cholesterol

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

My cholesterol levels are high and have been since I've had hyper-T. Previously

they were in the low normal range.

MA

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Just for the record, , I was hyperT and had very high cholesterol. It was

266 last year and I got it down to 220 last month by eating oat bran in the

morning. But I don't think low cholesterol caused your hyperT. It sounds

like you were a bit overenthusiastic with some of the supplements you were

taking. Thanks for the info re: copper toxicity. And I find it

interesting that you are not curious about your TSH T3/T4... But I am pleased

that you feel well and are " researching " this mineral deficiency theory. I

hope you're right about it!!

Esther

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

since i've had hyper T my Cholesterol has been great! last month it was 105.

Doc said thats the only good thing about thyroid problems it keeps your

cholesterol down, mine did for sure.

sandy

______________________________________________________________________

NextCard Internet VISA - 2.9% intro APR

Earn free airline tickets WITH DOUBLE Rew@rds points.

http://ads./click/63/0/nextcard

[Guest guest]

and Everyone,

My LDL cholesterol is low, however, my HDL cholesterol is low also, while my

triclyerides are high. My heart doctor told me my heart risk factors were

tied

to my low HDL and high Triclyerides and that most people suffering thyroid

problems had high triclyerides. Also, a factor in determining high risk heart

attack is the VL/LDL ratio. I feel that I have thyroid problems BECAUSE I

allowed myself to start medication of Premarin and Provera in 1985 and then

consented to a total hysterecomy in 1991, then took just Premarin for the past

7 years. I sincerely believe I could have avoided all of it had I been more

concerned about probing and understanding my health and less trusting of a

doctors word. I feel the hormones have contributed to the destroying of my

thyroid gland, thus now, Hashimotos. Just some food for thought!!

______________________________________________________________________

No tricks, no gimmicks - just a great intro rate for Internet users!

NextCard Internet VISA -- Apply online now!

http://ads./click/63/1/nextcard

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

In response to your question regarding low cholesterol and thyroid disorders:

my understanding is that low cholesterol is actually a symptom of

hyperthyroidism. With the point you're bringing up, possibly visa versa. I

honestly don't know about hypothryoidism and cholesterol.

My cholesterol has always been low, but dropped even more about the time I was

diagnosed this past June It was 127 in June. Two years ago, it had been 147.

About 10 years ago, it was 176.

I would think that there is literature out there on this topic.

Unfortunately, where I am at the moment, I don't have the capability to log

onto the web for a literature search.

Take care,

Vivian

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Just got the results of most recent bloodwork and must confess that I am very

disappointed. My TSH is still 0, and my T4 levels have gone up slightly from

14.3 to 15.2. My cholesterol level has risen from mid-normal to high end normal

(193), the highest it has ever been. T3 is 40,(24-39)unchanged. I had hoped that

there would be even a slight improvement by now, with taking both the

supplements(almost five weeks now) and 300mg PTU daily. I'm seeing my Endo in a

few days. He is a great guy and sees RAI as an absolute desperate situation and

is not even considering it at the moment, so I am thankful for that.

I'm interested to know if anybody has had an actual improvement in their T3,T4

and TSH. Two months I had a normal glucose level and today the results came in

at 133(65-115), so I hope I'm not looking at the possibility of diabetes now.

I'm not feeling at all sure that the supplementation is doing me any good.I have

more energy, without doubt, but the bloodwork speaks for itself.

I,d appreciate any thoughts!!!

Liz

>Just for the record, , I was hyperT and had very high cholesterol. It was

> 266 last year and I got it down to 220 last month by eating oat bran in the

> morning. But I don't think low cholesterol caused your hyperT. It sounds

> like you were a bit overenthusiastic with some of the supplements you were

> taking. Thanks for the info re: copper toxicity. And I find it

> interesting that you are not curious about your TSH T3/T4... But I am pleased

> that you feel well and are " researching " this mineral deficiency theory. I

> hope you're right about it!!

>

> Esther

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

, I have been donating blood for 2 or more years, and everytime I donate,

they check my cholesterol and send me the results in the mail. so I've been

keeping a record of it...see what you think. These are the results:

10/96----221

12/96---190

2/97----218

4/97----231

6/97---193

8/97---232

11/97--219

1/98---214

3/98---221

5/98---194

8/98---259--------this is about the time when I found out that I had low

thyroid. I am going to give blood next week, and am anxious to see what it

will be, because I have always been very careful about what I eat, and it

seems like the more I watch what I eat, now, the higher my chol. has gotten.

The same with my weight. I know these are not really high readings, but for me

they are, seeing that my level was at 140 to 170 a few years ago.. Something

caused it to get higher...maybe this low-fat craze.

I also have a hard time with my iron when I donate. Most of the time I have to

return because of a low iron count...normal for giving blood is 12.5 and I

run about 11.5 to 11.9. I am anxious to see if the kelp has helped my iron

level

Chris

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

From looking at your Cholesterol levels, they are very high.

Are you taking anything for it?

Does your doctor know how high they are?

Are you saying that it's the thyroid that causes high cholesterol?

sandy

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Dina..your numbers still indicate hyperthyroidism and I have about the

same cholesterol level that you mentioned. I agree that stress plays a big

role in this condition. Can you make any life style changes or can you begin

doing yoga or therapy to help with that issue?

I would give up the butter and eggs and eat oat bran. My cholesterol went

down twenty points since eating Cheerios and oat bran cereals for breakfast.

Good luck

Esther

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Dear Dina,

You can eat all the eggs and butter you want, as long as you don't eat any

sugar. Cholesterol in your body is not caused by the amount of fat you eat,

or the kind of fats, but rather by a chemical reaction between the fat and

the sugar. I know this because my husband is on the Atkins' diet, which is

eat all the fat you want, but don't eat sugar. He eats tons of fat, but no

sugar at all, and his cholesterol is about 120. I have a sweet tooth (I'm

always trying to give up sugar, but haven't been able to do it for longer

than a few months at a time), so I hardly eat any fat. I do eat some,

because we all need some, but I keep to healthy fats like olive oil, and

maybe three eggs a week. My cholesterol is consistently in the 160 range.

Have you been eating sugar along with the butter and eggs? If you have, I

would give up the sugar rather than the butter and eggs, as the butter and

eggs are healthier than the sugar (they have lots of nutrient value, whereas

the sugar has none). If you haven't been eating any sugar, then maybe I need

to revisit this theory.

Hope you feel better,

AntJoan

------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

I'm somewhat surprised at your doctor for prescribing Lipitor for you but

not stunned. Numerous times I've been given prescriptions for drugs that

are absolutely out of the question and even dangerous for people with liver

disease. My Hepatologist told me to always check with him before I take

anything another doctor prescribed. You were probably lucky that you had

an " incident " and stopped taking the drug on your own. Please, be very

wary about any new drugs you're prescribed unless they're prescribed by a

Hepatologist or someone who is very familiar with liver disease. My

understanding is that the cholesterol lowering drugs and all

anti-inflammatory drugs, especially Naproxen, should be avoided like the

plague. Yet, people in this group are being prescribed these meds all of

the time. Your pharmacy is supposed to do a computer cross check, should

be aware of your medical condition (liver disease) and should warn you that

you have been prescribed potentially harmful meds. Ours has asked us if we

have any chronic medical conditions and have also warned us not to take new

drugs when they see a potential problem when taken with other meds or our

condition. Ask your pharmacy if they can do this, though I suspect that

they might even be required to do so by law.

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

,

beats me, just saying what my doc said, a little doubtful about it myself.

J

>From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

>Reply- onelist

> onelist

>Subject: Re: [ ] Darvocet

>Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 17:37:13 -0700

>MIME-Version: 1.0

>From errors-165537-6119-shireen42 Tue Sep 07 17:47:21 1999

>Received: from [209.207.164.247] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id

>MHotMailB99EFD180053D82197B2D1CFA4F70A650; Tue Sep 07 17:47:21 1999

>Received: (qmail 14163 invoked by alias); 8 Sep 1999 00:47:58 -0000

>Received: (qmail 14136 invoked from network); 8 Sep 1999 00:47:56 -0000

>Received: from unknown (HELO mail.ptinet.net) (208.157.241.5) by

>pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 1999 00:47:56 -0000

>Received: from ptinet.net (ppp029.mon.centuryinter.net [209.206.163.60]) by

>mail.ptinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22108 for

>< onelist>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:47:54 -0700 (PDT)

>Message-ID: <37D5AFB9.5F25E8FC@...>

>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I)

>References: <19990907230024.95667.qmail@...>

>Mailing-List: list onelist; contact

> -owneronelist

>Delivered-mailing list onelist

>Precedence: bulk

>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist>

>

>From: Lynn <CEN32195@...>

>

>, I always thought that the liver disease aided bad cholesterol, am I

>all

>we on this one or what? Lynn

>

>susan johnson wrote:

>

> > From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...>

> >

> > Thank you for your response . I am disappointed tho. Dont know

>what

> > to take for pain. My doc put me on cholesterol lowering med called

>baycol.

> > Have had tummy pains and now muscle pains since taking it. Tried

>lipitor,

> > but that did not work out for me either. What to do, what to do. My

> > cholesterol is over 300 and I follow low chol diet. Doc thinks getting

>my

> > cholesterol in check will improve liver function.

> >

> > J

> >

> > >From: La7de@...

> > >Reply- onelist

> > > onelist

> > >Subject: Re: [ ] Darvocet

> > >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:30:46 EDT

> > >MIME-Version: 1.0

> > >From errors-165537-6108-shireen42 Tue Sep 07 15:31:01 1999

> > >Received: from [209.207.164.243] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id

> > >MHotMailB99EDD240107D82197CBD1CFA4F30A780; Tue Sep 07 15:31:01 1999

> > >Received: (qmail 23790 invoked by alias); 7 Sep 1999 22:30:59 -0000

> > >Received: (qmail 23761 invoked from network); 7 Sep 1999 22:30:59 -0000

> > >Received: from unknown (HELO imo20.mx.aol.com) (198.81.17.10) by

> > >pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 7 Sep 1999 22:30:59 -0000

> > >Received: from La7de@... by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id

> > >hSXTa28691 (4540) for < onelist>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999

> > >18:30:46 -0400 (EDT)

> > >Message-ID: <fb089a8f.2506ec16@...>

> > >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22

> > >Mailing-List: list onelist; contact

> > > -owneronelist

> > >Delivered-mailing list onelist

> > >Precedence: bulk

> > >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist>

> > >

> > >From: La7de@...

> > >

> > >Hi all,

> > >

> > >I looked Darvocet up in the PDR (Physician's Desk Reference). It says

>that

> > >it has been associated with abnormal liver function tests and jaundice!

> > >Sounds like a hepatoxin to me!!!

> > >

> > > (AIH)

> > >

> > >---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I have been reading the posts about high cholesterol and liver disease and I

really think the Prednisone has caused mine to be high. When I was sick and

in the process of being diagnosed a couple of months ago, all my enzymes were

abnormal, but cholesterol was normal. It was 130. Once I started taking the

Prednisone two weeks later it was 190 and another two weeks it was 220 and I

am certain my diet hasn't changed. I have even really been watching it more

now than before. So now all my enzymes are normal and the cholesterol is

high.

I thought I read that the Prednisone could cause high cholesterol. Does

anybody know?

Audra

[Guest guest]

Hi Audra,

Yes, prednisone causes high cholesterol. How high varies from person to

person - just like all the other prednisone side effects vary.

[Guest guest]

I think that the cholesterol may contribute to that. When i was going

through the worst part of my liver disease my cholesterol too was 120-130

and my triglycerides were like 70. And that is a fact that with liver

disease usually those numbers are low. Lori C. AIH Liver tx

3~11~97

Re: [ ] cholesterol

>From: ADilli5783@...

>

>I have been reading the posts about high cholesterol and liver disease and

I

>really think the Prednisone has caused mine to be high. When I was sick

and

>in the process of being diagnosed a couple of months ago, all my enzymes

were

>abnormal, but cholesterol was normal. It was 130. Once I started taking

the

>Prednisone two weeks later it was 190 and another two weeks it was 220 and

I

>am certain my diet hasn't changed. I have even really been watching it

more

>now than before. So now all my enzymes are normal and the cholesterol is

>high.

>

>I thought I read that the Prednisone could cause high cholesterol. Does

>anybody know?

>

>Audra

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Lori,

I'm confused about the cholesterol/triglycerides issue. Both of mine have

been elevated since I first started getting sick and cholesterol continues

to be elevated though triglycerides are normal recently. I thought I'd

read that liver disease causes elevated cholesterol, but apparently your

experience is otherwise. Since you've been through the " ultimate "

experience with liver disease, you're definitely more of an authority than

I am. All I see are the numbers on my lab tests. Only recently have I had

access to my pre-AIH records and both were normal just 6 months before my

AIH diagnosis and both have been elevated ever since until the recent

reduction in triglycerides. It's easy to blame everything on our liver

disease when in fact, I'd be presumptuous to assume that I couldn't simply

have high cholesterol because it's developed with time and not connected to

AIH or meds at all. I haven't asked my doctor about high cholesterol for

months, since he told me I can't take Zocor or similar drugs and that I

don't have to worry about the elevations. I have only rarely had elevated

blood pressure and it's never been alarmingly high, so maybe that's what

he's looking at?

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

According to information on the ALF site, the liver is responsible for

" controlling the production and excretion of cholesterol " . When I was

really ill and at the time I was diagnosed, my cholesterol was really

low - 138. It had been in the 190-210 range for years prior to my

illness.

Once I started treatment with prednisone and Imuran, it went up as high

as 280. The last time I had it checked it was back to the 190 level, so

maybe my liver is sufficiently recovered to perform this function

properly. I hope that is the case since it appears we can't take

medications for high cholesterol anyway.

[Guest guest]

I am always told to not eat up to 12 hours before labs. Lynn aih

barbara ann wrote:

> From: barbara ann <barbara99ann@...>

>

> Hi Geri,

> I don't have a history of high cholesterol. I mention

> this, in case it has a bearing.

> I looked at my labs before I got really sick. My

> cholesterol and triglycerides were in the low normal

> range.

> A month before my transplant, my cholesterol dropped

> to 50, there was a notation stating it was too low.

> The normal range was up to 200. Since my transplant

> 12/94, it has been at 208 a couple of times, but

> mostly it hovers around 160, triglycerides 65. While

> I was taking pred. it averaged around 180. I don't

> know what to think as far as any relation to liver

> disease. We seem to be all over the place on this

> one.

> I thought you mentioned that you eat before labs,

> correct me if I'm wrong. If so, I think the only way

> to get a true reading is to have labs on an empty

> stomach. Perhaps someone in the know could clarify.

> Curious,

> Barbara Ann

> AIH Transplant Recipient

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Barbara, My transplant center told me to get a correct reading on labs,

especially cholesterol, triglycerides, and glucose a person should be

fasting, and fasting at my center is evening meal before 7:00 p.m. and

nothing to eat after that, if so a light snack, and nothing to drink after

midnight. They told me that way if you have your blood drawn between 7:00

a.m. and 9:00 a.m. the next morning you are at least 12 hours without food.

This was very hard fer me before transplant. When the liver disease was the

worst, I would get very sick by the time I had my labs drawn, but I did it

to get accurate labs. I am currently getting my labs done every 3 weeks

because I am on the taper to be weaned off the prednisone. I am almost

there. I have 20 days to go!! Hope this helps. I know each center is

different, but I still think it is the only way to get accurate labs, is to

be fasting.

Lori C. AIH Liver Tx 3~11~97. Remember " No one should go through this

alone. "

[ ] cholesterol

>From: barbara ann <barbara99ann@...>

>

>Hi Geri,

>I don't have a history of high cholesterol. I mention

>this, in case it has a bearing.

>I looked at my labs before I got really sick. My

>cholesterol and triglycerides were in the low normal

>range.

>A month before my transplant, my cholesterol dropped

>to 50, there was a notation stating it was too low.

>The normal range was up to 200. Since my transplant

>12/94, it has been at 208 a couple of times, but

>mostly it hovers around 160, triglycerides 65. While

>I was taking pred. it averaged around 180. I don't

>know what to think as far as any relation to liver

>disease. We seem to be all over the place on this

>one.

>I thought you mentioned that you eat before labs,

>correct me if I'm wrong. If so, I think the only way

>to get a true reading is to have labs on an empty

>stomach. Perhaps someone in the know could clarify.

>Curious,

>Barbara Ann

>AIH Transplant Recipient

>

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I have problems with fasting also, get violently hungry and irritable.

Maybe it is due to my diabetes.

J

>From: " Lori Cummins " <tlknj@...>

>Reply- onelist

>< onelist>

>Subject: Re: [ ] cholesterol

>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:46:06 -0500

>MIME-Version: 1.0

>From errors-165537-6259-shireen42 Thu Sep 09 05:46:16 1999

>Received: from [209.207.164.225] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id

>MHotMailB9A0F70B0190D82197C0D1CFA4E130150; Thu Sep 09 05:46:16 1999

>Received: (qmail 12802 invoked by alias); 9 Sep 1999 13:00:43 -0000

>Received: (qmail 12771 invoked from network); 9 Sep 1999 13:00:42 -0000

>Received: from unknown (HELO m1.rconnect.com) (209.163.30.3) by

>pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 1999 13:00:42 -0000

>Received: from tknlj (pmfair1-153.rconnect.com [209.163.11.153]) by

>m1.rconnect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA01784 for

>< onelist>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:46:30 -0500 (CDT)

>Message-ID: <000e01befac1$4a588560$990ba3d1@tknlj>

>X-Priority: 3

>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1

>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3

>Mailing-List: list onelist; contact

> -owneronelist

>Delivered-mailing list onelist

>Precedence: bulk

>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist>

>

>From: " Lori Cummins " <tlknj@...>

>

>Yes Barbara, My transplant center told me to get a correct reading on labs,

>especially cholesterol, triglycerides, and glucose a person should be

>fasting, and fasting at my center is evening meal before 7:00 p.m. and

>nothing to eat after that, if so a light snack, and nothing to drink after

>midnight. They told me that way if you have your blood drawn between 7:00

>a.m. and 9:00 a.m. the next morning you are at least 12 hours without food.

>This was very hard fer me before transplant. When the liver disease was the

>worst, I would get very sick by the time I had my labs drawn, but I did it

>to get accurate labs. I am currently getting my labs done every 3 weeks

>because I am on the taper to be weaned off the prednisone. I am almost

>there. I have 20 days to go!! Hope this helps. I know each center is

>different, but I still think it is the only way to get accurate labs, is to

>be fasting.

>Lori C. AIH Liver Tx 3~11~97. Remember " No one should go through this

>alone. "

> [ ] cholesterol

>

>

> >From: barbara ann <barbara99ann@...>

> >

> >Hi Geri,

> >I don't have a history of high cholesterol. I mention

> >this, in case it has a bearing.

> >I looked at my labs before I got really sick. My

> >cholesterol and triglycerides were in the low normal

> >range.

> >A month before my transplant, my cholesterol dropped

> >to 50, there was a notation stating it was too low.

> >The normal range was up to 200. Since my transplant

> >12/94, it has been at 208 a couple of times, but

> >mostly it hovers around 160, triglycerides 65. While

> >I was taking pred. it averaged around 180. I don't

> >know what to think as far as any relation to liver

> >disease. We seem to be all over the place on this

> >one.

> >I thought you mentioned that you eat before labs,

> >correct me if I'm wrong. If so, I think the only way

> >to get a true reading is to have labs on an empty

> >stomach. Perhaps someone in the know could clarify.

> >Curious,

> >Barbara Ann

> >AIH Transplant Recipient

> >

> >

> >__________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I have to resort to herbal therapy due to high cholesterol and bad reactions

to cholesterol lowering medications.

J

>From: FOXDIANA@...

>Reply- onelist

> onelist

>Subject: Re: [ ] Herbal therapy

>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:12:11 EDT

>MIME-Version: 1.0

>From errors-165537-6373-shireen42 Sat Sep 11 05:11:46 1999

>Received: from [209.207.164.225] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id

>MHotMailB9A392010027D820F3B5D1CFA4E138770; Sat Sep 11 05:11:46 1999

>Received: (qmail 20331 invoked by alias); 11 Sep 1999 12:28:10 -0000

>Received: (qmail 20318 invoked from network); 11 Sep 1999 12:28:10 -0000

>Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by

>pop1.onelist.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 1999 12:28:10 -0000

>Received: from FOXDIANA@... by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id

>hUGKaf7Ad_ (3975) for < onelist>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999

>08:12:11 -0400 (EDT)

>Message-ID: <caa70769.250ba11b@...>

>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 243

>Mailing-List: list onelist; contact

> -owneronelist

>Delivered-mailing list onelist

>Precedence: bulk

>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto: -unsubscribeONElist>

>

>From: FOXDIANA@...

>

>In a message dated 09/11/1999 12:33:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>shireen42@... writes:

>

><< From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...>

>

> , what do you know about lecithin and how much to take per day.

>

> J >>

>

>Hi Everyone,

>At the risk of starting some conflicts I have to say this. The discussion

>of

>herbs as a alternative medicine here has caused me some concern. None of

>us

>are doctors, nurtrionist, etc. I think the first and foremost thing that

>should be done is to search for your self what herb you think will work.

>THEN CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR IF IT IS ADVISABLE FOR YOU TO TAKE THEM. What

>works for one person might not be good for the next. If I have offended

>anyone please, please, please forgive me. But this has been bothering me

>for some time. There are several of us who takes herbs, they work for us.

>We

>studied them, I, for one checked with my doctor, I take them over the day,

>I

>believe in them. We all are looking for cures and answers, I know I sure

>am.

> I have learned a lot from this list and expect to learn more. Together

>we

>have a wealth of knowledge and experience. But the button line is " It all

>comes back to each of us individually to take control of our lives. " and

>again, if I have offended any one it was not my intention.

>

>I am always surfing for new information, that is time consuming. My

>husband

>is a paraplegic confined to bed. I have total care of him, I am his legs,

>some days I am up more then down, LOL. I keep adding to me web site this

>information.

>

>With this all said, I say to all,

>

>Have a good day, and remember...Laughter is the music of a happy heart,

>love

>is it's sustenance. Sooooo...laugh a lot, it is healing.

>

>Joan, AIH, PBC, HBP

>Florida

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Barbara Ann,

Now I wonder if there's any consistent significance in elevated cholesterol

in liver patients. Maybe it depends on the type of AIH involved? I took

another look at my labs from the last couple of years and see that my

cholesterol could be high one time and 3 weeks later, normal, then 4 weeks

after that, high again. It was no higher when I was most sick than they

are now while I'm in remission, but my cholesterol is almost always

elevated, and it wasn't ever elevated in the years before I was diagnosed.

For whatever reason, I'm rarely told to fast before labs. My LV

Hepatologist doesn't necessarily order labs each time I see him, so I don't

fast. He doesn't note that the tests should be fasting. Even Scripps

would frequently order labs on the spot, without requiring fasting. Could

be they are checking specific items that don't require fasting for a

reading and they aren't worried about things like cholesterol and glucose.

My new doctor, however, specifically told me that he wants to do fasting

labs. Unlike many of the doctors in LV, he has blood drawn by RNs in his

own office. Many LV physicians don't have actual RNs on staff (though I

realize that an RN isn't necessary to draw blood.) My husband's

cardiologist always orders only fasting labs for him.

For now I'm comfortable with my cholesterol like it is. It hasn't worried

anyone and it doesn't ever get phenomenally high, so why buy trouble?

Take care,

Geri

[Guest guest]

Cholesterol can be up for quite a while during cleansing. I have used a multipal amino acid blend and added extra Lysinal and arginine. It is not only good for the health of the liver but also has put a pulse back in my ankle where previously I had none.

cholesterol

I want to thank everyone for their help with my previous inquires. I now have another.

I had that blood work done that I had put off for a week because of die off. Can any one think of why my cholesterol would be up? Could it be attributed to the cleanses? Should I now do a liver cleanse or kidney cleanse next? I haven't changed my diet... maybe just eating a little less. I have been doing both the bowel and parasite cleanses.

Thanks,

KimSubscription email: bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

[Guest guest]

Okay so am I in danger if I do a kidney + arterial cleanse (resulting in a lymphatic cleanse)? Should I be taking something to help flush out the cholesterol? Will amino acid do it alone?

Thanks,

Kim

Cholesterol can be up for quite a while during cleansing. I have used a multipal amino acid blend and added extra Lysinal and arginine. It is not only good for the health of the liver but also has put a pulse back in my ankle where previously I had none.

cholesterol

I want to thank everyone for their help with my previous inquires. I now have another.

I had that blood work done that I had put off for a week because of die off. Can any one think of why my cholesterol would be up? Could it be attributed to the cleanses? Should I now do a liver cleanse or kidney cleanse next? I haven't changed my diet... maybe just eating a little less. I have been doing both the bowel and parasite cleanses.

Thanks,

Kim

[Guest guest]

what is the deal with all the different strains of kombucha. my intuition

tells me, along with everything ithat i've read, that it is a great thing. so

many people have reported success-- and yet i tested weak for it with

kinesiology. have you ever heard of people not doing well with kombucha if

they have an extreme yeast problem or an extreme parasite problem-- perhaps

the die off would be too intense?