Transfer factor

[Guest guest]

Thanks. But if transfer factor is specific to a certain virus, how come

when you go to buy it (immunitytoday.com) it mentions 10 different viruses

but you don't choose which one you have? It's the same product for all

10.

Cindi

luke@...

07/07/00 07:33 PM

Please respond to

egroups

cc:

Subject: Re: Transfer Factor

> I'm confused. I was told by my doctor that Transfer Factor for

HHV6

was

> $270 per month. Now I'm hearing $50 per month. Are we talking

about the

> same thing?

>

> Cindi

>

Nope, not the same thing. The product for $50/mo is best understood

as a general immune stimulant. It is targeted at the mass market,

not

necessarily at people with specific immune problems or infections.

The product at $270 is called a targeted or antigen specific transfer

factor. It provides your immune system with specific information on

how to attack a pathogen that I assume you have tested positive for.

If you can't afford the HHV6 targeted TF, the cheaper brand is better

than nothing, as it has been show to stimulate the activity of NK

cells. Nk cells are our primary way of fighting viral infections.

At

least some people are reporting dramatic improvement using the

antigen

specific TF, whereas there is no information I know of yet regarding

the 4Life brand with CFS.

TF is generally a long term therapy, so it gets expensive after a

while. Immupro is supposed to produce the same result with HHV6 IF

you can tolerate a high enough dose.

Luke

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In a message dated 7/10/00 7:13:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jfloyd123@... writes:

<< The product I am using is from Chisolm Labs. They do

have several different types, one a polyvalent that

covers a broad spectrum of antigens and three others

for Immune Maintenance (Herpes 1 & 2, EBV, CMV, HHV6,

HIV1, Candida, TB), CF (EBV, HHV6, Candida,

Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, Cell Wall Deficiency, Lyme),

and HP (Hepatitis A, B, and C). I buy this from

Dynamune Labs at www. dynamune.com. I'm using the

broad spectrum product for $25/month until I get the

results of my Lyme and other tests.

Best, Jennie F. >>

Hi Jennie, which one are you using from Chisolm Labs? I was thinking of

ordering there candida one and the immunfactor #2 for cfs. Are you noticing

any improvement?

[Guest guest]

Cindi,

Because the Transfer Factor is specific to EACH of the 10. There is no

theoretical limit to how many " specifities " can be in any particular

TF. All TF contains specific info against a huge number of bugs. With the

generic TF products, the problem is we don't know WHICH bugs it is active

against. With the specific TFs we know that they are active against AT

LEAST the listed bugs; they will also be active against an unknown number

of other bugs.

Hope this helps,

n

At 10:29 11/07/00, you wrote:

>Thanks. But if transfer factor is specific to a certain virus, how come

>when you go to buy it (immunitytoday.com) it mentions 10 different viruses

>but you don't choose which one you have? It's the same product for all

>10.

>

>Cindi

n

Tel/Fax +61-2-6239 6226

Canberra, Australia

[Guest guest]

Hi all -

The product I am using is from Chisolm Labs. They do

have several different types, one a polyvalent that

covers a broad spectrum of antigens and three others

for Immune Maintenance (Herpes 1 & 2, EBV, CMV, HHV6,

HIV1, Candida, TB), CF (EBV, HHV6, Candida,

Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, Cell Wall Deficiency, Lyme),

and HP (Hepatitis A, B, and C). I buy this from

Dynamune Labs at www. dynamune.com. I'm using the

broad spectrum product for $25/month until I get the

results of my Lyme and other tests.

Best, Jennie F.

--- canderson@... wrote:

> Thanks. But if transfer factor is specific to a

> certain virus, how come

> when you go to buy it (immunitytoday.com) it

> mentions 10 different viruses

> but you don't choose which one you have? It's the

> same product for all

> 10.

>

> Cindi

>

>

>

>

>

> luke@...

> 07/07/00 07:33 PM

> Please respond to

>

>

> egroups

> cc:

> Subject: Re:

> Transfer Factor

>

>

> > I'm confused. I was told by my doctor that

> Transfer Factor for

> HHV6

> was

> > $270 per month. Now I'm hearing $50 per month.

> Are we talking

> about the

> > same thing?

> >

> > Cindi

> >

> Nope, not the same thing. The product for $50/mo is

> best understood

> as a general immune stimulant. It is targeted at

> the mass market,

> not

> necessarily at people with specific immune problems

> or infections.

> The product at $270 is called a targeted or antigen

> specific transfer

> factor. It provides your immune system with

> specific information on

> how to attack a pathogen that I assume you have

> tested positive for.

>

> If you can't afford the HHV6 targeted TF, the

> cheaper brand is better

> than nothing, as it has been show to stimulate the

> activity of NK

> cells. Nk cells are our primary way of fighting

> viral infections.

> At

> least some people are reporting dramatic improvement

> using the

> antigen

> specific TF, whereas there is no information I know

> of yet regarding

> the 4Life brand with CFS.

>

> TF is generally a long term therapy, so it gets

> expensive after a

> while. Immupro is supposed to produce the same

> result with HHV6 IF

> you can tolerate a high enough dose.

>

> Luke

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

To All:

Immunity Today's TF Formula 560 is antigen-specific ONLY to two Herpes

viruses: HHV-6 and

CMV. NO OTHERS. The other viruses are simply listed at their Website,

probably to confuse the FDA.

[Guest guest]

Ah, so they have " infected " the cows with ALL these viruses. Yes, that

helps.

Thanks.

Cindi

n <jrobinso@...>

07/10/00 06:33 PM

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egroups

cc:

Subject: Re: Re: Transfer Factor

Cindi,

Because the Transfer Factor is specific to EACH of the 10. There is no

theoretical limit to how many " specifities " can be in any particular

TF. All TF contains specific info against a huge number of bugs. With

the

generic TF products, the problem is we don't know WHICH bugs it is active

against. With the specific TFs we know that they are active against AT

LEAST the listed bugs; they will also be active against an unknown number

of other bugs.

Hope this helps,

n

At 10:29 11/07/00, you wrote:

>Thanks. But if transfer factor is specific to a certain virus, how come

>when you go to buy it (immunitytoday.com) it mentions 10 different

viruses

>but you don't choose which one you have? It's the same product for all

>10.

>

>Cindi

n

Tel/Fax +61-2-6239 6226

Canberra, Australia

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[Guest guest]

I have been lurking for awhile but today I felt a need to reply to a

couple of messages. So hello to all. I'm enjoying this group and I am

learning alot.

But I am very confused about somethig. Could someone explain simply the

use of Transfor Factors? There are so many talked about. How would I

decide which to us and where would I go for these?

I am sorry I have been in brain fog very badly lately.

Thanks for the help.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

Here is some detailed information on Transfer Factor. There are several

companies which distribute TF. I am associated with 4Life Research, which as

regular TF and Transfer Factor Plus, which contains both antigen specific and

non specific transfer factors.

There are also companies who distribute transfer factors which may be " specific "

to a particular pathogen. Let me know if you need any more info.

What is Transfer Factor™?

Transfer Factor™ is an all natural substance that works by " teaching " your own

immune system to identify infectious agents that attack your body every day

(bacteria, viruses, fungus, and parasites, and malignancies)

How does Transfer Factor™ work?

Transfer Factor™ provides " immune data " collected from the mother’s own immune

system and then passed on to her baby. The mother transfers valuable immunity

information to be used by the new life in staving off infection and disease.

These powerful immunity agents have been identified and are called transfer

factors. To keep your body healthy, your immune system must do three very

important things each time your body comes in contact with a pathogen: First it

must first recognize the pathogen as a threat to the body; second, it must then

attack and kill off the threat; and third, it must remember that pathogen so

that your body can rid itself quickly of it the next time it is attacked.

It is the identification process of the immune system that is so critical.If

your body can identify a pathogen quickly, it can mount a response against it

quickly, thus keeping substances that provide this information. By transferring

information from cell to cell, transfer factors serve as " teachers " of new

cells, thereby ensuring a stronger immune system capable of withstanding our

often harsh environment.*

Transfer Factor Plus - The Next Generation

Transfer Factor Plus is a scientifically advanced immune system support that

combines the power of Transfer Factor XF (4Life's proprietary transfer factor

extract) with new components developed through research studies. These are

listed below.

ThyRX™ is 4Life™'s proprietary thymus complex which contains thymic factors to

support the immune T-cells.

Cordyvant™ is a proprietary blend of glyconutrients (IP6, Cordyceps, Maitake,

and Shiitake mushrooms, Beta Glucans and Aloe) that enhance the innate immune

system, our first line of defense in the war against invading pathogens.

Glyconutrients also activate B-cells (another component of the immune system) to

produce antibodies without the help of T-cells.

Ron Santoro

http://home.earthlink.net/~rsfriar/index.html

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saturn3@... wrote:

I have been lurking for awhile but today I felt a need to reply to a

couple of messages. So hello to all. I'm enjoying this group and I am

learning alot.

But I am very confused about somethig. Could someone explain simply the

use of Transfor Factors? There are so many talked about. How would I

decide which to us and where would I go for these?

I am sorry I have been in brain fog very badly lately.

Thanks for the help.

Cheryl

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[Guest guest]

hi cheryl! glad to see you! this is another explanation for the

transfer factor - this was posted by sean on this list in early april, i

think.

the transfer factor being used in a trial is Formula 560, 3 capsules a

day, http://www.immunitytoday.com. it's expensive - if you can buy 9

bottles at a time (you need 3 a month for one person - put the rest in

your freezer), you get a $10 discount per bottle - it'll run you 239.85

a month (plus s & h). if you can't, it'll run you 269.85 a month (plus

s & h).

--------------------------

Transfer factor is in fact not an antibody but it is a messenger

molecule that is sent between lymphocytes and educates the receiving

lymphocyte on how to deal with a particular pathogen. It 'transfers'

immunity from one cell to another, consequently its name.

Transfer factor is antigen specific, so if you are taking transfer

factor for HHV-6, the lymphocytes in your body are being trained to

destroy HHV-6. It will have little or no effect on any other pathogen is

in the body. I don't think that antigen specific transfer factor would

be a problem with lupus as it is not a general immune stimulant, but

rather a very specific one.

Colostrum is very rich in transfer factor as this is one of the ways the

mother passes on her immunity to her infant, which has an immature and

uneducated immune system.

Interestingly, there are both activator and suppressor transfer factors.

So in fact you can theoretically use a suppressor transfer factor to

suppress the immune response to certain allergens etc. (I think it has

been done in a few studies).

Transfer factor has the potential to help autoimmune diseases as if the

appropriate suppressor transfer factor could be found, it could be used

to help suppress the errant part of the immune system. Best regards,

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find? " - Agent Dales, X-Files

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debbie s. - dlsherman@...

[Guest guest]

As an FYI, just got off the phone with Dave Berg (Hemex)- in passing

he mentioned that Immunity Today's Transfer Factor is the one that

appears to be showing the best results ...

There are so many talked about. How would I

> decide which to us and where would I go for these?

> Cheryl

[Guest guest]

I am very behind in my email but wanted to thank you for the info on

transfor factor.

I cannot afford to buy anything at this time. In fact, crcumstances have

left me looking at being homeless on Monday unless I truly get a

miracle. I'm no sure where my strength is coming from. Well yes I do. I

just find itdifficult to think the Lord is keeping me moving to pack and

look for some room to afford and yet thigs are not pulling through for

me. Any prayers would be much appreciated. I haven't even received one

call from parents or family to see if I am still alive. I am grateful

for all of you for being there. I pray I can manage to keep this going.

Thanks

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/6/00 4:10:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

melillo3@... writes:

<< " Should you be taking Transfer Factor ? "

The ending paragraph says " The initial study on Immunity Todays TF was a

clinical trial funded by the company which infers bias. To find out whether

this is worth pursuing for those who can't easily pay for the product, the

National CFIDS Foundation has funded a small pilot study of just a handful of

patients who have either ME/CFIDS or GWI.

>>

So are they just started this study or are the results in already? Thank

you,

[Guest guest]

Thanks a lot Jennie,

I was going to ask if anyone felt any practicle benefits taking Transfer

Factor.

What is in the TF i.e is it for Mycoplasma or is it a general purpose one

for people with immune disfunctions?

Thanks

Adam

> , yes, its #2, and my doctor advised me to up it

> to 3 per day. I gradually increased the dosage over a

> week and am starting to notice a difference in my

> energy level already.

>

> Hope it helps - Jennie

> --- lbinujrsy@... wrote:

> > In a message dated 8/6/00 5:38:16 PM Pacific

> > Daylight Time,

> > jfloyd123@... writes:

> >

> >

> > Are you talking about the Chisolm TF? I take that

> > one as well. I think its

> > transfer factor #2, right? How much did you

> > increase it to? The bottle says

> > to take one a day, do you take more then this?

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I have been on 560 since April or so. I think I'm a little better as a

result. The die-off has been pretty severe. The best, most visible result

has been that since I started on it, I immediately stopped having chest

pain. My chest pain was always mild, but I think it may have been the

result of a virus attacking cardiac tissue - pretty scary.

I have confirmed CMV, which 560 is active against. I haven't had the HHV6

test yet - I came back negative from Immunosciences Lab, but apparently the

only good test is from Viracor.

Transfer Factor

Hi All,

Can any of you give me your thoughts or experience about a product called

Transfer Factor and whether it would be useful for bacterial or viral

infections (Mycoplasma, CMV, HHV-6, etc.). Also, I have read about Formula

560, which is much more expensive then Transfer Factor. Any thoughts on it

also or anybody who has used either of these products? Thank You!

_________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Lucy,

my whole family has been using 4Life's Transfer Factor for over a

year now with excellent results. I got rid of bad fungal infection,

my brother has been helped with his asthma problem, and my mother has

found relief from Fibro(with the help of additional nutritionals)

Ron Santoro

http://gift4life.homestead.com/

>

> Transfer Factor

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can any of you give me your thoughts or experience about a product

> called

> Transfer Factor and whether it would be useful for bacterial or

> viral

> infections (Mycoplasma, CMV, HHV-6, etc.). Also, I have read about

> Formula

> 560, which is much more expensive then Transfer Factor. Any

> thoughts on it

> also or anybody who has used either of these products? Thank You!

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

hi lucy! i've had two teenagers on the 560 since feb 9, i've been on it

since mar 18, and i've had a cat on it since sometime in april. i've

been doing periodic updates, and we're probably overdue for one now. if

you go to the experimental list archives and do a search on transfer

factor, they should turn up........

<<< have read about Formula 560, which is much more expensive then

Transfer Factor. Any thoughts on it also or anybody who has used either

of these products? >>>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

" Would they have found nothing, unless nothing was what they wanted to

find? " - Agent Dales, X-Files

@}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

debbie s. - dlsherman@...

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing your experiences Ron.

Could you let us know where you get your TF from and how much you buy it for

and how long it lasts before you have to buy more?

TF seems a really good treatment but the stuff I have been looking at is

really pricey.

Adam

> Lucy,

>

> my whole family has been using 4Life's Transfer Factor for over a

> year now with excellent results. I got rid of bad fungal infection,

> my brother has been helped with his asthma problem, and my mother has

> found relief from Fibro(with the help of additional nutritionals)

>

> Ron Santoro

> http://gift4life.homestead.com/

>

>

>

> >

> > Transfer Factor

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Can any of you give me your thoughts or experience about a product

> > called

> > Transfer Factor and whether it would be useful for bacterial or

> > viral

> > infections (Mycoplasma, CMV, HHV-6, etc.). Also, I have read about

> > Formula

> > 560, which is much more expensive then Transfer Factor. Any

> > thoughts on it

> > also or anybody who has used either of these products? Thank You!

> >

> >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks , Ron, and Debbie concerning your experience with Transfer

Factor and Formula 560. I am currently taking Nutricillin which has 4

ingredients in it: Lysozyme, 60,000unit

Colostrum, 150 mg

Lactoferrin, 60 mg

Olive Leaf Extract, 50 mg

I will stick with that until I get my blood tests back sometime in the next

couple of weeks and see what direction to go. Just looking ahead somewhat

and trying to get information.

Lucy

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[Guest guest]

I just started on " Transfer Factor Plus " by 4-Life. I'm taking 9/day. My dentist

suggested it and my doctor checked it with EAV. It's the only brand that has

tested beneficial for me thus far. I've

tested different Chisolm strains and some from Annimune.

Phil

Lucy Lake

wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------->

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can any of you give me your thoughts or experience about a product called

> Transfer Factor and whether it would be useful for bacterial or viral

> infections (Mycoplasma, CMV, HHV-6, etc.). Also, I have read about Formula

> 560, which is much more expensive then Transfer Factor. Any thoughts on it

> also or anybody who has used either of these products? Thank You!

>

> _____________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I just started on " Transfer Factor Plus " by 4-Life. I'm taking 9/day. My dentist

suggested it and my doctor checked it with EAV. It's the only brand that has

tested beneficial for me thus far. I've

tested different Chisolm strains and some from Annimune.

Phil

Lucy Lake

wrote:-------------------------------------------------------------------->

>

> Hi All,

>

> Can any of you give me your thoughts or experience about a product called

> Transfer Factor and whether it would be useful for bacterial or viral

> infections (Mycoplasma, CMV, HHV-6, etc.). Also, I have read about Formula

> 560, which is much more expensive then Transfer Factor. Any thoughts on it

> also or anybody who has used either of these products? Thank You!

>

> _______________________________________X-Mozilla-Status: 0009

[Guest guest]

From: " Jana Flaherty " <jana138@...>

Date sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:29:35 -0700

Send reply to: cures for canceregroups

Subject: Transfer Factor

> Cliff: this is the independent study that Dr.Darryl See, from the Immune In=

> stitute and the Division of Longevity and Medicine conducted. Notice where =

> some of the nutritional products are that many have a lot of faith in. But=

> then look where transfer factor and transfer factor plus are a 103% and 24=

> 8% increase in NK cell activity. This link will give you all the info.

> http://www.transferfactor.com/study.html

Hi,

I've got nothing against Transfer Factor (I dont sell it), I would just

like

to see it made from New Zealand Cows. The studies on Transfer Factor look

interesting.

moonbeam

[Guest guest]

You get it from immunitytoday.com. It's called Formula 560 and it's very

expensive, about $190 month if you buy in volume. Just recently ordered it

so I don't know how effective it is yet. Chisolm has a TF specifically for

CFS but I haven't had any feedback on it. I have had positive feedback on

the 560. Steve B.

Transfer Factor

> I am interested in trying TF. Can anyone guide me in the right

> directionas far as where they get theirs from and how they have done

> on it? hank you, a

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello -

I've taken the one from Dynamune for Lyme and Herpes

(I think it's their formula #2). It runs about $85

for 30 capsules and the recommended dose is 3 per day.

I noticed a big reaction at first - got cold sores

and increased pain, then nothing after about a week.

I took it for four months and have recently stopped -

this seems to be the recommended dosage period.

Good luck - Jennie

--- a <StarDantzer@...> wrote:

> I am interested in trying TF. Can anyone guide me in

> the right

> directionas far as where they get theirs from and

> how they have done

> on it? hank you, a

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/6/01 5:22:45 AM, tlizzy@... writes:

<< These are the ingredients in the TF Plus, right? My understanding is that

this isn't recommended for anyone w/autoimmune disorders - those folks

are suggested to use just the Transfer Factor (vs the TF Plus). >>

This is true but lyme is not an auto-immune disorder.

'sue in nj'

[Guest guest]

>It is about $50/bottle BUT you only take 2 every morning. The other cos. are

>about $50 but they advise taking up to 6/day.

Actually, some docs treating Lyme (and some patients) swear by

dose adjustment of this product - ie, working the dose upwards

slowly (9 is the highest I've heard about, so far), and then eventually

back down again, to a maintenance dose. (I'm also a distributor.)

>What's in these pills? 3 things, Transfer

>Factor XF--Mother Nature's design to help teach our immune systems how to

>respond to microbial threats. Cordyvant--a proprietary blend of standarized

>glyconutrients (IP-6 **newest anti-cancer**, Cordyceps, Maitake and Shiitake

>mushrooms, Beta Glucans, and Aloe vera extract) that enhance the innate

>immune system. Thyrex-- proprietary thymus ingredient,

These are the ingredients in the TF Plus, right? My understanding is that

this isn't recommended for anyone w/autoimmune disorders - those folks

are suggested to use just the Transfer Factor (vs the TF Plus).

Aloe vera increases tumor necrosis factor (which supposedly is already

increased w/Lyme) - this increase is not a good thing....

Sue

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