Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle NICE POST. JUST REMEMBER, YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE SYMPTOMS BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOUR CELLS IN YOUR LIVER ARE STILL BEING ATTACKED DAILY BY THE VIRUS. NOT TO BUSRT YOUR BUBBLE. KEEP GETTING ON WITH GETTING ON. TINA Barbara <barbarac102 > wrote: Hi Kerry, I think most people know that. I don't have symptoms either but there are plenty also who don't. How long have you been diagnosed? And what are you taking? BarbaraKerry12155AOL wrote: I was so happy to see your post Ron! I take herbs too and I feel just fine and it is so refreshing to see a positive post from a fellow hepper - I'm just not sick and it's hard to fit in these groups if you feel just fine - Thanks! - Kerry I know that probably sounds awful to a lot of you out there but there are people with Hep C running around that aren't sick. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. "PEACE O UT" Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Re: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle Hi Kerry, I think most people know that. I don't have symptoms either but there are plenty also who don't. How long have you been diagnosed? And what are you taking? BarbaraKerry12155AOL wrote: I was so happy to see your post Ron! I take herbs too and I feel just fine and it is so refreshing to see a positive post from a fellow hepper - I'm just not sick and it's hard to fit in these groups if you feel just fine - Thanks! - Kerry I know that probably sounds awful to a lot of you out there but there are people with Hep C running around that aren't sick. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2006 Report Share Posted September 13, 2006 neither...I have the ability to read and evaluate data and the studies which generated the data....If you have anything to post that counters what I've posted have at it.....otherwise your feeble attempt at an ad hominem attack is duly noted! > Are you a doctor, or do you just work for one of the major drug companies " > r.e.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Hi, Pam, I haven't been all that careful about it. I usually use the Vitamin World brand. I also bought some powdered whole herb, but haven't bothered to switch to it yet. And I raised a bunch this year - pretty plants, pretty flowers. D. Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote: > > I would like to get some milk thistle & get started on it but am at a > loss as to what kind & what brand. Can anyone help, please? > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 Pam, sorry for my delay in answering. Please, do a search here, you'll find most of the stuff discussed. Buhner recommends only standardized milk thistle. I can't recommend any brand as I buy here in health stores in Germany. Selma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 I get mine in bulk from 1st Chinese Herbs. ### Pam Norman <pam_norman@...> wrote: I would like to get some milk thistle & get started on it but am at a loss as to what kind & what brand. Can anyone help, please? Pam --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 I broke out in major hives ............. J. Povlitz From: Gach <gary.gach@...>Subject: [ ] milk thistlehepatitis Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 9:46 AM make sure it says it's standardizedi also hear the body doesn't retain it so taking it three times a day is goodi think 375mgs each time might be good-- gary gachhttp://www.redroom. com/author/ gary-g-gachhttp://blogs. psychologytoday. com/blog/ where-buddha- meets-freudhttp://www.tricycle .com/web- exclusive/ riches-a- different- market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Jay, You have no evidence at all that milk thistle helps the kidneys. This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research it. ---purpleffoxglove From: Jay A. Rovert <jay12@...> Subject: Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 7:39 AM  Milk thistle good for kidneys? I did not know.......Good news! For those low blood sugar folks, Cytosport (MuscleMilk) just came out with Monster Milk....2 scoops 50 GR Protein! Jay Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium bananas ect very important for HBP ......have you used milk thistle too , you can order in bulk cheap ....grind up in coffee mill and put in food ect ...what's good for liver should be good for kidneys ...In a message dated 8/23/2009 7:29:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, purpleffoxglove writes: tnkrbell, Don't avoid potassium. (i think). That's only for confirmed, fairly serious Chronic Kidney Disease. You (probably?) aren't that bad yet. ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd =JulystepsfooterNO1 15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Purple, What do you think is best for kidneys? Jay Re: [ ] don't avoid potassium bananas ect very important for HBP ......have you used milk thistle too , you can order in bulk cheap ....grind up in coffee mill and put in food ect ...what's good for liver should be good for kidneys ...In a message dated 8/23/2009 7:29:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, purpleffoxglove writes: tnkrbell, Don't avoid potassium. (i think). That's only for confirmed, fairly serious Chronic Kidney Disease. You (probably?) aren't that bad yet. ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd =JulystepsfooterNO1 15) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Cornsilk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe ( not expensive) or tea.3 caps a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Look in to Alisma, I gave it to hubby once when he had a very high creatinine (indicates renal shutdown) it pulled him out of whatever caused it. Didn't need it again. > > Purple, > > What do you think is best for kidneys? > Jay > Re: [ ]milk thistle > > > Jay, You have no evidence at all that milk thistle helps the kidneys. This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research it. > ---purpleffoxglove > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 corn silk is a great diuretic but be careful if you are on any diuretics already and always drink plenty of water so you don't get dehydrated .........its a catch 22 In a message dated 8/24/2009 7:53:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k23la@... writes: Cornsilk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe ( not expensive) or tea.3 caps a day. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 you can also get it from your corn if it hasn't been treated its dry's well and can be used in tea save your self some money In a message dated 8/24/2009 7:53:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k23la@... writes: Corn silk is good for kidneys. You can getcapsules in the vitamin shoppe ( not expensive) or tea.3 caps a day. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 " This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research it " Actually I have researched it. I would never post that kind of info without doing my research first...and I would never take a supplement or abx without first researching that either. I generally use Pubmed to start with then I check other sources as well. Here are a few links to some clinical research involving milk thistle and renal activity (the kidney): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19191214?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136217?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17803742?ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum Take Care, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Milk thistle is usually associated with liver support. From what I understand, the primary action of silymarin is to bind toxins into an inert chemical structure that is easily excreted through the urine. While cornsilk may act as an excellent diuretic, it's not going to bind to some toxins to help excrete them like silymarin does. Perhaps the two might work well in conjunction, one to bind toxins and the other to help wash them out. With a reasonable amount of water, of course. > > " This person is speculating without any evidence whatsoever. Someone should research it " > > Actually I have researched it. I would never post that kind of info without doing my research first...and I would never take a supplement or abx without first researching that either. I generally use Pubmed to start with then I check other sources as well. > > Here are a few links to some clinical research involving milk thistle and renal activity (the kidney): > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19191214?ordinalpos=2 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16136217?ordinalpos=5 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17803742?ordinalpos=3 & itool=EntrezSystem2.PEn\ trez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum > > Take Care, > Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be? Thanks, _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for sharing this. Would you or someone using milk thistle mind sharing which brand you're using? I have a bottle that I picked up at the local co op, but the ingredients are confusing. THe brand is Oregon's Wild Harvest Milk Thistle and the recommended doseage is 3 caps per day (adults). It contains Milk thistle seed powdered extract 240 mg and then also Organic Milk Thistle Seed (silybum marianum) 1260 mg. The last ingredient is confusing to me, and the people at the co op couldn't quite explain it either. Just wondering if I should purchase another brand. Thanks, From: sunshine369@... Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 04:54:52 +0000 Subject: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle Files say 20-80 mg per DOSE, 4 times per day. My son is 6 and 43 lbs and we use about 70 mg per dose. > > > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be? > > > > Thanks, > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for sharing this. From: eener@... Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 03:18:28 +0000 Subject: [ ] Re: Milk Thistle Hi , My son is just under age 4. We use Kirkman Milk Thistle (100mg), and give 1 cap 2 times daily. > > > > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be? > > > > Thanks, > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I use a liquid herbal extract, I really notice that it makes a difference to my skin health. Does the information on your bottle say anything about 'equivalent to' ? Usually they make sure there is a standardised amount of the recognised active ingredient which is called an 'extract', and they will say it is equivalent to a certain amount of the dried or fresh herb. Or they will say, for example, 1260mg of dried herb providing 240mg of the active ingredient. The dosage that they recommend usually indicates how much of the active ingredient is available, because the recommended dose will provide the amount that has been shown to help in trials with the herb. Just in case you want to be more confused.... " Most herbalists recommend the equivalent of 3 - 18 grams of dried Milk Thistle Fruit (wrongly known as Seeds) per day for therapeutic purposes (this equates to 75 mg - 450 mg of the principal active ingredient, Silymarin). If using Milk Thistle capsules or tablets that have been standardized to contain 70% - 80% Silymarin, the usual dosage is 200 - 1,050 mg per day (this equates to 160 - 840 mg of Silymarin per day). " Gail > > > > > > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I buy bulk milk thistle seed at the Co-Op and grind it myself in a spice/coffee grinder. S S Re: Milk Thistle Posted by: " Hanagan " hanagan_8@... rhearhea_8 Tue Oct 6, 2009 8:13 am (PDT) Thanks for sharing this. Would you or someone using milk thistle mind sharing which brand you're using? I have a bottle that I picked up at the local co op, but the ingredients are confusing. THe brand is Oregon's Wild Harvest Milk Thistle and the recommended doseage is 3 caps per day (adults). It contains Milk thistle seed powdered extract 240 mg and then also Organic Milk Thistle Seed (silybum marianum) 1260 mg. The last ingredient is confusing to me, and the people at the co op couldn't quite explain it either. Just wondering if I should purchase another brand. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------ Click now for prescreened plumbing contractors. Plumber http://tagline.excite.com/c?cp=_R2mZEKs812ZANeBY2dfMAAAKZRr_2tbQBaG-3loGUsiTeHAA\ AYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd0S58Gs= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hi Gail, I use the liquid herbal extract . How much do you give? It says 56 drops for 2000mg and its a 1:1 ratio. My son weighs 72 lbs. thanks Kathy > > > > > > > > > I want to add milk thistle. Does anyone know what an appropriate > dosage for a 4 year old, 42 lb child would be? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 ThanksWhere do you get it from?How do you know if the quality is what they say it is?My Dr. says if there is not RDA for an element on the label there is not any way to know the amount and quality is thereRDA = Recommended Daily AllowanceFrom our home to your home, we speak a Blessings, and Success 2010.Walter L. Scheu, Sr. Th.DFrom: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2@...>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:14 AM Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Thank you Tammy Ive been on MT for about a year. I havent checked to see if any of my sups are helping, but next month I do labs again, and will see. love don in ks From: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2@...>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 10:14 AM Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Good evening everyone. I just joined this group today and I see you are talking about milk thistle. I have been taking MT for maybe 2 years now. I went to the doctor in October and will be going again in April and I'm interested in my lab work also.From: Christ <ludichrist2000@...> Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 12:09:15 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Milk Thistle Thank you Tammy Ive been on MT for about a year. I havent checked to see if any of my sups are helping, but next month I do labs again, and will see. love don in ks From: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2verizon (DOT) net>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 10:14 AM Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The G I;s main complain about Milk Thistles and alternative meds as they called them is the untested and unregulated areas. was the unregulated factor. Which is a valid point I deal with a health food store here and its family run and they stay in the loop as far a info.So I felt that the vast amount of knowledge and info on this list would be able to help me select the most reputable makers ok MK. I know some of you have some great experience and and seeking to pick you collective brains.So which firm has the best track record on quallity control?????????Yep Amway has always been a leader in the natural/organic vits and supplements....From our home to your home, we speak a Blessings, and Success 2010.Walter L. Scheu, Sr. Th.DFrom: MELESIO RODRIGUEZ <tammyrod2verizon (DOT) net>Subject: [ ] Milk Thistle Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:14 AM Hi Walter and Don I have been taking Milk Thistle for 4 years and i notice a differents in my ALT and my all around health when i don't take it. God Bless,tammy The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Get it Now for Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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