Which curing or pain relief methods and ideas?

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

My father was diagnosed recently with a metastatic liver cancer. Normal

medicine cannot cure it. Father is getting in the stage that the

pain becomes too much to bare with paracetamol.

I am not looking for a miricale cure (although would be happy to find

one), just any idea to relieve the pain, have less constipation, less

vomiting and if possible reducing the growth of the tumor in father's

liver (the size of the tumor is pressing on other organs and giving the

pain)

Thanks

SK

How father is coping and we are helping at:

Metastatic Liver Cancer <http://www.metastaticlivercancer.org>

[Guest guest]

Drkelley.com a book you can read on line and dr clark also has several on line

you can read. There's more than the cancer video's I added to youtube.com to

watch for info.

I also just posted a new link of videos from nova. The pbs station to watch.

For pain check into the organic coffee enemas found in dr Gerson's books and

several other's. But I think you need to know if the bile ducts are blocked.

A lot of pain is lack of minerals and omaga 3. [Castor oil packs can

help to relieve pain sometimes. Google those words and Google " coffee enemas "

for directions.]

Blessings

Debbie---

weeseekim888 wrote:

> My father was diagnosed recently with a metastatic liver cancer. Normal

medicine cannot cure it. Father is getting in the stage that the pain becomes

too much to bare with paracetamol.....

>

[Guest guest]

The following are the things that I've heard can be PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE for

pain relief:

" DLPA [DL-phenylalanine] or high dose menadione. 75% of the time it works as

well as morphine....DLPA can be picked up at the many/most vitamin stores.

Usual dose is about 3 grams per day until pain is gone..slows the catabolism of

the body's endorphins. Once management is achieved modulate at about 500mg per

day.

Menadione (vit K3)....is harder to find. It is easily available in tablet or

injectable form in Mexico..Use levels in the 20-30 mg range IV or IM once a

day.The injection dose is 20-50mg as the bisulfite. Bisulfites make useful

addition products for aldehydes and methyl ketones. They are used as

preservatives for wines, salads, etc. A few people have a sensitivity but I

haven't seen it. Most physicians are afraid that they'll turn the blood to jello

with this much K3. This isn't true. Chickens have been given 1,000 times the

normal physiological dose of K3 and the only effect is that the

blood clotting time is shortened by half. Some blood thinners can sometimes be

used with K3 but you must be careful using blood thinners with cancer

patients....[Menadione] is best used with Vit C [ & lipoic acid] " (

Gammill, vgammill@... [www.natural-oncology.org], 7/26/04)

" Yugoslavian research in the mid 50's showed works as well as morphine for

cancer patients 75% of the time. I have routinely observed pain reduction with

menadione..Most physicians are afraid to use it in therapeutic dosages as part

of an oncology protocol as they fear undesired blood clotting. This fear is

unfounded. I often use dosages of over 100mg as the bisulfite which makes it

water soluble " Gammill, 1/11/05

" I used to be significantly sensitive to sulfites and bisulfites. However,

with.MSM (6 grams/day).I can now tolerate sulfites. MSM is a natural sulphur

compound "

*Relevit (Letstalkhealth.com or Donsbach.com)

mushrooms-- maitake (alleviated pain in 83% of patients), cordyceps,

shiitake & reishi

Yan Hu Suo--from Chinese fumewort; " has been compared to morphine "

www.naturalhealthconsult.com/Monographs/yanhusuo.html

Tramadol (Ultram)- " endorsed by [LEF.org] as the pain med of choice for

cancer patients.does not depress the immune system, instead increasing

natural killer cell activity "

www.ortho-mcneil.com/products/pi/pdfs/ultram.pdf (Prescribing information)

http://search.lef.org/src-cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=7 & EXTRA_ARG= & CFGNAME=Mss

Find%2Ecfg & host_id=42 & page_id=8913920 & query=tramadol & hiword=tramadol+

Noni juice-- " Gerson [M.D.] states that this product is 70% as

effective as morphine "

SPES-- " more effective than morphine " ( Yance, 1999, p. 165); by

Botaniclab (800-242-5555)

castor oil packs, coffee enemas, colonics, and other detox methods

dental detox-- elimination of dental infections (consult a holistic dentist)

*Pain Control audio by Hemi-Sync (www.hemi-sync.com/catalog)-- I've been told

they can be powerfully pain-relieving. I might also consider their Cancer

Support Series, Surgical Support Series, and De-Discomfort.

" Dr. Rowen in his newsletter Second Opinion, wrote about the

remarkable results obtained by simply exerting a slight pressure on the edge of

a muscle or tendon...applied in a 90 degree direction perpendicular to its line

of force. This results in a relaxation of the muscle or tendon....originated by

Tom Bowen....can be used for Muscle sprains, carpal tunnel..., elbow problems,

PMS, menopause, fibroids, prostate problems, sciatica, migraines, ear problems

....TMJ...respiratory problems and even

organ dysfunctions....Bowen Registry...866-862-6936.... USBR@...) "

germanium-132 (Ge-132)-- very effective pain reliever; take moderate to large

doses ONLY under supervision of physician

cesium-- use ONLY under medical supervision; " severe pain from prostate

cancer.disappeared a couple of days after he began the cesium. Before that, he

was on morphine " ; May take up to 3 days to be effective. For more info " The Pain

of Terminal Cancer on pp. 313- of _Painfree in Six Weeks_ by Sherry ;

reprinted at www.getandstaywell.com/archive32.shtml "

magnets-- see Diamond et al. (1997, pp. 1032-1046)

Rife machines, Hulda 's " zapper "

Reiki & other energy healing, visualization/imagery, meditation, & relaxation

techniques, acupuncture & acupressure, neural therapy

polarizing treatment (GKI), Emotion Freedom Technique (EFT) (www.emofree.com)

The following are other things I've heard can be helpful for pain relief:

flaxseed oil mixed w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC) or yogurt

cherries, lettuce, tempeh & fermented soy products-- reduces inflammation, fish

oil, herbs, Flor-Essence/Essiac

purple cone flower-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

lobelia-- www.theherbfinder.com/index

angelica, Pau d'Arco, goldenseal root, poultices, echinacea,

mistletoe (e.g., Iscador)-- use only under medical supervision

chaparral--check with a practitioner on hazards before using it

Pain caused by inflammation can be reduced by anti-inflammatory herbs (e.g.,

turmeric/curcumin, burdock, ginger)

vitamins---Vitamin B-3 (Niacin)-- 50 mg, up to 6x/day (in Gerson therapy), Vit.

C-- I've seen 500 mg, 6x/day recommended, Vit. K

amygdalin/Laetrile-- relieves pain, nausea, and vomiting. Available in the form

of ground apricot pits. Do NOT exceed recommended oral dosage, and do NOT use

Laetrile/amygdalin at times of fever. Take it with food, in several small

dosages throughout the day (NOT 1 large dosage). Use a good brand.

COX-2 inhibitors

juice fasting-- see

www.64.106.220.190/fasting_book/fighting%20cancer%20with%20fasting.htm

liver, kidney, & parasites cleanses

DMSO, homeopathic remedies-- particularly Aconitum (1M or 10M dose)

poly-MVA, hydrazine sulfate, CoQ10-- at least 200mg/day

protease (bromelain & pancreatin)--reduce inflammation if taken on empty

stomach, alkalinzing one's body, prayer, exercise,

For more info on mind-body approaches,

www.annieappleseedproject.org/painfordealw.html

For more info on cancer pain relief, see

http://www.lef.org/protocols/health_concerns/chronic_pain_01.htm

www.alkalizeforhealth.org

www.healingcancernaturally.com/cancer-pain-management-relief.html

www.annieappleseedproject.org/painstudies.html

www.stopcancer.com/pain.htm

www.painsupport.co.uk (natural methods; not specifically cancer)

www.mercola.com/2003/dec/20/pain_relief.htm

For healing cancer, it's best (if possible) to AVOID/minimize the use of opiates

and chemical painkillers not listed above.

[Guest guest]

--Leonard: Thank you for being a wealth of information. I started

taking the DLPA and took 4gms instead of the three you mentioned

thought I read 5 to start. oh well. What would be your first choice

for twinges not really actual pain? Thank you again for all this

information. Frann

" Leonard " <leonardleonard1@...> wrote:

>

> The following are the things that I've heard can be PARTICULARLY

EFFECTIVE for pain relief:

>

> " DLPA [DL-phenylalanine] or high dose menadione. 75% of the time it

works as well as morphine....DLPA can be picked up at the many/most

vitamin stores. Usual dose is about 3 grams per day until pain is

gone..slows the catabolism of the body's endorphins. Once management

is achieved modulate at about 500mg per day.

>