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 On 3 May 2001, at 17:08, PEARLY2@... wrote: > Does MSM have any side effects? I'm not sure if it counts as a side-effect, but it makes my hair and nails grow incredibly fast, and totally changes the texture of my skin (for the better)! What a burden, eh...? Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 If you take too much it will give you allot of gas. That's how you know to cut back. Taking it in the evening will keep you awake at night. I took my 2 doses, once in the morning and once at lunch. I now take one dose in the morning. I don't recall any other experiences with this product that turned out bad. Its possible if you get negative symptoms that is does not agree with you or could be die-off. But sad to say I didn't get any die-off with MSM. LIZ D > [Original Message] > From: <PEARLY2@...> > <candidiasis > > Date: 5/3/01 2:24:59 PM > Subject: Re: Digest Number 795 > > Does MSM have any side effects? > > Pearl (NY) > > > Country Living at it's finest > Countrylife > > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2001 Report Share Posted December 1, 2001 In a message dated 12/1/01 11:10:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: Trudy, It was a new program, filmed appx. this past Spring/Summer. Last time I spoke to her Mom, Marilyn she said Carnie was hoping to have her plastic surgery this month and wanted to have her Mom taking care of her afterwards. Will let you all know if she has the surgery. Joni > dAMN Joni, > I just read most of my mail and seen your post about your cousin, Carni. > Let me know if they run this again, I am so fasinated by her adventure in > weight loss. Was it a new program about her? > Trudy ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Huh? I'm confused by these. Is the person who posted them, recommending them?! If this is becoming yet another drug pushing message board, I'd rather not be a recipient of messages. If I've misunderstood, I apologize. Deb More garbage 'science'... > > (See last paragraph on who sponsored this 'research'...shame on the > scientific establishment for allowing this crap!) > > http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/acurian/20030827/hl_acurian/stanf\ ord__packard_research_finds_better_drug_therapy_for_children_predisposed_to_bipo\ lar_disorder > > > Stanford, Packard Research Finds Better Drug Therapy for Children > Predisposed to Bipolar Disorder > Tue Aug 26, 8:00 PM ET > > > Source: Stanford University Medical Center > > STANFORD, CA -- Children with psychiatric problems who also have a high risk > of developing bipolar disorder respond well to a mood-stabilizing drug, > according to a study that is the first to examine the drug's effect on > children predisposed to bipolar disorder. The researchers at Stanford > University School of Medicine and Lucile Packard Children's Hospital say > determining the correct medication for these children is crucial because > standard drug therapies, such as antidepressants and stimulants, may in fact > trigger manic episodes, exacerbating their underlying condition. > > In a study published in the August 2003 issue of the Journal of Clinical > Psychiatry, the researchers found that more than three-quarters of these > at-risk children showed improvement in their mood or behavioral disorders > after receiving a drug called divalproex. The drug, used to treat mania in > adults, essentially " cools off the brain, " said Kiki Chang, MD, assistant > professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the School of Medicine > and a psychiatrist at Packard Children's Hospital. > > Bipolar disorder affects 2.2 million Americans, who experience extreme and > debilitating highs and lows. Children known as " bipolar offspring " - who > have a parent with bipolar disorder but have not yet developed the disorder > themselves - and who suffer from other psychiatric problems are more likely > to develop the disease. > > Researchers studied 23 bipolar offspring between the ages of 6 and 18 who > had attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or ADHD, depression or other > mood disorders. These children showed signs of depression or mania but did > not meet the criteria for bipolar I or II disorder, though they were > considered at risk. Previous studies have estimated that bipolar offspring > have up to a 24 percent chance of developing the disease, and ADHD might be > a predictor. > > Researchers evaluated patients at the start of the trial, assessing them for > manic and depressive symptoms and determining the severity of their > conditions. After stopping any current medications, the children took > divalproex for 12 weeks and underwent periodic re-evaluations. While there > was no placebo control group, researchers monitored the participants for a > relatively long time, said Chang, first author of the paper. > > Of the study participants, 78 percent were " very much improved " or " much > improved " in their mood or behavioral disorders and 82 percent showed at > least a 50 percent decrease in their ratings of depressive or manic > symptoms. Children with depression responded dramatically to the medication > after as little as one week of treatment. > > " What was most surprising was how quickly the patients responded, and that > patients with depression responded so well to divalproex, " Chang said. While > traditional drugs are effective for most children, they can lead to an > earlier onset of a manic episode for children at risk of bipolar disorder. > The trick then becomes to determine which children are likely to be > predisposed to the illness. > > Chang and his colleagues in the Stanford Pediatric Bipolar Disorders Program > are conducting separate studies investigating the genetics and brain > physiology of bipolar offspring to search for indicators. The scientists are > also designing another divalproex experiment with a placebo component and > will conduct a study monitoring these children to determine if, and when, > they develop bipolar disease. They will also investigate non-drug > interventions, such as family-focused therapies. " Our goal is to identify > these children early for treatment and perhaps prevention, " he said. " If we > can prevent bipolar disease in childhood, we can prevent later treatment > resistance and future complications like substance abuse, poor work and > school performance, and even suicide. " > > It is possible that divalproex not only relieves the mood and behavioral > problems of bipolar offspring, but also delays or prevents the onset of the > disorder, Chang noted. Studies of the drug in cell cultures and mice suggest > that it can help protect the brain, but such studies have not been done in > humans. > > For now, though, Chang hopes to alert psychiatrists to the possibility that > children predisposed to bipolar disorder will respond poorly to standard > medications for other mood and behavior disorders and that there are > alternative treatment options. " We want to raise awareness about these kids > and the idea that perhaps they will be better treated with mood > stabilizers, " he said. > > Families with at least one parent with bipolar disorder and a child with > early indicators of the disorder or bipolar disorder itself and who are > interested in participating in future studies can contact Meghan Howe at > 650-736-2688 or meghowe@.... Volunteers will receive a full > evaluation for all family members and may be eligible to participate in > brain imaging, genetics or medication studies. > > Chang's co-authors are Dienes, research assistant; > Blasey, PhD, research psychologist; Adleman, graduate student; Terence > Ketter, MD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences; and > Hans Steiner, MD, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences. > > The research was supported by grants from Abbott Laboratories, which makes > divalproex; the National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and > Depression; and the Klingenstein Third Generation Foundation. > > > Copyright © 2003 Acurian Inc. . > > > Visit www.acurian.com for more information on new and emerging medical > therapies and clinical trial enrollment opportunities in your condition(s) > of interest. Sign up for customized email updates and visit our > one-of-a-kind Quick Results Center at www.acurian.com/patient > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Huh? I'm confused by these. Is the person who posted them, recommending them?! If this is becoming yet another drug pushing message board, I'd rather not be a recipient of messages. If I've misunderstood, I apologize. Deb More garbage 'science'... > > (See last paragraph on who sponsored this 'research'...shame on the > scientific establishment for allowing this crap!) > > http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/acurian/20030827/hl_acurian/stanf\ ord__packard_research_finds_better_drug_therapy_for_children_predisposed_to_bipo\ lar_disorder > > > Stanford, Packard Research Finds Better Drug Therapy for Children > Predisposed to Bipolar Disorder > Tue Aug 26, 8:00 PM ET > > > Source: Stanford University Medical Center > > STANFORD, CA -- Children with psychiatric problems who also have a high risk > of developing bipolar disorder respond well to a mood-stabilizing drug, > according to a study that is the first to examine the drug's effect on > children predisposed to bipolar disorder. The researchers at Stanford > University School of Medicine and Lucile Packard Children's Hospital say > determining the correct medication for these children is crucial because > standard drug therapies, such as antidepressants and stimulants, may in fact > trigger manic episodes, exacerbating their underlying condition. > > In a study published in the August 2003 issue of the Journal of Clinical > Psychiatry, the researchers found that more than three-quarters of these > at-risk children showed improvement in their mood or behavioral disorders > after receiving a drug called divalproex. The drug, used to treat mania in > adults, essentially " cools off the brain, " said Kiki Chang, MD, assistant > professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the School of Medicine > and a psychiatrist at Packard Children's Hospital. > > Bipolar disorder affects 2.2 million Americans, who experience extreme and > debilitating highs and lows. Children known as " bipolar offspring " - who > have a parent with bipolar disorder but have not yet developed the disorder > themselves - and who suffer from other psychiatric problems are more likely > to develop the disease. > > Researchers studied 23 bipolar offspring between the ages of 6 and 18 who > had attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or ADHD, depression or other > mood disorders. These children showed signs of depression or mania but did > not meet the criteria for bipolar I or II disorder, though they were > considered at risk. Previous studies have estimated that bipolar offspring > have up to a 24 percent chance of developing the disease, and ADHD might be > a predictor. > > Researchers evaluated patients at the start of the trial, assessing them for > manic and depressive symptoms and determining the severity of their > conditions. After stopping any current medications, the children took > divalproex for 12 weeks and underwent periodic re-evaluations. While there > was no placebo control group, researchers monitored the participants for a > relatively long time, said Chang, first author of the paper. > > Of the study participants, 78 percent were " very much improved " or " much > improved " in their mood or behavioral disorders and 82 percent showed at > least a 50 percent decrease in their ratings of depressive or manic > symptoms. Children with depression responded dramatically to the medication > after as little as one week of treatment. > > " What was most surprising was how quickly the patients responded, and that > patients with depression responded so well to divalproex, " Chang said. While > traditional drugs are effective for most children, they can lead to an > earlier onset of a manic episode for children at risk of bipolar disorder. > The trick then becomes to determine which children are likely to be > predisposed to the illness. > > Chang and his colleagues in the Stanford Pediatric Bipolar Disorders Program > are conducting separate studies investigating the genetics and brain > physiology of bipolar offspring to search for indicators. The scientists are > also designing another divalproex experiment with a placebo component and > will conduct a study monitoring these children to determine if, and when, > they develop bipolar disease. They will also investigate non-drug > interventions, such as family-focused therapies. " Our goal is to identify > these children early for treatment and perhaps prevention, " he said. " If we > can prevent bipolar disease in childhood, we can prevent later treatment > resistance and future complications like substance abuse, poor work and > school performance, and even suicide. " > > It is possible that divalproex not only relieves the mood and behavioral > problems of bipolar offspring, but also delays or prevents the onset of the > disorder, Chang noted. Studies of the drug in cell cultures and mice suggest > that it can help protect the brain, but such studies have not been done in > humans. > > For now, though, Chang hopes to alert psychiatrists to the possibility that > children predisposed to bipolar disorder will respond poorly to standard > medications for other mood and behavior disorders and that there are > alternative treatment options. " We want to raise awareness about these kids > and the idea that perhaps they will be better treated with mood > stabilizers, " he said. > > Families with at least one parent with bipolar disorder and a child with > early indicators of the disorder or bipolar disorder itself and who are > interested in participating in future studies can contact Meghan Howe at > 650-736-2688 or meghowe@.... Volunteers will receive a full > evaluation for all family members and may be eligible to participate in > brain imaging, genetics or medication studies. > > Chang's co-authors are Dienes, research assistant; > Blasey, PhD, research psychologist; Adleman, graduate student; Terence > Ketter, MD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences; and > Hans Steiner, MD, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences. > > The research was supported by grants from Abbott Laboratories, which makes > divalproex; the National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and > Depression; and the Klingenstein Third Generation Foundation. > > > Copyright © 2003 Acurian Inc. . > > > Visit www.acurian.com for more information on new and emerging medical > therapies and clinical trial enrollment opportunities in your condition(s) > of interest. Sign up for customized email updates and visit our > one-of-a-kind Quick Results Center at www.acurian.com/patient > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Huh? I'm confused by these. Is the person who posted them, recommending them?! If this is becoming yet another drug pushing message board, I'd rather not be a recipient of messages. If I've misunderstood, I apologize. Deb More garbage 'science'... > > (See last paragraph on who sponsored this 'research'...shame on the > scientific establishment for allowing this crap!) > > http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/acurian/20030827/hl_acurian/stanf\ ord__packard_research_finds_better_drug_therapy_for_children_predisposed_to_bipo\ lar_disorder > > > Stanford, Packard Research Finds Better Drug Therapy for Children > Predisposed to Bipolar Disorder > Tue Aug 26, 8:00 PM ET > > > Source: Stanford University Medical Center > > STANFORD, CA -- Children with psychiatric problems who also have a high risk > of developing bipolar disorder respond well to a mood-stabilizing drug, > according to a study that is the first to examine the drug's effect on > children predisposed to bipolar disorder. The researchers at Stanford > University School of Medicine and Lucile Packard Children's Hospital say > determining the correct medication for these children is crucial because > standard drug therapies, such as antidepressants and stimulants, may in fact > trigger manic episodes, exacerbating their underlying condition. > > In a study published in the August 2003 issue of the Journal of Clinical > Psychiatry, the researchers found that more than three-quarters of these > at-risk children showed improvement in their mood or behavioral disorders > after receiving a drug called divalproex. The drug, used to treat mania in > adults, essentially " cools off the brain, " said Kiki Chang, MD, assistant > professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the School of Medicine > and a psychiatrist at Packard Children's Hospital. > > Bipolar disorder affects 2.2 million Americans, who experience extreme and > debilitating highs and lows. Children known as " bipolar offspring " - who > have a parent with bipolar disorder but have not yet developed the disorder > themselves - and who suffer from other psychiatric problems are more likely > to develop the disease. > > Researchers studied 23 bipolar offspring between the ages of 6 and 18 who > had attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or ADHD, depression or other > mood disorders. These children showed signs of depression or mania but did > not meet the criteria for bipolar I or II disorder, though they were > considered at risk. Previous studies have estimated that bipolar offspring > have up to a 24 percent chance of developing the disease, and ADHD might be > a predictor. > > Researchers evaluated patients at the start of the trial, assessing them for > manic and depressive symptoms and determining the severity of their > conditions. After stopping any current medications, the children took > divalproex for 12 weeks and underwent periodic re-evaluations. While there > was no placebo control group, researchers monitored the participants for a > relatively long time, said Chang, first author of the paper. > > Of the study participants, 78 percent were " very much improved " or " much > improved " in their mood or behavioral disorders and 82 percent showed at > least a 50 percent decrease in their ratings of depressive or manic > symptoms. Children with depression responded dramatically to the medication > after as little as one week of treatment. > > " What was most surprising was how quickly the patients responded, and that > patients with depression responded so well to divalproex, " Chang said. While > traditional drugs are effective for most children, they can lead to an > earlier onset of a manic episode for children at risk of bipolar disorder. > The trick then becomes to determine which children are likely to be > predisposed to the illness. > > Chang and his colleagues in the Stanford Pediatric Bipolar Disorders Program > are conducting separate studies investigating the genetics and brain > physiology of bipolar offspring to search for indicators. The scientists are > also designing another divalproex experiment with a placebo component and > will conduct a study monitoring these children to determine if, and when, > they develop bipolar disease. They will also investigate non-drug > interventions, such as family-focused therapies. " Our goal is to identify > these children early for treatment and perhaps prevention, " he said. " If we > can prevent bipolar disease in childhood, we can prevent later treatment > resistance and future complications like substance abuse, poor work and > school performance, and even suicide. " > > It is possible that divalproex not only relieves the mood and behavioral > problems of bipolar offspring, but also delays or prevents the onset of the > disorder, Chang noted. Studies of the drug in cell cultures and mice suggest > that it can help protect the brain, but such studies have not been done in > humans. > > For now, though, Chang hopes to alert psychiatrists to the possibility that > children predisposed to bipolar disorder will respond poorly to standard > medications for other mood and behavior disorders and that there are > alternative treatment options. " We want to raise awareness about these kids > and the idea that perhaps they will be better treated with mood > stabilizers, " he said. > > Families with at least one parent with bipolar disorder and a child with > early indicators of the disorder or bipolar disorder itself and who are > interested in participating in future studies can contact Meghan Howe at > 650-736-2688 or meghowe@.... Volunteers will receive a full > evaluation for all family members and may be eligible to participate in > brain imaging, genetics or medication studies. > > Chang's co-authors are Dienes, research assistant; > Blasey, PhD, research psychologist; Adleman, graduate student; Terence > Ketter, MD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences; and > Hans Steiner, MD, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences. > > The research was supported by grants from Abbott Laboratories, which makes > divalproex; the National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and > Depression; and the Klingenstein Third Generation Foundation. > > > Copyright © 2003 Acurian Inc. . > > > Visit www.acurian.com for more information on new and emerging medical > therapies and clinical trial enrollment opportunities in your condition(s) > of interest. Sign up for customized email updates and visit our > one-of-a-kind Quick Results Center at www.acurian.com/patient > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Huh? I'm confused by these. Is the person who posted them, recommending them?! If this is becoming yet another drug pushing message board, I'd rather not be a recipient of messages. If I've misunderstood, I apologize. Deb More garbage 'science'... > > (See last paragraph on who sponsored this 'research'...shame on the > scientific establishment for allowing this crap!) > > http://story.news./news?tmpl=story & u=/acurian/20030827/hl_acurian/stanf\ ord__packard_research_finds_better_drug_therapy_for_children_predisposed_to_bipo\ lar_disorder > > > Stanford, Packard Research Finds Better Drug Therapy for Children > Predisposed to Bipolar Disorder > Tue Aug 26, 8:00 PM ET > > > Source: Stanford University Medical Center > > STANFORD, CA -- Children with psychiatric problems who also have a high risk > of developing bipolar disorder respond well to a mood-stabilizing drug, > according to a study that is the first to examine the drug's effect on > children predisposed to bipolar disorder. The researchers at Stanford > University School of Medicine and Lucile Packard Children's Hospital say > determining the correct medication for these children is crucial because > standard drug therapies, such as antidepressants and stimulants, may in fact > trigger manic episodes, exacerbating their underlying condition. > > In a study published in the August 2003 issue of the Journal of Clinical > Psychiatry, the researchers found that more than three-quarters of these > at-risk children showed improvement in their mood or behavioral disorders > after receiving a drug called divalproex. The drug, used to treat mania in > adults, essentially " cools off the brain, " said Kiki Chang, MD, assistant > professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the School of Medicine > and a psychiatrist at Packard Children's Hospital. > > Bipolar disorder affects 2.2 million Americans, who experience extreme and > debilitating highs and lows. Children known as " bipolar offspring " - who > have a parent with bipolar disorder but have not yet developed the disorder > themselves - and who suffer from other psychiatric problems are more likely > to develop the disease. > > Researchers studied 23 bipolar offspring between the ages of 6 and 18 who > had attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or ADHD, depression or other > mood disorders. These children showed signs of depression or mania but did > not meet the criteria for bipolar I or II disorder, though they were > considered at risk. Previous studies have estimated that bipolar offspring > have up to a 24 percent chance of developing the disease, and ADHD might be > a predictor. > > Researchers evaluated patients at the start of the trial, assessing them for > manic and depressive symptoms and determining the severity of their > conditions. After stopping any current medications, the children took > divalproex for 12 weeks and underwent periodic re-evaluations. While there > was no placebo control group, researchers monitored the participants for a > relatively long time, said Chang, first author of the paper. > > Of the study participants, 78 percent were " very much improved " or " much > improved " in their mood or behavioral disorders and 82 percent showed at > least a 50 percent decrease in their ratings of depressive or manic > symptoms. Children with depression responded dramatically to the medication > after as little as one week of treatment. > > " What was most surprising was how quickly the patients responded, and that > patients with depression responded so well to divalproex, " Chang said. While > traditional drugs are effective for most children, they can lead to an > earlier onset of a manic episode for children at risk of bipolar disorder. > The trick then becomes to determine which children are likely to be > predisposed to the illness. > > Chang and his colleagues in the Stanford Pediatric Bipolar Disorders Program > are conducting separate studies investigating the genetics and brain > physiology of bipolar offspring to search for indicators. The scientists are > also designing another divalproex experiment with a placebo component and > will conduct a study monitoring these children to determine if, and when, > they develop bipolar disease. They will also investigate non-drug > interventions, such as family-focused therapies. " Our goal is to identify > these children early for treatment and perhaps prevention, " he said. " If we > can prevent bipolar disease in childhood, we can prevent later treatment > resistance and future complications like substance abuse, poor work and > school performance, and even suicide. " > > It is possible that divalproex not only relieves the mood and behavioral > problems of bipolar offspring, but also delays or prevents the onset of the > disorder, Chang noted. Studies of the drug in cell cultures and mice suggest > that it can help protect the brain, but such studies have not been done in > humans. > > For now, though, Chang hopes to alert psychiatrists to the possibility that > children predisposed to bipolar disorder will respond poorly to standard > medications for other mood and behavior disorders and that there are > alternative treatment options. " We want to raise awareness about these kids > and the idea that perhaps they will be better treated with mood > stabilizers, " he said. > > Families with at least one parent with bipolar disorder and a child with > early indicators of the disorder or bipolar disorder itself and who are > interested in participating in future studies can contact Meghan Howe at > 650-736-2688 or meghowe@.... Volunteers will receive a full > evaluation for all family members and may be eligible to participate in > brain imaging, genetics or medication studies. > > Chang's co-authors are Dienes, research assistant; > Blasey, PhD, research psychologist; Adleman, graduate student; Terence > Ketter, MD, associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences; and > Hans Steiner, MD, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences. > > The research was supported by grants from Abbott Laboratories, which makes > divalproex; the National Alliance for Research on Schizophrenia and > Depression; and the Klingenstein Third Generation Foundation. > > > Copyright © 2003 Acurian Inc. . > > > Visit www.acurian.com for more information on new and emerging medical > therapies and clinical trial enrollment opportunities in your condition(s) > of interest. Sign up for customized email updates and visit our > one-of-a-kind Quick Results Center at www.acurian.com/patient > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Hi Carol, Please send me an email letting me know exactly when you will be up and when you will have the time, and I'd love to get together! Maybe we can do lunch! Just email me any time at: mischelle17@... I'd love to hear from you :-) Cheers Mischelle in Oz Progressive loss due to childhood measles Severe/profound by early 20's - HA's for 30 years! Nucleus 24 Contour, August 2000 and wearing the ESPrit 3G! Consumer Advocate Cochlear Ltd, Sydney, Australia Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:52:33 +1100 From: " Carolanne Drage " <cdrage@...> Subject: Re: RE: Mischelle - off topic Hi Mischelle, I am coming to sydney the last weekend of april would love to catch up. Sorry I am not bringing Kristian only the rat bag of a puppy. regurds Carol mother Kristian 9 N22 aug 96 N24 sept 03 _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Tobhik wrote: Any body knows any research about the avian flu virus vs vco? There's a website--it has been down for a few days--called www.lauric.org where research is ongoing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Hotep, It's been a long time since I've been around, but I'm finding time now to get into sprouting again. I need to comment on the below response. First, lightly cooked, steamed and slightly rotted food are actually more beneficial than either totally raw or totally cooked food. The above methods break down the tough fibrous outside of vegetables which allows access to the nutrients. We get very little benefit from just chewing because of the design of our teeth and stomach. Just think of the method cows use to digest their food. Also, I'd like to speak to the difference between rotting, fermenting and cultured foods. Yogurt is a cultured food, not a rotted or fermented one. Bacteria has been added to milk to produce the yogurt and yes it is very beneficial. Fermentation is controlled rotting and produces poisons. These poisons can be enjoyable (think of wine), but are not very healthy. Yeast, which I think you were getting confused with yogurt, needs to be present in order for food to ferment. Rotting is the process of fermentation without the yeast. In a message dated 03/07/2006 3:21:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:33:08 -0600 (CST) From: <003marklanders@...> Subject: Re: Re: from book of essene peace gospels I sometimes wonder how much we don't know about the benefits of uncooked foods (like sprouts). We cook to kill parasites and break down anti-nutrients in grains and legumes; necessary but... what are we losing? One caveat; " rotted " foods (fermentation) can be very healthful, think of yogurt. >Greetings! Your information is most timely as I was asking about Essene bread and whole sprouted bread. The website may help my awareness as since 1996 there has been this curiosity of the Essene bread which I feel important to learn about. ****TheLady > >magnolia filbert <rootdoctor2002@...> wrote: some very interesting info about raw foods and grains, grass, sprouts from www.essene.com Until Later, Floating DarkMoon, the Organic Soul Woman Hut Sut Ra The Portal - _http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon_ (http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon) - Newly updated! ICQ - 279939740 AOL AIM - Floatdarkmoon or Newvegesprout ****************************************************************************** ******* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 It is delightful to see your good words again. Our new college textbook on Nutrition has a section in each chapter called 'The Chemists Viewpoint' and it quite thoroughly and technically explains the particular and highly beneficial nutrients that are released from plant based foods via the heating, fermenting, and culturing processes. The professor invariably mentions the importance of maintaining a well balanced diet and stresses the need to educate ourselves and our children in order to make the informed balanced choices needed to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Aho, newvegesprout@... wrote: Hotep, It's been a long time since I've been around, but I'm finding time now to get into sprouting again. I need to comment on the below response. First, lightly cooked, steamed and slightly rotted food are actually more beneficial than either totally raw or totally cooked food. The above methods break down the tough fibrous outside of vegetables which allows access to the nutrients. We get very little benefit from just chewing because of the design of our teeth and stomach. Just think of the method cows use to digest their food. Also, I'd like to speak to the difference between rotting, fermenting and cultured foods. Yogurt is a cultured food, not a rotted or fermented one. Bacteria has been added to milk to produce the yogurt and yes it is very beneficial. Fermentation is controlled rotting and produces poisons. These poisons can be enjoyable (think of wine), but are not very healthy. Yeast, which I think you were getting confused with yogurt, needs to be present in order for food to ferment. Rotting is the process of fermentation without the yeast. In a message dated 03/07/2006 3:21:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:33:08 -0600 (CST) From: <003marklanders@...> Subject: Re: Re: from book of essene peace gospels I sometimes wonder how much we don't know about the benefits of uncooked foods (like sprouts). We cook to kill parasites and break down anti-nutrients in grains and legumes; necessary but... what are we losing? One caveat; " rotted " foods (fermentation) can be very healthful, think of yogurt. >Greetings! Your information is most timely as I was asking about Essene bread and whole sprouted bread. The website may help my awareness as since 1996 there has been this curiosity of the Essene bread which I feel important to learn about. ****TheLady > >magnolia filbert <rootdoctor2002@...> wrote: some very interesting info about raw foods and grains, grass, sprouts from www.essene.com Until Later, Floating DarkMoon, the Organic Soul Woman Hut Sut Ra The Portal - _http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon_ (http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon) - Newly updated! ICQ - 279939740 AOL AIM - Floatdarkmoon or Newvegesprout ****************************************************************************** ******* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes, the definition of a " ferment " is culturing with yeast. Poisons aren't always the result; think of bread. Bacteria are almost omnipresent; " cultured " milk and other foods (pickles!) were probably serendipitous discoveries. > > >Hotep, > >It's been a long time since I've been around, but I'm finding time now to >get into sprouting again. I need to comment on the below response. > >First, lightly cooked, steamed and slightly rotted food are actually more >beneficial than either totally raw or totally cooked food. The above methods >break down the tough fibrous outside of vegetables which allows access to the >nutrients. We get very little benefit from just chewing because of the >design of our teeth and stomach. Just think of the method cows use to digest >their food. > >Also, I'd like to speak to the difference between rotting, fermenting and >cultured foods. Yogurt is a cultured food, not a rotted or fermented one. >Bacteria has been added to milk to produce the yogurt and yes it is very >beneficial. Fermentation is controlled rotting and produces poisons. These poisons >can be enjoyable (think of wine), but are not very healthy. Yeast, which I >think you were getting confused with yogurt, needs to be present in order for >food to ferment. Rotting is the process of fermentation without the yeast. > >In a message dated 03/07/2006 3:21:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > writes: > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:33:08 -0600 (CST) >From: <003marklanders@...> >Subject: Re: Re: from book of essene peace gospels > >I sometimes wonder how much we don't know about the benefits of uncooked >foods (like sprouts). We cook to kill parasites and break down anti-nutrients in >grains and legumes; necessary but... what are we losing? > >One caveat; " rotted " foods (fermentation) can be very healthful, think of >yogurt. > >>Greetings! Your information is most timely as I was asking about Essene >bread and whole sprouted bread. The website may help my awareness as since >1996 there has been this curiosity of the Essene bread which I feel important to >learn about. ****TheLady >> >>magnolia filbert <rootdoctor2002@...> wrote: some very interesting >info about raw foods and grains, grass, sprouts from www.essene.com > > >Until Later, > >Floating DarkMoon, the Organic Soul Woman >Hut Sut Ra > >The Portal - _http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon_ >(http://geocities.com/floatdarkmoon) - Newly updated! > >ICQ - 279939740 >AOL AIM - Floatdarkmoon or Newvegesprout >****************************************************************************** >******* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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