Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 one dose is not going to do it. yes, you need to take it like once every 7 days. it brings the numbers down dramatically.ladydee96 <ladydee96@...> wrote: Hi Mel,Maybe I missed some of the earlier references to Ivermectin but are you getting this as a prescription or using animal ivermectin? I tried one dose of it (prescrip) and that didn't work for me but maybe it has to be taken continuously on an ongoing basis??? Thanks.Lady Dee> > > Has anyone used colloidal silver and if so how did> > it do and where is> > best place to buy this?> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 My vet makes his own but I buy mine at the Vitamin Shoppe for about $20 for 8 ounces. This does last a long time. I use 1 big dropperfuls a day. It has 30 ppm (parts per million) but my dentist says that 10 or 30 ppm does not really make that much difference for him. Dudley has the good sites on CS and he gives first hand experiences. Here are my website posts. I will send it in 2 parts because too many items causes my computer to freeze...Lynn URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS - How to Treat Them If you already have a UTI, use NITROFURANTOIN MONO 100mgs (Prescription Generic for Macrobid 100mgs). This antibiotic fights through the bladder's filtering system. It should be taken for 3 weeks. It clears all of the bacteria building up in the bladder. This is a prescription, low-dose antibiotic. Take 2000mgs CranConcentrate daily to keep bacteria from attaching in the body or CSilver. I take Colloidal Silver - a dropperful daily will build up in the system and kill all bacteria, not just in the bladder. When traveling by plane, use CS spray in the nose and mouth to keep bacteria from infiltrating into the body. I use this every day. My veterinarian has a water cooler in his office for everyone to use and it is colloidal silver water. He recommends this water for animals with arthritis. In connection with arthritis, there are many doctors who have successfully treated arthritis in humans with low doses of an antibiotic...for about 1 year http://www.webspawner.com/users/colloidalminerals/index.html IMPORTANT: It takes too long for Colloidal Silver to kill bacteria in the bladder - as long as 6 weeks. I strongly recommend using the proper antibiotic to kill the bacteria already in the bladder, then use Colloidal Silver to keep the bacteria from returning. Once you get a UTI, it often becomes a pattern, especially as women get older. NOTE: CS is not easily excreted. It builds in the system and it takes a long time to eliminate. This is helpful for working with the bladder's filtering system. However, it is not necessary to take this long term. With the new, highly refined molecules produced now, people have taken this for years without problems. Turning blue is never an issue unless you consume excessive quantities! Vaginitis that contributes to UTIs - douche with a vinegar and water solution - these can be purchased at the drug store already prepared. Use after intercourse or twice a month. This maintains the acid condition needed in the vaginal canal. It is alkalinity that promotes yeast and UTI bacteria. I had a friend who had a horrible vaginal discharge. She had no medical insurance. I took her to CVS and got a 4-pack of the vinegar douche. After 3 days, she was cured! This is much better than using antibiotics. COLLOIDAL SILVER CONTROVERSY: http://www.lifesilver.com/safety.htm Don't worry about turning blue! Colloidal Silver Hi Peggy, Ready-made colloidal silver is very expensive, so your best bet is to make your own. If you want CS as a spray, just put in a spray bottle. To learn more about CS, visit http://tinyurl.com/2fd7xs All the best, Dudley Delany dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 What's the best source of colloidal silver? M -- It's amazing, really, how much people think you must know if you know about something nobody else much cares about. -Tommy Whittaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Hi , CS is sold in health food stores and online, but it is expensive. To save money, I make my own CS for pennies an ounce with a unit I purchased from http://www.silverpuppy.com If you prefer to buy CS ready-made, this is a reliable source: http://tinyurl.com/2cgwxa That's where I purchase my colloidal gold. To learn more about CS, visit http://tinyurl.com/2fd7xs Best regards, Dudley Delany dudley_delany Re: Colloidal Silver What's the best source of colloidal silver? M -- It's amazing, really, how much people think you must know if you know about something nobody else much cares about. -Tommy Whittaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Dudley, Which is the best brand that will definitelly not make one turn blue. Thanks. --- Dudley Delany <DudleyDelany@...> wrote: > Hi , > > CS is sold in health food stores and online, but it > is expensive. To save money, I make my own CS for > pennies an ounce with a unit I purchased from > > http://www.silverpuppy.com > > If you prefer to buy CS ready-made, this is a > reliable source: > > http://tinyurl.com/2cgwxa > > That's where I purchase my colloidal gold. > > To learn more about CS, visit > > http://tinyurl.com/2fd7xs > > Best regards, > > Dudley Delany > > dudley_delany > > > Re: Colloidal > Silver > > What's the best source of colloidal silver? > > > M > -- > > It's amazing, really, how much people think you must > know if you know about something nobody else much > cares about. -Tommy Whittaker > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2008 Report Share Posted March 27, 2008 Hi , There is a great deal of misinformaton and disinformation about colloidal silver causing people to turn blue. This site sets the records straight: http://tinyurl.com/26zv95 TRUE CS will not cause you to turn blue, and I suggest making your own CS to be sure you are getting TRUE colloidal silver. That's what I do with a unit I purchased here: http://www.silverpuppy.com If you insist on buying CS ready-made, here is a brand you can trust: http://tinyurl.com/2cgwxa Sincerely, Dudley Re: Colloidal > Silver > > What's the best source of colloidal silver? > > > M > -- > > It's amazing, really, how much people think you must > know if you know about something nobody else much > cares about. -Tommy Whittaker > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 You do not have to worry about turning blue with any brands today. In the past, CS was hard for the body to excrete and it would get stuck in the tissues. No problem for me because it kills bacteria there, especially in the bladder where bacteria grows. However, today the CS is so refined that this does not happen. My dentist was taking CS long before the refinement process and he still is not blue. I do not know what this buy on TV did. I know that he rubbed it on his face and he did not stop. He was crazy and did a lot of harm to CS publicity-wise. Both my vet and dentist still have a strong reddish hue to their skin, no sign of blue. Do not worry about this. Remember, CS sold today is very refined. This CS information was given to me by Naturopath, Dr. Jenna . In Berkeley Springs WV, there are several physicists and former experimental test pilots who brew their own and swear by it (like Dudley and myself). It is going to be more course but none of them have turned blue after years of drinking large amounts of this. I just use the long dropper in the Vitamin Shoppe brand. One shot a day does it for me and, as I posted yesterday, I was coming down with something and a dropper shot of CS " nipped it in the bud! " My vet has CS water in the water cooler that he makes himself. I really need to buy one of these " makers " that Dudley suggested because my vet uses this on the roots of his plants to kill off bacteria when he is starting them in the sets (before planting them out in the garden). My dentist said that the cost should not be a consideration as they all do just fine. I want this for gardening...Lynn Re: Colloidal > Silver > > What's the best source of colloidal silver? > > > M > -- > > It's amazing, really, how much people think you must > know if you know about something nobody else much > cares about. -Tommy Whittaker > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Hi Lynn, > I do not know what this guy on TV did. I know that he rubbed it on his > face and he did not stop. He was crazy and did a lot of harm to CS > publicity-wise. Both my vet and dentist still have a strong reddish hue > to their skin, no sign of blue. Do not worry about this. I saw an interview with this man, Karason, where he said he initially started drinking CS after reading about it and suggesting it to a friend who had health problems. He said he felt obligated to drink some with his friend after recommending it. Then he found that it helped some of his own health issues. But he drank a QUART or more a day! When he appeared on Oprah, Dr. Mehmet Oz said was astonished by his appearance and kept checking around Karason's collar to be sure it wasn't makeup. He said that Karason had basically tatooed his cells since the silver was so built up in his body. Other than his color, so far he appears to be fairly healthy but is adverse to seeing doctors. Although Mae West said, " Too much of a good thing is wonderful, " in this case it isn't. Warmly, Barbara Barbara Finch Feng Shui & Chinese Astrology http://www.finchshui.com Venus Rising Designs - Jewelry & Suncatchers http://www.venusrisingdesigns.com 301-946-0108 There are many paths to enlightenment. Be sure to take one with a heart. - Lao Tzu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2008 Report Share Posted March 30, 2008 Hi Dudley I buy my colloidal silver from http://nkarande.users.btopenworld.com/home2.htm Reading through their site I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on Nano silver (quote below) I have read a lot of bad things about nano particles and would like to know if this applies to colloidal silver. Maybe I should be buying my CS elsewhere! " The technical name for the product we manufacture is a combination solution of Highly Bioavailable, Oligodynamic, Electrically Isolated Colloidal Silver containing (80/20) Ionic AND Particulate silver in the range of 0.001 - 0.040 uM, at a concentration of 10 Parts Per Million (PPM). For ease, we refer to it just as " Colloidal Silver " and is the basis of all our products. It is often referred to as " Nano Silver " or " Silver Sols. " We believe both types of silver are very important & the combination solution we produce is the logical approach. We refuse to be drawn into a debate between the two, which I am sure are just marketing ploys used by some sites to differentiate their products from others. We do not recommend or manufacture Mild Silver Proteins (MSP) as the high silver content can lead to undesirable side effects. " Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi , In my opinion, there is no significant difference between Nano-Silver and colloidal silver, except perhaps for its price. Best regards, Dudley Re: Re: Colloidal Silver Hi Dudley I buy my colloidal silver from http://nkarande.users.btopenworld.com/home2.htm Reading through their site I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on Nano silver (quote below) I have read a lot of bad things about nano particles and would like to know if this applies to colloidal silver. Maybe I should be buying my CS elsewhere! " The technical name for the product we manufacture is a combination solution of Highly Bioavailable, Oligodynamic, Electrically Isolated Colloidal Silver containing (80/20) Ionic AND Particulate silver in the range of 0.001 - 0.040 uM, at a concentration of 10 Parts Per Million (PPM). For ease, we refer to it just as " Colloidal Silver " and is the basis of all our products. It is often referred to as " Nano Silver " or " Silver Sols. " We believe both types of silver are very important & the combination solution we produce is the logical approach. We refuse to be drawn into a debate between the two, which I am sure are just marketing ploys used by some sites to differentiate their products from others. We do not recommend or manufacture Mild Silver Proteins (MSP) as the high silver content can lead to undesirable side effects. " Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Dudley, I am looking at ordering colloidal silver and gold from http://www.utopiasilver.com/ ...I am wondering how much colloidal silver and colloidal gold would be a good thing for a person to take daily? Any comments you have on this would be most appreciated or a good place to read about this or both. *smile* Thank you, Peggy Re: Re: Colloidal Silver Hi Dudley I buy my colloidal silver from http://nkarande.users.btopenworld.com/home2.htm Reading through their site I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on Nano silver (quote below) I have read a lot of bad things about nano particles and would like to know if this applies to colloidal silver. Maybe I should be buying my CS elsewhere! " The technical name for the product we manufacture is a combination solution of Highly Bioavailable, Oligodynamic, Electrically Isolated Colloidal Silver containing (80/20) Ionic AND Particulate silver in the range of 0.001 - 0.040 uM, at a concentration of 10 Parts Per Million (PPM). For ease, we refer to it just as " Colloidal Silver " and is the basis of all our products. It is often referred to as " Nano Silver " or " Silver Sols. " We believe both types of silver are very important & the combination solution we produce is the logical approach. We refuse to be drawn into a debate between the two, which I am sure are just marketing ploys used by some sites to differentiate their products from others. We do not recommend or manufacture Mild Silver Proteins (MSP) as the high silver content can lead to undesirable side effects. " Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Peggy, The amount of colloidal silver and gold one takes really depends upon the reason for this dietary supplementation. If you are not treating any specific disease or condition, then take these colloids according to the directions on the bottle. In my own personal case, because I am using them therapeutically, I take a tablespoonful of colloidal gold (10 ppm) in the morning and one in the evening, swishing each around in my mouth for five minutes before swallowing. I take a tablespoonful of collodial silver (10 ppm) every two hours, swishing each around in my mouth for five minutes before swallowing. Sincerely, Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Thank you Dudley. I really appreciate the knowledge that you have and your willingness to share it. Blessings. *smile* Re: Re: Colloidal Silver Hi Peggy, The amount of colloidal silver and gold one takes really depends upon the reason for this dietary supplementation. If you are not treating any specific disease or condition, then take these colloids according to the directions on the bottle. In my own personal case, because I am using them therapeutically, I take a tablespoonful of colloidal gold (10 ppm) in the morning and one in the evening, swishing each around in my mouth for five minutes before swallowing. I take a tablespoonful of collodial silver (10 ppm) every two hours, swishing each around in my mouth for five minutes before swallowing. Sincerely, Dudley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 there should be a little squirter thing that comes with the collidal silver you use that and put it in bottle water or just use a squirt of it in your mouth its taste is better if you put it in juice or something... uhm look up the benefits of collidal silver or google it or google something like what a good dose of collidal silver .. arlynsg@... writes: A woman I know is having some difficulties with her family. Her mother is pushing use of colloidal silver. Can any of you give some advice about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I've been using Colloidal Silver for a few years. It kills a wide variety of bacteria and even some viruses and fungi. I used to get sinus infections with every cold and it helped eliminate the infection, as long as it could come into contact with the bacteria. Here is an informative website about it- http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator I had a duck with a broken leg where the foot died so had to be amputated and also a duck with a raccoon bite taken out of the back of her neck exposing some bone. I put CS on both a couple of times a day and some salve, both healed fine and regrew skin and even mostly feathers. It is used in burn clinics. Not only does it kill pathogens but also helps cells dedifferentiate so they can form needed tissues to heal, such as skin where there is no skin, like over the end of the middle of the thighbone in the case of my duck. Bob Beck used it as part of his cancer protocol with ozone, zappers, and magnetic pulsers. On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:01 PM, oceanaa@... wrote: > arlynsg@... writes: > > A woman I know is having some difficulties with her family. Her > mother is pushing use of colloidal silver. Can any of you give some > advice about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Hi , How would colloidal silver be helpful for cancer treatment? ar On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:37:02 -0700, " Tad Winiecki " <winiecki@...> said: > I've been using Colloidal Silver for a few years. It kills a wide > variety of bacteria and even some viruses and fungi. I used to get > sinus infections with every cold and it helped eliminate the infection, > as long as it could come into contact with the bacteria. Here is an > informative website about it- > > http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Gator > > I had a duck with a broken leg where the foot died so had to be > amputated and also a duck with a raccoon bite taken out of the back of > her neck exposing some bone. I put CS on both a couple of times a day > and some salve, both healed fine and regrew skin and even mostly > feathers. It is used in burn clinics. Not only does it kill pathogens > but also helps cells dedifferentiate so they can form needed tissues to > heal, such as skin where there is no skin, like over the end of the > middle of the thighbone in the case of my duck. > > Bob Beck used it as part of his cancer protocol with ozone, zappers, > and magnetic pulsers. > > -- Arlyn Grant arlynsg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 On Jun 20, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Arlyn Grant wrote: > Hi , > How would colloidal silver be helpful for cancer treatment? > ar This explanation is rather short, lacking much info. I don't know where to get more. I never really got around to the actual Beck protocol, just used CS against infections and as a mouth rinse against mouth bacteria. Here are a couple of sites. I guess the equipment and procedures of the other parts was intimidating. Some people did pursue the whole thing, I can't remember seeing many testimonies. http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/BobBeck.html Colloidal Silver Colloidal silver is an antimicrobial nutrient and is perfectly safe for humans, pets and plants. If the colloidal silver is absorbed by a cancer cell, it will probably kill the microbe inside the cell, thus allowing the cell to revert back into a normal cell. However, its main purpose is to kill the microbes in the blood and most of those in hiding. http://www.toolsforhealing.com/cd/Articles/B/BobBeck/ BobBeckProtocols.html 2. Colloidal Sliver: Home-made, pennies-per-gallon colloidal silver acts as a " second immune system " according to Bob Beck. It has been shown in numerous studies to be the only substance known to eliminate hundreds of viruses, bacteria, fungus, etc., more than any modern antibiotic or " miracle drug " yet developed by the pharmaceutical companies. It greatly assists in eliminating pathogens and guards against opportunistic infections. It can be used anywhere in or on the body. You can buy just a colloidal silver maker, the Silver Maker, or get blood electrification and a colloidal silver maker in one unit with the Silver Pulser or RSG-2. ================== Testimonies from the Beck-n-stuff forum, they don't really mention CS much- Hi All, A while back I made a post called " Zapper Testimonial " post #6913, which I have copied below in its entirety. I am not cutting it off intentionally, because this post is an update. My friend with colon and liver cancer, who the doctor's said was going to die, just called me with great news. You can read below what all he has been doing. In addition, he started the Hulda parasite treatment this past Monday. The last time he was at the doctor they tried to give him a prescription for a strong pain killer because they said he was going to need it soon because he won't take any more chemo and the cancer is growing and spreading fast. He did not fill the prescription. He went home and started the Beck and protocols the next day. He took off work today to go to Houston for his first doctor visit and checkup since he started the Beck protocol and the Hulda protocol. Today they ran all the tests on him for cancer markers in the blood and also checked all his organ functions including liver, colon, kidneys, blood pressure, white cell count, T-cell counts, etc. They checked everything. When the results came back from the lab they told him that his cancer is almost cured!! The doctors came in with his test results and wanted to know what he had been doing, because he should be in very poor condition by now, but all his body functions are in the normal range and he has no pain and his energy level is high. He appears to be a very healthy and happy guy. It doesn't make any sense to them. He said he told them that he has been eating lots of vitamins. He told me that he has been feeling good since he started the alternatives, and better and better each week. He said that he prayed about it a few days ago and during prayer was told not to be cocky and arrogant with the doctors when they confirmed that his health was improving without their chemo and other drugs. He said when they came in with the test results and told him the good news he wanted to grin real big and jump up and down and " do the Moonwalk backwards out of the doctor's office " , but he didn't. He just said thanks for all your help and smiled and walked out. Then after they got outside in the parking lot, him and his wife danced a little jig and did some high fives. So, I guess all this strange stuff we have been doing really does work after all. And all the money we spend on zappers, pulsers, water purifiers and alkalizers, herbs and vitamins, etc. appears to be money well spent. And the best part of it all is that everyone who is cured of their ailments this way can be proud, because they did it themselves. Not the doctor. In spite of the doctors sometimes, if they have been given poison in the form of chemo or other immune suppressor drugs. I am a happy guy right now!! )) Duncan ============================= > Hi All, > Good News! > > My best friend at work has had cancer for over a year and was taking > progressively stronger and stronger doses of chemo, but the cancer > kept growing while he was getting very sick from the chemo side > effects. Eventually he quit taking the chemo, as it wasn't working and was just making him very sick. > > I gave him a copy of the complete Beck protocol instructions and a > copy of the Hulda book , Cure for All Cancers. I also loaned him my Zapper and my Beck Blood Electrifier zapper and my Beck Magnetic Pulser. I got the Beck devices from Sota. He already knew about the colloidal silver, but wasn't taking it every day. I recommended that he drink some c.s. every day and add a liquid oxygen supplement to his drinking water. > > He has been doing all these things per the Beck 4 part protocol plus > zapping every day with the zapper. He purchased a > zapper and water alkalizer from Kallie and has been drinking > alkaline water with added oxygen. He has also been drinking a > herbal detox tea every day. He has quit taking the chemo and > started doing all these alternative healing things for about 2 ¡Z 3 > weeks now. > > Today he came in to work and told me that the zapping and cleanses > have been pulling a bunch of junk out every day, and this morning > when he got up and went to the bathroom he passed a very large > quantity of dead parasites. Apparently all the dead parasites were > killed by the two zappers and the magnetic pulser. This is the > first person that I have known personally to have this happen and > tell me about it first hand. I have known others who dumped a load > of parasites after the Hulda parasite treatment with Walnut > hull tincture, cloves and wormwood, but this is the first time I > heard of it from just zapping. > > He also told me that he feels much better now and has much more > energy. He is also diabetic and has been able to cut way down on > the amount of insulin he needs each day. His depression is gone and > he now has a good overall attitude. And he is able to work 8 hours > a day again. He is a happy guy now! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi all You can probably tell that Im doing a bit of surfing - things that Ive been meaning to check out. Ive been looking at colloidal silver which says that its clinically proven to kill bacteria and fungi - I wondered if this might be helpful for people with candida. Id be interested in hearing any experiences of this. I dont think Ive got candida but I do have a swollen gland which must indicate some sort of infection. Anyway, might be useful to check out for people with candida. Any thoughts please? thanks, Gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Here you go Gill - and all of you who have Candida Albicans.... http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/tour/fre/default.mspx http://www.naturalnews.com/010038.html http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/EMSL/Calbicans.pdf http://www.natural-cancer-cures.com/cures-for-candida.html Just to start you off. Luv - Sheila Hi all You can probably tell that Im doing a bit of surfing - things that Ive been meaning to check out. Ive been looking at colloidal silver which says that its clinically proven to kill bacteria and fungi - I wondered if this might be helpful for people with candida. Id be interested in hearing any experiences of this. I dont think Ive got candida but I do have a swollen gland which must indicate some sort of infection. Anyway, might be useful to check out for people with candida. Any thoughts please? thanks, Gill No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 20/06/2008 11:52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 What kind of cure rates do beck and clark have? I have breast and lung cancer spreading rapidly. Am doing budwig for 6 weeks. I am afraid it is not working fast enough. I need help. Could you give me exact detail of everything you did? Thanks, Robyn This explanation is rather short, lacking much info. I don't know where to get more. I never really got around to the actual Beck protocol, just used CS against infections and as a mouth rinse against mouth bacteria. Here are a couple of sites. I guess the equipment and procedures of the other parts was intimidating. Some people did pursue the whole thing, I can't remember seeing many testimonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I thought you said you had water ionizors, beck and a whole bunch of other stuff? Thanks, Robyn This explanation is rather short, lacking much info. I don't know where to get more. I never really got around to the actual Beck protocol, just used CS against infections and as a mouth rinse against mouth bacteria. Here are a couple of sites. I guess the equipment and procedures of the other parts was intimidating. Some people did pursue the whole thing, I can't remember seeing many testimonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 , Thank you for your help with this. ar -- Arlyn Grant arlynsg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hi Gill, I use it occasionally either internally or spray it on the skin, also in eyes, ears etc. Originally I was told to take it (augmentin I think it was called 23ppm) - I saw this one on a US site recently, but I ordered it from Germany I believe from somewhere which only sells through doctors - it is supposed to be somewhat better than most of the ones you can buy. This is important as colloidal silver can lead to argyrrhia (definitely wrong spelling, but something like that) - blue skin which can be permanent. This was years ago & at the time it cost £40 for a smallish bottle. Since then I have bought a colloidal silver "maker" from .net or .com (the sites were connected) & I am happy with this. This makes the colloidal silver cheaply & can vary the ppm (parts per million). I have also used this for my dogs. I have a miniature poodle with various serious ailments & sometimes he gets a problem where he swells up & if I leave it a few hours before taking him to the vet it will lead to a few anxious days wondering if he will pull through, but I have found that if I give him colloidal silver at the first signs of problems, the problem has just gone away (so far!). Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 to Robyn  go to Mexico, Tijuana there is a clinic they have a very successful treatment. let me know if you want more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 On Jun 21, 2008, at 8:50 AM, robyn howell wrote: > What kind of cure rates do beck and clark have? I have breast and lung > cancer spreading rapidly. Am doing budwig for 6 weeks. I am afraid it > is not working fast enough. I need help. Could you give me exact > detail of everything you did? > Thanks, Robyn Robyn- I haven't actually used the full protocol for Beck or or know any cure rates. I can't say I've seen a lot of testimonies on their site but there are some. claims a lot of success in her books but seemed to lack long term follow-up. We did the herbs for the Parasite Cleanse at one point and also tried to get any of the carcinogenic chemicals such as Isopropyl Alcohol, etc. out of our house, if you read her books they list a lot of things. I slacked off on some of her stuff since I couldn't stand washing dishes with soap, it didn't remove the grease. I try to buy natural cosmetics and cleaning agents without bad chemicals and preservatives. Both Beck and use zappers but we still haven't tried that. We have also used Essiac tea on and off for years, and some internal Black Salve tablets, it's hard to say just what the impact was but DH had only very slow growth for the last 15 years, but last year had one growth appear on his head that had us more concerned so we started Budwig and cleaned up our diet. I was not confident we were doing Budwig enough so started my husband on LDN because it is supposed to stabilize by boosting the immune system, we still do Budwig as much as we can and changed out diet to get rid of non-Budwig foods. Read Dee's (and others') testimonies below about LDN, she has lung cancer and is 16 months past being given a few months to live. She is trying other things besides LDN, first Cesium and now Artemix. We have also done Essiac tea, it is said to be compatible with Budwig but I read something about it conflicting with LDN so I recently stopped doing the Essiac herbs we were taking in a powdered form. If you have a good natural doctor you might be able to get him to prescribe LDN or prescriptions are only required in the United States as they are US law and not needed from other countries. I ordered originally from India but just now placed an order with a Canadian Pharmacy, it will take 2-4 weeks to arrive though there is a faster option of 9-11 days costing just a little more- Someone recommended- " Meds Ranch at: www.medsranch.com . They work the same as River, No prescription necessary. I have had no problems with them. Type Naltrexone in the " search " box and you see Revia (same as naltrexone) 50mg 30 tablets for $87.99 plus S & H. " Since I just ordered I don't know if there will be any problems. Do you juice? Asparagus juice is supposed to be very anti-cancer. I'll send you a file on it. I was cooking it daily but decided I should be juicing it instead. Beets and carrots are supposed to be very good too. DH just passed the 7 month mark on LDN and has been stable. We do not do testing but his lumps are just under the skin. We also do some herbs, like he was taking Paw Paw but recently ran out. He drinks papaya leaf tea from Mountain Rose Herbs and takes Serrazymes from Swanson's, enzymes are supposed to remove the fibrin cloak from cancer cells so the immune system can recognize and remove them, and also prevent metastases. LDN_4_cancer/ http://www.ldn4cancer.com/ Hello, I take Low dose Naltrexone for stage 4B cancer and YES it does stop the cancer and thus SAVED my life. (Oncologist last meeting, FEb 5th 2007 said I was terminal and get my affairs in order and prepare for palliative chemo and death.) But it is NOT a cure, it just stops disease. So if I stop taking LDN which is inexpensive and no side effects, my cancer will start to grow again. So I am on it indefinitely but it is far better to take a little capsule every night than the eternal dirt nap in my book. LDN does save lives and works for so many diseases, MS, Parkinson's , Rheumatoid arthritis, Lupus, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Crohn's and many others. The best drug in the world in my book... Nobel prize for Dr. Bihari! Dee =============================== Have to jump in here as I have been on LDN for 9 months and stabilized my terminal cancer.... ( not sure what I am classified at now " dead man walking? " )  But I do heavy flax seed  and cottage cheese in the morning and all vegetarian the rest of the day. Have to admit that since adding the milled flax seed to my daily diet have noticed many changes to my overall health and body.  Not sure if it has impacted the tumors but next scan will show that but over health and well being has been dramatic.  So for Budwig Light I concur it works for me.  LDN is a life saver though also.  Dee ======================= ======================= From: dalejo_hkg2@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] Re: Cure rates Date: May 24, 2008 3:43:05 PM PDT LDN_4_cancer Reply- LDN_4_cancer Robyne, LDN is not a cure for any disease. The links section on this board provides most of the information needed about what LDN does. But cancer patient's who have NO other alternative, it has given us many a chance. Dr. Bihari's results sharply contrast to prior usual cancer treatment outcomes: either a cancer-induced death or a total cure. LDN therapy presents a viable third alternative, the possible long-term stabilization and/or gradual reduction of tumor mass volume. I have been on LDN about about 15 months now when told Feb 5th 2007 I would only have 4-9 months to live and nother further could be done. Long term stabilization is very different than a cure but easier to deal with than death. Now have a chance to add extra protocols along with LDN to give the cancer a good fight. Dee =========================== ============================ From: deidre@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] update on me Date: June 16, 2008 1:28:47 AM PDT LDN_4_cancer Reply- LDN_4_cancer May 15, 2008 CT SCAN shows the nodules still growing slowly which gives me time to try additional treatments with LDN which will target the largest nodule directly. June 13, 2008 I underwent Radio Frequency Ablation (RFA) to destroy the largest nodule in my left lobe. Just got out of hospital and the treatment was successful. I am minus one nodule. Little hard to breathe yet and a bit sore as they went in through the chest but not worse for wear. I've now reset the " clock " on the largest tumor growth, expecting that the LDN will continue to hold down the growth of the existing nodules, extending my high quality of life. LDN has had no side effects with me, and anyone seeing me would never believe I had cancer, since I feel and appear healthy. It's now been 15 months since diagnoses with metastatic lung cancer, and well beyond the 9 months my oncologist had given me even with chemotherapy. LDN has been successful in controlling the cancer growth with no side effects, a success beyond anything that conventional medicine has been able to achieve for my cancer type. Dee =============================== From: dalejo_hkg2@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] LDN and good news Date: June 21, 2008 1:26:28 AM PDT LDN_4_cancer Reply- LDN_4_cancer I had follow up with my doctor who did RFA ( radio frequency ablation) today and he said it was all a success plus was curious that all my lung tumors showed calcifications around them. I asked " what is that? " He said they have dead cells all around them. Something is making them ill and die. He didn't know about LDN last week and did his research and was impressed, he found a compounder ( buying pure naltrexone from Bristol Meyers) and ordered LDN from this coming Monday. We now will have a supply here in Hong Kong for LDN and I am delighted. This is fantastic news. He was most interested as he said from his reading and understanding LDN is mainly used for MS, Crohn's etc. but seeing my scans he realizes the benefit for cancer as well. Finally finding a " open minded " doctor so willing to explore more with LDN and to think of all the people that can be helped now. This is exciting news. Dee =============================== From: dalejo_hkg2@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] Re:LDN and good news Date: June 21, 2008 8:16:05 AM PDT Yes I have to say I think it all works together. Where one is not strong enough the other helps out. I am taking LDN , Artemix and Paw Paw now. I think the 3 together is a good fighting machine... Didn't take any morphine when I had the RFA so suffering a bit with the swollen lung but should be good in another week or so. I will go in for a scan again in late July so that will tell me how all three combinations are working for me. Glad to finally have someone go over the scans with me and see the calcifications on the tumors. That was a bit of good news for me. Dee ================================ From: celia@... Subject: Re: [LDN_4_cancer] Squamous Cell Carcinoma Date: June 16, 2008 12:21:54 PM PDT Where do I start with my 'story', it could take quite a while, but I shall try and condense it as much as possible. My name is Celia and I live in Scotland, I am in my 50's, so not exactly a spring chick - but hey - working on it!!  May of 2006 gave me shocking news, that I had a chest full of cancerous lymph nodes, tears and grief were the most prevalent, grief for the life I may not have, and for those I would leave behind.  The primary tumour was never found, but I am 'treated' as 'lung' and thus recieved palliative care only, eight doses of chemo, followed by 12 doses of radiation, it was expected I had 6 - 12 months of living to do.  I also have/had the following - mild lupus, IBS (so bad sometimes I dare not go out) , Diverticula,  COPD, thyroid problems (had partial thyroidectomy years ago) osteo arthritis, high blood pressure, high cholestrol, chronic fatigue.  After my conventional treatment, the Onc was amazed when I went into remission, he assured me this would not last, that I had less than 1% of making it. Not for me to accept that! Treatment did not seem to be forthcoming after that initial work, it was a case of watch and wait, I will not wait, I will not watch, I went in search for anything that might help me.  Of course I went on the usual supplements, but knew this was not enough, changed my diet, but not radically, red meat I could not eat, and my diet consists mainly of eggs and fish - plus veg and fruit. I have also discovered a penchant for the darkest chocolate I can find, at least 85 - 86% cocoa. I read about B17 and went to one of Philip Day's lectures, I started taking this almost every day in kernel form. In January 2007 I had a very bad excacerbation of COPD which landed me in hospital, I came out on 02 and steroids.  I then learned about Iscador, a derivitive of the Misteltoe, and fortunately as there is a homeopathic hospital not too far from me I got a referral and now use Iscador series two,  on a regular basis. Still I searched the net, and lo and behold came across LDN after never hearing of it before, it seemed like a miracle, I had to have it, I fought for it and got it on the NHS so it costs me nothing. I got my first bottle but did not dare take it, I was on steroids regularly for my chest, and had to have my hip replaced and was thus on pain killers. Each night I looked at the bottle, and each night I thought - shall it be now?  As soon as my hip pain began to diminish, and I could come off the steroids, I counted the days - and then on day ten I took my first LDN! Don't know why, but I was frightened of it....  My first feelings on LDN were as though I was on a bit of a high, I felt great, I had some disturbed nights, not too many strange dreams, and have worked out by now when it is best for me to take it. This is usually about 9 - 30 pm, and as I take sleepers an hour later this seems to be working for me. At the time of writing - (1st June 2008)  I have been on LDN for about eight months.  Very soon after staring the LDN I found I did not need the 02 for my COPD, I only need to nebulise maybe once a day - if that, and today I walked the furthest I have been able to for what seems ages, it was a miracle, still can't believe I did it! One thing I noticed early on was that I was not spending half my life in the loo.... I had been referred for another sigmoidoscopy but cancelled it, to this day I have never had the bowel problem like I did before LDN....  My energy began to return, I had had chronic fatigue for many years, but slowly I am getting more energetic, I was fit enough to have a hip replacement about six months ago - oh the relief!! My last X ray shows no signs of the cancer which was supposed to have killed me over a year ago, my blood pressure is now normal after being too high for a few years, I had to come off BP medications, my lupus does not bother me at all..  I have a good appetite and am gaining weight, I feel quite good all things considered, and I recommend LDN to everyone!  Celia  This may be used in any publication whatsoever..... =============================== From: wezzie1954@... Subject: [ ] Hi Everyone! Date: April 14, 2008 2:32:08 AM PDT Hi everyone. I've just joined your group and am also a member of the group 'LDN_4_cancer' I was diagnosed as having renal cell carcinoma (kidney cancer) in late 2005 and underwent a radical nephrectomy to remove my right kidney a couple of weeks later. A year later,surprise surprise, I was informed that my cancer had 'returned'. To cut a long story short, while my oncologist procrastinated about the kind of mustard gas he wanted to test fly on me, I entered into a steep learning curve about 'alternative' treatments, made the necessary leap of faith and started taking LDN in July of last year, a decision I have had no cause to regret! The reason I have joined this group is to open my mind up to other alternatives. I am totally 'sold' on LDN and will take it for the rest of my life, but I feel it would be foolish to believe that this is the end of all my cancer concerns, I'm sure we all understand cancers potential to 'cloak' its activities and I therefore fully intend to become conversant in as many treatments as possible. I hope you will welcome my input as much as I shall yours! ================================= From: wezzie1954@... Subject: [ ] Hi Everyone! Date: April 14, 2008 2:32:08 AM PDT Hi everyone. I've just joined your group and am also a member of the group 'LDN_4_cancer' I was diagnosed as having renal cell carcinoma (kidney cancer) in late 2005 and underwent a radical nephrectomy to remove my right kidney a couple of weeks later. A year later,surprise surprise, I was informed that my cancer had 'returned'. To cut a long story short, while my oncologist procrastinated about the kind of mustard gas he wanted to test fly on me, I entered into a steep learning curve about 'alternative' treatments, made the necessary leap of faith and started taking LDN in July of last year, a decision I have had no cause to regret! The reason I have joined this group is to open my mind up to other alternatives. I am totally 'sold' on LDN and will take it for the rest of my life, but I feel it would be foolish to believe that this is the end of all my cancer concerns, I'm sure we all understand cancers potential to 'cloak' its activities and I therefore fully intend to become conversant in as many treatments as possible. I hope you will welcome my input as much as I shall yours! ============================= From: wezzie1954@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] Re: How long to get results Date: March 1, 2008 4:39:00 AM PST LDN_4_cancer Reply- LDN_4_cancer Hi I have much the same to report as Pam. Within 10 weeks of starting to take LDN, a CT scan revealed that tumor growth had ceased. A couple of months later all pain had also stopped. ============================ From: wezzie1954@... Subject: [LDN_4_cancer] Latest CT results Date: June 11, 2008 8:34:54 AM PDT LDN_4_cancer Reply- LDN_4_cancer Hi everyone I saw my 'Onc' today regarding my May scan results. Absolutely no change in the size of my tumour since the previous scan (Sept '07) and no metastases. My 'Onc' decided the success is due to the power of 'auto suggestion'! Yes, I did roll up as soon as I got out of his office! I think we can safely say " LDN 1 -- conventional wisdom 0 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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