Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Mine is a yellowish color... it's 10 ppm. It's ok to douche with it. It's very healing. I had a sore in my mouth, and the cs healed it in a day! Mic > >I just received my order of Colloidal silver,I live in a place where you >can't get it in any shop. >It is " Meso-Silver " ,5 ppm.I am not sure if thte product I got is OK,since >its color is greyish. >Transparent yet greyish.Is it the way it supposed to be? I also red in >the instruction manual that >it is possible to douch with it.Did any of you girls evert tried that? >Bella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 i just purchased C. Silver and mine was $45.00 Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 my C. Silver is 5ppm & my " Dr " says not to take longer than 10 days. go off it for a while than start again. did you hear over the news about 3 months back a man took it for 4 years straight and he turned gray & couldn't reverse it? Mog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 I just read in the paper that a Montana politician took it and did indeed turn " slightly " blue. It's not reversible either. But what it doesn't say is how much he took. >my C. Silver is 5ppm & my " Dr " says not to take longer than 10 days. go off >it for a while than start again. did you hear over the news about 3 months >back a man took it for 4 years straight and he turned gray & couldn't reverse >it? Mog > >/ _____________________________________________________________ Save rainforest for free with a Planet-Save.com e-mail account: http://www.planet-save.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Ga writes: <<Another thing I've found that I realize is very controversial for a number of reasons is colloidal silver, which works on germs, wirus, and fungus. I'm using it right now.>> , I would take another look at Colloidal silver. The FDA has warned and shut down many alternative web sites for fraudulent advertising of colloidal silver. Whether or not it has any positive advantages for all the claims, they do know that the side effects can be extreme. They have known for many years that this can cause a condition that is called argyria (where the skin turns blue/gray.) Two examples of this are at the following web sites: <A HREF= " http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/ " >Rosemary 's argyria introduction page</A> <A HREF= " http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/Central/10/02/candidate.blue.skin.ap/ " >CNN.com - Candidate turned himself blue - Oct. 1, 2002</A> Even Weil, MD, who is known for alternative medicines does not recommend injesting colloidal silver. Maybe this is what the manager of the store was trying to tell you? Maybe someone can lead you to an alternative web site that filters out the good from the bad. Best regards, Connie (granny) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Is this the same stuff as is in that SeaSilver vitamin stuff that is all the rage? Just wondering. I have one brother and another sister in law who think the Sea Silver is the best thing since sliced bread. But then...they have thought lots of things are the best since.... K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I never heard of the treatment, but all heavy metals including too much iron is poisoness. Silver is pretty up there on the weight scale of metals. I believe that this treatment was conceived by someone reading about gold treatments for arthritis. The gold treatment is not the heavy metal alone, it is a molecule in a salt which is just one part of the drug. This is important because the drug is designed to deliver the gold salts to the place where inflamation exists. Doctors recognize that gold treatments are toxic and only give them in limited doses for limited times. Otherwise kidney failure would occur. Kidney failure is just one of the pleasant things that happen when you get heavy metal poisoning. There is a reason that your multi mineral pills dosages are regulated by the FDA in the US and Health Canada in Canada. Your body does need some micro amounts of some minerals but even these minerals will kill you taken in large enough dosages. There was an episode on CSI awhile ago where the murderer used Selenium pills that the victim was taking to help prevent cancer. The murderer bought several bottles of pills, ground them up and put them in some food that the victim ate over a two week period. That was enough to do the job. The murderer thought that because the victim was taking Selenium anyway, she would not be caught. Your body does not need either silver or gold. If silver could reduce inflamation the same as gold salts, don't you think the drug companies would make a silver drug instead of a gold drug. It certainly would save them a lot of money and mean more profit. To me that is an indication that silver does not have the same anti-inflamatory properties as gold, but again that is just a guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Thank you so very much for your concern about the use of silver products. There are so many things out there that we each can't individually try them out. I am aware of the warnings of the FDA and also that it's in the best interest of companies which manufacture antibiotics to be sure that alternative methods are downplayed much as possible in the media. I have used colloidal silver minimally for many years just when an infection is getting a start to eliminate the need for months of antibiotics instead. I have mega infections that continue for many months and have found that a little of the silver is less expensive and less traumatic to my body as well. I also have heard of people who permanently turn their bodies blue through use of silver that is 'way outside any body's recommended dosage. It's the ones who abuse and over use who help to give it a bad name. There is a senator, in which state I can't remember, who in the onslaught of Y2K began to use colloidal silver in anticipation of not having antibiotics available. That was a blatant misuse of silver. It's intended to be used as a dosage of antibiotics would be used, not for an interminate amount of time. It's been such a help to me I wanted others to know it's out there and how much it can help in some situations. It performs MUCH better for me than antibiotics. I had to find it for myself and wanted to spare others the search. Whether a person uses it or not is an individual thing, as anything else we read here. I'm not on a campaign--just trying to be informative. No, I don't sell it nor do I have any intentions of doing so--just to use it judiociously for myself is my only intent. GA Always wear a smile--it makes folks wonder what you've been up to. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Hi Granny I must have missed this particular post from . I have never taken colloidal silver, but a very good friend swears by it. He makes his own and has used it for years. He hasn't turned blue yet-or gray. When he has the slightest sign of anything coming he mixes up some and down it goes. He even gives it to his cat and they are both very healthy. I think the same probably goes for this as any other med or alt. treatment. Works for some with or w/o side effects and doesn't work for others. Now, he could drop dead tomorrow, but for all we know we all could. I guess there has to be guinea pigs for everything. It is my understanding that is how all drugs are tested. In fact, they very well could be testing right now for silver. We don't usually know much about a drug until it is introduced on the market. As I said, I've never taken it-I declined when it was offered, but it could be okay. One never knows. Peggy Grannyof9@... wrote: Ga writes: <<Another thing I've found that I realize is very controversial> , I would take another look at Colloidal silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 In a message dated 1/14/03 12:14:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, countryms@... writes: > the best > interest of companies which manufacture antibiotics to be sure that > alternative methods are downplayed much as possible in the media. , if this was as good an antibiotic as all of its promoters claim, you can be assured that the pharmaceuticals would have it marketed as a drug. One of the obvious signs of quackery is when a product is tauted as a cure all. I opened at least 50 alternative health sites and all of them claimed that CS would cure just about anything someone has. I couldn't find one double blind study that is published on CS. (I'm almost positive that pharmaceuticals have tested it...on at least animals...and if there was any inclination that this would do what it claims...with minimal side effects...we would have double blind studies on humans before now. CS has had around for 100's of years. Many of the studies that I did find were not properly done or documented and they did not include a placebo. Most were testomonies from patients that were on a short course (no longer than 3 months) of CS. Drug companies do a lot of research before they go onto human research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 <A HREF= " http://colloidalsilversideeffects.html/ " >http://colloidalsilversideeffects\ ..html/</A> <A HREF= " http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/qakatak/a-elec2.htm " >Qakatak Article: More on dubious electrotherapy devices</A> <A HREF= " http://archinte.ama-assn.org/issues/v161n7/ffull/ilt0409-3.html " >Do Silver Alloy Catheters Increase the Risk of Systemic Argyria?</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Hi : as long as there is a problem out there, there will always be somebody taking advantage of us. Please be very weary of snake oil and colloidal silver. Anytime you hear "testamonials", to me that means there is no scientific proof. I am sure somebody will argue the point. But that's my opinion. take care, one man's opinion tedA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Thanks for the info validating my suspicions about this product & my decision not to use this even with my Drs. suggestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Karl, very intersting site. I was just curious since I have a dear friend that was using it for a gum disease. It seemed put the disease into a dormant stage for over a year. She ran out, didn't buy more and is back to the horrible treatments and loosing teeth and bone in her mouth. Of course she only used it as directed, and stopped for a short period after 10 days, but thought it might help with some nasal polyps. Don't think I will try. My friend with the bad gums is healthy otherwise so maybe that is why she got such good results? Thanks again for the heads up. -- Colloidal Silver Check out http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Re: Salicylate handkoob Has anyone ever used Colidal Silver nose spray for chronic infections and nasal polyps? Just learned about it yesterday and am intersted in any feed back. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 I dont wish to get stroppy , but every time someone mentiones something that seams to be helping them, there is a bombardment of agression about is it tested or researched, or there is no such thing as HIV. Well i must say my blood seroconverted to something and i dont realy care if its called HIV or pink rabbits. I use this site to get support, and share what works for me and hopefully will help others. Its all un-marked territory, and sometimes we have to be the ginnypigs to try new approaches to staying well with this virus(or what ever you want to call it). If some of you folks dont think you have HIV/AIDS then why the hell are you using this site, is it just to wind others up. Thats my ranting over, sorry if it offends, however i just wanted to clear up what piss's me off about how this site is sometimes used. With Love, Mikhailx PS , I use colloidal silver and zappers, and find them both very useful. On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:51:40 alltogethernow wrote: > Geez; you dissed CS for lack of studies, and then endorsed a bunch of >other supplements that lacked the same thing...... > > I have hcv, and very obvious symptoms if I don't work at keeping my >viral load down. When I drink CS, I have definately diminished symptoms. >That's my lab test. > > If you want an easy lab test of our own, set out two half glasses of >milk. fill one the rest of the way with water, and one with CS, and wait >and see which one spoils first. > > I also push CS up under my gums with a tb, and my gums have never >looked better, my cavaties have gone to zero progression, and my breath >is good- or rather, absent of bad- at least no one is complaining, and >it seems okay. > Putting CS in a water pic is another good practice. > > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 I don't mind you asking, and I don't mind telling you why I frequent this site, even though I am hcv, and not hiv+ I'm here because this phenomenon got my attention years ago, first,when my BIL contracted " hiv " in 1986 and developed aids and died in 1990. I did the math, and came out still scratching my head. When I learned later of my own problem, I instinctively began to research immunity issues, because I believe they hold the key to wellness, no matter what label. I have a friend right now who has aids,-(my opinion) and no hiv; he has " luekemia " . If you saw him, and you proscribed to the hiv/aids model, you would think that he has hiv/aids. He's 49, wasting, and the Drs are trying to jump start his immune system with a bone marrow trans. This person has been burning the candle at both ends for the last 30 years. Extremely poor nutrition and heavy drug use. As for my case, I have recovered from near liver failure because of holistic modalities, and I chose to be here because I relate to people who are doing holistic and " cutting edge " research, and I have something to contribute. People in this group are pioneers, and this is where I want to be, unless I'm not wanted, and if that is the case, I'll leave. Just as there are non-progressors in the hiv comm; so there are in the hcv comm; and I'm hoping to learn how and why, although I think I already know.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 I agree with you that some people on here actually have illnesses, but a huge amount of people don't and think that HIV is something they need to fight with any ridiculous snake oil that they can get their hands on, even if they're perfectly healthy. And fear is a disease that needs to be fought. I came here because I was brand new, mainstream, but decided that taking the drugs seemed like the stupidest thing one could possibly do. That's just from on perusal of the side effects. It was obviously poison, even to me when I barely knew about how it worked and have literally been headfucked all my life to believe that HIV kills and that only the drugs can prolong your life. So I wanted an alternative approach. Fortunately, it's this list that made me go out and research what HIV actually means... or rather, what it doesn't mean. I don't want people falling for that BS. I also don't want them searching for miracle cures for nothing. You think your blood seroconverted, but are you sick? Probably not. You might have been sick when you tested positive, but if you got better, than what's the damn point of fighting something that isn't real? You have antibodies... whatever you had, pink bunnies or otherwise, your body already dealt with it. It's good to be healthy, but we don't need to be Don Quixote fighting the imaginary windmills. Yeah, your blood seems to have some antibodies to something, but it certainly doesn't mean you have 'pink bunnies' that will kill you. It may simply mean that you got tested at the wrong time. The people who are here, should be asking about taking care of their real illnesses. Example: I have oral thrush and am looking for a holistic way of curing it. In that regard, this list is super. I certainly will use it for that kind of thing if I ever have a real problem. However, it's very important to question things and not just believe every person who comes along and says " Hey, I stuck an eight pound flounder up my ass and it cured my flu. " If it worked for them, it's good to know, but did it really and is there research to back it up? Actually, to be fair, I've done my share of questioning some things in a joking way... IE rebounding and drinking Urine. However, these things had actual studies behind them of more than just some anecdotal stories. We have to remember the placebo effect. Maybe Hulda's zapper works... or maybe it's just that some people are influenced enough that their belief cures them. But is it really safe to zap yourself with electricity like that? Especially when there's nothing wrong with you. Is it safe to take that much colloidal silver? Natural or no, you're still putting chemicals in your body that may be unnecessary. Why tax your liver just because you're scared? All I can say is that I'm grateful that people like Ed got me on the right track and gave me the dissident information. Otherwise, who knows where I would be? Half of the battle we're fighting is doubt and fear... not a friggin disease. Caer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Guys,thanks for your response to me e-mail,and for your honesty, I do not have a problem with you being here with hcv my friend(something my own body treated by itself some years ago).And i agree with what caer is saying about the treatment offered in mainstream being the most stupid thing ever to consider if one wishes to be healthy. to be honest I am confused about what this HIV thing is, and mabey still hurting from loosing so many friends(both on meds and not)to this disease. I think I actually feel much healthier since being diagnosed with HIV and i put that down to taking more care of myself, and contribute that to the fact of taking lots of different alternative things including the snake oil, well it was cockroach oil actually and it tasted so fowl i stopped(and still laugh at myself for taking it)I do agree that HIV does not always equal AIDS, but i am not able (yet) to just accept that its all a load of bollocks and do nothing about helping myself. I sometimes get fl ack from the mainstream folk for not complying, and felt the same was happening here for trying other aproaches to making myself healthier. Yes fear is a killer, but its not as easy to rid oneself of it just because someone else says so.There is room for all the things we are trying here, whether we accept we have the virus or not. with Love Mikhailx -- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:51:21 caerfree wrote: >I agree with you that some people on here actually have illnesses, but a >huge amount of people don't and think that HIV is something they need to >fight with any ridiculous snake oil that they can get their hands on, even >if they're perfectly healthy. And fear is a disease that needs to be >fought. > >I came here because I was brand new, mainstream, but decided that taking the >drugs seemed like the stupidest thing one could possibly do. That's just >from on perusal of the side effects. It was obviously poison, even to me >when I barely knew about how it worked and have literally been headfucked >all my life to believe that HIV kills and that only the drugs can prolong >your life. So I wanted an alternative approach. Fortunately, it's this list >that made me go out and research what HIV actually means... or rather, what >it doesn't mean. > >I don't want people falling for that BS. I also don't want them searching >for miracle cures for nothing. You think your blood seroconverted, but are >you sick? Probably not. You might have been sick when you tested positive, >but if you got better, than what's the damn point of fighting something that >isn't real? You have antibodies... whatever you had, pink bunnies or >otherwise, your body already dealt with it. It's good to be healthy, but we >don't need to be Don Quixote fighting the imaginary windmills. > >Yeah, your blood seems to have some antibodies to something, but it >certainly doesn't mean you have 'pink bunnies' that will kill you. It may >simply mean that you got tested at the wrong time. > >The people who are here, should be asking about taking care of their real >illnesses. Example: I have oral thrush and am looking for a holistic way >of curing it. In that regard, this list is super. I certainly will use it >for that kind of thing if I ever have a real problem. > >However, it's very important to question things and not just believe every >person who comes along and says " Hey, I stuck an eight pound flounder up my >ass and it cured my flu. " If it worked for them, it's good to know, but did >it really and is there research to back it up? > >Actually, to be fair, I've done my share of questioning some things in a >joking way... IE rebounding and drinking Urine. However, these things had >actual studies behind them of more than just some anecdotal stories. We >have to remember the placebo effect. Maybe Hulda's zapper works... or maybe >it's just that some people are influenced enough that their belief cures >them. But is it really safe to zap yourself with electricity like that? >Especially when there's nothing wrong with you. Is it safe to take that >much colloidal silver? Natural or no, you're still putting chemicals in >your body that may be unnecessary. Why tax your liver just because you're >scared? > >All I can say is that I'm grateful that people like Ed got me on the right >track and gave me the dissident information. Otherwise, who knows where I >would be? > >Half of the battle we're fighting is doubt and fear... not a friggin >disease. > >Caer > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 I'm sorry to have left out an important fact about my BIL. He was fine until the AZT. And the harder he crashed, the more drugs he was prescribed. That was a clue for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 That would be senator was adding salt to the water and creating a silver compound. A big no, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 ye i recon antivirals have killed more than cured. A lot of my friends died from AZT in the 80's, I think they were over dosed on the stuff. Its painful now watching friends go downhill who are on treatment, its a fucker. -- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:28:43 alltogethernow wrote: >I'm sorry to have left out an important fact about my BIL. He was fine >until the AZT. > And the harder he crashed, the more drugs he was prescribed. > That was a clue for me. > > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Im not sure whats too much ,Cory. I take 2 teaspoons full each day , and am still healthy pink. I do make my own though, the commercial stuff is a rip off they charge a fortune, for some thing that cost pennies to make. there is a good site from New Zealand that sell good c/s makers. They have just created a zapper that also makes c/s, i think it is on the crane / Rife theory. the name of the site is called " Altered states " there is some good stuff on it. Cheers, Mikhailx-- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:42:09 Cory Daehn wrote: >Did anyone see that guy running for senate that had taken too much homemade >colloidal silver and thus had his skin turned permanently blue? Does this >happen from the commercial products? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Hi , Saline acts as a catalyst and allows you to make colloidal silver faster. With the use of saline, you can make super high concentration solutions (5,000 ppm and higher). - info. from a booklet I got from the basic CS generator package - http://www.sunstoneherbals.com/cs-shop.htm I think more actual studies with charts, graphs and actual anti-biotic effects on specific pathogens should be done on CS - actual papers/ lab tests - are there any? If any one knows of any.....please share link. shalom, paul On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:32:26 -0700 " KDH " <kevin@...> writes: > Educate Me, > > What does adding salt do to a colloidal silver solution? Does it > make it > into a MSP (mild silver protein) that has been banned according to > the FDA. > I have written a page on colloidal silver in my website > waronaids.com. I > certainly do note that the Bob Beck Protocol uses colloidal silver > without > salt added while the Stuart protocol uses colloidal silver > with a > mild saline solution added. > > I have yet to see any toxic effects of colloidal silver. What I do > find are > HIV/AIDS and HCV cure claims associated with colloidal silver. > Certainly > colloidal silver is being touted to kill 650 known pathogens, and if > colloidal silver falls somewhere short of this claim it shouldn't be > any > wonder that any of the bacterial, fungal and viral infections > associated > with 30 AIDS conditions are killed by colloidal silver. However I > do not > find cure claims coming from a tablespoon or two a day, but in > ounces 4-8 > per day. > > Additionally there is some synergistic effect by combining colloidal > silver > with hydrogen peroxide, it fizzes when one does so. Apparently the > claims > being made here are that it can make the killing power of both > substances up > to 100 times more effective. Having said that both the Bob Beck > Protocol > and the Stuart protocol both engage colloidal silver and > the > singlet oxygen free radical; Beck in the form of ozone and > in the > form of hydrogen peroxide (synergized with colloidal silver). > > Relative to what testing HIV positive is. I'm a follower of the > oxidative > stress theory of AIDS meaning that one has a serious oxidative > disorder by > testing HIV positive. This theory certainly has been around since > the HIV > theory and has been discusses at international AIDS conferences. An > Oxidative stress model for HIV and AIDS changes the nature of > treatment, to > one of antioxidants. It has well been proven at this point that > antioxidants keep HIV viral loads at bay, even Fauci our > world AIDS > leader has proven this. > > In terms of curing HIV, I have to say this. It really does not > matter that > HIV has not been proven to exist according to the scientific > standards set > out to identify a new retrovirus, or that HIV has never been proven > to cause > AIDS in the first place. If one wants to be HIV negative, they > simply back > out of the diagnosis, serorevert to HIV negative by the exact > process for > which they were diagnosed HIV positive. While it may be significant > that > individuals are being bombarded with an oversimplified HIV causes > AIDS > scientific model in the absence of real scientific proof, it is more > significant that the medical community has stepped over the line > with deadly > prescription medications that can and will kill and individual > within given > periods of time; genocide, iatrogenicide and pharacogenicide. It is > very > scientifically well know how long these medications take to kill an > individual in means and medians, however this fact is rarely > presented, > certainly a good basis for a negligence lawsuit. > > Many of you know that I have been around for a while now and am here > to > prove that HIV can be cured. So far I have witnesses ONE AIDS cure > from > this group. What are you people doing? Let me tell you again: In > the > early 90's it became known that aggressive natural healing > (hypothermia > (fever stimulation with he cold sheet treatment), body cleansing: > bowels, > liver and kidneys, hot and cold hydrotherapy, vegan diets, juicing, > juice > fasting, medicinal plants) based on the work of Dr. Schulze > could > bring END STAGE AIDS patients back to complete health and enable > some to > serorevert to HIV-. Then in the mid to late 90's it became known > that > advanced medicinal protocols particularly Bob Beck using ozone, > hydrogen > peroxide, colloidal silver, and bio-magnetism and electro medicine > could > enable again END STAGE AIDS patients to regain their health and > serorevert > to HIV NEGATIVE. These are two entirely different approaches > securing the > exact same results. > > To state that HIV and/or AIDS has not been cured is simply not true. > Curing > HIV and AIDS is really a done deal. However we should not expect a > cure for > either HIV or AIDS to come from a medical community that not only > got the > causation incorrect but also has ONLY drugs and surgery as a > solution for > all ills. > > Webmaster Kev > waronaids.com > > Not intended as medical advice, but for research and education > purposes > only. Copyright 2003, Henningsen, . > > > Re: Colloidal Silver > > > > That would be senator was adding salt to the water and creating a > silver > > compound. A big no, no. > > > > > > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Educate Me, What does adding salt do to a colloidal silver solution? Does it make it into a MSP (mild silver protein) that has been banned according to the FDA. I have written a page on colloidal silver in my website waronaids.com. I certainly do note that the Bob Beck Protocol uses colloidal silver without salt added while the Stuart protocol uses colloidal silver with a mild saline solution added. I have yet to see any toxic effects of colloidal silver. What I do find are HIV/AIDS and HCV cure claims associated with colloidal silver. Certainly colloidal silver is being touted to kill 650 known pathogens, and if colloidal silver falls somewhere short of this claim it shouldn't be any wonder that any of the bacterial, fungal and viral infections associated with 30 AIDS conditions are killed by colloidal silver. However I do not find cure claims coming from a tablespoon or two a day, but in ounces 4-8 per day. Additionally there is some synergistic effect by combining colloidal silver with hydrogen peroxide, it fizzes when one does so. Apparently the claims being made here are that it can make the killing power of both substances up to 100 times more effective. Having said that both the Bob Beck Protocol and the Stuart protocol both engage colloidal silver and the singlet oxygen free radical; Beck in the form of ozone and in the form of hydrogen peroxide (synergized with colloidal silver). Relative to what testing HIV positive is. I'm a follower of the oxidative stress theory of AIDS meaning that one has a serious oxidative disorder by testing HIV positive. This theory certainly has been around since the HIV theory and has been discusses at international AIDS conferences. An Oxidative stress model for HIV and AIDS changes the nature of treatment, to one of antioxidants. It has well been proven at this point that antioxidants keep HIV viral loads at bay, even Fauci our world AIDS leader has proven this. In terms of curing HIV, I have to say this. It really does not matter that HIV has not been proven to exist according to the scientific standards set out to identify a new retrovirus, or that HIV has never been proven to cause AIDS in the first place. If one wants to be HIV negative, they simply back out of the diagnosis, serorevert to HIV negative by the exact process for which they were diagnosed HIV positive. While it may be significant that individuals are being bombarded with an oversimplified HIV causes AIDS scientific model in the absence of real scientific proof, it is more significant that the medical community has stepped over the line with deadly prescription medications that can and will kill and individual within given periods of time; genocide, iatrogenicide and pharacogenicide. It is very scientifically well know how long these medications take to kill an individual in means and medians, however this fact is rarely presented, certainly a good basis for a negligence lawsuit. Many of you know that I have been around for a while now and am here to prove that HIV can be cured. So far I have witnesses ONE AIDS cure from this group. What are you people doing? Let me tell you again: In the early 90's it became known that aggressive natural healing (hypothermia (fever stimulation with he cold sheet treatment), body cleansing: bowels, liver and kidneys, hot and cold hydrotherapy, vegan diets, juicing, juice fasting, medicinal plants) based on the work of Dr. Schulze could bring END STAGE AIDS patients back to complete health and enable some to serorevert to HIV-. Then in the mid to late 90's it became known that advanced medicinal protocols particularly Bob Beck using ozone, hydrogen peroxide, colloidal silver, and bio-magnetism and electro medicine could enable again END STAGE AIDS patients to regain their health and serorevert to HIV NEGATIVE. These are two entirely different approaches securing the exact same results. To state that HIV and/or AIDS has not been cured is simply not true. Curing HIV and AIDS is really a done deal. However we should not expect a cure for either HIV or AIDS to come from a medical community that not only got the causation incorrect but also has ONLY drugs and surgery as a solution for all ills. Webmaster Kev waronaids.com Not intended as medical advice, but for research and education purposes only. Copyright 2003, Henningsen, . Re: Colloidal Silver > That would be senator was adding salt to the water and creating a silver > compound. A big no, no. > > > > > Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 Interesting e-mail ,much food for thought there to consider. I make my solution of c/s by heating distilled H2o to 70 degree(ish)and then using a 9v c/s maker for about 30- 40 minutes, then straining through an unbleached coffee filter into a brown glass bottle 250ML.By morning the solution is a golden colour(I am told this is because the solution has oxidated?not sure on that one). I have used c/s for around 10 years and have found it to be very useful for many situations even sterilizing kitchen tops), Its great for infected wounds. I personally would be nervous of taking it in the amounts you are suggesting but would be interested in any other words of wisdom around colloidal silver. With Love, Mikhailx -- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:32:26 KDH wrote: >Educate Me, > >What does adding salt do to a colloidal silver solution? Does it make it >into a MSP (mild silver protein) that has been banned according to the FDA. >I have written a page on colloidal silver in my website waronaids.com. I >certainly do note that the Bob Beck Protocol uses colloidal silver without >salt added while the Stuart protocol uses colloidal silver with a >mild saline solution added. > >I have yet to see any toxic effects of colloidal silver. What I do find are >HIV/AIDS and HCV cure claims associated with colloidal silver. Certainly >colloidal silver is being touted to kill 650 known pathogens, and if >colloidal silver falls somewhere short of this claim it shouldn't be any >wonder that any of the bacterial, fungal and viral infections associated >with 30 AIDS conditions are killed by colloidal silver. However I do not >find cure claims coming from a tablespoon or two a day, but in ounces 4-8 >per day. > >Additionally there is some synergistic effect by combining colloidal silver >with hydrogen peroxide, it fizzes when one does so. Apparently the claims >being made here are that it can make the killing power of both substances up >to 100 times more effective. Having said that both the Bob Beck Protocol >and the Stuart protocol both engage colloidal silver and the >singlet oxygen free radical; Beck in the form of ozone and in the >form of hydrogen peroxide (synergized with colloidal silver). > >Relative to what testing HIV positive is. I'm a follower of the oxidative >stress theory of AIDS meaning that one has a serious oxidative disorder by >testing HIV positive. This theory certainly has been around since the HIV >theory and has been discusses at international AIDS conferences. An >Oxidative stress model for HIV and AIDS changes the nature of treatment, to >one of antioxidants. It has well been proven at this point that >antioxidants keep HIV viral loads at bay, even Fauci our world AIDS >leader has proven this. > >In terms of curing HIV, I have to say this. It really does not matter that >HIV has not been proven to exist according to the scientific standards set >out to identify a new retrovirus, or that HIV has never been proven to cause >AIDS in the first place. If one wants to be HIV negative, they simply back >out of the diagnosis, serorevert to HIV negative by the exact process for >which they were diagnosed HIV positive. While it may be significant that >individuals are being bombarded with an oversimplified HIV causes AIDS >scientific model in the absence of real scientific proof, it is more >significant that the medical community has stepped over the line with deadly >prescription medications that can and will kill and individual within given >periods of time; genocide, iatrogenicide and pharacogenicide. It is very >scientifically well know how long these medications take to kill an >individual in means and medians, however this fact is rarely presented, >certainly a good basis for a negligence lawsuit. > >Many of you know that I have been around for a while now and am here to >prove that HIV can be cured. So far I have witnesses ONE AIDS cure from >this group. What are you people doing? Let me tell you again: In the >early 90's it became known that aggressive natural healing (hypothermia >(fever stimulation with he cold sheet treatment), body cleansing: bowels, >liver and kidneys, hot and cold hydrotherapy, vegan diets, juicing, juice >fasting, medicinal plants) based on the work of Dr. Schulze could >bring END STAGE AIDS patients back to complete health and enable some to >serorevert to HIV-. Then in the mid to late 90's it became known that >advanced medicinal protocols particularly Bob Beck using ozone, hydrogen >peroxide, colloidal silver, and bio-magnetism and electro medicine could >enable again END STAGE AIDS patients to regain their health and serorevert >to HIV NEGATIVE. These are two entirely different approaches securing the >exact same results. > >To state that HIV and/or AIDS has not been cured is simply not true. Curing >HIV and AIDS is really a done deal. However we should not expect a cure for >either HIV or AIDS to come from a medical community that not only got the >causation incorrect but also has ONLY drugs and surgery as a solution for >all ills. > >Webmaster Kev >waronaids.com > >Not intended as medical advice, but for research and education purposes >only. Copyright 2003, Henningsen, . > > > Re: Colloidal Silver > > >> That would be senator was adding salt to the water and creating a silver >> compound. A big no, no. >> >> >> >> >> Read AIDS-Cured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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