Milk Thistle

August 20, 2006

Re: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle

NICE POST. JUST REMEMBER, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE SYMPTOMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOUR CELLS IN YOUR LIVER ARE STILL BEING ATTACKED DAILY BY THE VIRUS. NOT TO BUSRT YOUR BUBBLE. KEEP GETTING ON WITH GETTING ON.

TINA Barbara <barbarac102 > wrote:

Hi Kerry,

I think most people know that. I don't have symptoms either but there are plenty also who don't.

How long have you been diagnosed? And what are you taking?

BarbaraKerry12155AOL wrote:

I was so happy to see your post Ron! I take herbs too and I feel just fine and it is so refreshing to see a positive post from a fellow hepper - I'm just not sick and it's hard to fit in these groups if you feel just fine - Thanks! - Kerry

I know that probably sounds awful to a lot of you out there but there are people with Hep C running around that aren't sick.

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August 20, 2006

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Hi Kerry,

I think most people know that. I don't have symptoms either but there are plenty also who don't.

How long have you been diagnosed? And what are you taking?

BarbaraKerry12155AOL wrote:

I was so happy to see your post Ron! I take herbs too and I feel just fine and it is so refreshing to see a positive post from a fellow hepper - I'm just not sick and it's hard to fit in these groups if you feel just fine - Thanks! - Kerry

I know that probably sounds awful to a lot of you out there but there are people with Hep C running around that aren't sick.

Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

September 13, 2006

neither...I have the ability to read and evaluate data and the studies

which generated the data....If you have anything to post that counters

what I've posted have at it.....otherwise your feeble attempt at an ad

hominem attack is duly noted!

> Are you a doctor, or do you just work for one of the major drug

companies "

> r.e.b.

September 12, 2007

Hi, Pam,

I haven't been all that careful about it. I usually use the Vitamin

World brand. I also bought some powdered whole herb, but haven't

bothered to switch to it yet.

And I raised a bunch this year - pretty plants, pretty flowers.

D.

Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote:

>

> I would like to get some milk thistle & get started on it but am at a

> loss as to what kind & what brand. Can anyone help, please?

> Pam

September 12, 2007

Pam, sorry for my delay in answering. Please, do a search here, you'll

find most of the stuff discussed.

Buhner recommends only standardized milk thistle.

I can't recommend any brand as I buy here in health stores in Germany.

Selma

September 15, 2007

I get mine in bulk from 1st Chinese Herbs.

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Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote:

I would like to get some milk thistle & get started on it but am at a

loss as to what kind & what brand. Can anyone help, please?

Pam

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From: Gach <gary.gach@...>Subject: [ ] milk thistlehepatitis Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 9:46 AM

make sure it says it's standardizedi also hear the body doesn't retain it so taking it three times a day is goodi think 375mgs each time might be good-- gary gachhttp://www.redroom. com/author/ gary-g-gachhttp://blogs. psychologytoday. com/blog/ where-buddha- meets-freudhttp://www.tricycle .com/web- exclusive/ riches-a- different- market

August 23, 2009

Jay, You have no evidence at all that milk thistle helps the kidneys. This

person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research

it.

---purpleffoxglove

From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium

Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:39 AM

Milk thistle good for kidneys? I did not know.......Good news!

For those low blood sugar folks, Cytosport (MuscleMilk) just came out with

Monster Milk....2 scoops 50 GR Protein!

Jay

Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium

bananas ect very important for HBP ......have you used milk thistle too ,

you can order in bulk cheap ....grind up in coffee mill and put in food ect

...what's good for liver should be good for kidneys ...In a message dated

8/23/2009 7:29:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, purpleffoxglove

writes:

tnkrbell, Don't avoid potassium. (i think). That's only for confirmed,

fairly serious Chronic Kidney Disease. You (probably?) aren't that bad yet.

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August 23, 2009

Purple,

What do you think is best for kidneys?

Jay

Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium

bananas ect very important for HBP ......have you used milk thistle too ,

you can order in bulk cheap ....grind up in coffee mill and put in food ect

...what's good for liver should be good for kidneys ...In a message dated

8/23/2009 7:29:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, purpleffoxglove

writes:

tnkrbell, Don't avoid potassium. (i think). That's only for confirmed,

fairly serious Chronic Kidney Disease. You (probably?) aren't that bad yet.

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August 23, 2009

Cornsilk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe ( not

expensive) or tea.3 caps a day.

August 24, 2009

Look in to Alisma, I gave it to hubby once when he had a very high creatinine

(indicates renal shutdown) it pulled him out of whatever caused it. Didn't need

it again.

>

> Purple,

>

> What do you think is best for kidneys?

> Jay

> Re: [ ]milk thistle

>

> Jay, You have no evidence at all that milk thistle helps the kidneys. This

person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research

it.

> ---purpleffoxglove

>

August 24, 2009

corn silk is a great diuretic but be careful if you are on any diuretics

already and always drink plenty of water so you don't get dehydrated

.........its a catch 22

In a message dated 8/24/2009 7:53:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

k23la@... writes:

Cornsilk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe (

not expensive) or tea.3 caps a day.

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August 24, 2009

you can also get it from your corn if it hasn't been treated its dry's well

and can be used in tea save your self some money

In a message dated 8/24/2009 7:53:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

k23la@... writes:

Corn silk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe (

not expensive) or tea.3 caps a day.

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August 24, 2009

" This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should

research it "

Actually I have researched it. I would never post that kind of info without

doing my research first...and I would never take a supplement or abx without

first researching that either. I generally use Pubmed to start with then I check

other sources as well.

Here are a few links to some clinical research involving milk thistle and renal

activity (the kidney):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19191214?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136217?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17803742?ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Take Care,

Chris

August 25, 2009

Milk thistle is usually associated with liver support. From what I understand,

the primary action of silymarin is to bind toxins into an inert chemical

structure that is easily excreted through the urine. While cornsilk may act as

an excellent diuretic, it's not going to bind to some toxins to help excrete

them like silymarin does. Perhaps the two might work well in conjunction, one to

bind toxins and the other to help wash them out. With a reasonable amount of

water, of course.

>

> " This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should

research it "

>

> Actually I have researched it. I would never post that kind of info without

doing my research first...and I would never take a supplement or abx without

first researching that either. I generally use Pubmed to start with then I check

other sources as well.

>

> Here are a few links to some clinical research involving milk thistle and

renal activity (the kidney):

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19191214?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136217?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17803742?ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\

trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

>

> Take Care,

> Chris

>

October 5, 2009

I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a 4

year old, 42 lb child would be?

Thanks,

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October 6, 2009

Thanks for sharing this.

Would you or someone using milk thistle mind sharing which brand you're using?

I have a bottle that I picked up at the local co op, but the ingredients are

confusing. THe brand is Oregon's Wild Harvest Milk Thistle and the recommended

doseage is 3 caps per day (adults). It contains Milk thistle seed powdered

extract 240 mg and then also Organic Milk Thistle Seed (silybum marianum) 1260

mg. The last ingredient is confusing to me, and the people at the co op

couldn't quite explain it either. Just wondering if I should purchase another

brand.

Thanks,

From: sunshine369@...

Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:54:52 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle

Files say 20-80 mg per DOSE, 4 times per day. My son is 6 and 43 lbs and we use

about 70 mg per dose.

>

> I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a

4 year old, 42 lb child would be?

>

> Thanks,

>

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October 6, 2009

Thanks for sharing this.

From: eener@...

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:18:28 +0000

Subject: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle

Hi ,

My son is just under age 4. We use Kirkman Milk Thistle (100mg), and give 1 cap

2 times daily.

> >

> > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for

a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

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October 7, 2009

I use a liquid herbal extract, I really notice that it makes a

difference to my skin health. Does the information on your bottle say

anything about 'equivalent to' ? Usually they make sure there is a

standardised amount of the recognised active ingredient which is called

an 'extract', and they will say it is equivalent to a certain amount of

the dried or fresh herb. Or they will say, for example, 1260mg of dried

herb providing 240mg of the active ingredient. The dosage that they

recommend usually indicates how much of the active ingredient is

available, because the recommended dose will provide the amount that has

been shown to help in trials with the herb.

Just in case you want to be more confused.... " Most herbalists recommend

the equivalent of 3 - 18 grams of dried Milk Thistle Fruit (wrongly

known as Seeds) per day for therapeutic purposes (this equates to 75 mg

- 450 mg of the principal active ingredient, Silymarin). If using Milk

Thistle capsules or tablets that have been standardized to contain 70% -

80% Silymarin, the usual dosage is 200 - 1,050 mg per day (this equates

to 160 - 840 mg of Silymarin per day). "

Gail

> >

> > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate

dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

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October 7, 2009

I buy bulk milk thistle seed at the Co-Op and grind it myself in a spice/coffee

grinder.

S S

Re: Milk Thistle

Posted by: " Hanagan " hanagan_8@... rhearhea_8

Tue Oct 6, 2009 8:13 am (PDT)

Thanks for sharing this.

Would you or someone using milk thistle mind sharing which brand you're using? I

have a bottle that I picked up at the local co op, but the ingredients are

confusing. THe brand is Oregon's Wild Harvest Milk Thistle and the recommended

doseage is 3 caps per day (adults). It contains Milk thistle seed powdered

extract 240 mg and then also Organic Milk Thistle Seed (silybum marianum) 1260

mg. The last ingredient is confusing to me, and the people at the co op couldn't

quite explain it either. Just wondering if I should purchase another brand.

Thanks,

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October 7, 2009

Hi Gail,

I use the liquid herbal extract . How much do you give? It says 56 drops for

2000mg and its a 1:1 ratio. My son weighs 72 lbs.

thanks

Kathy

> > >

> > > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate

> dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

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January 12, 2010

ThanksWhere do you get it from?How do you know if the quality is what they say it is?My Dr. says if there is not RDA for an element on the label there is not any way to know the amount and quality is thereRDA = Recommended Daily AllowanceFrom our home to your home, we speak a Blessings, and Success 2010.Walter L. Scheu, Sr. Th.DFrom: MELESIO

RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2@...>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:14 AM

Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy

January 12, 2010

Thank you Tammy

Ive been on MT for about a year.

I havent checked to see if any of my sups are helping, but next month I do labs again, and will see.

love

don in ks

From: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2@...>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 10:14 AM

Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy

January 13, 2010

Good evening everyone. I just joined this group today and I see you are talking about milk thistle. I have been taking MT for maybe 2 years now. I went to the doctor in October and will be going again in April and I'm interested in my lab work also.From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 12:09:15 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Milk Thistle

Thank you Tammy

Ive been on MT for about a year.

I havent checked to see if any of my sups are helping, but next month I do labs again, and will see.

love

don in ks

From: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2verizon (DOT) net>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 10:14 AM

Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy

January 13, 2010

The G I;s main complain about Milk Thistles and alternative meds as they called them is the untested and unregulated areas. was the unregulated factor. Which is a valid point I deal with a health food store here and its family run and they stay in the loop as far a info.So I felt that the vast amount of knowledge and info on this list would be able to help me select the most reputable makers ok MK. I know some of you have some great experience and and seeking to pick you collective brains.So which firm has the best track record on quallity control?????????Yep Amway has always been a leader in the natural/organic vits and supplements....From our home to your home, we speak a Blessings, and Success 2010.Walter L. Scheu, Sr. Th.DFrom: MELESIO

RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2verizon (DOT) net>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:14 AM

Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy

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