Colloidal Silver

[Guest guest]

Yes, Where. Who? How much?

Thanks, Robyn

to Robyn

 

go to Mexico, Tijuana

there is a clinic

they  have a very successful treatment.

let me know if you want more information

[Guest guest]

On Jun 21, 2008, at 12:04 PM, robyn howell wrote:

> I thought you said you had water ionizors, beck and a whole bunch of

> other stuff?

> Thanks, Robyn

>

No, I was just on a forum about the Beck protocol. I only got into

the Colloidal silver part. I never actually read anything definitive

about how to use the whole protocol. Sorry. Information is available

by googling it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Gill,

It's (Ag) probably best reserved for those antiobiotic resistant

bugs, and will cause greying of the skin if used in excess.

I believe honey is also a good prospect in those cases of superficial

infection, (my understanding is that they're using honey in a medical

setting these days....don't know how many or where, though)

The pathogens can't withstand osmotic stress, there is no defense to

it. For the same reason, plain old golden syrup ought to do the same

trick....bit sticky, but better than putting up with MRSA and it's

pathological buddies.

Candida, being a fungus/yeast, sugar wouldn't be a wonderful idea,

but I imagine that silver would 'mangle' several critical enzymes in

a fungus/yeast.

best wishes

Bob

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gill,

just to add my little bit to Bob's- Manuka honey has particularly

excellent anti-bacterial properties, and things like honey have a

dessicating effect on wounds as well.

Wannette

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for these Sheila.

Gill

Here you go Gill - and all of you who have Candida Albicans....

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/tour/fre/default.mspx

http://www.naturalnews.com/010038.html

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/EMSL/Calbicans.pdf

http://www.natural-cancer-cures.com/cures-for-candida.html

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[Guest guest]

That's interesting and useful to know. Not sure that I want the greying skin!

thanks,

Gill

It's (Ag) probably best reserved for those antiobiotic resistant bugs, and will cause greying of the skin if used in excess.I believe honey is also a good prospect in those cases of superficial infection, (my understanding is that they're using honey in a medical setting these days....don't know how many or where, though)The pathogens can't withstand osmotic stress, there is no defense to it. For the same reason, plain old golden syrup ought to do the same trick....bit sticky, but better than putting up with MRSA and it's pathological buddies.Candida, being a fungus/yeast, sugar wouldn't be a wonderful idea, but I imagine that silver would 'mangle' several critical enzymes in a fungus/yeast. best wishesBob>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Wannette, thanks for this.

Gill

just to add my little bit to Bob's- Manuka honey has particularly excellent anti-bacterial properties, and things like honey have a dessicating effect on wounds as well.Wannette

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[Guest guest]

Also ozonated olive oil.

Val

Manuka honey has particularly excellent anti-bacterial properties

[Guest guest]

Lots of people do not believe this (blue skin) can happen. I do believe it, but think that you would need to take lots (cup fulls rather than 10ml or whatever).

For balance I feel that I should also say that lots of people are anti it because it is a metal & I am chelating mercury myself, but my altdoc prescribed this to me while knowing I had a heavy metal problem (live blood test) and I trust him completely so I believe it to be safe for me.

Val

That's interesting and useful to know. Not sure that I want the greying skin!thanks,Gill

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

and now completely off on a tangent- pathogens in fish can be killed

off by increasing/ decreasing the salinity of the water, as you said

microrganisms cannot withstand the osmotic pressure- and this can be

done without killing the fish! there is probably a whole world of

ways to deal with infection without using antibiotics.

Wannette

-- In thyroid treatment , " wannette7 "

<wannette7@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Gill,

> just to add my little bit to Bob's- Manuka honey has particularly

> excellent anti-bacterial properties, and things like honey have a

> dessicating effect on wounds as well.

> Wannette

>

>

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi bob,

As an ex beekeeper ( lost the use of the land for my hives) I have

used honey for infected cuts on myself and my guineapigs with great success

filthy mess so you need a large absorbent dressing. The poor guineapig was

pregnant and had been bitten by one of the others, so she couldn't have

antibiotics. The sugars also get the swelling down too.Active principle

seems to be peroxides as well as some tree resins from the propolis.

Subject: Re: colloidal silver

Hi Gill,

I believe honey is also a good prospect in those cases of superficial

infection, (my understanding is that they're using honey in a medical

setting these days....don't know how many or where, though)

The pathogens can't withstand osmotic stress, there is no defense to

it. For the same reason, plain old golden syrup ought to do the same

trick....bit sticky, but better than putting up with MRSA and it's

pathological buddies.

best wishes

Bob

>

[Guest guest]

Hello robyn,

Utopia Silver makes a good one. I would not use plastic.

Mike

Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:43:50 AM, you wrote:

rh> Does anyone know which is the best kink of colloidal silver and

rh> gold. Are plastic bottles okay or should it be in glass?

rh> Thanks, Robyn

rh>

--

Best regards,

Mike mailto:goldenmike@...

[Guest guest]

Colloidal silver should be stored in airtight green or amber glass bottles and

kept out of direct light. Plastic, as well as exposure to light can cause the

molecules to degrade and clump into larger particles which your body is not able

to use to best effect. If you make your own with distilled water and a good

home kit, you can consistantly produce high quality colloids with the strength

you want (5-10 ppm). I use a resealable Grolsch beer bottle (green glass) after

draining it responsibly.

[Guest guest]

Pre-dated modern anti-biotics. A friend swears by the stuff. Others

are suspicious, as some have turned blue from over-use.

# has been found to be a strong, natural antibiotic and a preventative

against infections. Working as a catalyst, it reportedly disables some ...

www.natureblessedinc.com/shop/index.php

# a suspension of submicroscopic metallic silver particles in a

colloidal base. Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to

argyria, a ...

www.dermatitis-ltd.com/glossary_c.php3

# Colloidal silver is a liquid suspension of microscopic particles of

silver. A colloid is technically defined as particles which remain

suspended ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal silver

There's a colloidal silver list

http://silverlist.org/

>

> In a message dated 9/27/2008 12:04:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

> candidiasis writes:

>

> colloidal silver

> What is this and what is it supposed to do? My cousin is always

telling me

> I need to take this. I am scared to take things I do not know

about-- I have

> pancreatitis and am still making sure my lung cancer is gone.

>

> Thanks

> Ginny

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

...i use up to 4 2oz shots per day to control hep-C. taking more doesn't

seem to be of any additional benefit. i tried 1 liter/day for 4 months and

all that did was make my stomach a little weird.

i must get off my beloved cigar habit & you your cigarettes as really we're

both just spinning our wheels until we do.

for bronchitis and pneumonia i've read lots of success stories with putting

CS in a nebulizer, or ultrasonic humidifier (must be ultrasonic and not

steam vaporizer).

no need to dilute CS, but it's a good idea to drink plenty of water also to

keep it moving through your system. while going nuts from tobacco

withdrawals drinking water and getting vigorous excercise helps a lot.

lately i've been adding 3 drops of 3% H2O2 (food grade - no stablizers

added) to my 2oz shots of CS and find it energizing... there's supposed to

be other benifits but i haven't studied H2O2 enough to be able to speak of

that well. if it sits for very long after the peroxide is added the

peroxide flavor goes away, meaning it's used up in reacting with the larger

silver particles making them smaller or into ionic silver ... which is fine,

but no direct benefit of taking in H2O2. so i add the drops and drink right

away. if the CS hasn't aged at least a few days adding H2O2 will turn it

some colors, most ofter a beautiful inky blue, so if you only make CS in

very small batches for immediate use then don't add the H2O2.

cheers,

bobL

> Colloidal Silver

>

>

> Finally I made some of it with the SP-Lite I got last month. I was

> apprehensive as I'd not read much on the Beck Protocol as you folks

> suggest & didn't have time to read. But my cough was getting worse & I

> didn't want to start on antibiotics again.

> I was hospitalized last May for COPD exacerbation. But I think it was

> because I'd discontinued with my Advair inhalations. I didn't think I

> had asthma but my sister, a doctor, had given it to me when she was

> down here from the US. So after it got over I discontinued it & landed

> in the ICU. But after I started the Advair I was OK again. & after a

> month or two started my daily 20-30 cigarettes again. I've had to take

> antibiotics 2 or 3 times since, whenever my bronchitis becomes bad.

> So today I got some de-mineralized water (they said it was distilled

> water, but I dunno) Put the silver-rods sp-lite on for 2 hours & drank

> 2 oz of it at 5 pm. then an hour back, 12 pm, I had an oz of it. My

> coughing is less now, I think. Hope I've made the colloidal silver

> properly. Please let me know.

> Also how many times a day should I take it, & how many oz (maximum) a

> day can I take? The instructions say 2 oz at a time--but how many oz a

> day? Also do I take it as it is or do I dilute it with water & drink it?

> I hope one of you can let me know.

>

> Thanks

>

> Rajiv

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bob,

I guess I still have the cough. but will continue taking 2-3oz and see

how it goes.

As for smoking, i'm waiting for my phospotadyle choline (lecithin) to

come. It along with tyrosine, 5HTP (tryptophan) and glutamine stops

smoking. The formula's in the book End Your Addiction Now by

Gant. Go to a Borders or B & N and check it out.

I tried it twice & it worked both times. But you have to take the

p-choline for some six months & i had only 4-6 week's suply of it

then. Now I've ordered more this time. Its difficult to get it here in

India.

Rajiv

>

> ..i use up to 4 2oz shots per day to control hep-C. taking more doesn't

> seem to be of any additional benefit. i tried 1 liter/day for 4

months and

> all that did was make my stomach a little weird.

> i must get off my beloved cigar habit & you your cigarettes as

really we're

> both just spinning our wheels until we do.

> for bronchitis and pneumonia i've read lots of success stories with

putting

> CS in a nebulizer, or ultrasonic humidifier (must be ultrasonic and not

> steam vaporizer).

>

> no need to dilute CS, but it's a good idea to drink plenty of water

also to

> keep it moving through your system. while going nuts from tobacco

> withdrawals drinking water and getting vigorous excercise helps a lot.

>

> lately i've been adding 3 drops of 3% H2O2 (food grade - no stablizers

> added) to my 2oz shots of CS and find it energizing... there's

supposed to

> be other benifits but i haven't studied H2O2 enough to be able to

speak of

> that well. if it sits for very long after the peroxide is added the

> peroxide flavor goes away, meaning it's used up in reacting with the

larger

> silver particles making them smaller or into ionic silver ... which

is fine,

> but no direct benefit of taking in H2O2. so i add the drops and

drink right

> away. if the CS hasn't aged at least a few days adding H2O2 will

turn it

> some colors, most ofter a beautiful inky blue, so if you only make CS in

> very small batches for immediate use then don't add the H2O2.

>

> cheers,

> bobL

> > Colloidal Silver

> >

> >

> > Finally I made some of it with the SP-Lite I got last month. I was

> > apprehensive as I'd not read much on the Beck Protocol as you folks

> > suggest & didn't have time to read. But my cough was getting worse & I

> > didn't want to start on antibiotics again.

> > I was hospitalized last May for COPD exacerbation. But I think it was

> > because I'd discontinued with my Advair inhalations. I didn't think I

> > had asthma but my sister, a doctor, had given it to me when she was

> > down here from the US. So after it got over I discontinued it & landed

> > in the ICU. But after I started the Advair I was OK again. & after a

> > month or two started my daily 20-30 cigarettes again. I've had to take

> > antibiotics 2 or 3 times since, whenever my bronchitis becomes bad.

> > So today I got some de-mineralized water (they said it was distilled

> > water, but I dunno) Put the silver-rods sp-lite on for 2 hours & drank

> > 2 oz of it at 5 pm. then an hour back, 12 pm, I had an oz of it. My

> > coughing is less now, I think. Hope I've made the colloidal silver

> > properly. Please let me know.

> > Also how many times a day should I take it, & how many oz (maximum) a

> > day can I take? The instructions say 2 oz at a time--but how many oz a

> > day? Also do I take it as it is or do I dilute it with water &

drink it?

> > I hope one of you can let me know.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Rajiv

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

there are some strange variables in silver making. solar flares and

planetary postions come into play, believe it or not. during intense solar

flares in fall 2006 things went pretty screwy sometimes. i was just getting

started then, so it was partly me for sure.

i find it really hard to get totally consistent results using very

consistent procedures and materials.

recently i had a batch come out pale golden for the first time in a couple

years, for no reason that i can account for... musta got some contaminant in

there i guess.

coffee filter papers, several layers, after the CS has settled down a few

days will remove any black oxides or whatever fallout.

> colloidal silver

>

> greetings: lately when I'm using the silver ingots for CS

> they turn dark and the bubbles that form on the sides seem to

> fall off in dark clusters. The first few times I made the CS

> I could see the silver coming off in small wisps, but now it

> more of chunks. Is this normal or am I doing something

> wrong? thanks so much!

>

> Pamela

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

the much stronger, 1100 ppm that i started with for years, and knocked

out a abcess in my jaw, which antibiotics couldn't get to, it was

almost dark brown...it worked well for everything...but they stopped

making it....or i'd still be using it....it was colloidal and

ionic..something like innovnat.com...but a little larger than the

...00008 or .0008 microns that i am using now...something like .005

microns....never had any problems with it...i liked it because i could

put it on my teeth, or anyplace for local healing and it would stay

put....

do hope my present silveredge new micron maker is as good....

ariella

>

>

> there are some strange variables in silver making. solar flares and

> planetary postions come into play, believe it or not. during intense

> solar

> flares in fall 2006 things went pretty screwy sometimes. i was just

> getting

> started then, so it was partly me for sure.

> i find it really hard to get totally consistent results using very

> consistent procedures and materials.

> recently i had a batch come out pale golden for the first time in a

> couple

> years, for no reason that i can account for... musta got some

> contaminant in

> there i guess.

>

> coffee filter papers, several layers, after the CS has settled down a

> few

> days will remove any black oxides or whatever fallout.

>

> > colloidal silver

> >

> > greetings: lately when I'm using the silver ingots for CS

> > they turn dark and the bubbles that form on the sides seem to

> > fall off in dark clusters. The first few times I made the CS

> > I could see the silver coming off in small wisps, but now it

> > more of chunks. Is this normal or am I doing something

> > wrong? thanks so much!

> >

> > Pamela

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

i don't remember being on that list before, at least not for long.

one oz , four times per day or so. varies with my crazy lack of schedule.

for silver, www.atlasnova.com

check out the new econo but exc performance " pocket puppy " at

www.silverpuppy.com

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of M Ress

Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50 AM

Subject: [ ] colloidal silver

Hi Bob,

Are you the same Bob as on the hepcfordummies list?

They unsubbed me there.

How much colloidal silver are you taking?

I'm looking to make my own generator but haven't found any 9999 wire

yet.

Ress Felton, CA

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that information on the colloidal silver.

I'm going to try it.

Ress Felton, CA

http://safoocat.blogspot.com/--- On Tue, 6/9/09, bob Larson <bobList@...> wrote:

From: bob Larson <bobList@...>Subject: RE: [ ] colloidal silver Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 1:20 PM

i don't remember being on that list before, at least not for long.one oz , four times per day or so. varies with my crazy lack of schedule.for silver, www.atlasnova.comcheck out the new econo but exc performance "pocket puppy" atwww.silverpuppy.com

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee, I know you don't want us to use colloidal silver while on your program.

But I have a couple of comments regarding this substance.

>

> First of all, from what I have read about colloidal silver, all the

instructions say that you have to use distilled water, and you have to use 0.999

(three-nine) or 0.9999 (four-nine) fine SILVER wire (NOT sterling silver).

>

> My understanding is that argyria (blue coloration of skin) is claimed to occur

ONLY when the blue person has failed to use the proper water and/or the proper

silver wire. Usually it is stated that the person used tap water, which is not

the correct stuff to use.

+++Hi Pam. Why even bother with coloidal silver, when there are so many safer

substances to take that do what they claim colloidal silver does?

I agree with Sally Fallon at the Weston A. Price Foundation that no colloidal

minerals products should be taken at anytime by anyone.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I would think that even if one were not going to drink colloidal silver, it

still might be useful to have around as first aid/antiseptic. For example, if I

got a cut or a burn (but would probably not use it on a deep puncture wound).

Pam

> +++Hi Pam. Why even bother with coloidal silver, when there are so many safer

substances to take that do what they claim colloidal silver does?

>

> I agree with Sally Fallon at the Weston A. Price Foundation that no colloidal

minerals products should be taken at anytime by anyone.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I would think that even if one were not going to drink colloidal silver, it

still might be useful to have around as first aid/antiseptic. For example, if I

got a cut or a burn (but would probably not use it on a deep puncture wound).

+++Hi Pam. No, I wouldn't use colloidal silver for anything. There are many

other natural substances that are safer and more effective for cuts or burns.

Aloe gel is great for burns. Mixing hydrogen peroxide and non-chlorinated water

helps with cuts and even deep puncture wounds. Of course there are many others.

My daughter got a nail through her foot which swelled up and was angry and red.

My neighbor came over with her natural remedy, which was non-chlorinated water

and hydrogen peroxide. She soaked her foot in it (can't recall the amount of

H202) and afterward bandages soaked in it were wrapped around her foot. It was

amazing how fast her foot went back to normal.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I think Advanced Colloidal Silver at www.utopiasilver.com is a good and safe

product.

C.

[Guest guest]

do people have silver deficiency? no

This is suppressive just like antibiotics.

Sheri

At 08:21 AM 7/31/2009, you wrote:

>I think Advanced Colloidal Silver at www.utopiasilver.com is a good

>and safe product.

>

> C.

>

>