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I have an appointment with Dr Hulinsky On the 10th in

West Haven CT. His office ph. No is 203-374-4490.

Dick

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---I am here to get information and advise

ok

one of the biggest problems outlined by many an authority ,is

elimination probelems - the bodies ability to get rid of toxins ,

there are many principles to get and be aeare of -have a look at

this article from the edgar cayce foundation

IGeneral health information & Cayce philosophy

Keeping the balance right between work rest and play and juggling

all the problems in life one comes to the conclusion rapidly that

one has simply got to look after themselves.You just simply cannot

serve others at your best unless you are in good shape mentally,

physically and spiritually. This information here comes mainly from

the Edgar Cayce readings and the work of Doctor Harold Reilly who

worked with the Cayce readings for over 43 years. This is really

about balance how to keep it, guard it and live it. My own personal

experiences are a useful input also.

We will deal with some major principles about living, in fact about

life, straying from these principles for too long will undoubtedly

bring suffering in one form or another.

Cayce put it well when he said, " What we think and what we eat make

us what we are "

It really is up to us to take responsibility for ourselves, to find

out and dig for information, to question, to test, to not accept

blindly like lemmings what the tv says or the newspaper says .We

should be investigative especially with so much vested interest

information flying about.Lets start by having a look at the

principles which cayce advised (without any vested interest) that

will keep our selves well.

Consider the very air we breathe: You can bet within us there is

some very complicated processes going on, when we breathe we absorb

oxygen and this gas feeds billions of cells, can you Imagine feeding

contaminated food to your army of cells you just simply wouldn't do

it would you but because air, dust, smog tends to be invisible and

therefore it is harder to see its effects quickly. Often we don't

give air the importance it deserves.

Certainly within the last few thousand years we have put so many

damaging chemicals in our air, things like smog, sulphur doixide,

CFC, HCFC, Halons, acid rain which is literally killing whole

forests, fish, and certain animal species. Our own very protective

ozone layer is being destroyed allowing in harmful radiation. Your

Lungs are very important – protect them, my advice is treat every

chemical or vapour as potentially harmful, your lungs were never

designed to deal with the huge variety of chemicals we use in the

home, office or factory which are in common use today. We are also

seeing a big increase in asthma, hay fever and other respiratory

problems these problems are not without their reasons. According to

friends of the earth Ozone is beneficial to the upper atmosphere but

at ground level it can cause eye nose and throat irritation and at

high concentrations actually attacks lung tissue. According to Cayce

Breath is the basis of the living organisms activity

Okay what can we do about a few of these problems?

1.Treat every substance whether it be a solid, liquid or gas and its

associated vapour and virtually all substances have a vapour unless

it is actually air as hazardous this includes cleaning materials,

solvents, sprays, pesticides,Herbicides,glues, resins, petroleum

products, paints etc.Wear masks and have a good flow of air surround

you.

2. Be very mindful of all kinds of dust from all sources, the

graveyard is full of those who did not take precautions guarding

their lungs from dust and the operating tables are waiting for the

next batch to arrive.Masks will help.

3.Deep breathing helps us clear toxins out of the system as does

exercise.

Water -Cayce was quite adamant about the role of water and just

water on its own not tea, coffee carbonated drinks, or cordials and

recommended 6-8 glasses a day as it both aids elimination and

assimilation he recommended spring and distilled water. He

frequently advised against carbonated drinks.To day I would say

avoid the concoction of chemicals found in some of these drinks in

particular artificial sweeteners like aspartame etc. As a guide, a

well known therapist I know that gets results says that our pee

should be clear, if it is not we are not drinking enough water or we

have a medical complaint.

Another point worth mentioning is that when we get the message that

our bodies need water a lot of medical authorities are saying that

we are already dehydrated.

Exercise Highly recommended By cayce was exercise I think we all

know some of the value of exercise, Cayce had quite a bit to say on

the matter and highly recommended was outdoor exercise and cautioned

people about keeping the balance between physical exercise and

mental exercise, not too much of either.He also said that to acquire

the correct amount of pep in your life one had to exercise.

Also said that it is well every body take exercise to counteract the

daily routine so that the body may rest well. Exercise also helps

your body get rid of poisons or toxins, if these are not got rid of

they will cause major problems .Circulation is also helped by

exercise which is crucial to feed your cells to keep them at their

peak and to take away the wastes and toxins which all activities

produce. Cayce said that walking was the best exercise but not to do

this spasmodically, have a regular time and do it rain or shine.

Also said that swimming, bicycling, horseback riding, tennis,

badminton and any exercise done in the open was good, preferably

done in the mornings as this will bring vitality to the blood

supply, strength to the lungs, and a new life to the muscular forces

of the body. He frequently recommended specific exercises in the

mornings and the evenings and for various forms of eye and ear

trouble, haemorrhoids and other complaints- see Rileys book for the

full details. Exercise is invaluable for keeping our mental and

psychological balance in fact it was exercise which made the

difference between death or survival in some of the prison camps in

the second world war.

Diet and nutrition

Cayce said that a whole book could be written to cover this.

Cellular malnutrition is probably the base cause of hundreds of

human ills and frequently Cayce advised people to include many

changes in their diet.We have an unprecedented amount of additives

in our food and never before has there been so much playing about

with our food. In the U.K. despite government assurances our food

continues to be adulterated and contaminated with all manor of

substances and chemicals .The policies in place now have allowed

untold damage to our people and children, poisoning and diet related

hyperactivity are now common place. It is for these reasons that the

organic industry is growing so rapidly and slowly people are waking

up to the facts that what you eat is of vital importance to you but

much more needs to be done to spread the word.There is a plethora of

misinformation out there put out by some governments and the food

industry solely designed to protect profits or other vested

interests. Sifting through it all is a real problem .On the subject

of GM crops I would like to say that each one of these is an

individual experiment in its own right .The general principles of

G.M. crops are that certain materials which have certain wanted

properties are extracted from animals, plants and then blended into

a plant to give it some wanted property like better taste, better

shelf life, a plant which would be able to withstand a harder

climate etc. These are all very desirable properties potentially but

each one has to be tested individually and who is going to explore

the long-term effects of ingesting these substances. Where are they

going to be grown? What are their individual effects on the

ecosystem? All these effects are unknown. All of these things should

be properly individually explored for at least five years before

coming anywhere near humans and I do not advocate testing on animals

in any way.

Friends of the earth researchers have repeatedly called for proper

tests to be carried out on the effects of residues from spraying

crops with all manor of substances , did you know that these

substances have not been fully tested on humans.Their long term

effects are at this moment unknown.

Some do and don'ts in the cayce food regime

What we think and what we eat combined together make what we are in

a physicall and mentally way

Never eat when under strain or very tired or very excited or when

angry -this clearly is pointing to the role of the emotions

Never eat any food which your body does not agree with

An incorrect mental attitude produces more poisons and toxins than

does eating bad food cayce said

One of the hall marks of the cayce philosophy is to keep the system

alkaline by maintaining eating a ratio of about 80% alkaline

reacting foods to about 20% acid reacting foods the reasons for this

were that cold germs and many other germs cannot even live in an

alkaline environment. That is real protection.Alkaline /acid

reacting foods! what this means is this, all foods produce certain

reactions in the body for instance fats with sugars will produce for

an acid reaction. Where as most vegetables produce an alkaline

reaction, things like lettuce carrots and celery produce an alkaline

reaction. Indeed he said that if we were to keep alkalinity in the

system it would maintain such a condition so as to immunise a person

against certain contagious diseases.

He also mentioned that it was not good to combine certain foodstuffs

with others such as alkaline reacting foods with starches except for

the one example of wheat. Things like citrus fruits with certain

cereals are not recommended. In fact he said that to most people

that it was the combination of different categories of foodstuffs

i.e. proteins, fats, starches and vegetables which gives most

disturbances to our bodies.

Also emphasised was to avoid certain combinations of food stuffs at

the same meal, things like starches and proteins at the same time,

starches with vegetables are fine as are proteins with vegetables.

This is the basis of the modern term of food combining, the reasons

for not combining starches with proteins is because to digest

proteins requires one sort of digestive chemicals and to digest

starches requires a completely different sort so as you can see when

you eat both food stuffs together digestion can be more problematic.

Acid and alkaline forming foods

Alkaline forming fruits

Apples,Apricots,Avocadoes,Bananas,Berries all except Blueberries and

cranberries,Cherries,citrus fruits like Grapefruit,Lemons,

limes,Oranges and tangerines,Dates, figs,Grapes

Melons,Papaya,Passion fruit,Peaches , Pears, Pinapples,

Pomegranates, Tomatoes

Alkaline forming grains

Amaranth, millet, Quinoa. All other grains are acid forming.

Alkaline forming vegetables

Alfalfa and other sprouts,Artichokes,Asparagus,Bamboo

shoots,Beans,Beets,Bell Peppers,Broccoli,Brussel

sprouts,Cabbage ,Carrots ,Cauliflower,Celery, Chard, Chicory,Collard

greens,Corn, Sweet cucumber,Dandilion,

Eggplant,Garlic,Kale,Kohlrabi,Leeks, Lettuce,Mushrooms, Mustard

greens,Okra, Onions, Parsnips,Peas, Potatoes,Pumpikin , Radishes ,

Rhubarb,Sea vegetablesSpinach,Sqashes,Watercress,Yams and Sweet

potatoes.

Alkaline forming nuts

Almonds,Chestnuts and coconut all others are acid forming

Alkaline forming miscellaneous

Agar-agar, Applecider vinegar,Coffee,Egg yolks, Fruit juices,Gelatin

taken with fruit or vegetables,Glcothymoline, herbal teas,Herbs

fresh and dried,and most spices,Honey –raw unpasturised and mineral

water.

Alkaline forming dairy

Buttermilk fresh,Milk - raw,Whey,Yoghurt.

Acid forming fruits

Blue berries, Cranberries, Plums and Prunes and Sulfured dried

fruits.

Acid forming Vegetables

Beans -dried,Lentils and chickpeas.

Acid forming Dairy

Butter,Cream, Cheese,Cottage cheese, Milk pasteurized, Homogenized,

boiled canned dried.

Acid forming Misc.

Alcoholic drinks, drugs- most presciption,Egg whites,Gelatin, Soft

drinks,Tea black,Tobacco. Some vegetable oils,Vinegar.All meats,All

fish.

He cautioned against combining starches with sweets as this can

cause an alcoholic reaction.

Cayce advised people to use vitamin pills and the like for a

duration and then to leave off and then to resume stressing that the

body must not get dependant on them and thus fail to make the

necessary substances required for the digestion of proper food.

Vitamins do not, will not supply the energies as well as a meal a

day which consisted of raw salad.

Cayce also gave the principle that fresh food energies decrease in a

matter of hours after being picked in fact he said that food picked

should be as fresh as possible.

He also said that it would even be better to have foodstuffs from

the local area to acclimatise the person to that environment.

Also mentioned was that freezing destroys much of the goodness in

vegetables.

He cautioned that no one can hate his neighbour and not have stomach

or liver trouble and jealousy and the anger of it will be damaging

to the heart.

People should eat slowly giving time to the process.

The specifics of cayce nutrition

Wheat, [rolled crushed or cracked ] featured highly in the cayce

regime stressing that it would be good for the body and the mental

forces acting on the body.

Beware of all fried foods, fats of any kind and greases.

He cautioned against using any white bread at all.

He cautioned against too much red meat.

He was against too much sugars and starches saying sweets should be

obtained from natural sources like fruits, grapes, honey,

Highly recommended was fresh vegetables such as Cabbage, celery,

lettuce, carrots, watercress, onions saying that one meal every day

should compose of fresh if not raw vegetables.

Potato skins and plenty of the legumes, peas beans and the like

should be taken

The ratio that was given on the consumption of vegetables was three

above the ground to one beneath.

More of the vitamins are obtained from tomatoes than any other

growing vegetable.

Vegetables will build gray matter faster than will any meat or

sweets.

There is no supplement to green foods that can be eaten they appear

to be unique in the properties they have within them.

Almonds have some fantastic property which according to cayce taking

2-3 of them every day will ward off any inclination towards cancer

and he said that almonds carry more phosphorus and iron in such a

combination which is the most easily assimilated than any other nut.

Water was to be drunk and about 6-8 glasses a day was recommended,

the water was to be spring or distilled and not of the tap variety.

Coffee and tea should never be taken with cream or milk because it

forms a curd, which hinders your digestion.

Fruit juice and milk should not be taken together.

Cayce often advised people to leave milk alone.

Apples should not be eaten raw, cooked or boiled is fine unless it

is a part of the detox plan outlined later.

Salsify is a vegetable recommended by cayce which also has

properties which are advantageous like gold, phophorous, iron and

silicon.

Cooking methods

Cayce said that you should not use aluminum cookware .

A Recommended method of cooking was to use the steam pressure

cookers as this preserves the value of foods.

The cooking of condiments destroys much of the value of foods.

Assimilation and elimination

These are the two key stones of what makes us tick in fact cayce

said if we could control these aspects of the human form we could

extend life to whatever we chose, that's how important these two

principles are. Assimilation is defined as the measure of the

ability of any body to utilize foods that we eat, some people think

that having massive doses of nutrition will give them all that they

need, they could not be more wrong it is all right shoving nutrition

in but it is quite another thing if the body can absorb it and use

it in that form.Typical assimilation rates might vary from 20% to

80% and nutrition supplied in some forms will not be absorbed at all.

What happens to the food after you swallow it depends to a large

degree on the other three principles of your body namely

circulation, relaxation and elimination.Circulation is crucial if

assimilation is to maintained at high levels circulation is helped

greatly by some important factors ;exercise, massage hydrotherapy

treatments and osteopathic adjustments because the blood stream

carries the rebuilding forces to the body it is these channels which

need to be clear and stimulated so that the blood will flow to feed

the cells and tissues.

Elimination

Every thing which your body does, every activity produces waste and

we get rid of that waste through the skin, the lungs,the kidneys and

the intestines . Major problems start to occur when any of these

channels are stopped from doing their job, we start to accumulate

waste, bacteria start growing at alarming rates which leads to all

sorts of problems as we become toxic.The fact that poor eliminations

are the most cited cause of disease gives you an idea of the

importance of getting rid of toxins.In extreme cases of toxemia

cayce recommended a controlled fast or a three day apple diet to

clear the system and restore balance.A great deal of elimination

takes place through the lungs by means of deep breathing and cayce

placed great emphasis on this aspect recommending some of the

breathing techniques as used in yoga.Of course exercise pays a very

important role here driving out wastes into the lungs and speeding

up circulation, helping digestion, helping elimination of wastes

through the skin. Cayce used certain foods to help elimination such

as leafy vegetables and in the mornings or evenings stewed figs,

raisons,apricots or pears occasionally.Cayce said that it would be

good for everyone to have a colinic occasionally.

Circulation

Just impeding the flow to the brain for a few minutes will cause

permanent brain damage such is the importance of good

circulation.The blood feeds our cells our tissues, the better the

circulation the better we feel .For all the bodies rebuilding forces

come through quicker with good circulation.Not only does the blood

carry the so important chemicals which feed our cells but the

lymphatic system carries away our wastes. Exercise helps circulation

in a big way as does massage, hydrotherapy, osteopathy and other

manipulative therapies.

The cayce detox

Recommended in hundreds of readings was the cayce detox, the

elimination process was found to be poor and the subsequent build up

of toxins and poisons was found in hundreds of people. The cayce

detox was to help rid the body of these wastes. As the lay person

can easily appreciate the situation in your very own kitchen if you

did not clean up after every meal, bacteria would have a great time

multiplying and contaminating places every where. So many thousands

of people have been helped greatly by helping the body get rid of

waste the importance of this action cannot be overestmated.

Cayce prescribed the three day apple diet where for three days you

would eat nothing but apples of the sheep nosed type preferably

organic types like athons, Delicious, Oregon reds, Arkansas

black and water. At the end of the third day a two spoons full of

olive oil was taken. The success that people described having done

this regime was uplifting, revitalizing, feeling great, an euphoric

feeling, greater mental clarity and physically more energy. It is

one of the most effective ways of preventing disease.In fact cayce

said that it would cleanse all toxic forces from any body. According

to Harold reillys book he himself tried to detox three times a year.

Massage

Frequently prescribed by cayce in hundreds of readings, massage has

been used for thousands of years with extremely good effects, some

of the benefits are increased circulation,increased elimination,it

can provide relaxation or stimulation depending on how it is given

it can help with emotionally affected people and children have

developed better from its use it will help with depression and a

hundred more complaints.It affects every part of the body –nerves

organs,glands,circulation and muscular tone.Massage will help all

people and cayce advised having one from thirtyminutes to a hour and

a half using cold pressed peanut and olive oil at least once a

week.It can free up joints, relieve pain and soreness. Cayce often

said that the person giving the massage have some affinity with the

patient.It can also build bridges of brotherly or sisterly love

between people.Children with major behavioral problems have shown

marked improvements in their behaviour.Cayce said those who would

take a peanut oil rub each week need never fear arthritis.

Touch

This plays a very important part in life as you can greatly

influence how someone feels simply by touching them. A noticeable

difference between foreign lands and certainly England is that the

people tend to touch each other more conveying affection and

support.This concept touches on the psychological makeup of nations

and it may be that there is more unconditional love amongst the

peoples of foreign lands.As an experiment try touching a little more

your friends and family for a few days and just notice the change in

them and you.To know the value of this therapy it is best to

experience it, the value of human brotherly and sisterly love is

very great indeed the lack of it can have a terrible effect . I have

experienced personally the effects of lack of brotherly and sisterly

love shown in the way of touch for an extended period of time and

the only words which aptly describes the effect is writhing

torture.The only remedy which I have found was to get amongst

friends and hug more often.Some of you may scoff at this but I

assure you the months spent in this state were an agony which

influenced my mind and body greatly.

Enjoyment

Cayce said that the soul feeds off the environment it is within.

What this means is that we gain sustenance from being in places we

like,being around people we like to be with like friends, and doing

work that we like, that is interesting to us. I have personally

experienced the effects of having none of these for a time. The

effects on me were terrible things like depression, M.E.debilitating

illness, Mental problems in the form of memory and concentration and

an intolerance and irritability to any thing which was not helping

me like the wrong kind of music, certain people, certain thinking

methods within people and all sorts of other things.

My strongest advice to everyone is to be amongst people you

like,spend as much time in places that you love,and do work which

you enjoy.In fact to get these things in place takes some doing as

financial and moral ties will bear upon us in one form or another

each of them trying to force us into making compromises with our

very being.

The value of Sunlight

Light is extremely important for the needs of man. Cayce recommended

2 hrs a day but not at the height of the day.Sunlight metabolizes

vitamin D which is needed for the absorption of Calcium, with

osteoporosis now affecting one in three women over 50 and one in

twelve men, anything we can do to absorb calcium must be looked at.

According to one reputable light therapist who listed ten main

benefits from sunlight which include

1 Production of vitamin D,

2.Lowers blood pressure.

3.Increases heart pumping efficiency.

4.Improves ECG readings.

5.Reduces Cholesterol and hypertension

6.Assists weight loss.

7.Effective with Psoriasis.

8.Increases the level of sex hormones.

9.Helps alleviate Asthma and other lung disorders.

10.Helps improve mood.

As with most things one can have too much .Too much sunlight will

age the skin and give an increased risk of skin cancer, which is

frequently caused by too much UV radiation. An interesting point

with sunlight is the fact that you can get burnt through cloud cover

or in shallow water.

Never expose babies to direct sun between 11am-2pm in summer.

As a precaution if any mole changes color, shape, size or becomes

itchy, or bleeds seek medical advice straight the way, melanoma if

caught early is well treatable, caught late it can be much more

problematic.

With the now recognized problem of season affected disorder

cayce,s statement is well justified. Insufficient light will cause

all manor of problems things like depression, Fatigue and drowsiness

will be more seen in winter as the dark days come. Apparently a

thirty minute exposure to sunlight will produce enough vitamin D for

the entire day.People in winter are now using light boxes which

should be of at least 10,000 lux full spectrum type lights and

flicker free. Also used is UV light and both of these types of

light are to be used in the early morning to keep us in balance.

Treatment with these methods has been effective in about 85% of

cases. Our pineal gland responds to sunlight and a sunny day

produces about 100,000 lux, the pineal gland produces melatonin,

which lowers heart rate and prepares the body for sleep. However you

have to get sufficient daylight to produce Melatonin.PMS has now

been linked to low melatonin .In fact one has to apparently protect

our melatonin as things like Glutamate (often used in food

additives) caffiene,alcohol,tobacco,chocolate,non steroid anti

inflammatory, beta blockers,prozac,and valium deplete it.

Melatonin is a very important chemical and acts as a anti oxidant

and free radical scavenger and these things are linked to

aging .Curiously St. johns wort used for depression is a melatonin

stimulator.

Tests have also been done with florescent lighting at a school in

Florida, the tests clearly showed evidence for increased

Hyperactivity, Irritablity, Depression and Fatigue.Surprisingly the

lighting also affected blind people as well. The clear alternative

for florescent lights are the full spectrum type lights where they

very nearly replicate sunlight, again tests have shown improved

Health and performance, a decrease in headaches, Depression and

fatigue.

Sex

Cayce said words to the effect of this were as normal as it was for

the flowers to grow.

Sex is good for just about everyone the lack of which can also cause

some pretty damaging effects upon us. This can be felt at a soul and

a mental level. This is definatly part of any good health plan. Of

course as with everything too much can be as damaging as to little.

We all have to make our decisions in this department and as an ideal

when love is present at the same time the experience can be as deep

as an ocean as is compared to just sex alone as is a little puddle.

Be amongst people

By and large man is a social animal needing the company of people.

Serious studies have shown extremely damaging effects where

isolation has been implemented .A deterioration in mental faculties

like memory, logical thinking skills, creative thinking

skills,operating skills and many others have been found from being

in isolation. Other imbalances like diminished confidence,

possession, weakness was noticed. Depression and fatigue can all

have their causes in a lack of the energies of people. Put it simply

people need people. In the world today there are a group of people

mainly elderly or certain prisoners who cannot get out who suffer

from this greatly. People need social interaction to laugh, to

share, to give support, to listen, to talk. The lack of any of these

will have damaging effects upon us psychologically and which I have

to say by and large the people suffering from this may not be

consiously aware of it.As an ideal be amongst people you like and

who like you but give time to others as you would be amazed what a

few words or a listening ear can achieve.

Electric fields

There is now clear evidence now, which clearly shows that some

electric fields can have a detrimental effect upon our health ,

living near or beneath power lines is not to be recommended. Some

studies have also shown that being to close to TV screens and other

electrical apparatus can also affect our health. We are after all

energy beings and by definition therefore electric fields can

influence us more than we normally think.

Holidays

Everyone needs a holiday it is an essential ingredient in good

health it can boost our spirits, our moral shape our mental state,

bring relief, recharge our batteries, add zest to life, change our

perspective, relax us, wind us down, remove us from all sorts of

detrimental influences.It can introduce us to different cultures,

different influences, expand us. Of course we are all different and

what one person will find enjoyable another will not, my only point

here is to emphasize the importance of ensuring that you get

numerous holidays despite whatever culture you are in.

Work

To stay healthy everyone needs to work it is an extremely

therapeutic tool providing you are doing work which is suitable for

you and not too much and not too little.I have witnessed and

continue to witness some horrific mental and psychological disorders

on people with too little to do. Loss of self-esteem, loss of

confidence, loss of mental clarity and thinking skills all diminish.

Purposeful work gives a great reward; it boosts confidence, boosts

moral, boosts self-esteem and feeds the soul. What kind of work is

suitable? Well that very much depends upon each one of us and how we

are made, to some it could be working with your hands, to others it

could be teaching, counciling, researching, the list is endless in

the types of work which are available. What is very important is

that you get to know yourself, what you like, what you dislike what

activities give you something which do not, from this basis you can

point your aims towards achieving what you want to do. I speak to

many people and a common statement from them is I do not know what I

want to do. Well it took me about three days of sitting down with

myself and then conducting a little soul searching. I started by

asking myself all sorts of questions. What activities in the past

did I enjoy, which did I not and why, I had to go right back into

child hood. Which subjects did I find interesting at school which

did I not. A long list of things was drawn up and I started to get

to know myself. This led me in all sorts of directions it also dealt

with relationships a little. Everyone should get to know themselves,

the ancient Egyptians knew this and written in solid rock in Egypt

are written the immortal words " Know thyself " . We will spend many

years doing work and I expect we have all worked in many ways which

we did not like and I will issue a word of warning at this point,

doing the wrong kind of work for any significant amount of time can

have a very deep damaging effect upon us mentally psychologically

and spiritually. It is like trying to fit a round peg into a square

hole.

Another aspect to work is that there has never been any shortage of

work, of course paid work is quite another matter. I will clarify

that point a little further and ask you the following question to

prove the point .Is this world perfect?

No – well it is going to require work to make a difference.

The value of giving

Putting something or some service into society is one of the most

transforming tools with which we all benefit. The value of it is

much higher than we can possibly know and it should be included as

part of everyone's health program. The giver may ask how will

helping others help my health and me! That is a very good question,

which is very worthy of a serious amount of thought. This touches on

the concept which is called karma .For if one truly wants to live

with the great allies of Health, wealth, happiness, Love and all

those effects which one values one should really understand this

concept. It is the only thing, which explains the apparent

randomness of the effects, which come upon people. Effects are all

aspects of health, Wealth, Richness, [note these two are separate]

Happiness etc.

What is karma? Put simply it is the law of cause and effect. Or put

as another way as you sow so shall you reap, or what goes around

comes around. What do we mean by sowing ?Simply every action or deed

you do causes an effect and every thought causes an effect. So if

you have sown good deeds as in helping others, being of service,

giving love and Kindness for lengthy periods of time you can expect

to reap those seeds. Alternatively if we have sown other deeds and

thoughts of a hurtful nature we can expect problems of one nature or

another to beset us. Cayce frequently mentioned in treating disease

that we were working against karma and frequently told people that

they would get well faster by helping others. Ah you may say why is

it that babies are sometimes born with so many impediments, they

have not sown wrongful acts.

Yes they have not in this lifetime but what about their previous

lives as in reincarnation. You may not wish to go into this subject

at this time but there are millions of references to it, some in the

bible and a lot of eastern religions, some people can actually

remember their past lives. There is now even past life regression

therapy used in hypnosis to treat phobias, which are not connected

with this lifetime.

Now we can meet our karma in two ways the first as in an eye for an

eye, which means reaping in the exactly the same way as we have

done. Or we can come under the law of grace where we can have the

opportunity to transmute our karma by the giving of service to

others. You choose, I much prefer the latter being so much less

painful on my soul.

If we are unwell and by implication therefore suffering from past

seeds sown it follows therefore one of the fastest ways to get well

is to incorporate into your treatment plan service or giving to

somebody as often as you can and ask for opportunities to be of

service .I have proved this concept on a daily basis and feel that

this concept is so important in all types of healing and to achieve

other effects like friends enriching experiences, money which we

need.

Just a few examples of how we can be of service –giving Sharing our

being, our wealth, sending our thoughts, giving to charity, sharing

a joke, uplifting someone, giving listening time, giving healing,

giving labour, giving love, giving entertainment, giving food,

giving information and a million more ways.

The Cayce philosophy and other info

Personal responsibility

This principle is used throughout all the treatment protocols, it is

the principle that each and every one of us takes full

responsibility for all the actions we do and the words we say. It is

very much up to us to search, to look into things properly and with

care examine information and reports checking for their viability

and authenticity. Do not expect unless you are very honored to get

things to land on your plate or assign your health to others. You

are responsible for your own body for giving it proper food and

nutrients, exercising it and maintaining it.No one else.

Karma and the giving principle

Just a little on the subject of Karma for if one truly wants to live

with the great allies of Health, wealth, happiness, Love and all

those effects which one values one should really try to understand

this concept. It is the only thing, which explains the apparent

randomness of the effects, which come upon people. These effects are

all aspects of health,Wealth,Richness,[note these two are separate]

Happiness etc.

What is karma? Put simply it is the law of cause and effect. Or as

you sow so shall you reap, or what goes around comes around. What do

we mean by sowing ?Simply every action or deed that you do causes an

effect and every thought you have causes an effect. So if you have

sown good deeds as in helping others, being of service, giving love

and kindness for lengthy periods of time you can expect to reap

those seeds. Alternatively if we have sown other deeds and thoughts

of a hurtful nature we can expect problems of one nature or another

to beset us .Ah you may say well if that was the case why is it that

babies are sometimes born with so many impediments? they have not

sown wrongful acts.

Yes quite right they have not in this lifetime but what about their

previous lives as in reincarnation. You may not wish to go into this

subject at this time but there are millions of references to it,

some in the bible even Jesus made reference to it many times and it

features extensively in eastern religions. Some people can actually

remember their past lives and there are thousands of accounts of

this. There is now even past life regression therapy used in

hypnosis to treat phobias which are not connected with this life

time, like a fear of spiders, knives, being a workaholic,

claustraphobia, heights etc.

Now we can meet our karma in two ways, the first as in an eye for an

eye where we suffer the same fate as we have dished out. Or we can

come under the law of grace where we can have the opportunity to

transmute our karma by the giving of service to others. Two separate

concepts, one very painful potentially, the other has the potential

for developing yourself and the qualities which you will need like

courage, forgiveness, compassion, respect, humility etc. There is

not one person on this earth that I am aware of who is without

karma. You choose, I much prefer the latter being so much less

painful on my soul. I very much advocate asking to be shown where

you might work to transmute your karma. Just send a sincere thought

out, the universe hears all and pray for an answer. Sometimes your

answer might very well be shown in dreams as it has with me many

times.

If we are unwell and by implication therefore suffering from past

seeds sown, as cayce said all illness was sin being met, it follows

therefore one of the fastest ways to get well is to incorporate into

your treatment plan service or giving as often as you can and ask

for opportunities to be of service .Ask whom you may ask, ask your

god your father, mother god. I have tried and proved this concept on

a daily basis and know that this concept is extremely important in

all types of healing and to overcome other effects which we need.

Cayce repeatedly stated that illness, disease, homelessness, ruin,

unhappiness, depression, was caused by wrongful acts or thoughts

from the past and urged people that they would get well faster or

improve their condition by helping others.

He also came across a case where he told the man that healing him of

his complaint would be to no avail as all that would happen if he

cured this one would be another one would come his way.To another

cayce questioned the man saying why do you want to healed for so

that you may add further to your own selfishness, then better to

stay the way you were

Just look at the world to day and see and feel how much sin there is

being sown all around. If there was such a mechanism where people

knew without any doubt that they would meet their acts, words and

thoughts how many would think first .Some without doubt but we all

have to master our lower natures and this takes time in fact a long

time to gain control over our emotions our thoughts and master

influences both from within you and those sometimes much harder

outside of you and all this is life .What do you think Jesus meant

when he said to the person in the bible who had been suffering for

years with disease when he said after the man had been healed " Go

forth and sin no more less something greater may befall you " .Well I

hope that has given you something to think about , you may feel

moved at his stage to think about how to balance the books as it

were. Or to know how to transmute your karma, all I will say on this

is to ask your god to show you what has to be done, where may you be

of service.

Just a few examples of how we can be of service –giving, Sharing our

being, our wealth, sending out good thoughts, giving to charity,

sharing a joke, uplifting someone, giving listening time, giving

healing, giving labour, giving love, giving entertainment, giving

food, giving information and a million more other ways.

Drugs and other treatments

There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on

the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the

system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS

should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it

costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of

the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing

millions of pounds. Where does this money come from to test and

approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies.

So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug

company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been

working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further

or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves

to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only

treatments which show a profit will even get examined.Because they

are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So

many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no

profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not

get recommended by your local doctor or hospital despite the fact

that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some which have

saved needless operations,needless amputations,needless pain and

trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life.

So Mrs by and large you will probably only get recommended

treatments where there is profit in them for someone.

Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual

healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy,

Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices,

Electrical Frequency devices. All of these have shown their inherent

worth with thousands of testimonials.

As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed

that is until the day comes when most of the research and testing is

done by the government with no vested interests attached and a clear

agenda of being objective. There is clear evidence that some of

these drug companies will even go much further than just dismiss

this proposed treatment especially if it is going to affect their

profits.

See the sin bin

Mind is the builder

Frequently Cayce was pointing out that mind is the builder with

attitudes and emotions playing a major role keeping you healthy or

causing you illness. Worry, anxiety etc could bring on more toxins

than eating poisoned food he said. These were real forces which

could undermine the body's own defense mechanism. Attitudes also

starred in this line up with good ones bringing health and poor ones

bringing all sorts of calamities to the bearer. He frequently

counciled people that if there was not a change of attitude healing

simply would not come .Further and an extreme example comes from

case 3315 female age 40 where Cayce found The conditions here, as we

find, have been so aggravated by animosities, and by hates, that we

have a deterioration in the nerve forces along the spinal system; so

that this has caused dementia - and now possession, such that this

may appear near to hopeless in this experience.Through the

application of low electrical forces as shocks to the body, with

patience, care, persistence, there may be aid - if those responsible

are active in keeping with divine approbation.

The reaction to major trauma in people's lives could bring about all

sorts of problems anything from stomach upsets to cancer. It is

difficult and yet so important to control these emotions. Cayce

frequently said why worry when you might pray, which is still true

to day as it ever was. Creative visualization has reportedly helped

lots of people overcome illnesses including cancer which adds to the

point that the body follows what the mind creates. Embarrassment and

the subsequent blushing are a prime example of this with lots of

blood flushing the face causing a red appearance, just from a single

thought.

Of interest is another piece of Cayce advice for all who would help

or administer.

A patient was receiving treatment from other sources and was

satisfied with what was being done .Cayce indicated that as long as

the patient felt this way other treatments would not be advised for

they would be ineffective ….if the body's mind is not changed from

evidence .Let it have its way!

For it must learn for itself.! This can be difficult for the person

who helps or administers for you will see some very difficult and

painful lessons learnt by watching people learn the hard way.

Cayce said

all strength, all healing of every nature is the changing of the

vibrations from within – the attuning of the divine within the

living tissue of a body to creative energies . This is healing.

Whether this is accomplished by the use of drugs, the knife or what

not, it this the attuning of the atomic structure of the living

cellular force to its spiritual heritage

We are spiritual beings above all else and the greatest form of

healing is a form which makes us more aware that this is so.

" For as the mind is the builder –or as a man thinketh so is he –so

does that mind, that body, that soul, expand to meet the needs of

same "

Thoughts are real they direct forces, they can help you or hinder

you aid someone or do the opposite.

" there is within the grasp of man all that in nature that is the

counterpart of that in the mental and spiritual realms and an

antidote that this the counterpart for every ill in the individual

experience if there will but be applied nature, natural forces "

Another example where Cayce said There is a great deal of

disturbance in the physical forces of the body, that causes quite an

aggravation to the body. Yet as we find, if there would be a change

in attitude of the body toward life and its relationships to things

around it, we might find a great deal of difference.

Simply cayce is saying here that within nature itself lies the

answer to all healing

n candidiasis , mark mattoon <moonone2000@y...> wrote:

> Hello all. I am new to this group as of yesterday. I have had

> unbelievable stomach pain and visible bulge in the belly when it

> happens, unstoppable acid bubbling into the throat, eyes that

won't

> stop watering, ears that periodically become filled with fluid

causing

> me to lose my hearing and balance, fungal growth in my armpits

with

> visible secretion, life altering back pain, arthritis in the knees

and

> hips, semicircle spots in front of the eyes after exercise, skin

> rashes, and the usual depression and loss of energy one would

expect

> with all this. A few other ailments as well. I never thought these

were

> all related but now I do. I recently learned about candiasis and,

yes I

> was on antibiotics for something like two years as a teen. Also

have

> had antibiotics for other things, and prednisone many times for

poison

> ivy. I asked my doctor and of course he doesn't believe in this

> diagnosis. I am here to get information and advise, and have

started

> taking caprylic acid. I am worried about taking a prescription,

because

> who knows what problems these meds might lead to. I am becoming

> increasingly skeptical of the medical establishment's ability to

face

> facts, independently make a correct diagnosis or be honest.

>

> Has anyone else had the bulge in the belly thing? that is the most

> painful and worrisome part of all this, and would love to know if

I am

> on the right track with this.

>

> Thanks for listening.

>

> -Moon

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le M.Naugatuck, CT

Hi Neighbor!

::waving across the LI sound::

Elaine

Long Island NY

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Depends on what was the 11.22 is in reference too.

The range for every thing is different...-

-- In hypothyroidism , " angela " <kirbiemar@y...> wrote:

> Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a year, but

> just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my results but

> what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be 11.22.

It

> sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me if my

> feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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It refers to my TSH.

> > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a year,

but

> > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my results

but

> > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be

11.22.

> It

> > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me if

my

> > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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It is still hypo, are you taking any t4? It sounds like your meds

need to be upped.

Not horrible, not probably not much fun

My tsh was over 60 at one point, and i had not long term affects from

that.

-

-- In hypothyroidism , " angela " <kirbiemar@y...> wrote:

> It refers to my TSH.

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a

year,

> but

> > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my results

> but

> > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be

> 11.22.

> > It

> > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me if

> my

> > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

> > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a

> year,

> > but

> > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

results

> > but

> > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be

> > 11.22.

> > > It

> > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me

if

> > my

> > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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is there any reason you have to be off your meds for a ct scan?

to boast energy.. go for a walk.. eat small meals

Good luck-

-- In hypothyroidism , " angela " <kirbiemar@y...> wrote:

> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a

> > year,

> > > but

> > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> results

> > > but

> > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to

be

> > > 11.22.

> > > > It

> > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me

> if

> > > my

> > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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No I was taking off my meds about two months ago, my old doc

misdiagnosed me with bipolar and put me on a med that I had a severe

allergic reaction too. Then she took me off all meds and now I feel

dead tired, and have no energy. I eat pretty healthy. I started

seeing my new doc last week, he took the test and called me today

with the results but would not give me them all over the phone so

now I have to go see him Tuesday. Yeah...

> > > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over

a

> > > year,

> > > > but

> > > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> > results

> > > > but

> > > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out

to

> be

> > > > 11.22.

> > > > > It

> > > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell

me

> > if

> > > > my

> > > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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Sounds like you have had a tough couple months..

and i can imagine you feel tried. when you go back to the doct ask if

you can get a bit of cytomel to aleve the hypo symptoms until your t4

kicks back in.

-

-- In hypothyroidism , " angela " <kirbiemar@y...> wrote:

> No I was taking off my meds about two months ago, my old doc

> misdiagnosed me with bipolar and put me on a med that I had a

severe

> allergic reaction too. Then she took me off all meds and now I feel

> dead tired, and have no energy. I eat pretty healthy. I started

> seeing my new doc last week, he took the test and called me today

> with the results but would not give me them all over the phone so

> now I have to go see him Tuesday. Yeah...

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for

over

> a

> > > > year,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> > > results

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out

> to

> > be

> > > > > 11.22.

> > > > > > It

> > > > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one

tell

> me

> > > if

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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Thanks you sound knowledgeable on this subject, maybe you would know

about vitamin B's and how they help. I have been researching this.

How long have you had hypothyroidism?

> > > > > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for

> over

> > a

> > > > > year,

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me

my

> > > > results

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came

out

> > to

> > > be

> > > > > > 11.22.

> > > > > > > It

> > > > > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one

> tell

> > me

> > > > if

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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These things work for people who are healthy and their bodies are functioning

properly. They do not give me energy. I walk, I exercise and I do laps in the

pool, but they do not give me energy at all, they used to when I was healthy,

but not any more.

Bev

mollyflannel <mollyflannel@...> wrote:

is there any reason you have to be off your meds for a ct scan?

to boast energy.. go for a walk.. eat small meals

Good luck-

-- In hypothyroidism , " angela " <kirbiemar@y...> wrote:

> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a

> > year,

> > > but

> > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> results

> > > but

> > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to

be

> > > 11.22.

> > > > It

> > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me

> if

> > > my

> > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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I have tried all most all types of exercise, I try to keep a busy

life and always run out of energy way to quick. I have to quit my in

home daycare because I can not keep up with the kids anymore. I get

to grumpy and seem to yell more. I am a full time college student

also and have found in the past few months keeping the grades up has

been hard. My own four kids can tell the diffenece in me lately.

It's hard to keep up with a normal life.

> > > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over

a

> > > year,

> > > > but

> > > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> > results

> > > > but

> > > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out

to

> be

> > > > 11.22.

> > > > > It

> > > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell

me

> > if

> > > > my

> > > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Sounds like hypothyroidism, , !!!!!!

Bev

angela <kirbiemar@...> wrote:

I have tried all most all types of exercise, I try to keep a busy

life and always run out of energy way to quick. I have to quit my in

home daycare because I can not keep up with the kids anymore. I get

to grumpy and seem to yell more. I am a full time college student

also and have found in the past few months keeping the grades up has

been hard. My own four kids can tell the diffenece in me lately.

It's hard to keep up with a normal life.

> > > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over

a

> > > year,

> > > > but

> > > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> > results

> > > > but

> > > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out

to

> be

> > > > 11.22.

> > > > > It

> > > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell

me

> > if

> > > > my

> > > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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angela wrote:

> It refers to my TSH.

Then it means you almost certainly need more thyroid medication. You

should be able to get both test results and the normal range for your

laboratory. These technically belong to you, not the prescribing

physician. The interpretation is another matter.

Chuck

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angela wrote:

> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

Nothing at all will help until you get your hormones properly replaced.

A TSH of 11 can be just as symptomatic as one of 111. The fact that it

is elevated at all says you are feeling bad. How high it goes is more a

function of how long you have had insufficient thyroid production.

Chuck

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mollyflannel wrote:

> is there any reason you have to be off your meds for a ct scan?

>

Yes, if they are doing a radiotracer uptake study of thyroid function.

This is also called a thyroid scan and uses radioactive iodine to look

for an active tumor.

Chuck

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bev wrote:

> These things work for people who are healthy and their bodies are functioning

properly. They do not give me energy. I walk, I exercise and I do laps in the

pool, but they do not give me energy at all, they used to when I was healthy,

but not any more.

>

I quite agree. Exercise can paradoxically make you even less energetic

by depleting the limited stores of T3.

Chuck

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Mega doses of B12 anywhere from 2000 - 4000mgs at a time. B12 is water

soluble so you can't overdose, and what your body does not use; gets

excreted out of your system one way or another. B12 especially we hypo's

tend to be very deficient in, besides the other B vitamins. Its good for

energy and depression.

Val

Re: Hello

> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > Need some information, I have be dx hypothyroid for over a

> > year,

> > > but

> > > > > just had some test done last week. My doctor gave me my

> results

> > > but

> > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be

> > > 11.22.

> > > > It

> > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me

> if

> > > my

> > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks alot your information helps alot....

<veetee@...> wrote:Mega doses of B12 anywhere from

2000 - 4000mgs at a time. B12 is water

soluble so you can't overdose, and what your body does not use; gets

excreted out of your system one way or another. B12 especially we hypo's

tend to be very deficient in, besides the other B vitamins. Its good for

energy and depression.

Val

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> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

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> > > > > what tell me anything till i come in, My test came out to be

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> > > > > sounds bad to me, i have research alot, can any one tell me

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> > > > > feelings are right or am i worrying to much...thanks

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Your right I feel horrible, I have always been an active person and to tire out

after a couple of hours being awake really depresses me. I am trying to find

hobbies, but nothing seems to work I am hoping after Tuesday they will but me

back on something, THanks for the support

Chuck B <cblatchl@...> wrote:

angela wrote:

> My doc took me off my meds two months ago and now i am seeing

> another one and he is sending me in for a cat scan of my thyroids.

> Lots of fun.....What does everyone do to boosts their energy level.

Nothing at all will help until you get your hormones properly replaced.

A TSH of 11 can be just as symptomatic as one of 111. The fact that it

is elevated at all says you are feeling bad. How high it goes is more a

function of how long you have had insufficient thyroid production.

Chuck

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Sounds like your PA has hit in all the usual places.

Stress can indeed be a trigger. A lot of us ladies

felt onset or worsening of symptoms between our late

30s and early 50s.

Please please please stop seeing the chiropractor and

talk to the rheumy about your back pain. PA can affect

not only the bones of the spine, but the soft tissues

as well. Bone damange and/or soft tissue swelling may

the cause, or pinching a nerve to cause your back

pain. I firmly believe that a series of visits to the

chiro during a flare 30 years ago contributed to the

damage in my spine today.

Please take care and hang in there.

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Hi

I wouldn't worry about the drugs..I would worry if you didn't start

taking something. It is all about trying to halt deterioration and the

quality of life you want for yourself. I am only just turning 40 and

have had PA for about 2 years in a major way. I used to play acoustic

guitar in a couple of bands but can't now because my thumb has gotten

quite bad. I always say..Oh well.. what can you do. You can't let it get

you down. The proper meds will help with the pain and hopefully reduce

or stop the effects of the disease. If you feel better physically you

will feel better mentally which is probably the more important of the

two...in my mind anyway. I am on oral Methotrexate 20mg per week + 5mg

folic acid per day and 15mg Meloxicam (Mobicox,Mobic) as an

antiinflammatory. Also confidence in a Rheumatologist will also

drastically affect your views about the disease.

God Bless

Dave

[ ] Hello

Hi there, I am a 51 year old female, who has given

birth to only one child. Basically have been in good

health over the years. Have come off a 6 year stint

caring for aging parents to the point of exhaustion,

and this is when I believe my PA starting kicking in

for good. I understand it is an autioimmune disorder.

I had an aunt who had " just arthritis " that began at

40, and was in her spine, hips and hands. She is

deceased now, but I believe she probably had PA, too.

Just found this group tonight, didn't know one was out

there for people with Psoriatic Arthritis. I was

searching the web as I have had a right-ear reversable

hearing loss develop from taking Voltaren, and

recently took regular aspirin only two twice a day for

about 10 days, and now my right ear is stuffy and

ringing 3 weeks after stopping aspirin. I am going to

an ENT MD and back to the Rheum. next week if I can

get in. I was diagnosed with PA about 2 years ago, and

have remained fairly untouched by the disease until

recently. I originally sought out a Rheumatologist

because I was having bilateral join aches that my MD

couldn't explain after running sed tests for RA. I

finally took myself to the Rheum. and he did the blood

work that says I am positive for B-27 gene.

I only had a eraser-sized case of Psorasis on my scalp

about 25 years ago, that was treated with some really

stinging medicine, and has never returned. I did have

ecezema on my fingers/toes and finger/toenails as a

child though, that did clear up over time. Currently,

my right index finger is twisting and the DIP joint is

deforming. My left index finger is beginning to twist,

and the DIP joint is aching. The DIP joint of my right

little finger is enlarged. My lower back aches on

occasion, but I attributed it to injurying it after

attempting to lift my invalid father. But it is fairly

constant now, though I seem to get some relief from

going to the Chiropractor, though I wonder if I am

doing damage. The Rheum says no-go ahead if it works.

My feet have hurt like crazy in the past, but so far

are OK. My hips ache the most, especially after going

up and down stairs at home. I had random red swollen

joints at about 10 years old, that the doctors said

was Juv. RA that I would outgrow. I thought I did as I

went a long time without that happening again, but now

in retrospect, I have had random events with joints,

though mild off and on over the years, that I thought

were due to other things, like overexertion, etc. The

Rheum. says in fact, as a child, the mis-diagnosed JRA

was in fact, PA and I have had mild flares and

remissions and didn't know what it was due to. Now

that joints are deforming, I am scared about the drugs

and wonder if this will continue to progress. I am

currently on nothing. The Rheum. just gave me Voltaren

to use as needed, but it rings my ears. I am glad to

find this group, as I look forward to hearing how

others are coping with this disorder. Thanks for

letting me share.

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