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thanks for all the replies to my first post it has been a while since

I logged on and actually read them sorry it took so long

new surgery date is feb 28

and I am looking forward to getting on here everyday to learn as much

as I can

tammy

> oh tammy don't be scared - I had a total hip

replacement just over 3 weeks ago and my pain is less than what it

was before. I'm back driving, I walk my dog a few times a day around

the field, and my overall opinion is that it was worth doing. I only

wished I had it done years ago. You'll do great, get your muscles in

good order now before the op and good luck. There are lots on this

list that will cheer you on.

> ann

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I chose to have an epidural and IV sedation during my hip

replacement last week since the possible side effects of a general

anesthetic scared me. The epidural was painlessly inserted, then the

IV, the next thing I remember I woke up and they were closing me up.

I was completely alert and felt some movement but no pain at any

time. The epidural was left in place for 24 hours for post-op pain.

If I ever have to do the other side I would do it exactly the same

way.

Deb

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I was offered the oportunity to be aware during minimally invasive THR. I watched a THR on or-live.com. After viewing I didn't want to watch or be awake. Mike tfinden <tfinden@...> wrote: thanks for the kind words here is my updateI found out that the doctor that was going to do my surgery was not going to do minimial invasive approach and researched and found a new doctor that does my new surgery date is Feb 28....I am very worried about a lot of issue

this doc says I can remain awake and even watch the procedure not liking that idea anyone awake during the THR they had?> > > I am going to get a hip replacement soon due to leg> > perthes issues as a > > child> > scared> > concerned > > hoping to find friends > > > > > > > Arthur in Pennsylvania> LTHR November 10, 2006> > __________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

I feel the same way but I also have emphasema so being up under is

more dangerous so the OS is really wanted me to do it this way but I

really do not like the idea myself

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thanks Deb I think was concerns me is the smell, and noise and

knowing they are moving my leg in odd positions and the hammer and

sawing I know they are going to do that but I think my nerves will

get the best of me if I was aware of all of that while it was

happening what was your take on these issues?

tammy

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> > > > child

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> > > > concerned

> > > > hoping to find friends

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> > > LTHR November 10, 2006

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I was thrlled to be asleep. I didn't want to hear anything or feel tugging. I had the Versed in the IV that made my goofy and then the intrathecal injection in the spine. I woke pretty easily in recovery. I know I got the additional metal piece that gets hammered into the tibia and I would have not wanted to know about that during surgery.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of tfindenSent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:47 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: new

thanks Deb I think was concerns me is the smell, and noise and knowing they are moving my leg in odd positions and the hammer and sawing I know they are going to do that but I think my nerves will get the best of me if I was aware of all of that while it was happening what was your take on these issues?tammy> > > > > > > I am going to get a hip replacement soon due to leg> > > > perthes issues as a > > > > child> > > > scared> > > > concerned > > > > hoping to find friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arthur in Pennsylvania> > > LTHR November 10, 2006> > > > > > __________________________________________________> > >

[Guest guest]

Tammy, Don't worry. With an epidural and an IV sedative you will not

hear, smell, nor see anything during the operation. I woke up just

as if from a nice nap and felt some gentle rocking but nothing weird

at all. My shoulder was killing me from lying on it and they

repostioned a bit to relieve that. All was quite pleasant. No after

effects whatsoever.

Deb

Rt HRS

02/05/07

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> > > > > perthes issues as a

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[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. I can certainly understand what you are going through

including the insurance problems. Please feel welcome to come here and vent if

you need to. We are all in the same boat here. My problems all stem from the

spine and I can relate to the leg problems. I don't think any of us want to

take all the meds, but, dang, what would we do otherwise. I don't want anymore

surgery, but may be my only choice because of the horrific condition of my T

spine. To find out you have scoliosis at 53!!

Take care, post when you can.

God bless,

Annie

<MagickBeans@...> wrote:

Hello: I'm new to the group and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm

7 days away from turning 50 <g>, from Pennsylvania. I'm

married (almost 29 years) and we have one son who is 22 and getting

ready to graduate college next month.

I've lived with chronic pain for nearly 20 years... but recently it's

gotten much worse and I honestly can't handle it anymore. I see a

pain specialist who has be on methadone and percocet as well as

Lidoderm patches, Xanax, Prozac and Temazepam as a sleep aid. I also

have a rheumatologist I just started seeing (my old doctor left the

area). I have arthritis of the spine, hips and knees as well as

bursitis. Our insurance changed 8 months ago, so I was denied an

MRI. They wanted me to go through physical therapy (AGAIN).

However, my copays are high and add that to a $250 deductible and I

can't afford to go. I suffer almost daily headaches. Never realized

I could be this depressed and frustrated, but I have no idea what to

do next. I've never been a pain med fan and hate feeling constantly

drugged. Every morning I wake up and both legs are " asleep " ...if I

turn the wrong way my leg will buckle...I also have problems

urinating. My rheumatologist tells me Xrays show the arthritis, but

he'd see more with an MRI. I can't wave a magic wand and have

insurance grant me permission...and I certainly can't afford to pay

out-of-pocket. ANY and all suggestions and opinions are welcome.

I look forward to getting to know everyone who understands. Thank

you.

Jean

We become wiser by adversity.

- Seneca

---------------------------------

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

Check outnew cars at Autos.

[Guest guest]

Annie: I'm so sorry about the scoliosis !! What did they do to

determine this? I ask because it was brought up by my

rheumatologist. I do have spinal stenosis...which I'm beginning to

understand is a narrowing of the spinal column. Just so glad I found

the group as I definately need people who understand. I help care

for my elderly Mother (she's 78 and lives on her own, but I take over

meals (she lives next door) and I'm her transportation everywhere)

and when I say anything about pain I get the usual response of " oh,

my knee hurts today, too...so you're not the only one " . ARGG !!

Every day my husband asks " what's wrong " when he sees my pinched

face. Why can't I get anyone to understand chronic pain is EVERYday

and ALL the time??? If I don't mention it every day they think I'm

better.

A venting place is a very good thing LOL

Jean

>

> Hello: I'm new to the group and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm

> 7 days away from turning 50 <g>, from Pennsylvania. I'm

> married (almost 29 years) and we have one son who is 22 and getting

> ready to graduate college next month.

>

> I've lived with chronic pain for nearly 20 years... but recently

it's

> gotten much worse and I honestly can't handle it anymore. I see a

> pain specialist who has be on methadone and percocet as well as

> Lidoderm patches, Xanax, Prozac and Temazepam as a sleep aid. I

also

> have a rheumatologist I just started seeing (my old doctor left the

> area). I have arthritis of the spine, hips and knees as well as

> bursitis. Our insurance changed 8 months ago, so I was denied an

> MRI. They wanted me to go through physical therapy (AGAIN).

> However, my copays are high and add that to a $250 deductible and I

> can't afford to go. I suffer almost daily headaches. Never realized

> I could be this depressed and frustrated, but I have no idea what

to

> do next. I've never been a pain med fan and hate feeling constantly

> drugged. Every morning I wake up and both legs are " asleep " ...if I

> turn the wrong way my leg will buckle...I also have problems

> urinating. My rheumatologist tells me Xrays show the arthritis, but

> he'd see more with an MRI. I can't wave a magic wand and have

> insurance grant me permission...and I certainly can't afford to pay

> out-of-pocket. ANY and all suggestions and opinions are welcome.

>

> I look forward to getting to know everyone who understands. Thank

> you.

>

> Jean

>

>

>

>

>

>

> We become wiser by adversity.

> - Seneca

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The scoliosis was revealed in a cat scan. I also have spinal stenosis,

several herniations, major bone, join and muscle deterioration, disintegration,

bone spurs - that is in my thoracic spine. I have a L5 herniated disk.

Cervical fusion c3,4,5. Yeah, it amazes me what people say. I would love to

have just a little ache or pain once in awhile.

Annie

<MagickBeans@...> wrote:

Annie: I'm so sorry about the scoliosis !! What did they do to

determine this? I ask because it was brought up by my

rheumatologist. I do have spinal stenosis...which I'm beginning to

understand is a narrowing of the spinal column. Just so glad I found

the group as I definately need people who understand. I help care

for my elderly Mother (she's 78 and lives on her own, but I take over

meals (she lives next door) and I'm her transportation everywhere)

and when I say anything about pain I get the usual response of " oh,

my knee hurts today, too...so you're not the only one " . ARGG !!

Every day my husband asks " what's wrong " when he sees my pinched

face. Why can't I get anyone to understand chronic pain is EVERYday

and ALL the time??? If I don't mention it every day they think I'm

better.

A venting place is a very good thing LOL

Jean

>

> Hello: I'm new to the group and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm

> 7 days away from turning 50 <g>, from Pennsylvania. I'm

> married (almost 29 years) and we have one son who is 22 and getting

> ready to graduate college next month.

>

> I've lived with chronic pain for nearly 20 years... but recently

it's

> gotten much worse and I honestly can't handle it anymore. I see a

> pain specialist who has be on methadone and percocet as well as

> Lidoderm patches, Xanax, Prozac and Temazepam as a sleep aid. I

also

> have a rheumatologist I just started seeing (my old doctor left the

> area). I have arthritis of the spine, hips and knees as well as

> bursitis. Our insurance changed 8 months ago, so I was denied an

> MRI. They wanted me to go through physical therapy (AGAIN).

> However, my copays are high and add that to a $250 deductible and I

> can't afford to go. I suffer almost daily headaches. Never realized

> I could be this depressed and frustrated, but I have no idea what

to

> do next. I've never been a pain med fan and hate feeling constantly

> drugged. Every morning I wake up and both legs are " asleep " ...if I

> turn the wrong way my leg will buckle...I also have problems

> urinating. My rheumatologist tells me Xrays show the arthritis, but

> he'd see more with an MRI. I can't wave a magic wand and have

> insurance grant me permission...and I certainly can't afford to pay

> out-of-pocket. ANY and all suggestions and opinions are welcome.

>

> I look forward to getting to know everyone who understands. Thank

> you.

>

> Jean

>

>

>

>

>

>

> We become wiser by adversity.

> - Seneca

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Welcome to the group, sorry I didn't say it before.

I have spinal stenosis too. I know because my mri says it, not because any

doctor acknowledges it. It stinks. Yes, the pain is all the time, just varies in

degrees.

I am still determined to find another doctor and will be starting with another

PT next week.

Hang in there with us. Do everything you know to make yourself comfortable and

happy and don't worry if others don't understand. I bet your husband

understands. I think sometimes it's hard for them to accept it themselves that

we are in so much pain or how we could be alright one moment and bad the next. I

think my husband knows this but when I cry, I know it's hard for him to know if

I'm crying from pain or depression and frustration from the pain.

I plan on getting help and understanding what I can. The doctors, after almost

2 years haven't helped, but I go on, determined by the strength of God to not

give up.

Anyway, welcome again.

Barbara

<MagickBeans@...> wrote:

Annie: I'm so sorry about the scoliosis !! What did they do to

determine this? I ask because it was brought up by my

rheumatologist. I do have spinal stenosis...which I'm beginning to

understand is a narrowing of the spinal column. Just so glad I found

the group as I definately need people who understand. I help care

for my elderly Mother (she's 78 and lives on her own, but I take over

meals (she lives next door) and I'm her transportation everywhere)

and when I say anything about pain I get the usual response of " oh,

my knee hurts today, too...so you're not the only one " . ARGG !!

Every day my husband asks " what's wrong " when he sees my pinched

face. Why can't I get anyone to understand chronic pain is EVERYday

and ALL the time??? If I don't mention it every day they think I'm

better.

A venting place is a very good thing LOL

Jean

>

> Hello: I'm new to the group and thought I'd introduce myself. I'm

> 7 days away from turning 50 , from Pennsylvania. I'm

> married (almost 29 years) and we have one son who is 22 and getting

> ready to graduate college next month.

>

> I've lived with chronic pain for nearly 20 years... but recently

it's

> gotten much worse and I honestly can't handle it anymore. I see a

> pain specialist who has be on methadone and percocet as well as

> Lidoderm patches, Xanax, Prozac and Temazepam as a sleep aid. I

also

> have a rheumatologist I just started seeing (my old doctor left the

> area). I have arthritis of the spine, hips and knees as well as

> bursitis. Our insurance changed 8 months ago, so I was denied an

> MRI. They wanted me to go through physical therapy (AGAIN).

> However, my copays are high and add that to a $250 deductible and I

> can't afford to go. I suffer almost daily headaches. Never realized

> I could be this depressed and frustrated, but I have no idea what

to

> do next. I've never been a pain med fan and hate feeling constantly

> drugged. Every morning I wake up and both legs are " asleep " ...if I

> turn the wrong way my leg will buckle...I also have problems

> urinating. My rheumatologist tells me Xrays show the arthritis, but

> he'd see more with an MRI. I can't wave a magic wand and have

> insurance grant me permission...and I certainly can't afford to pay

> out-of-pocket. ANY and all suggestions and opinions are welcome.

>

> I look forward to getting to know everyone who understands. Thank

> you.

>

> Jean

>

>

>

>

>

>

> We become wiser by adversity.

> - Seneca

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group lyn.Enclosed herewith please find the links of some of the articles explaining the philosophy of the group.

The tips on past life regression,however would be welcome.

http://mukulchaudhri.blogspot.com

New

Hello :)I'm new to the list. I have gone through only a few messages in the archives. Are most people on the list from India? I see that the list is in English, for the most part, though.I'm not "that" familiar with certain words coming from Yoga meditations, but I know a couple of them here and there. I "do" meditate and I understand "positive thinking". I have a strong background in past life regressions and something called Emotional Freedom Technique and one I created called Plex Method. That's just to give you an idea of what I'm about - its not an ad .I have a couple of things I could talk about, but am I on the right list?Lyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky, welcome. I am new too. I am Kristi, wife & mother of 2 and that

is plenty, thank you! I was diagnosed about 2 years ago and have been on

Remicade Infusions every 6 weeks and 12.5mgs of Methotraxate weekly w/

Folic Acid daily. So far so good for me. The best part is that my

Psoriasis is GONE!! No more embarrassment. The pain is managed with

Darvacet & Flexeril as needed but I don't tend to have too much since

starting the Remicade.

Look forward to getting to know everyone too!

Kristi

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Becky! I was diagnosed about 18 months ago. I have the

opposite problem - the Humira is helping my arthritis but not my P.

Are you seeing a rheumatologist or just a derm? If you're not going to

a rheumy, you should. Your meds need tweaking - 10 months is long

enough to have seen significant improvement in your joints by now.

Don't hesitate to ask questions here. We're not doctors, but have a

lot of practical info that is helpful to all. I know that I've gained

more practical help here than from any of my doctors!

best regards,

sherry z

>

> Hello. I just joined the group and thought I would introduce myself.

> My name is Becky and I am a 32 wife and mother of 4. I was dx last

> February with Psoriatic Arthritis. I have been taking Enbrel

> injections for about 10 months now. I have seen a big improvement in

> the psoriasis but my arthritis pain continues to worsen. I look

> forward to meeting new people familiar with issues that I deal with.

> Thanks! Becky

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for your welcome and advice Sherry!! I have only seen a derm.

but I agree it may be time to go to a rhuem. Becki

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...> wrote: Welcome, Becky! I was

diagnosed about 18 months ago. I have the

opposite problem - the Humira is helping my arthritis but not my P.

Are you seeing a rheumatologist or just a derm? If you're not going to

a rheumy, you should. Your meds need tweaking - 10 months is long

enough to have seen significant improvement in your joints by now.

Don't hesitate to ask questions here. We're not doctors, but have a

lot of practical info that is helpful to all. I know that I've gained

more practical help here than from any of my doctors!

best regards,

sherry z

[Guest guest]

Becky, call the rheumy right away. It can take up to 3 months to get

an appointment the first time! Better yet, get your derm to make the

appointment for you - that might speed things up a little bit. For

most of us, the derm handles the skin part and the rheumy handles the

joint part. They should work together. My derm prescribes my topicals

and the rheumy prescribes the pain meds, biologics, anti-

inflammatories, etc. The rheumy will also do x-rays to see if/how much

damage has been done to your bones. The rheumy might also refer you

for physical therapy, etc. The rheumy would also be the one to fill

out medical papers in case you apply for disability. I feel you've

wasted far too much time already if you've been on meds for 10 months

with little improvement in your joint symptoms. Don't waste any more

time - PA *can* cause permanent damage. Don't panic, but take the next

step quickly to avoid any future problems.

best regards,

sherry z

>

> Thanks so much for your welcome and advice Sherry!! I have only

seen a derm. but I agree it may be time to go to a rhuem. Becki

[Guest guest]

Hi! I'm also new to the PA List. I've had psoriasis since age 9 (started on

elbows and knees, spread to involve most of my body). In my late 20s I began to

show symptoms of both gout and arthritis. Participated in a study of a new form

of systemic treatment -- horrible side-effects, including my palms and soles

would exfoliate every few days, leaving my feet and hands raw. After I stopped

the study, my joints began deteriorating with a vengeance (my theory is that the

psoriasis imbalance was driven deeper into the bones). My left leg is now two

inches shorter than my right (left hip ball-joint is bent almost double!), and

my neck is almost immobilized.

I left my job as a civil servant in New York City and was accepted on Social

Security Disability about seven years ago. I have Medicare (but not Medicaid),

go to Clinics in local hospitals, and desperately need a Home Care Assistant

(but because I'm only 57 years old, can't get one), and must rely on the

kindness of friends and family.

About a year ago a new rheumatologist at the clinic asked me if I ever used any

of the biologic injections. I hadn't. He suggested I consider them. A year

later I took the plunge (never one for fast decisions!) -- I had my first

injection of Humira on November 19th.

So far, I was relieved that the injections do not hurt (much), and I have no

complications with the injection sites. I feel woozy for about a half hour

after the shot. I've noticed pain in my lower legs, like shin splints -- not

normally a source of pain for me. After two shots, no miraculous changes; I

have gouty tophi on elbows and fingers, and some of them are opening up and

exuding white uric acid fluid (is this good or bad?). One opened and bled

profusely -- that was scary! I'm sleeping too much since I started treatment,

often feel chilly or feverish. For several months I have been having difficulty

with loose stools, and I'm still running frequently to the bathroom -- my GP

took me off Colchesine (a gout medicine that often causes diarrhea) -- some

slight improvement, but still living on the potty.

My skin is still covered with lesions, but somewhat less dry looking. Except

for my lower legs -- my calves and ankles are much more crusty, thick, and

flaking than usual. Weird. I've also been showing edema in my left calf --

it's quite swollen, and sometimes oozes clear liquid.

I have bumpy, twisted fingers, and no strength in my hands. I can't imagine

being dexterous enough to perform my own injections. So far, I go to the

Hospital Clinic for my twice-monthly shots. I'm negotiating for Visiting Nurse

Services to give me injections at home during the winter months. I've become

virtually home-bound, and I don't like it! Now Access-A-Ride here in New York

is on strike, so it's more difficult (and expensive!) to get anywhere.

My prescription coverage is through Medicare Part D. They just informed me that

I am no longer covered for Dovonex Ointment. Drat! It was a non-steroidal

topical that worked pretty well for me. (And scarily expensive, I see.) Oh,

well.

I'm interested in hearing from others on this list who have been using Humira

(or other Biologics), and who might have suggestions, advice, and so forth.

-- Len

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...> wrote: Becky,

call the rheumy right away. It can take up to 3 months to get

an appointment the first time! Better yet, get your derm to make the

appointment for you - that might speed things up a little bit.

[Guest guest]

I can't comment on Humira (I'm on Enbrel - worked wonders for me but took a few

months and I had just developed and been diagnosed with it) but I would double

check with your Part D insurer about dropping your coverage for a particular

drug. Mine has done that too but only in cases where there is a generic or an

OTC now available. (I've just received notice on two of them I was taking but

neither is a problem. I always opt for generics if they're available though

Zyrtec going to OTC will likely end up costing me more!!!

If your doctor really believes you need this drug, there is also opportunity for

appealing and making an exception.

The doctor would normally handle this.

Sounds like you've had a really rough time of it. I am so sorry. Here in IL,

there is a Personal Assistant Program available at the state level designed to

help people stay in their own apartments rather than go to a nursing home.

Costs the state less, and the assistant is hired by and works for the patient.

Depending on the circumstances, the assistant may or may not administer drugs.

Approval is for a certain number of hours per day. More states should have

programs like this. I think I read that it costs IL $10,000 less per patient

per year. .

Joanna Hoelscher

630-833-7361

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Len! I've been on Humira for about 10 months. I saw some

improvement pretty quickly - the pustular P on my fingertips cleared

up. Also, within about 8 weeks I could notice improvement in my

joints. However, twice a month just wasn't doing the job for me. We

went to 3 times a month, and now we've gone to weekly injections.

Each increase in dosage helped more! You might consider asking your

rheumy about increasing the dose. Don't wait for the next

appointment - go ahead and call the rheumy and say you don't feel

enough improvement and ask about the next step.

best regards,

sherry z

>

> I'm interested in hearing from others on this list who have been

using Humira (or other Biologics), and who might have suggestions,

advice, and so forth.

>

> -- Len

[Guest guest]

The DDD will not get better, I'm sorry to say. But if they fuse you, then the

disc problems at that level will be dealt with as best as they can. Surgery is

not an easy thing to decide for/against; I'm sorry that you had a bad

experience with it in the past. Revision surgery seems more complicated to me,

because your current surgeon doesn't know all that was done in the previous

surgery. Have you obtained detailed surgical notes from the previous

operations? You can get these records - just have to sign a release and make

sure they know you want them for yourself. Usually they want to transfer the

records themselves to the other doctor, but you have the right to have copies of

them.

There has to be a better life than being spaced out on meds. I feel for you! I

hate to take pills so I avoid it until the pain is too bad. Then I hope to just

knock the edge off the pain. I believe a little pain is good because your body

is telling you to be careful. If I was totally medicated to the point that I

could not feel any pain, I'd likely hurt myself further and then pay for it when

the meds wore off. And I've done this on a small scale, but certainly don't

want to do it on a larger scale!!!

Debbie Dahl

Oklahoma

[Guest guest]

>

> I just bought some Concunt oil (specturm) at the health store and was

> wondering how much to take?? I think I have problems with yeast along

> with many stomach issues. How much do I start with and when can I see a

> benefit??

> Thanks,

> Kim

>

Hi Kim,

I started with just one tablespoon of virgin coconut oil (VCO) for a

week, just to see what my stomach reaction would be. When all went

fine, I increased it to 2 tablespoons the following week and now I'm

taking 4 tablespoons a day and I feel great!

Coconut oil (CNO) has tremendous benefits for the stomach and the

digestive system as a whole. It cleanses the pipes, so to speak, to

give you a healthier digestive system, not just your stomach.

I, too, had fungal problems. Again, CNO can help you address your

yeast situation. Coconut oil can kill bacteria, viruses and FUNGUS

like no other oil can, and safe at that.

Give it at least a couple of months to see some genuine results. Like

in other areas in life like business and relationships, if it's too

fast, it probably won't last. Slow and steady ultimately wins the day.

Give it time and a fair shot. You have absolutely nothing to lose

because it's 100% safe. Good luck.

Hope this helps,

Frederick

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello everybody, I'm new here...how do you NOT eat sugar, as all foods

> have sugar in them? Nothing seems to work for me, been to doctors too.

> Thanks.

>

All foods do NOT have sugar in them - just a lot of them do,

especially processed foods. The foods on the lists in the files

don't. Eating closer to nature gets rid of a majority of foods that

have sugar in them. It's not easy because we've been trained to

prepare foods certain ways and this requires doing something

completely differently. It can be done, though, with determination

and creativity. (Still trying to find both of those for me!)

Pamela

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello everybody, I'm new here...how do you NOT eat sugar, as all

foods

> have sugar in them? Nothing seems to work for me, been to doctors too.

> Thanks.

==>Hi. Welcome to our group. Is your name ?

As Pamela wrote, not all foods contain sugar. Meats, eggs, and

the " good " fats and oils I recommend do not contain any sugar. The

reason doctors haven't helped you is because they only know to treat

the body with drugs and surgery. Any and all drugs are toxic/poisonous

to the body as well. Doctors only get about 5-8 hours training in

nutrition and it is mostly wrong information. They also do not believe

the body can heal itself. However that is false since " only the body

can heal itself, " if you give it what it needs to do its job. That

includes proper nutrients (my diet plus supplements) and elimination of

toxins, including drugs, damaging foods, foods that feed candida,

processed foods that contain pesticides and chemical additives &

preservatives, etc.

Doctor believe that candida can be killed off in order to get rid of

it. That is also untrue. Candida can only be cured by building up the

immune system so it becomes strong enough to " make " candida change back

into the friendly organism it is supposed to be in the body. That is

why my program works so effectively! It also provides you with enough

information so you can maintain your health throughout life.

The best place to start is by thoroughly reading the article " How to

Successfully Overcome Candida " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

And also print out the article " Curing Candida, How to Get Started " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

Also see the diet lists:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_2.php

The articles above are on my new website, but it is still under

construction so it does not contain any recipes or success stories

yet. To find recipes go to this Group's Files (left-hand menu).

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> The articles above are on my new website, but it is still under

> construction so it does not contain any recipes or success stories

> yet. To find recipes go to this Group's Files (left-hand menu).

>

> The best in health, Bee

>

Hi Bee, Yes my name is and thanks for your welcome. I

appreciate your answering and I will read the articles. Have had

this for quite some time, does not go away only gets worse. Now am

having troubles with sleeping, was wondering if this is related?

Thanks for your advice...

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > The articles above are on my new website, but it is still under

> > construction so it does not contain any recipes or success stories

> > yet. To find recipes go to this Group's Files (left-hand menu).

> >

> > The best in health, Bee

>

> >

> Hi Bee, Yes my name is and thanks for your welcome. I

> appreciate your answering and I will read the articles. Have had

> this for quite some time, does not go away only gets worse. Now am

> having troubles with sleeping, was wondering if this is related?

> Thanks for your advice...

==>Hi . I love your name; one of my daughter's middle name is

. Yes sleep problems can occur when you have candida.

The reason it is getting worse is because you must build up your

immune system in order to cure candida. You will be very happy with

the program over the long term because it does cure candida, and you

also learn what to do to maintain life-long health. It is a natural

healing program that will improve anyone's health, but it takes time,

patience, and persistence.

We are here to help and support you so you are successful too!

Cheers, Bee