Colloidal Silver

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VERY well said!!

So thrilled for your wife.

Jay

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> > Now if she stops CS/Rife the symptoms return. Both lyme and

> the foot pain.

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> > We know she isn't cured, but as long as she does her regimen the

> > disease is in remission. She stops, it returns. Its very

> obvious what

> > is working for her.

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> OK, I agree in such a case you can say that it 'works', but

> only to treat symptoms, not as a cure. And even then, you

> never know ... maybe the outcome of the CS/rife would have

> been different if she hadn't started with the Salt/C first ...

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> My problem with such 'treatments' is that maybe they are only

> treating the symptoms, and not addressing the real cause.

> Which may be a bad idea in the long run. Maybe the remission

> only means that symptoms are suppressed; I have the

> impression that this applies for a lot of other 'alternative'

> Lyme treatments.

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> But of course, the same goes for some antibiotics like doxy

> (at less than 200 mg/daily). And sometimes treating symptoms

> instead of the disease (cause) itself is the only option

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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

What, do you think, was the most help with ridding your wife of the fatigue?

Any idea?

Thanks,

judy b

On Sep 17, 2010, at 10:57 AM, wrote:

> Perhaps we are quibbling over nothing.

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> I totally agree there appears to be no cure. Wish I did know of one, but it

> seems even one cyst or L-form missed means a flare-up will be possible.

>

> Best thing about it is by removing her " symptoms " i.e. brain fog, joint

> pain, fatigue etc etc she has regained her normal life. She is now horseback

> riding, able to enjoying her grandkids, bike riding, skiing, skin diving,

> running a home and a small business. (www.VistaViewHealth.com)

>

> She believes it's in remission and not just removal of the symptoms. But

> then isn't that what remission really is? The disease is not progressing and

> you have none of the problems associated with it.

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> Like I said I think the difference here is moot. Remission or total removal

> of symptoms and no further symptoms appearing. Both seem the same to me.

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> www.lyme-resource.com

> You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

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> > > Now if she stops CS/Rife the symptoms return. Both lyme and

> > the foot pain.

> > >

> > > We know she isn't cured, but as long as she does her regimen the

> > > disease is in remission. She stops, it returns. Its very

> > obvious what

> > > is working for her.

> >

> > OK, I agree in such a case you can say that it 'works', but

> > only to treat symptoms, not as a cure. And even then, you

> > never know ... maybe the outcome of the CS/rife would have

> > been different if she hadn't started with the Salt/C first ...

> >

> > My problem with such 'treatments' is that maybe they are only

> > treating the symptoms, and not addressing the real cause.

> > Which may be a bad idea in the long run. Maybe the remission

> > only means that symptoms are suppressed; I have the

> > impression that this applies for a lot of other 'alternative'

> > Lyme treatments.

> >

> > But of course, the same goes for some antibiotics like doxy

> > (at less than 200 mg/daily). And sometimes treating symptoms

> > instead of the disease (cause) itself is the only option

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the kind words Jay. She decided when she started feeling

better that she wanted to help others. So she has opened a small alternative

health resource center. She simply tells folks what she has done for herself

and gives them information about the disease etc.

Its amazing the number of people here in Wisconsin with Lyme Disease who do

not even know it!

Re: [ ] Re: Colloidal Silver

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VERY well said!!

So thrilled for your wife.

Jay

[ ] Re: Colloidal Silver

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>

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> >

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> > Now if she stops CS/Rife the symptoms return. Both lyme and

> the foot pain.

> >

> > We know she isn't cured, but as long as she does her regimen the

> > disease is in remission. She stops, it returns. Its very

> obvious what

> > is working for her.

>

> OK, I agree in such a case you can say that it 'works', but only to

> treat symptoms, not as a cure. And even then, you never know ... maybe

> the outcome of the CS/rife would have been different if she hadn't

> started with the Salt/C first ...

>

> My problem with such 'treatments' is that maybe they are only treating

> the symptoms, and not addressing the real cause.

> Which may be a bad idea in the long run. Maybe the remission only

> means that symptoms are suppressed; I have the impression that this

> applies for a lot of other 'alternative'

> Lyme treatments.

>

> But of course, the same goes for some antibiotics like doxy (at less

> than 200 mg/daily). And sometimes treating symptoms instead of the

> disease (cause) itself is the only option

>

[Guest guest]

She starting originally feeling better on the salt/c protocol. It continued

later when she switched to CS and Rife.

I think it was just mostly getting the bugs to leave her alone! But I will

forward this to her and see if she has a better answer to share..

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> > > Now if she stops CS/Rife the symptoms return. Both lyme and

> > the foot pain.

> > >

> > > We know she isn't cured, but as long as she does her regimen the

> > > disease is in remission. She stops, it returns. Its very

> > obvious what

> > > is working for her.

> >

> > OK, I agree in such a case you can say that it 'works', but only to

> > treat symptoms, not as a cure. And even then, you never know ...

> > maybe the outcome of the CS/rife would have been different if she

> > hadn't started with the Salt/C first ...

> >

> > My problem with such 'treatments' is that maybe they are only

> > treating the symptoms, and not addressing the real cause.

> > Which may be a bad idea in the long run. Maybe the remission only

> > means that symptoms are suppressed; I have the impression that this

> > applies for a lot of other 'alternative'

> > Lyme treatments.

> >

> > But of course, the same goes for some antibiotics like doxy (at less

> > than 200 mg/daily). And sometimes treating symptoms instead of the

> > disease (cause) itself is the only option

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[Guest guest]

, so nice to hear she is back in the saddle. Would love to chat with

her off-line about how she got started again. My horse is too much of a

handfull for me now....

If she's interested, my email is wilson33@...

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:45 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Colloidal Silver

You can read more about her journey in the root folder on my free lyme

resource cd in the file " An Update on my wife's condition with Chronic

Lyme.txt "

She was infected approximately 4 years ago and we tried many different

regimens and protocols on her healing journey. I would first try things on

myself to see what could be expected from someone who did not have Chronic

Lyme. Then she would try them.

Today she is horse back riding, skiing, scuba diving and running a small

alternate health resource center.

www.VistaViewHealth.com

She has her life back.

I share all the information we collected in that journey. I.e. the free lyme

resource CD. Hoping it will provide the information to allow others to make

their own informed decisions!

www.lyme-resource.com

You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

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> That is amazing news & I am very happy for her. How long was

> she ill? My issue is that I have had this since

> 80's.......and so far nothing has worked...but I am on a new

> naturapathic prootocol & hopeful Jazzman

> RE: [ ] Re: Buhner's Book

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[Guest guest]

I will pass it that on to her!

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> > That is amazing news & I am very happy for her. How long

> was she ill?

> > My issue is that I have had this since 80's.......and so

> far nothing

> > has worked...but I am on a new naturapathic prootocol & hopeful

> > Jazzman

> > RE: [ ] Re: Buhner's Book

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> > > > - CS ??

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> > > > - Jen

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[Guest guest]

I buy 30 ppm Silver from the www.vitacost.com site for under $20.00

for an 8oz bottle. I use it for nose spray at the first sign of a nasal thing

and take by 1 tsp if I feel I am getting sick and I fell better quick.

There are videos on you tube that show you step by step how to make your own

silver

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> Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal

silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the best

and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that it

shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where should I

store it?

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[Guest guest]

I buy 30 ppm Silver from the www.vitacost.com site for under $20.00

for an 8oz bottle. I use it for nose spray at the first sign of a nasal thing

and take by 1 tsp if I feel I am getting sick and I fell better quick.

There are videos on you tube that show you step by step how to make your own

silver

>

> Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal

silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the best

and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that it

shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where should I

store it?

>

[Guest guest]

Can anyone explain to which is factual and why? I have never seen so much differing info on a product. Here are a couple of the differing sites.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_best_Colloidal_Silver_product_on_the_market_and_where_can_you_buy_it

http://www.purestcolloids.com/ionic.php

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I buy 30 ppm Silver from the www.vitacost.com site for under $20.00

for an 8oz bottle. I use it for nose spray at the first sign of a nasal thing and take by 1 tsp if I feel I am getting sick and I fell better quick.

There are videos on you tube that show you step by step how to make your own silver

>

> Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the best and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that it shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where should I store it?

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[Guest guest]

Can anyone explain to which is factual and why? I have never seen so much differing info on a product. Here are a couple of the differing sites.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_best_Colloidal_Silver_product_on_the_market_and_where_can_you_buy_it

http://www.purestcolloids.com/ionic.php

-- Re: COLLOIDAL SILVER

I buy 30 ppm Silver from the www.vitacost.com site for under $20.00

for an 8oz bottle. I use it for nose spray at the first sign of a nasal thing and take by 1 tsp if I feel I am getting sick and I fell better quick.

There are videos on you tube that show you step by step how to make your own silver

>

> Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the best and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that it shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where should I store it?

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[Guest guest]

Please note that while colloidal silver is OK, it is not reliable as an

antibiotic. I much prefer nano silver.

After a good deal of evaluation, the brand that I recommend is 10 ppm (which is

quite sufficient) nano silver sol at www.Nutronix.com/naturalsolutions.

I would NEVER think of being without it.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

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> > Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal

> silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the

> best and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that

> it shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where

> should I store it?

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[Guest guest]

Please note that while colloidal silver is OK, it is not reliable as an

antibiotic. I much prefer nano silver.

After a good deal of evaluation, the brand that I recommend is 10 ppm (which is

quite sufficient) nano silver sol at www.Nutronix.com/naturalsolutions.

I would NEVER think of being without it.

Yours in health and freedom,

Dr. Rima

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> > Ok you all have got me to really want to go and stock up on the colloidal

> silver. After the research I am impressed. My question is is what is the

> best and cheapest to buy? Where should I get it. I was just reading that

> it shouldn't be kept by electrical devices or it will ruin it so where

> should I store it?

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[Guest guest]

I do think there is merit to colloidal

silver. Additionally, I have often used Ag(I)

and Ag(II) compounds as antimicrobials, but I do

think silver is oversold. There is no way ANY

medicine can distinguish between pathogenic and

non-pathogenic bacteria. Furthermore, how would

a medicine distinguish between a bacteria that is

pathogenic in one mammal and non-pathogenic in another?

Stem cells can be a mixed blessing. There is an

argument to be made that stems cells might well

differentiate into the very cancer cells that they are intended to replace.

I know of very few people who recovered from

stage IV cancer as quickly as myself. I had

access to virtually any conventional or

alternative treatment that I wanted, and at no

cost. When I teased out all the fantasy and

marketing from everything that was offered, there

were very few meds that remained. I take a few

non-toxic meds/supplements twice a day and my

cancer has evaporated. I have done this without

any vitamin C, vitamin A, IPT, dendritic cell

vaccines, stem cells, colloidal silver, surgery,

etc. I picked a few things that were

conventional to kick-start therapy and took over

with carefully selected meds with my attention on

protecting and restoring cellular immunity, and

keeping all strategies focused on selected

candidate mechanisms of action. In my case this

was differentiation and apoptosis. As a

strategy, I worked with nature rather than foolishly attempt to outsmart it.

At 03:06 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:

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>Colloidal Silver works really well. I am not

>sure if a Colloidal Silver paste

>will penetrate the skin. CS is much more

>effective than an antibiotic and works

>very well on open wounds. Taken internally it

>works very well too. I use 10 ppm.

>A good health food store should have the liquid

>for internal use. Some consider

>CS a must for addressing cancer. Many feel home made with a very good CS

>generator works far better than store bought. I make my own and use it for

>everything. CS does not damage the good bacteria in the intestine like an

>antibiotic. Damaging the good bacteria with

>antibiotics will weaken the immune

>system further. Â CS stimulates the stem cells

>for very fast healing with less

>scaring.

[Guest guest]

I have an infection in my toe that hasn't gone away during the past five weeks.

I went to the doctor and he said the infection could spread so he prescribed me

antibiotics. I have had problems with energy levels over the past few years

(chronic fatigue) so I was wary of taking antibiotics since they can exacerbate

or create chronic fatigue. Antibiotics can also apparently cause other health

problems which are similar in presentation to mercury poisoning which I believe

I have. Instead of taking the antibiotic I went online and looked for an

alternative which led me to colloidal silver. I've taken 10ml twice (30ppm) and

am now feeling highly irritable like I was when I had my mercury fillings. Could

I be poisoned with the amount I have taken? My mother has noticed a radical mood

change in me (since I have taken the collodial silver unbeknownst to her) and

nothing has changed elsewhere in my life e.g. diet that could explain this

symptom. I find Andy's comparison of colloidal silver to thimerosal deeply

disturibng. Anyone care to comment?

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[Guest guest]

My understanding is silver makes mercury poisoning worse and is, itself, a

poison. There are lots of non-drug alternatives to antibiotics. I recommend

against colloidal silver. It is a popular alternative treatment in the cystic

fibrosis community which I think is very unfortunate. So I have asked around

and looked around a bit and have not come across an effective, established means

to remove silver. I would recommend you stop taking it pronto.

Some alternatives:

Vitamin A

Vitamin E

OLE

OoO

Cinnamon

Garlic (I think this is good against staph specifically)

Lysine

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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[Guest guest]

I've always use Sovereign Silver-expensive though.

From: Goldstein@... <Goldstein@...>Subject: Colloidal Silverbird mites Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 8:24 PM

What is a good website for buying colloidal silver? Do any of you have recommendations for that? I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't think was very good). I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again.

[Guest guest]

If I start colloidal silver up again I'll have to be very careful with it, but have never taken enough in the past to turn blue. The famous guy who turned blue was making his own colloidal silver and drinking it daily. But he was perfectly healthy other than that. The blue never goes away.

Thanks dear Bill. God bless you!

Colloidal Silver >bird mites >Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 8:24 PM >>> >>>>What is a good website for buying colloidal silver? Do any of you have recommendations for that? I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't think was very good). I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again. >> >>

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HI, !We used The New SIlversolution, not any more though.. We bought it from England, cause we can´t take in stuff from uS, but their website is Newsilversolution.com or thenewsilversolution.comGood luck!CeciliaFrom: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 9:24:38 PMSubject: Colloidal Silver

What is a good website for buying colloidal silver? Do any of you have recommendations for that? I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't think was very good). I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again.

[Guest guest]

Colloidal silver is an overall cure for infections. We tried but didn´t have any luck.Guess because the mites kept giving us new infections anyhow...CeciliaFrom: Doris Kennedy <kean2465@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 1:20:07 PMSubject: Re:

Colloidal Silver

What is colloidal silver for? My son is taking the terbinafine for now - no use - loss of taste buds.

Is this for the itch symptoms or a cure?

From: Cecilia Borg <ceciliaborg@...>bird mites Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 4:49:20 AMSubject: Re: Colloidal Silver

HI, !

We used The New SIlversolution, not any more though.. We bought it from England, cause we can´t take in stuff from uS, but their website is Newsilversolution.com or thenewsilversolution.com

Good luck!

Cecilia

From: "Goldstein@..." <Goldstein@...>bird mites Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 9:24:38 PMSubject: Colloidal Silver

What is a good website for buying colloidal silver? Do any of you have recommendations for that? I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't think was very good). I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Cerph! I may do that down the line, but hopefully don't have to take this for too long--the UTI is already much better. A friend of mine has a Silver Puppy and makes colloidal silver every other day. Who knows which silver is the best or safest. Everyone selling seems to believe theirs is the best.

Also noted one site said that it does kill parasite eggs... hmmmm, fact or fiction?

Here's an interesting site about colloidal silver. Apparently there have been a "few" recorded cures for the blue skin:

http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html

Re: Colloidal Silver

L.,It's cheaper to make your own.D.http://silverpuppy.com/http://elixa.com/silver/index.htmlhttp://www.wishgranted.com/http://www.naturesalternatives.com/silver/colloidal.html--- In bird mites , Goldstein@... wrote:>> > > What is a good website for buying colloidal silver? Do any of you have recommendations for that? I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't think was very good). I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again. > > > > >

[Guest guest]

L.,

Thanks for the link- it's good to know there's hope for blue people

D.

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> > What is a good website for buying colloidal silver?  Do any of you have

recommendations for that?  I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but

expensive) and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name

(which I didn't think was very good).  I had bought a lot of both and used

many bottles, but want to start taking colloidal silver again.

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[Guest guest]

L.,

Regardless of whether it's homemade or store bought, if you drink too much

c.s.with a high particle content (ppm), argyria can happen.

Otherwise, within certain guidelines, it's relatively safe to use.

For example:

http://www.elixa.com/silver/agyria.htm

http://www.keelynet.com/biology/colloid.htm

http://www.silversafety.org/autocalculator.php#one_daily

(how to make c.s. at home)

http://cancertutor.com/Cancer02/CSilver.html

and lastly

" Many products claiming to be colloidal silver or angstrom size silver particle

colloids are in fact mostly ionic silver solutions.

Typical ionic silver products contain between 3 and 20 ppm of ionic silver which

would not cause argyria.

Ingestion of highly concentrated forms of ionic silver (100 ppm and above) may

cause argyria, a permanent discoloration of the skin. "

http://silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

D.

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> What is a good website for buying colloidal silver?  Do any of you have

recommendations for that?  I've had Nutrasilver (which was good, but expensive)

and the silver Mel Protocol recommended, can't remember the name (which I didn't

think was very good).  I had bought a lot of both and used many bottles, but

want to start taking colloidal silver again.

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone bought a silver making unit from www.silverpuppy.com ?

I do have a unit from there and I'm going to start making more since I

haven't made any in awhile.