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Sharon last winter Susy & I went back for a vist

the first time that we went back in the winter. It was

the coldest December in the states history. It wasn't

bad at all. There was snow on the ground but the roads

were clear for the most part. I can handle that. So

far I'm handling Peg-Intron.

Terry

--- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I always thought anything over 85 is too hot,

> humid or not. I just don't know if I could handle

> snow. But then I guess if I can handle Peg-intron,

> snow is probably easy.

> Sharon

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > Sharon, People out here say in the sumers it is

> > hot

> > but it is a dry heat. But when it's 115 to 120 for

> > the

> > high in the day & at 10:00 at night & it's 105. It

> > makes no differance. If it's dry or humid, it's

> HOT

> > to

> > hot to spend very much time. You get in your car

> > after

> > it sits in a parking lot for thirty minutes or

> > longer

> > you can burn your hands & fingers on the steering

> > wheel. I lived in the midwest the first 27 years

> of

> > my

> > life. The last 21 years here in Az. I'll take the

> > midwest even in the winter over this.

> > Terry

> > --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > > I live in Houston. The winters are great. One

> day

> > a

> > > high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are

> hot,

> > > humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my

> > life

> > > and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll

> get

> > > used

> > > to the heat, don't believe them. After 45 years

> I

> > > still hate the heat. One of the few places in

> the

> > US

> > > I

> > > haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go

> > there

> > > someday.

> > > Sharon

> > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in

> > AZ

> > > > my folks had retired to

> > > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> > Yuma...

> > > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > > visit them & when the house got (inside got

> down

> > > to

> > > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went

> out

> > > on

> > > > the patio & sat out on

> > > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he

> > was

> > > > just amazed when he looked

> > > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still

> 110

> > > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken

> > was

> > > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when

> we

> > > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew

> up

> > in

> > > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would

> > fry

> > > > eggs on the main st.

> > > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer

> > for

> > > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> > > small

> > > > town east of San Diego

> > > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> > I've

> > > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no

> > smog

> > > > that I grew up

> > > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > > > arlene

> > > > After going through the midwest plains states

> to

> > > So

> > > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > > summer there even though they did have a

> tornado

> > > go

> > > > through raoid city while

> > > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> > happened

> > > > in Aug they called it

> > > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > > destructive & started all those

> > > > forest fires that went through the Plains

> states

> > > > clear as far west as central

> > > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > > keeping

> > > > outta all the smoke in

> > > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> > very

> > > > early from Rapid

> > > > City(storming every evening & alll night long

> > for

> > > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the

> storms

> > > > would die down from about

> > > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear

> > to

> > > > western Montana before we

> > > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14

> hours

> > > that

> > > > days & were plum

> > > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > > arlene

> > > > Terry Long wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> > high

> > > > temps

> > > > > go over 100 in late April or early May &

> stays

> > > > there

> > > > > until late September or early October. For

> > > several

> > > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> > mid

> > > > 90's.

> > > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> > loved

> > > it

> > > > out

> > > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact

> that

> > > the

> > > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000

> to

> > > > over

> > > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > > back

> > > > to

> > > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> > 10,000'.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters

> can

> > be

> > > a

> > > > bit

> > > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes

> make

> > up

> > > > for

> > > > > > it,

> > > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

>

> > > -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived

> in

> > > the

> > > > not

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> > AZ "

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT

> midwest

> > > " Mo

> > > > &

> > > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> > house

> > > > sold &

> > > > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my

> front

> > > door

> > > > &

> > > > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

>

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Well, like in Green Bay we get pretty used to the

cold. But we have temperature swings when it gets down

to 20 below or more and nobody gets used to that. They

tell us it only takes minutes for any exposed skin to

get frostbitten at those temps. -dz-

--- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> I live in Houston. The winters are great. One day a

> high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are hot,

> humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my life

> and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll get

> used

> to the heat, don't believe them. After 45 years I

> still hate the heat. One of the few places in the US

> I

> haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go there

> someday.

> Sharon

> --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in AZ

> > my folks had retired to

> > the footlills section of about 20 east of Yuma...

> > one april Ken & I went to

> > visit them & when the house got (inside got down

> to

> > about 85 degrees my mom

> > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went out

> on

> > the patio & sat out on

> > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he was

> > just amazed when he looked

> > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still 110

> > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken was

> > born in Idaho & grew here

> > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when we

> > retire we'd probably move to

> > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew up in

> > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would fry

> > eggs on the main st.

> > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer for

> > decades but I don't suppose

> > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> small

> > town east of San Diego

> > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs I've

> > lived here in Oregon. but

> > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no smog

> > that I grew up

> > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > arlene

> > After going through the midwest plains states to

> So

> > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > summer there even though they did have a tornado

> go

> > through raoid city while

> > we were there--- of course seeing that it happened

> > in Aug they called it

> > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > destructive & started all those

> > forest fires that went through the Plains states

> > clear as far west as central

> > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> keeping

> > outta all the smoke in

> > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out very

> > early from Rapid

> > City(storming every evening & alll night long for

> > about 7-8 days but after

> > the first 5 days we noticed the that the storms

> > would die down from about

> > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear to

> > western Montana before we

> > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14 hours

> that

> > days & were plum

> > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > arlene

> > Terry Long wrote:

> >

> > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > temps

> > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> > there

> > > until late September or early October. For

> several

> > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > 90's.

> > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved

> it

> > out

> > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> the

> > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> > over

> > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> back

> > to

> > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > > Terry

> > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be

> a

> > bit

> > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up

> > for

> > > > it,

> > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> -dz-

> > > >

> > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> the

> > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > > before

> > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> " Mo

> > &

> > > > > Il " .

> > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house

> > sold &

> > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> door

> > &

> > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> > hunting

> > > > > pretty

> > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > > border

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > Mississippi

> > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> so

> > > > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> seen

> > > > first

> > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> kids

> > > > that

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all

> > male

> > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> > tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > turn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > > > >

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Hi Terry. Madtown, eh? It's a good town. I grew up in

Milwaukee. Madison kind of makes a triangle between

Milwaukee, Green Bay and itself. These are the 3

largest cities in the state. Green Bay is 3rd. When I

decided to move back to Wisconsin. I job searched in

Milwaukee, Madison and Green Bay. I got my first job

offer in Green Bay and 10 years later here I still am.

-dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Atlene, Several thosand retire out here every

> year.

> Several thosand more spend the winters or part of

> the

> winter out here. But there are a few thosand like me

> who moved out here during their working years & are

> waiting to move back to or near where they came

> from.

> If I don't transfer to our main plant in Madison Wi.

> I

> will have my house sold & will be backing a U-Hall

> up

> to my front door the day after I retire & will be

> moving back to Central MO.

> Terry

> --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in AZ

> > my folks had retired to

> > the footlills section of about 20 east of Yuma...

> > one april Ken & I went to

> > visit them & when the house got (inside got down

> to

> > about 85 degrees my mom

> > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went out

> on

> > the patio & sat out on

> > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he was

> > just amazed when he looked

> > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still 110

> > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken was

> > born in Idaho & grew here

> > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when we

> > retire we'd probably move to

> > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew up in

> > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would fry

> > eggs on the main st.

> > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer for

> > decades but I don't suppose

> > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> small

> > town east of San Diego

> > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs I've

> > lived here in Oregon. but

> > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no smog

> > that I grew up

> > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > arlene

> > After going through the midwest plains states to

> So

> > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > summer there even though they did have a tornado

> go

> > through raoid city while

> > we were there--- of course seeing that it happened

> > in Aug they called it

> > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > destructive & started all those

> > forest fires that went through the Plains states

> > clear as far west as central

> > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> keeping

> > outta all the smoke in

> > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out very

> > early from Rapid

> > City(storming every evening & alll night long for

> > about 7-8 days but after

> > the first 5 days we noticed the that the storms

> > would die down from about

> > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear to

> > western Montana before we

> > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14 hours

> that

> > days & were plum

> > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > arlene

> > Terry Long wrote:

> >

> > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > temps

> > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> > there

> > > until late September or early October. For

> several

> > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > 90's.

> > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved

> it

> > out

> > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> the

> > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> > over

> > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> back

> > to

> > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > > Terry

> > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be

> a

> > bit

> > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up

> > for

> > > > it,

> > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> -dz-

> > > >

> > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> the

> > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > > before

> > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> " Mo

> > &

> > > > > Il " .

> > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house

> > sold &

> > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> door

> > &

> > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> > hunting

> > > > > pretty

> > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > > border

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > Mississippi

> > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> so

> > > > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> seen

> > > > first

> > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> kids

> > > > that

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all

> > male

> > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> > tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > turn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > > > >

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They overexaggerate that humidity, don't they. It does

make a difference. Like 85 can be intolerable here

when the humidity is over 90%, but relatively

comfortable out west where humidity is under 30. Once

it gets over 100, it's HOT! No matter what the

humidity. I remember in Las Vegas going out barefoot,

even the white concrete burned my feet! Here we just

have to watch out for blacktop. -dz-

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Sharon, People out here say in the sumers it is

> hot

> but it is a dry heat. But when it's 115 to 120 for

> the

> high in the day & at 10:00 at night & it's 105. It

> makes no differance. If it's dry or humid, it's HOT

> to

> hot to spend very much time. You get in your car

> after

> it sits in a parking lot for thirty minutes or

> longer

> you can burn your hands & fingers on the steering

> wheel. I lived in the midwest the first 27 years of

> my

> life. The last 21 years here in Az. I'll take the

> midwest even in the winter over this.

> Terry

> --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > I live in Houston. The winters are great. One day

> a

> > high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are hot,

> > humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my

> life

> > and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll get

> > used

> > to the heat, don't believe them. After 45 years I

> > still hate the heat. One of the few places in the

> US

> > I

> > haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go

> there

> > someday.

> > Sharon

> > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in

> AZ

> > > my folks had retired to

> > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> Yuma...

> > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > visit them & when the house got (inside got down

> > to

> > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went out

> > on

> > > the patio & sat out on

> > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he

> was

> > > just amazed when he looked

> > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still 110

> > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken

> was

> > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when we

> > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew up

> in

> > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would

> fry

> > > eggs on the main st.

> > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer

> for

> > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> > small

> > > town east of San Diego

> > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> I've

> > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no

> smog

> > > that I grew up

> > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > > arlene

> > > After going through the midwest plains states to

> > So

> > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > summer there even though they did have a tornado

> > go

> > > through raoid city while

> > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> happened

> > > in Aug they called it

> > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > destructive & started all those

> > > forest fires that went through the Plains states

> > > clear as far west as central

> > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > keeping

> > > outta all the smoke in

> > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> very

> > > early from Rapid

> > > City(storming every evening & alll night long

> for

> > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the storms

> > > would die down from about

> > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear

> to

> > > western Montana before we

> > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14 hours

> > that

> > > days & were plum

> > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > arlene

> > > Terry Long wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> high

> > > temps

> > > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> > > there

> > > > until late September or early October. For

> > several

> > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> mid

> > > 90's.

> > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> loved

> > it

> > > out

> > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> > the

> > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> > > over

> > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > back

> > > to

> > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> 10,000'.

> > > > Terry

> > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can

> be

> > a

> > > bit

> > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make

> up

> > > for

> > > > > it,

> > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> > -dz-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> > the

> > > not

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> AZ "

> > > > > before

> > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> > " Mo

> > > &

> > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> house

> > > sold &

> > > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> > door

> > > &

> > > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> > > hunting

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the

> western

> > > > > border

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> > so

> > > > > tired

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> > seen

> > > > > first

> > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> > kids

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an

> all

> > > male

>

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Snow isn't the bad part of our winters. I usually

enjoy a good snowstorm. It's that late part of winter

after the packers are done playing... it's even too

cold to snow. Like Feb and Mar are tough to take.

We've had enough by then... -dz-

--- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I always thought anything over 85 is too hot,

> humid or not. I just don't know if I could handle

> snow. But then I guess if I can handle Peg-intron,

> snow is probably easy.

> Sharon

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > Sharon, People out here say in the sumers it is

> > hot

> > but it is a dry heat. But when it's 115 to 120 for

> > the

> > high in the day & at 10:00 at night & it's 105. It

> > makes no differance. If it's dry or humid, it's

> HOT

> > to

> > hot to spend very much time. You get in your car

> > after

> > it sits in a parking lot for thirty minutes or

> > longer

> > you can burn your hands & fingers on the steering

> > wheel. I lived in the midwest the first 27 years

> of

> > my

> > life. The last 21 years here in Az. I'll take the

> > midwest even in the winter over this.

> > Terry

> > --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > > I live in Houston. The winters are great. One

> day

> > a

> > > high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are

> hot,

> > > humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my

> > life

> > > and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll

> get

> > > used

> > > to the heat, don't believe them. After 45 years

> I

> > > still hate the heat. One of the few places in

> the

> > US

> > > I

> > > haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go

> > there

> > > someday.

> > > Sharon

> > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in

> > AZ

> > > > my folks had retired to

> > > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> > Yuma...

> > > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > > visit them & when the house got (inside got

> down

> > > to

> > > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went

> out

> > > on

> > > > the patio & sat out on

> > > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he

> > was

> > > > just amazed when he looked

> > > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still

> 110

> > > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken

> > was

> > > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when

> we

> > > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew

> up

> > in

> > > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would

> > fry

> > > > eggs on the main st.

> > > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer

> > for

> > > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> > > small

> > > > town east of San Diego

> > > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> > I've

> > > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no

> > smog

> > > > that I grew up

> > > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > > > arlene

> > > > After going through the midwest plains states

> to

> > > So

> > > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > > summer there even though they did have a

> tornado

> > > go

> > > > through raoid city while

> > > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> > happened

> > > > in Aug they called it

> > > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > > destructive & started all those

> > > > forest fires that went through the Plains

> states

> > > > clear as far west as central

> > > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > > keeping

> > > > outta all the smoke in

> > > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> > very

> > > > early from Rapid

> > > > City(storming every evening & alll night long

> > for

> > > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the

> storms

> > > > would die down from about

> > > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear

> > to

> > > > western Montana before we

> > > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14

> hours

> > > that

> > > > days & were plum

> > > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > > arlene

> > > > Terry Long wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> > high

> > > > temps

> > > > > go over 100 in late April or early May &

> stays

> > > > there

> > > > > until late September or early October. For

> > > several

> > > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> > mid

> > > > 90's.

> > > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> > loved

> > > it

> > > > out

> > > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact

> that

> > > the

> > > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000

> to

> > > > over

> > > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > > back

> > > > to

> > > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> > 10,000'.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters

> can

> > be

> > > a

> > > > bit

> > > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes

> make

> > up

> > > > for

> > > > > > it,

> > > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

>

> > > -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived

> in

> > > the

> > > > not

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> > AZ "

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT

> midwest

> > > " Mo

> > > > &

> > > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> > house

> > > > sold &

> > > > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my

> front

> > > door

> > > > &

> > > > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

>

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When I first moved to this area I lived in a very

small town too. I worked in the shipyards in Sturgeon

Bay (population 7,800), but I lived out in the

country. My address was Route 1 Egg Harbor. (Egg

Harbor, population 184). I loved it out there (on the

" door " peninsula), that's why I moved here. I'm pretty

close to get back up there. -dz-

--- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> dz the town Ken & I live only has a pop of about

> 2000 or less When we moved

> up here about 8 yr ago there were only about

> 800-1000 residents but then we

> don't actually live in town either- about 2.5 mi to

> twn!

> arlene

>

> imaganeer wrote:

>

> > We're about 100,000 here in Green Bay. I remember

> > noticing when I flew into Phoenix one time, all

> the

> > swimming pools really struck me from the air. I

> guess

> > you need them there... -dz-

> >

> > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > > temps

> > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> there

> > > until late September or early October. For

> several

> > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > > 90's.

> > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved

> it

> > > out

> > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> the

> > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> over

> > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> back to

> > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > > Terry

> > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be

> a

> > > bit

> > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up

> for

> > > > it,

> > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> -dz-

> > > >

> > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> the

> > > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > > before

> > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> " Mo &

> > > > > Il " .

> > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house

> sold

> > > &

> > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> door &

> > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> hunting

> > > > > pretty

> > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > > border

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> so

> > > > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> seen

> > > > first

> > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> kids

> > > > that

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all

> male

> > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > > turn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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When I sent in the population for ville, I was wrong. That is for the

whole county, which consists of about 8 towns....with ville as the

county seat. Still it sounds like your town is alot smaller than where I'm

at. I'm not sure I could live there...already here everyone knows your

business.....can't imagine how it would be there.

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>

> We're about 100,000 here in Green Bay. I remember

> noticing when I flew into Phoenix one time, all the

> swimming pools really struck me from the air. I guess

> you need them there... -dz-

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > temps

> > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays there

> > until late September or early October. For several

> > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > 90's.

> > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved it

> > out

> > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that the

> > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to over

> > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move back to

> > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > Terry

> > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be a

> > bit

> > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up for

> > > it,

> > > especially if you like fishing & hunting. -dz-

> > >

> > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in the

> > not

> > > > so

> > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > before

> > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest " Mo &

> > > > Il " .

> > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house sold

> > &

> > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front door &

> > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > Terry

> > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer hunting

> > > > pretty

> > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > border

> > > > of

> > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > Mississippi

> > > > > > river.

> > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm so

> > > tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have seen

> > > first

> > > > > hand

> > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor kids

> > > that

> > > > > are

> > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all male

> > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am tired

> > > of

> > > > > his

> > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > turn.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > > > >

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we mostly don't have ANY mosquitoes here in NW Oregon.......but we have

very thorny & almost impossible to kill off blackerry vines & bushes

everywhere!! At least they don't fly But there here all year round

& you really have to pay attention or you'll get snagged & cut

up by them

Jannewilms42@... wrote:

You may have

giant mosquitos but we have them in quantity...Huge amounts swarming ya...We

always say they will carry us off one day.LOL

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Dz if you grew up in Madison, maybe you know my

Company. Were headcorted up their & that were our main

plant is Sub_Zero Frezer.

Terry

--- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> Hi Terry. Madtown, eh? It's a good town. I grew up

> in

> Milwaukee. Madison kind of makes a triangle between

> Milwaukee, Green Bay and itself. These are the 3

> largest cities in the state. Green Bay is 3rd. When

> I

> decided to move back to Wisconsin. I job searched in

> Milwaukee, Madison and Green Bay. I got my first job

> offer in Green Bay and 10 years later here I still

> am.

> -dz-

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > Atlene, Several thosand retire out here every

> > year.

> > Several thosand more spend the winters or part of

> > the

> > winter out here. But there are a few thosand like

> me

> > who moved out here during their working years &

> are

> > waiting to move back to or near where they came

> > from.

> > If I don't transfer to our main plant in Madison

> Wi.

> > I

> > will have my house sold & will be backing a U-Hall

> > up

> > to my front door the day after I retire & will be

> > moving back to Central MO.

> > Terry

> > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in

> AZ

> > > my folks had retired to

> > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> Yuma...

> > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > visit them & when the house got (inside got down

> > to

> > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went out

> > on

> > > the patio & sat out on

> > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he

> was

> > > just amazed when he looked

> > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still 110

> > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken

> was

> > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when we

> > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew up

> in

> > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would

> fry

> > > eggs on the main st.

> > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer

> for

> > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> > small

> > > town east of San Diego

> > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> I've

> > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no

> smog

> > > that I grew up

> > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > > arlene

> > > After going through the midwest plains states to

> > So

> > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > summer there even though they did have a tornado

> > go

> > > through raoid city while

> > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> happened

> > > in Aug they called it

> > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > destructive & started all those

> > > forest fires that went through the Plains states

> > > clear as far west as central

> > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > keeping

> > > outta all the smoke in

> > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> very

> > > early from Rapid

> > > City(storming every evening & alll night long

> for

> > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the storms

> > > would die down from about

> > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear

> to

> > > western Montana before we

> > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14 hours

> > that

> > > days & were plum

> > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > arlene

> > > Terry Long wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> high

> > > temps

> > > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> > > there

> > > > until late September or early October. For

> > several

> > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> mid

> > > 90's.

> > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> loved

> > it

> > > out

> > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> > the

> > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> > > over

> > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > back

> > > to

> > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> 10,000'.

> > > > Terry

> > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can

> be

> > a

> > > bit

> > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make

> up

> > > for

> > > > > it,

> > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> > -dz-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> > the

> > > not

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> AZ "

> > > > > before

> > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> > " Mo

> > > &

> > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> house

> > > sold &

> > > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> > door

> > > &

> > > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> > > hunting

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the

> western

> > > > > border

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> > so

> > > > > tired

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> > seen

> > > > > first

> > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> > kids

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an

> all

> > > male

> > > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

>

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Dz I don't mind it at 100 in may when the Humidity

is down below 20. When it hits 105 that's HOT, our

temps in Late May & June are normaly 110 to 118. But

in July & August our Humidity is 30 to 50% and the

temps are 105 to 110. It is nasty.

Terry

--- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> They overexaggerate that humidity, don't they. It

> does

> make a difference. Like 85 can be intolerable here

> when the humidity is over 90%, but relatively

> comfortable out west where humidity is under 30.

> Once

> it gets over 100, it's HOT! No matter what the

> humidity. I remember in Las Vegas going out

> barefoot,

> even the white concrete burned my feet! Here we just

> have to watch out for blacktop. -dz-

>

> --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > Sharon, People out here say in the sumers it is

> > hot

> > but it is a dry heat. But when it's 115 to 120 for

> > the

> > high in the day & at 10:00 at night & it's 105. It

> > makes no differance. If it's dry or humid, it's

> HOT

> > to

> > hot to spend very much time. You get in your car

> > after

> > it sits in a parking lot for thirty minutes or

> > longer

> > you can burn your hands & fingers on the steering

> > wheel. I lived in the midwest the first 27 years

> of

> > my

> > life. The last 21 years here in Az. I'll take the

> > midwest even in the winter over this.

> > Terry

> > --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > > I live in Houston. The winters are great. One

> day

> > a

> > > high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are

> hot,

> > > humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my

> > life

> > > and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll

> get

> > > used

> > > to the heat, don't believe them. After 45 years

> I

> > > still hate the heat. One of the few places in

> the

> > US

> > > I

> > > haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go

> > there

> > > someday.

> > > Sharon

> > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps in

> > AZ

> > > > my folks had retired to

> > > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> > Yuma...

> > > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > > visit them & when the house got (inside got

> down

> > > to

> > > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went

> out

> > > on

> > > > the patio & sat out on

> > > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there he

> > was

> > > > just amazed when he looked

> > > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still

> 110

> > > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW Ken

> > was

> > > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when

> we

> > > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew

> up

> > in

> > > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they would

> > fry

> > > > eggs on the main st.

> > > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey summer

> > for

> > > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer a

> > > small

> > > > town east of San Diego

> > > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> > I've

> > > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine / no

> > smog

> > > > that I grew up

> > > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years old

> > > > arlene

> > > > After going through the midwest plains states

> to

> > > So

> > > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > > summer there even though they did have a

> tornado

> > > go

> > > > through raoid city while

> > > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> > happened

> > > > in Aug they called it

> > > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > > destructive & started all those

> > > > forest fires that went through the Plains

> states

> > > > clear as far west as central

> > > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > > keeping

> > > > outta all the smoke in

> > > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> > very

> > > > early from Rapid

> > > > City(storming every evening & alll night long

> > for

> > > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the

> storms

> > > > would die down from about

> > > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride clear

> > to

> > > > western Montana before we

> > > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14

> hours

> > > that

> > > > days & were plum

> > > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > > arlene

> > > > Terry Long wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> > high

> > > > temps

> > > > > go over 100 in late April or early May &

> stays

> > > > there

> > > > > until late September or early October. For

> > > several

> > > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> > mid

> > > > 90's.

> > > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> > loved

> > > it

> > > > out

> > > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact

> that

> > > the

> > > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000

> to

> > > > over

> > > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > > back

> > > > to

> > > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> > 10,000'.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters

> can

> > be

> > > a

> > > > bit

> > > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes

> make

> > up

> > > > for

> > > > > > it,

> > > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

>

> > > -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived

> in

> > > the

> > > > not

> > > > > > > so

> > > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> > AZ "

> > > > > > before

> > > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT

> midwest

> > > " Mo

> > > > &

> > > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> > house

>

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Machelle When I go back to Central MO, Susy & I go

to the town " Hallsvile Pop, 1000 " were I was partly

raised in People that are my age & older know's who my

parents & grandparents Aunts & Uncals & so no are. The

same thing when go to the small town Pop 2000. Another

thing if you bank in small town bamk when you walk in

they know you by name & call you by name as you walk

into the bank. I like that.

Terry

--- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> When I sent in the population for ville, I

> was wrong. That is for the

> whole county, which consists of about 8

> towns....with ville as the

> county seat. Still it sounds like your town is alot

> smaller than where I'm

> at. I'm not sure I could live there...already here

> everyone knows your

> business.....can't imagine how it would be there.

>

>

> Re: [ ] Custody Battles

> >

> > We're about 100,000 here in Green Bay. I remember

> > noticing when I flew into Phoenix one time, all

> the

> > swimming pools really struck me from the air. I

> guess

> > you need them there... -dz-

> >

> > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > > temps

> > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> there

> > > until late September or early October. For

> several

> > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > > 90's.

> > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved

> it

> > > out

> > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> the

> > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> over

> > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> back to

> > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > > Terry

> > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be

> a

> > > bit

> > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up

> for

> > > > it,

> > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> -dz-

> > > >

> > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> the

> > > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > > before

> > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> " Mo &

> > > > > Il " .

> > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house

> sold

> > > &

> > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> door &

> > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> hunting

> > > > > pretty

> > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > > border

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> so

> > > > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> seen

> > > > first

> > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> kids

> > > > that

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all

> male

> > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > > turn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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I guess what I was trying to say is I'm somewhat a private person. I'm not

sure that I would like to know every one and every one know me and my

business...

Re: [ ] Custody Battles

> >

> > We're about 100,000 here in Green Bay. I remember

> > noticing when I flew into Phoenix one time, all

> the

> > swimming pools really struck me from the air. I

> guess

> > you need them there... -dz-

> >

> > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our high

> > > temps

> > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> there

> > > until late September or early October. For

> several

> > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the mid

> > > 90's.

> > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I loved

> it

> > > out

> > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> the

> > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> over

> > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> back to

> > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then 10,000'.

> > > Terry

> > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can be

> a

> > > bit

> > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make up

> for

> > > > it,

> > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> -dz-

> > > >

> > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> the

> > > not

> > > > > so

> > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix AZ "

> > > > before

> > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> " Mo &

> > > > > Il " .

> > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my house

> sold

> > > &

> > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> door &

> > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > Terry

> > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> hunting

> > > > > pretty

> > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the western

> > > > border

> > > > > of

> > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> wrote:

> > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> so

> > > > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> seen

> > > > first

> > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> kids

> > > > that

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an all

> male

> > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> tired

> > > > of

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone else's

> > > turn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

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I can top you on humidity. And here they have a heat

index. The weathermen like to tell you how hot it

feels. Like 102 isn't bad enough. But the good thing

about the humidity is it keeps your skin from drying

out, it molds instead.lol

Sharon

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Dz I don't mind it at 100 in may when the

> Humidity

> is down below 20. When it hits 105 that's HOT, our

> temps in Late May & June are normaly 110 to 118. But

> in July & August our Humidity is 30 to 50% and the

> temps are 105 to 110. It is nasty.

> Terry

> --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > They overexaggerate that humidity, don't they. It

> > does

> > make a difference. Like 85 can be intolerable here

> > when the humidity is over 90%, but relatively

> > comfortable out west where humidity is under 30.

> > Once

> > it gets over 100, it's HOT! No matter what the

> > humidity. I remember in Las Vegas going out

> > barefoot,

> > even the white concrete burned my feet! Here we

> just

> > have to watch out for blacktop. -dz-

> >

> > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > Sharon, People out here say in the sumers it

> is

> > > hot

> > > but it is a dry heat. But when it's 115 to 120

> for

> > > the

> > > high in the day & at 10:00 at night & it's 105.

> It

> > > makes no differance. If it's dry or humid, it's

> > HOT

> > > to

> > > hot to spend very much time. You get in your car

> > > after

> > > it sits in a parking lot for thirty minutes or

> > > longer

> > > you can burn your hands & fingers on the

> steering

> > > wheel. I lived in the midwest the first 27 years

> > of

> > > my

> > > life. The last 21 years here in Az. I'll take

> the

> > > midwest even in the winter over this.

> > > Terry

> > > --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > > > I live in Houston. The winters are great. One

> > day

> > > a

> > > > high of 80, the next day 45. The summers are

> > hot,

> > > > humid, and polluted. But I've been here all my

> > > life

> > > > and it's home. But if anyone tells you you'll

> > get

> > > > used

> > > > to the heat, don't believe them. After 45

> years

> > I

> > > > still hate the heat. One of the few places in

> > the

> > > US

> > > > I

> > > > haven't seen is the midwest and I'd love to go

> > > there

> > > > someday.

> > > > Sharon

> > > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote:

> > > > > terry know hoat you mean about the hi temps

> in

> > > AZ

> > > > > my folks had retired to

> > > > > the footlills section of about 20 east of

> > > Yuma...

> > > > > one april Ken & I went to

> > > > > visit them & when the house got (inside got

> > down

> > > > to

> > > > > about 85 degrees my mom

> > > > > went & turned on the heater--so Ken & I went

> > out

> > > > on

> > > > > the patio & sat out on

> > > > > the swing... Ken was so hot even out there

> he

> > > was

> > > > > just amazed when he looked

> > > > > @ the big thrmometer oustside & it was still

> > 110

> > > > > degrees @ 1AM...needless to

> > > > > say we only stayed a couple of days...BTW

> Ken

> > > was

> > > > > born in Idaho & grew here

> > > > > in Oregon,,,,,he had been thinking that when

> > we

> > > > > retire we'd probably move to

> > > > > AZ as I don't really mind the heat as I grew

> > up

> > > in

> > > > > SO Cal & it woiuld get so

> > > > > hot in the summers in El Cajon that they

> would

> > > fry

> > > > > eggs on the main st.

> > > > > sidewalk...this was done annually evey

> summer

> > > for

> > > > > decades but I don't suppose

> > > > > they do it anymore as El Cajon is no longer

> a

> > > > small

> > > > > town east of San Diego

> > > > > anymore.. it's grown immensely in the 25 yrs

> > > I've

> > > > > lived here in Oregon. but

> > > > > I still miss the nice weather & sunshine /

> no

> > > smog

> > > > > that I grew up

> > > > > with....Originally I came from just outside

> > > > > Cleveland Ohio--but we moved to

> > > > > Cal. in early '50s when I wa about 4 years

> old

> > > > > arlene

> > > > > After going through the midwest plains

> states

> > to

> > > > So

> > > > > Dakota in '00.. loved the

> > > > > summer there even though they did have a

> > tornado

> > > > go

> > > > > through raoid city while

> > > > > we were there--- of course seeing that it

> > > happened

> > > > > in Aug they called it

> > > > > a'micro-burst' but I'll tell you it was very

> > > > > destructive & started all those

> > > > > forest fires that went through the Plains

> > states

> > > > > clear as far west as central

> > > > > WA We were on a m/c & had a very hard time

> > > > keeping

> > > > > outta all the smoke in

> > > > > those 5 staes we went through!! We rode out

> > > very

> > > > > early from Rapid

> > > > > City(storming every evening & alll night

> long

> > > for

> > > > > about 7-8 days but after

> > > > > the first 5 days we noticed the that the

> > storms

> > > > > would die down from about

> > > > > 4am4pm Ao we bugged out but had to ride

> clear

> > > to

> > > > > western Montana before we

> > > > > could stop for a night...we rode aboit 14

> > hours

> > > > that

> > > > > days & were plum

> > > > > tuckered out when we did stop!!

> > > > > arlene

> > > > > Terry Long wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dz the summers here are very trying,

> Our

> > > high

> > > > > temps

> > > > > > go over 100 in late April or early May &

> > stays

> > > > > there

> > > > > > until late September or early October. For

> > > > several

> > > > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to

> the

> > > mid

> > > > > 90's.

> > > > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> > > loved

> > > > it

> > > > > out

> > > > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact

> > that

> > > > the

> > > > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from

> 1,500,000

> > to

> > > > > over

> > > > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to

> move

> > > > back

> > > > > to

> > > > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> > > 10,000'.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters

>

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What's really scarey is I live in a city of over

3,000,000 and when I go to the pharmacy they know me

by name. Between me, my husband and 5 kids, I'm there

a lot.

Sharon

--- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> Machelle When I go back to Central MO, Susy & I

> go

> to the town " Hallsvile Pop, 1000 " were I was partly

> raised in People that are my age & older know's who

> my

> parents & grandparents Aunts & Uncals & so no are.

> The

> same thing when go to the small town Pop 2000.

> Another

> thing if you bank in small town bamk when you walk

> in

> they know you by name & call you by name as you walk

> into the bank. I like that.

> Terry

> --- Machelle <catkrazy@...> wrote:

> > When I sent in the population for ville, I

> > was wrong. That is for the

> > whole county, which consists of about 8

> > towns....with ville as the

> > county seat. Still it sounds like your town is

> alot

> > smaller than where I'm

> > at. I'm not sure I could live there...already

> here

> > everyone knows your

> > business.....can't imagine how it would be there.

> >

> >

> > Re: [ ] Custody

> Battles

> > >

> > > We're about 100,000 here in Green Bay. I

> remember

> > > noticing when I flew into Phoenix one time, all

> > the

> > > swimming pools really struck me from the air. I

> > guess

> > > you need them there... -dz-

> > >

> > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > Dz the summers here are very trying, Our

> high

> > > > temps

> > > > go over 100 in late April or early May & stays

> > there

> > > > until late September or early October. For

> > several

> > > > weeks in there our lows only dip down to the

> mid

> > > > 90's.

> > > > For our first ten years out here Susy & I

> loved

> > it

> > > > out

> > > > here. The Hot summers along with the fact that

> > the

> > > > Phoenix Metro Area has grown from 1,500,000 to

> > over

> > > > 4,000,000. We are tried of it & want to move

> > back to

> > > > the Midwest. To a small town " less then

> 10,000'.

> > > > Terry

> > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > I like it here. Even though the winters can

> be

> > a

> > > > bit

> > > > > trying at times. The forests and lakes make

> up

> > for

> > > > > it,

> > > > > especially if you like fishing & hunting.

> > -dz-

> > > > >

> > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dz for the last 21 years I have lived in

> > the

> > > > not

> > > > > > so

> > > > > > great Southwest " just outside of Phoenix

> AZ "

> > > > > before

> > > > > > that I lived 27 years in the GREAT midwest

> > " Mo &

> > > > > > Il " .

> > > > > > The day after I Retire I will have my

> house

> > sold

> > > > &

> > > > > > will be backing the U-Hall up to my front

> > door &

> > > > > > heading back to the Great Midwest.

> > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> > > > > > > Where are you again, Terry? I go deer

> > hunting

> > > > > > pretty

> > > > > > > near the Mississippi, it forms the

> western

> > > > > border

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > Wisconsin. -dz-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > If I lived a little closer to the

> > > > Mississippi

> > > > > > > > river.

> > > > > > > > I would be there anytime you asked I'm

> > so

> > > > > tired

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > S.O.B's like this, I see red. I have

> > seen

> > > > > first

> > > > > > > hand

> > > > > > > > what it does to you ladies & the poor

> > kids

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > stuck in the middle.

> > > > > > > > Terry

> > > > > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > > > > > > > I was a corrections officer in an

> all

> > male

> > > > > > > > facility

> > > > > > > > > for over a year!!!!!

> > > > > > > > > LOL..No I'm not scared but I sure am

> > tired

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > BS

> > > > > > > > > all the time and having

> > > > > > > > > to fight with him..It's someone

> else's

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Eunice Louisiana and the humidity is bad here..Not too far from you..My mother-in-law is from Beaumont...

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I'm in Houston, where are you.

Sharon

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> If yall want some humidity come on down to the south

> where it is VERY

> humid!!!

>

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I guess you have giant mosquitos like we do.

Sharon

--- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> Eunice Louisiana and the humidity is bad here..Not

> too far from you..My

> mother-in-law is from Beaumont...

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You may have giant mosquitos but we have them in quantity...Huge amounts swarming ya...We always say they will carry us off one day.LOL

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The mosquito is the state bird here in Wisconsin.

-dz

--- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> I guess you have giant mosquitos like we do.

> Sharon

> --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > Eunice Louisiana and the humidity is bad here..Not

> > too far from you..My

> > mother-in-law is from Beaumont...

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There is a town south of Houston that actually has a

mosquito festival.

Sharn

--- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote:

> The mosquito is the state bird here in Wisconsin.

> -dz

>

> --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote:

> > I guess you have giant mosquitos like we do.

> > Sharon

> > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote:

> > > Eunice Louisiana and the humidity is bad

> here..Not

> > > too far from you..My

> > > mother-in-law is from Beaumont...

> > >

> >

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