anxiety

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In a message dated 2/24/03 2:40:48 PM Central Standard Time, lcyr@...

writes:

> . Does anyone know anything that removes panic attacks without the drugs?

You know, the best cure I found for anxiety attacks was deep breathing!

After a really nasty car accident I would get sever attacks while driving,

or thinking of driving, and just doing deep belly breaths helped me get a

grip on reality and think rationally about the whole situation! (especially

while I was driving!) Also anxiety is spurred on by shot adrenal glands and

high stress. reading " tired of being Tired " by Lynn Hanley, helped me

understand the anxiety/depression/stress cycle and gives lots of natural

remedies for each problem.

Hanida

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the only thing that helps with panic attacks is knowing that the thoughts

cannot hurt you. looking at your mind while it's having an attack and knowing

that all the thoughts are just your thought system that is out of control but

that the thoughts themselves are not real and do not mean anything. Once you

know this, you can dismiss the thoughts or not believe them and wait for the

low mood to pass. If you want to read a book on this, read " From here to

Serenity " by Jane . The book is out of print so you will have to find a

used one online

> I've been sick with candida for about 8 years now but slowly improving. The

one

> symptom that I can't seem to shake is anxiety and panic attacks. Does anyone

> know anything that removes panic attacks without the drugs? I've got a busy

life

> to lead and I don't have time to have to deal with panic attacks. Please

help!!

>

>

>

>

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Well..

surprisingly... today I had a great day on lex...

I did take .25 mgs of clonazepam this evening before going to see

some friends so not sure if thats what made the difference... just

feeling very confident all day today..

Im sure its just a good day though and there is still a rough road

ahead...Ill keep posting..

Rayne: happy for you that youve had no anxiety..

Ive tried 3 ssris now and I have crippling anxiety with all of them

for the first little while.

What was different with lex is that it didnt creep in (the anxiety)

until so late.. usually its within a few days...

but Im gonna ride it out.. and let you all know what happens..

yipee.. great day:)

hoope you are all doing ok as well

nite

Mark

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I've had the same problem. Are there any vitamins or supplements that are

supposed to be especially helpful with normalizing the adrenal and endocrine

glands? Is this something worth mentioning to my alt medicine doctor? thanks.

jd

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Thank you so much for the input. I will definitely remember this the next time I

am having a hard time with my anxieties.

Re: Anxiety

the only thing that helps with panic attacks is knowing that the thoughts

cannot hurt you. looking at your mind while it's having an attack and knowing

that all the thoughts are just your thought system that is out of control but

that the thoughts themselves are not real and do not mean anything. Once you

know this, you can dismiss the thoughts or not believe them and wait for the

low mood to pass. If you want to read a book on this, read " From here to

Serenity " by Jane . The book is out of print so you will have to find a

used one online

> I've been sick with candida for about 8 years now but slowly improving. The

one

> symptom that I can't seem to shake is anxiety and panic attacks. Does anyone

> know anything that removes panic attacks without the drugs? I've got a busy

life

> to lead and I don't have time to have to deal with panic attacks. Please

help!!

>

>

>

>

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Thanks so much for the information about panic attacks being related to shot

adrenal glands. I have had alot of trouble getting my adrenal glands back to

normal since I have had candida. I am going to see what I can find out how I can

normalize my adrenal glands and I am sure that that will make quite a

difference. The deep breathing is very helpful also. It has calmed me down when

I am having a hard time. Thank you so much for your help!

Re: Anxiety

In a message dated 2/24/03 2:40:48 PM Central Standard Time, lcyr@...

writes:

> . Does anyone know anything that removes panic attacks without the drugs?

You know, the best cure I found for anxiety attacks was deep breathing!

After a really nasty car accident I would get sever attacks while driving,

or thinking of driving, and just doing deep belly breaths helped me get a

grip on reality and think rationally about the whole situation! (especially

while I was driving!) Also anxiety is spurred on by shot adrenal glands and

high stress. reading " tired of being Tired " by Lynn Hanley, helped me

understand the anxiety/depression/stress cycle and gives lots of natural

remedies for each problem.

Hanida

[Guest guest]

> I've been sick with candida for about 8 years now but slowly

improving. The one symptom that I can't seem to shake is anxiety and

panic attacks. Does anyone know anything that removes panic attacks

without the drugs? I've got a busy life to lead and I don't have time

to have to deal with panic attacks. Please help!!

>

>

>

>

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Have you tried Valerian?

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Hi Tammy,

I am glad the Lex has helped you with the severity of your anxiety and the

panic attacks. I often get night anxiety thinking about the next day....I need

ambien to get to sleep because I just lay there and worry etc.....I am

thinking it is that kind of anxiety for you too. I doubt it has anything to do

with

when you take the Lex.

Hope you find some answers.

Hi gang

I'm just wondering how many of you here are taking lex

for anxiety? I've been taking it since january after

a month or two of horrible panic attacks, and so far

I've been panic-attack free since december. However,

I still get this anxiety, and it is usually at night.

I don't get full-blown attacks, nevertheless the fear

of one is pretty uncomfortable. I take the lex

mid-day, usually around 3ish. I'm wondering if my

anxiety at night has to do with the time of day that

I'm taking the lex? Or, if anyone has had this night

anxiety...how do they deal with it? I used to take

ativan but I quit because I was afraid to become

addicted. I'm not sure what to do.

Tammy

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Hello Tammy:

Have you tried BUSPAR? I've tried it for anxiety and it isn't

addictive...perhaps your psychiatrist has some ideas about that...

Regards,

Glenn

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Hello. I am on Buspar in addition to Lex. I am on 30 mg of Buspar

a day and it does't help with my high anxiety situations. That

doesn't mean it wouldn't work for you Tammy, but I just thought you

should know. My doc is against prescribing Xanex or Klonopin

because of their addictive propoerties, so he has me on buspar,

which hasn't helped a bit.

> Hello Tammy:

>

> Have you tried BUSPAR? I've tried it for anxiety and it isn't

addictive...perhaps your psychiatrist has some ideas about that...

>

> Regards,

>

> Glenn

>

>

>

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Try Rhodiola for the anxiety - 150mg three times a day. It works for me.

[Guest guest]

This is a life-long problem of mine which primarily causes me extreme

insomnia so I've focused on the insomnia and not the anxiety that

much.

Simplify your life so you are not tackling more than you can easily,

and have time for 'relaxing play'. However anxiety is something I

should do more about because perhaps if I worried less while awake, I

would sleep better at night, just beginning to address that angle.

> Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

resorting to prescription meds?

>

> This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

>

> thanks - p

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

resorting to prescription meds?

>

> This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

>

> thanks - p

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Meditation, yoga, bach flower remedies. I believe there is a bach

specifically for anxiety.

> Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

resorting to prescription meds?

>

> This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

>

> thanks - p

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aspen is the main bach flower for anxiety that can come out of the

blue with an unknown cause. Mimulus is also for fear/anxiety for

known things, and White Chestnut is anxiety accompanied by worrying

thoughts going round and round.

Anne

> > Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

> resorting to prescription meds?

> >

> > This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

> >

> > thanks - p

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> Meditation, yoga, bach flower remedies. I believe there is a bach

> specifically for anxiety.

The deep breathing of the yoga and meditation - it can slow you down

and capture more oxygen for you so you can recenter. Anxiety is

tough because it can be fear based (psychological) or chemically

based (physical) - my personal belief is that it is both...I've been

there before I began treating my health issues as well...the good

news is the medications aren't necessary.

s Moritz books " The Key to Health & Rejuvination " and " Freedom

from Judgment " offer lifestyle changes which include emotional,

psycological as well as physical benefits - I can only say these have

worked extremely well for me ... no more anxiety or insomnia (Once

in a while I may have a pressing issue to address and I'd stay awake -

but I use that time, instead of getting stressed about being awake,

to write down my feelings so they can be released)

In fact, I have begun the practice of writing down stuff I want

released in my next Liver Flush (since toxic emotions are thought to

be held in the liver) and reviewing my progress and intention - I see

improvements there as well.

Deborah

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> The deep breathing of the yoga and meditation - it can slow you down

> and capture more oxygen for you so you can recenter. Anxiety is tough

> because it can be fear based (psychological) or chemically based

> (physical) - my personal belief is that it is both...I've been there

> before I began treating my health issues as well...the good news is

> the medications aren't necessary.

I agree that medications aren't necessary, Dr. Hoffer has been using

an orthomolecular approach to treat anxiety for more than 40 years. B-

vitamins, and lots of extra niacin, plus trace minerals and

especially adequate magnesium. Because he also treats schizophrenics

with the same method, it seems he's treating a chemical imbalance.

Dr. Hoffer, named " father of orthomolecular medicine " by two-time

Nobel Laureate Linus ing, has several books on the subject.

A lithium orotate product you can get online, called serenity or

serene, may be of assistance if the vitamins do not quite cut it.

regards,

Duncan Crow

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Well, yes and no.

I definately do better when I eat right... some sort of protein with

each meal, eat 4-6 times a day, no sugar or refined flour, etc.

I think if you can figure out what foods fuel your body best, that

helps. I also excercise which helps me tremendously. And by

excecise, it can be a brisk walk, cardio class at the gym, or even

high-energy house cleaning. Anything to releave the tension.

Also, sounds silly, but deep breathing and positive self-talk.

That's what helps me.

And I still have moments where I just can't make it to a crowded

event. But my friends understand.

> Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

resorting to prescription meds?

>

> This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

>

> thanks - p

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Has anyone had any experience with controlling anxiety without

resorting to prescription meds?

>

> This is a new and unpleasant glitch I have run into.

>

> thanks - p

>

>

>

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Wow. I, too, am adopted. I was in an orphange in Germany for some time

before I was adopted. I gave a daughter up for adoption when I was 16 but I

insisted that she go directly from the hospital to her adoptive home as

quickly as possible for one of the very reasons you just stated. I didn't

want her in the limbo of a foster home or anywhere else for that matter. She

went home at 5 days old I think it was. This was a small hospital in a small

town so she received great care during that time.

It may also be a hereditary thing for you, the anxiety I mean. Being adopted

you may have no way of ever knowing that.

Barbara

Re: Anxiety

>

> I think I'm anxiety-ridden coz I was given up at birth

> and cared for by busy nurses in a hospital for a week

> before my adoptive parents took me home.

>

> I've been anxiety-ridden from my very earliest

> memories, onwards. It got worse after my dad died.

> He was my rock.

>

> --Diane

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Dear ,

For your anxiety you are better off not taking Ativan or any other

similar drugs, or even herbs. If 5HTP and Sam-E (whatever that is)

is not helping don't take them either. Stick to the tried and true

diet and supplements listed in my article. Omega-3, good fats and

oils and oil soluble vitamins are very important for anxiety, as well

as good animal meats.

Also take 3 deep breaths about 5-10 minutes apart to help your body

and mind relax. Do dry skin brushing, and take epsom salts baths.

As you continue on the diet and overcome candida your anxiety will

decrease more and more. Be patient and hang in there!

Bee

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,

I am on anxiety drugs (buspar) and never thought they could ever be treated with

diet. Since I have been eating a somewhat anti-candida diet I have cut my dose

in half. If I have a major die off the anxiety will get temporarily worse.

I know once I get this candida kicked I won't have to take meds at all. For

me.....I know its this damn candida/

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Dear ,

For your anxiety you are better off not taking Ativan or any other

similar drugs, or even herbs. If 5HTP and Sam-E (whatever that is)

is not helping don't take them either. Stick to the tried and true

diet and supplements listed in my article. Omega-3, good fats and

oils and oil soluble vitamins are very important for anxiety, as well

as good animal meats.

Also take 3 deep breaths about 5-10 minutes apart to help your body

and mind relax. Do dry skin brushing, and take epsom salts baths.

As you continue on the diet and overcome candida your anxiety will

decrease more and more. Be patient and hang in there!

Bee

[Guest guest]

,

I have the same thing going on. I really don't know

what to do about it - have Ativan also, but avoiding

taking it. If you learn anything further, please let

me know.

Elyse

--- " -<(:: jason :>- " <ombass@...> wrote:

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So every night after work I have been battling anxiety

for some time now

(many months). Not anxiety from something that is

bothering me - biochemical

anxiety. It is very uncomfortable, and I have a hard

time managing it.

Can this be a result of Candida? Anyone else have

this problem? What is the

best (effective) way to treat it? I have Ativan from

my Dr., but want to try

to avoid drugs if at all possible.

I am already taking 5HTP and Sam-E and they really

don't seem to be helping

a whole lot.

_jason_

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On 1/26/05 6:30 AM, " Kristan Shawgo " <cosmicgirl_206@...> wrote:

> in my personal opinion, i would not remove yourself

> from anti-anxiety medication cold turkey. you may want

> to ease yourself off as you work yourself into the

> diet for a smoother transition. that is just my

> opinion, i am not a doctor and certainly not a

> psychiatrist.

>

> * kristan

Ativan is usually not taken every day like some psychiatric drugs. It is

taken more " as needed " for the most part.

But yes, you are definitely correct - every day drugs should be weaned off

slowly. I learned that one the hard way years ago with Paxil!

_jason_

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