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Hi everyone,

I just got a call tonight that one of my support group members is moving to

North Carolina. Does anyone know of a LLD in that area or close to NC. I do

not know what part of the state she is going to. Please e-mail me privately

aat Cslyme@...

Thanks so very much,

Connie

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<< I gave formuls #2 a try along with 1 of the Formula #1

and my fiber, well this constipated me again even worse and my

swelling began again so I stopped formula #2 and am now back to

trying formula #1 by itself with the fiber (i'm taking 3 formula #1)

and haven't been able to have a movement for 5 days now. >>

====

I am sorry to hear about your problems but certainly can relate to them.

There are several avenues you can take but since you started with Dr Schulze

I would continue to work with that right now.

I could not take # 2 either.

But taken only one #1 is obviouly not enough for you.

Do you have DR Schulze's habdbook with his instructions?

He recommends taking one and up the dose by one every day until you have

normal BM's before starting # 2. And once yo do increase # 1 by one more.

In other words--if you are taking 5 #1 and start # 2--take 6 #1 from there on

out. According to him you can take as much as 14 a day but I am not sure

about that.

What kind of Fiber are you taking?

Psyllium is something that I could never take, it always clogged me up.

The best I found was Fiberblend from Aim's.

Another good option is Homozon. That will clean out your entire digestive

track.

I am only recommending this because I was in your shoes and did it myself.

I have been working on mine for 2 years now and am still at it.

It is not a one time thing. You have years of builtup in your colon and it

has to come out. Here is a pic to give you an idea what you are dealing with

bowel cleanse/files/DrJensen/mucoidal-plaque3.jpg

A good book on the subject is

>>Tissue cleansing through Bowel Management<< by Bernard Jenson. It is small

,easy to read but has a wealth of information. It's only 12 bucks.

I don't want to overload you , just give you a little starter.

Good luck

Christel

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Did you get any of the schulze teaching information? It's important

that when you use F2 you drink PLENTY of water. F2 is mainly for

cleansing. I never use it if I am not juice fasting and cleansing. If

I were you I would focus on moving the bowels and my diet before I

used the F2 again. You might consider doing raw foods only -- fresh

juices also. I wouldn't say I suffer from a slow bowel, but I have

to be careful. A few things that I do that keeps me regular are... I

grind about a tablespoon of flax seed in my coffee grinder and put it

in my morning smoothie or on a salad.(fiber as well as some benficial

oils). Exercise is of great help as well as pumpping the abdominal

muscles. It is a yoga exercise, I think you could find something on

the web about it if not in a yoga book. I think what Schulze would

suggest is after you get your bowel moving 2-3 times a day you start

cleansing the liver then move on to the kidney. If you have had this

much trouble for as long as you say I would be very careful and go

slowly with the cleanses. Detox isn't always fun. Schulze is also

big on high enema's. The idea is to clean the colon before you move

on to other organs. High nutrition as in raw or just juice.

Digestion takes a lot of the body's energy and if you juice---all

that energy can go to healing. Read some of the back posts--I'm

fairly new to the group and there's several different methods people

are using to cleanse. I love Schulze products, but I don't use his

F1, I use an ayurvedic called Triphala. It is milder and if you don't

have a problem with Schulze's F1 then I would stick with that one. I

also get a bloat in my abdominal area and have found that grains--all

of them --are a problem. You might want to stay away from grains for

a while--I know that some will not agree with this but it seems to be

an issue for me. Raw Foods as much as possible or completely-- if

you are willing to go there for a while. You might also do castor oil

packs. They are amazing. I would do it to the entire abdominal area

and focus on the liver. Someone earlier mentioned you can just do a

web search on castor oil pack and can get instructions.

Good Luck

Elaine

> Hi my name is Bea and I've been constipated all my life. About 7

> years ago I began to take laxitives in an effort to find relief for

> my constipation I got to the point where I was taking 4 & 5

laxitives

> a day well when that stopped working for me I decided to stop

taking

> the laxitives cold turkey and 2 days later ended up in the

emergency

> room doctors there could not find anything wrong with me and sent

me

> about my way, so I went home feeling helpless. Eventually me

> contipation worsened and my lower abdomen began to swell making me

> appear to look as if I were 5 months pregnant (which I am not) so

> again another trip to the emergency room this time doctors ran x-

rays

> and catscans and still found nothing. By this point I took matters

> into my own hands and sought the help of a G.I. specialists at my

> Medical Center, there they ran blood tests, ultrasounds, endoscopy

> and colonoscopy and still they found nothing wrong with me. Not

> happy with there findings I opted for a second opinion so I sought

> out a second doctor who specializes in Digestive Problems. He

> referred me to have more tests done, a barium enema, a di-fecal

graph

> and an anal rectal menometry and still they've found nothing, now

> they want to do another colonoscopy. And he also suggested I take

a

> fiber supplement such a metamucil along with milk of magnesia to

help

> until they can figure out whats wrong with me.

>

> Well I talked to a friend about my problem and she referred me to

Dr.

> Schulzes detoxification program consisting of the bowel cleanse

> formulas 1 & 2, so I purchased both and I'm also taking a fiber

> supplement every morning. For 2 weeks I only used the fiber and

> formula #1 and eventually began having 2 movements a day so on the

> following week I gave formuls #2 a try along with 1 of the Formula

#1

> and my fiber, well this constipated me again even worse and my

> swelling began again so I stopped formula #2 and am now back to

> trying formula #1 by itself with the fiber (i'm taking 3 formula

#1)

> and haven't been able to have a movement for 5 days now. Please

help

> I'm desparate for a solution to my problem. I've even had to go to

> the doctors again for what I thought was breathing problems but

> apparently they say I'm suffuring from Anxiety and I think it has

to

> do with my constant frustations of not being able to have regular

> bowel movements. I've also missed 5 months of work due to the fact

> of my swelling, making it uncomfortable to wear normal cloths. I

> work with children and I can't perform 100% while I have this

> problem. PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!

>

> thanks for reading my story.

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Christelti@... writes:

> Do you have DR Schulze's habdbook with his instructions?

>

Here is an online link for Dr. Schulze Patient Handbook, for anyone who is

interested:

<A

HREF= " http://www.learnhealth.org/patient/index.html " >http://www.learnhealth.org/\

patient/index.html</A>

in health,

rachel~

" Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford

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prietonana@... writes:

> For 2 weeks I only used the fiber and

> formula #1 and eventually began having 2 movements a day so on the

> following week I gave formuls #2 a try along with 1 of the Formula #1

> and my fiber, well this constipated me again even worse and my

> swelling began again so I stopped formula #2 and

I'm not an expert, but just throwing my .02 in here. Since Formula #2

contains psyllium seed, wouldn't it be overkill to also be taking fiber? I

mean - this could be why it constipated you again, couldn't it?

rachel~

" Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford

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Hi Jackie,

I received your e-mail, glad to know I'm not the only

on out there who's been through this misery with

constant constipation. Yes, Dr. Schulze's Intestinal

Formula #1 has been working for me. I now take 5

pills a night just after supper with a full glass of

water and by morning I get relief. I hope this

formula will work for you, don't give up just keep

adding one more pill to your dose nightly until you

get the same results and you'll be amazed at the

results.

Best of luck! Let me know how it works out for you.

Beatriz

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hi every one

all of you have new and valuable information daily.

could any one help me, my case is as below:

i had lung cancer diagnosed in early 201 my oncologist put me on chemotherapy 3

cycle each after 3 week the he advise the surgery and was operated on 12 july

201 after that he gave me an other 3 cycle chemo.

and with that i was declare cure, well after that i discover MGN-3 and vitamin

c & e which i was taking all along.

now last one week i feel some pain in my lung and went for CT scane and find out

some nodules scars and thickning of pelural the dr say might be it is re

accuring... any one can advise me what to do...

thanks

On Mon, 14 January 2002, " ronwilson " wrote:

>

>

>

> Amazing E

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Researchers have known for some time that vitamin E can help

> lower the risk of the development and spread of prostate cancer.

> But until now, it was not known exactly why vitamin E helped

> while other antioxidant vitamins proved to be ineffective

> against this disease.

>

> First, some background. Let's start with PSA, or

> prostate-specific antigen, a protein that is the primary marker

> of the cancer. Men over age 40 are encouraged to have their PSA

> level checked annually through a simple blood test to assess

> their risk of prostate cancer. A " normal " PSA level is below 4.0

> ng/l (nanograms per liter); anything above 10.0 ng/l is

> considered a cause for concern. That's because higher PSA levels

> indicate the presence of androgen receptor (AR), a testosterone

> receptor that must be present in the cell for cancer to grow.

> When AR is present and active, PSA levels climb.

>

> Last month a team of researchers from the University of

> Rochester reported that their laboratory research of human

> prostate cancer cell cultures demonstrated a prostate cancer

> vulnerability that was previously unknown.

>

> The researchers discovered that vitamin E inhibits AR activity

> in prostate cancer cells, which in turn decreases the PSA. More

> important, however, is the ability of vitamin E to regulate or

> completely halt the genes responsible for the cancer's ability

> to grow -- because many of those genes grow only when activated

> by AR.

>

> In fact, the research demonstrated that the PSA levels can drop

> by as much as 80 to 90 percent when prostate cancer cells are

> exposed to vitamin E, an indication that the cell growth is

> slowed considerably. Further, vitamin E decreases the number of

> cancer cells as well, typically by 25 to 50 percent and

> sometimes even as high as 90 percent.

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

> No excuses! E is easy to get

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Two other important notes from the University of Rochester team

> focus on vitamin supplements.

>

> First, the researchers found that the effects of vitamin E on

> prostate cancer may be improved when used with other natural

> treatments such as selenium and vitamin D. And second - and

> perhaps more important - the type of vitamin E known as vitamin

> E succinate (or alpha-tocopheryl succinate) was shown to be the

> most effective in halting prostate cancer cells. In other words,

> if you drop by your health food store and pick a bottle of E at

> random off the shelf, you may be getting a less effective

> synthetic variety of the vitamin. So read your labels before you

> buy, and look for the natural vitamin E succinate.

>

> There are also a number of good food sources of vitamin E,

> including dark green leafy vegetables, avocados, whole grains,

> nuts, dried beans, vegetable oils, seafood, eggs, and organ

> meats such as liver and kidney.

>

> When it comes to fighting cancer, every little bit helps, so you

> should be aware that there are several other natural supplements

> that help control diseases of the prostate, including milk

> thistle and curcumin (a spice that's also known as turmeric).

> Saw palmetto has also been recognized by the AMA and researchers

> at Harvard as showing great promise in the fight against

> prostate cancer. All of these are relatively inexpensive

> supplements available at most health food stores.

>

> If you're a male 40 or older, I hope you'll make prostate

> awareness and cancer prevention a part of your everyday routine.

> It's easy to do, pretty inexpensive and, for a lot of us, the

> only way we'll end up on a list with the greats like Arnie

> Palmer (the list of survivors, that is).

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Raj,

Have you considered essiac tea? I know of a lot of

people that have had great success with it. A good

place to buy it is www.essiac-herbal.com. Not only

are they very reasonably priced, but they have an

expert alt med person ( hus) who really knows

her stuff when it comes to alternative treatments.

She can be reached through the site (phone or e-mail.

Good luck!

--- raj rajput <iqblrj@...> wrote:

>

> hi every one

> all of you have new and valuable information daily.

> could any one help me, my case is as below:

> i had lung cancer diagnosed in early 201 my

> oncologist put me on chemotherapy 3 cycle each after

> 3 week the he advise the surgery and was operated on

> 12 july 201 after that he gave me an other 3 cycle

> chemo.

> and with that i was declare cure, well after that i

> discover MGN-3 and vitamin c & e which i was taking

> all along.

> now last one week i feel some pain in my lung and

> went for CT scane and find out some nodules scars

> and thickning of pelural the dr say might be it is

> re accuring... any one can advise me what to do...

> thanks

>

> On Mon, 14 January 2002, " ronwilson " wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Amazing E

> >

>

--------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Researchers have known for some time that vitamin

> E can help

> > lower the risk of the development and spread of

> prostate cancer.

> > But until now, it was not known exactly why

> vitamin E helped

> > while other antioxidant vitamins proved to be

> ineffective

> > against this disease.

> >

> > First, some background. Let's start with PSA, or

> > prostate-specific antigen, a protein that is the

> primary marker

> > of the cancer. Men over age 40 are encouraged to

> have their PSA

> > level checked annually through a simple blood test

> to assess

> > their risk of prostate cancer. A " normal " PSA

> level is below 4.0

> > ng/l (nanograms per liter); anything above 10.0

> ng/l is

> > considered a cause for concern. That's because

> higher PSA levels

> > indicate the presence of androgen receptor (AR), a

> testosterone

> > receptor that must be present in the cell for

> cancer to grow.

> > When AR is present and active, PSA levels climb.

> >

> > Last month a team of researchers from the

> University of

> > Rochester reported that their laboratory research

> of human

> > prostate cancer cell cultures demonstrated a

> prostate cancer

> > vulnerability that was previously unknown.

> >

> > The researchers discovered that vitamin E inhibits

> AR activity

> > in prostate cancer cells, which in turn decreases

> the PSA. More

> > important, however, is the ability of vitamin E to

> regulate or

> > completely halt the genes responsible for the

> cancer's ability

> > to grow -- because many of those genes grow only

> when activated

> > by AR.

> >

> > In fact, the research demonstrated that the PSA

> levels can drop

> > by as much as 80 to 90 percent when prostate

> cancer cells are

> > exposed to vitamin E, an indication that the cell

> growth is

> > slowed considerably. Further, vitamin E decreases

> the number of

> > cancer cells as well, typically by 25 to 50

> percent and

> > sometimes even as high as 90 percent.

> >

> >

>

--------------------------------------------------------------

> > No excuses! E is easy to get

> >

>

--------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Two other important notes from the University of

> Rochester team

> > focus on vitamin supplements.

> >

> > First, the researchers found that the effects of

> vitamin E on

> > prostate cancer may be improved when used with

> other natural

> > treatments such as selenium and vitamin D. And

> second - and

> > perhaps more important - the type of vitamin E

> known as vitamin

> > E succinate (or alpha-tocopheryl succinate) was

> shown to be the

> > most effective in halting prostate cancer cells.

> In other words,

> > if you drop by your health food store and pick a

> bottle of E at

> > random off the shelf, you may be getting a less

> effective

> > synthetic variety of the vitamin. So read your

> labels before you

> > buy, and look for the natural vitamin E succinate.

> >

> > There are also a number of good food sources of

> vitamin E,

> > including dark green leafy vegetables, avocados,

> whole grains,

> > nuts, dried beans, vegetable oils, seafood, eggs,

> and organ

> > meats such as liver and kidney.

> >

> > When it comes to fighting cancer, every little bit

> helps, so you

> > should be aware that there are several other

> natural supplements

> > that help control diseases of the prostate,

> including milk

> > thistle and curcumin (a spice that's also known as

> turmeric).

> > Saw palmetto has also been recognized by the AMA

> and researchers

> > at Harvard as showing great promise in the fight

> against

> > prostate cancer. All of these are relatively

> inexpensive

> > supplements available at most health food stores.

> >

> > If you're a male 40 or older, I hope you'll make

> prostate

> > awareness and cancer prevention a part of your

> everyday routine.

> > It's easy to do, pretty inexpensive and, for a lot

> of us, the

> > only way we'll end up on a list with the greats

> like Arnie

> > Palmer (the list of survivors, that is).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Raj,

You may want to look into the benefits of Noni, it has been used for over 2000

years for a number of medical problems including cancer with very good results.

It works at a cellular level and basically seeks out " sick cells " and assits

them in healing themselves.

For more information go to http://www.incc.org and be sure to read the

testimonies page.

If you decide you want to try this approach you can contact me direct

leskruse@... or go to my web site http://www.leskruse.com I have been

drinking TAHITIAN NONI Juice for over two months now since being diagnosed with

early stage cancer of the esophugus and am having wonderful results. I became a

distributor so I can purchase it at wholesale and have been sharing it with

others at the wholesale price.

Good luck and remember that the Doctors don't have all the answers, or the final

word.

Les

Re: [ ] need help

hi every one

all of you have new and valuable information daily.

could any one help me, my case is as below:

i had lung cancer diagnosed in early 201 my oncologist put me on chemotherapy

3 cycle each after 3 week the he advise the surgery and was operated on 12 july

201 after that he gave me an other 3 cycle chemo.

and with that i was declare cure, well after that i discover MGN-3 and vitamin

c & e which i was taking all along.

now last one week i feel some pain in my lung and went for CT scane and find

out some nodules scars and thickning of pelural the dr say might be it is re

accuring... any one can advise me what to do...

thanks

On Mon, 14 January 2002, " ronwilson " wrote:

>

>

>

> Amazing E

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Researchers have known for some time that vitamin E can help

> lower the risk of the development and spread of prostate cancer.

> But until now, it was not known exactly why vitamin E helped

> while other antioxidant vitamins proved to be ineffective

> against this disease.

>

> First, some background. Let's start with PSA, or

> prostate-specific antigen, a protein that is the primary marker

> of the cancer. Men over age 40 are encouraged to have their PSA

> level checked annually through a simple blood test to assess

> their risk of prostate cancer. A " normal " PSA level is below 4.0

> ng/l (nanograms per liter); anything above 10.0 ng/l is

> considered a cause for concern. That's because higher PSA levels

> indicate the presence of androgen receptor (AR), a testosterone

> receptor that must be present in the cell for cancer to grow.

> When AR is present and active, PSA levels climb.

>

> Last month a team of researchers from the University of

> Rochester reported that their laboratory research of human

> prostate cancer cell cultures demonstrated a prostate cancer

> vulnerability that was previously unknown.

>

> The researchers discovered that vitamin E inhibits AR activity

> in prostate cancer cells, which in turn decreases the PSA. More

> important, however, is the ability of vitamin E to regulate or

> completely halt the genes responsible for the cancer's ability

> to grow -- because many of those genes grow only when activated

> by AR.

>

> In fact, the research demonstrated that the PSA levels can drop

> by as much as 80 to 90 percent when prostate cancer cells are

> exposed to vitamin E, an indication that the cell growth is

> slowed considerably. Further, vitamin E decreases the number of

> cancer cells as well, typically by 25 to 50 percent and

> sometimes even as high as 90 percent.

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------

> No excuses! E is easy to get

> --------------------------------------------------------------

>

> Two other important notes from the University of Rochester team

> focus on vitamin supplements.

>

> First, the researchers found that the effects of vitamin E on

> prostate cancer may be improved when used with other natural

> treatments such as selenium and vitamin D. And second - and

> perhaps more important - the type of vitamin E known as vitamin

> E succinate (or alpha-tocopheryl succinate) was shown to be the

> most effective in halting prostate cancer cells. In other words,

> if you drop by your health food store and pick a bottle of E at

> random off the shelf, you may be getting a less effective

> synthetic variety of the vitamin. So read your labels before you

> buy, and look for the natural vitamin E succinate.

>

> There are also a number of good food sources of vitamin E,

> including dark green leafy vegetables, avocados, whole grains,

> nuts, dried beans, vegetable oils, seafood, eggs, and organ

> meats such as liver and kidney.

>

> When it comes to fighting cancer, every little bit helps, so you

> should be aware that there are several other natural supplements

> that help control diseases of the prostate, including milk

> thistle and curcumin (a spice that's also known as turmeric).

> Saw palmetto has also been recognized by the AMA and researchers

> at Harvard as showing great promise in the fight against

> prostate cancer. All of these are relatively inexpensive

> supplements available at most health food stores.

>

> If you're a male 40 or older, I hope you'll make prostate

> awareness and cancer prevention a part of your everyday routine.

> It's easy to do, pretty inexpensive and, for a lot of us, the

> only way we'll end up on a list with the greats like Arnie

> Palmer (the list of survivors, that is).

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I don't know if you have non-small cell lung cancer (NSCLC) or not, but my

understanding is that Iressa (still in trial) has had some impressive

results. I don't think it is a chemo agent. Supposedly not very toxic.

Here's an article on Iressa:

http://www.mesotheliomaweb.org/astra.htm

Check the clinical trials. For NSCLC, there are some trials that sound

non-toxic to me. This includes the Iressa trial which is currently open.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/screen/BrowseAny?recruiting=true & path=%2Fbr

owse%2Fby-condition%2Faz%2FN%2FD002289%2BNon-Small-Cell%2BLung%2BCarcinoma & J

ServSessionIdzone_ct=oyhzh5sfx1

Trials for all diseases:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui?JServSessionIdzone_ct=oyhzh5sfx1

____________________________________________________________________

Also, Life Extension Foundation's current issue is on cancer. I'm very

impressed with them, as they never publish any claims for disease cures

unless at least some verifiable studies exist attesting to the efficacy of a

treatment.

July's issue:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/mag2002_current.html

Curcumin & cancer:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2002/jul2002_report_curcumin_01.html

Life Extension's home page:

www.lef.org

They have quite a few protocols on cancer. You can search on cancer here.

Hope this helps. Best of luck to you!

Miki

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>

> hi every one

> all of you have new and valuable information daily.

> could any one help me, my case is as below:

> i had lung cancer diagnosed in early 201 my oncologist put me on

chemotherapy 3 cycle each after 3 week the he advise the surgery and was

operated on 12 july 201 after that he gave me an other 3 cycle chemo.

> and with that i was declare cure, well after that i discover MGN-3 and

vitamin c & e which i was taking all along.

> now last one week i feel some pain in my lung and went for CT scane and

find out some nodules scars and thickning of pelural the dr say might be it

is re accuring... any one can advise me what to do...

> thanks

>

> On Mon, 14 January 2002, " ronwilson " wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Amazing E

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Researchers have known for some time that vitamin E can help

> > lower the risk of the development and spread of prostate cancer.

> > But until now, it was not known exactly why vitamin E helped

> > while other antioxidant vitamins proved to be ineffective

> > against this disease.

> >

> > First, some background. Let's start with PSA, or

> > prostate-specific antigen, a protein that is the primary marker

> > of the cancer. Men over age 40 are encouraged to have their PSA

> > level checked annually through a simple blood test to assess

> > their risk of prostate cancer. A " normal " PSA level is below 4.0

> > ng/l (nanograms per liter); anything above 10.0 ng/l is

> > considered a cause for concern. That's because higher PSA levels

> > indicate the presence of androgen receptor (AR), a testosterone

> > receptor that must be present in the cell for cancer to grow.

> > When AR is present and active, PSA levels climb.

> >

> > Last month a team of researchers from the University of

> > Rochester reported that their laboratory research of human

> > prostate cancer cell cultures demonstrated a prostate cancer

> > vulnerability that was previously unknown.

> >

> > The researchers discovered that vitamin E inhibits AR activity

> > in prostate cancer cells, which in turn decreases the PSA. More

> > important, however, is the ability of vitamin E to regulate or

> > completely halt the genes responsible for the cancer's ability

> > to grow -- because many of those genes grow only when activated

> > by AR.

> >

> > In fact, the research demonstrated that the PSA levels can drop

> > by as much as 80 to 90 percent when prostate cancer cells are

> > exposed to vitamin E, an indication that the cell growth is

> > slowed considerably. Further, vitamin E decreases the number of

> > cancer cells as well, typically by 25 to 50 percent and

> > sometimes even as high as 90 percent.

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> > No excuses! E is easy to get

> > --------------------------------------------------------------

> >

> > Two other important notes from the University of Rochester team

> > focus on vitamin supplements.

> >

> > First, the researchers found that the effects of vitamin E on

> > prostate cancer may be improved when used with other natural

> > treatments such as selenium and vitamin D. And second - and

> > perhaps more important - the type of vitamin E known as vitamin

> > E succinate (or alpha-tocopheryl succinate) was shown to be the

> > most effective in halting prostate cancer cells. In other words,

> > if you drop by your health food store and pick a bottle of E at

> > random off the shelf, you may be getting a less effective

> > synthetic variety of the vitamin. So read your labels before you

> > buy, and look for the natural vitamin E succinate.

> >

> > There are also a number of good food sources of vitamin E,

> > including dark green leafy vegetables, avocados, whole grains,

> > nuts, dried beans, vegetable oils, seafood, eggs, and organ

> > meats such as liver and kidney.

> >

> > When it comes to fighting cancer, every little bit helps, so you

> > should be aware that there are several other natural supplements

> > that help control diseases of the prostate, including milk

> > thistle and curcumin (a spice that's also known as turmeric).

> > Saw palmetto has also been recognized by the AMA and researchers

> > at Harvard as showing great promise in the fight against

> > prostate cancer. All of these are relatively inexpensive

> > supplements available at most health food stores.

> >

> > If you're a male 40 or older, I hope you'll make prostate

> > awareness and cancer prevention a part of your everyday routine.

> > It's easy to do, pretty inexpensive and, for a lot of us, the

> > only way we'll end up on a list with the greats like Arnie

> > Palmer (the list of survivors, that is).

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Lori:

Hi. Did you happen to find out any other interesting facts about how

to treat seizures in the book? One place you may look for the natural honey

is through a Natural store where all the herbs and viamins are or I know you

could locate some if only you knew where a villiage of Minnites lives for

they use only products that nature provides in thier foods.

Please let me know how things go. Take care and keep in touch.

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Hi

Yes I did find other information helpful some which I knew. There is a

wonderful section on controlling your brain waves but since i;m not the one

with seizures Will is and where he is non verbal I don't think I could teach

him what to do. I still have a few chapters left I will keep you informed as

I read. THere is a larger section on Vitamins,minerals, & Amino Acids helping

and also alternative therapies such as Acupuncture (Which seems to be the

biggest), yoga and massage.

Thanks for the help

Lori

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Hi Elle: If it were me I'd go over to www.Curezine@groups and read

up on the Cancer testimonials there. I do not know much about the zaper but the

Cottage cheese and Flaxseed oil sounds like a winner mixed with fruit to offset

bad taste. The testimonials there are very revealing. Also Beet Juice works i've

been told, research that out also.

Walt

Hello,

I'm completely new to all of this and still don't know an awful lot

about it but am going to hurry up and learn as I have a recurrence of

my IBC (inflammatory breast cancer) and want to try zapping as I've

had it recommended to me by many others.

I want to buy a machine, etc but will have to investigate exactly

what it is I need.....I'm clueless right now!

So, from what I've read so far I can't buy certain things until I've

had a 'test'. My question is that I live in the UK.......does anyone

know where I can go for a syncrometer test in this country or where I

could find the info on the net.....please??? I'm in a hurry because

time is very much of the essence with IBC (the most aggressive of

b/c).

I would apppreciate any feedback and am very grateful to you for any

help/advice you can give me.

Thankyou! I eagerly await your reply.

Lots of love,

Janet.

xx

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Try hepar sulph 30 for a few days --it is homeopathy from the health shop

-for inflammation

Look at www.A1health.co.uk as that has lots of info and beckwithfamily.com for

the Dr Budwig diet

6 tablespoons of fresh flax seed oil and low fat cottage cheese spaced out over

a day.

Mix with fruit.

Chicken soup features in Dr 's Advanced book.

Red Grape juice in the morning on an empty stomach at least two glasses , get a

zapper and I'll find out if the doc does pancreatin as they give that to cystic

fibrosis patients so it must be available. see Dr Kelley on A1health.co.uk you

can download the whole book.

I gave the original grape cure also on the net but I can find it somewhere and

the girl did live and is still living after having pre-menopausal breast cancer.

Love from Liz

Need help

Hello,

I'm completely new to all of this and still don't know an awful lot

about it but am going to hurry up and learn as I have a recurrence of

my IBC (inflammatory breast cancer) and want to try zapping as I've

had it recommended to me by many others.

I want to buy a machine, etc but will have to investigate exactly

what it is I need.....I'm clueless right now!

So, from what I've read so far I can't buy certain things until I've

had a 'test'. My question is that I live in the UK.......does anyone

know where I can go for a syncrometer test in this country or where I

could find the info on the net.....please??? I'm in a hurry because

time is very much of the essence with IBC (the most aggressive of

b/c).

I would apppreciate any feedback and am very grateful to you for any

help/advice you can give me.

Thankyou! I eagerly await your reply.

Lots of love,

Janet.

xx

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Hi Janet..go to this url on here..Arthur; the fellow who builds these Zappers is

a very compassionate friend of mine, and I'm sure he can help you..He may know

where to get help in the UK..

melville ;-)

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Need help

Hello,

I'm completely new to all of this and still don't know an awful lot

about it but am going to hurry up and learn as I have a recurrence of

my IBC (inflammatory breast cancer) and want to try zapping as I've

had it recommended to me by many others.

I want to buy a machine, etc but will have to investigate exactly

what it is I need.....I'm clueless right now!

So, from what I've read so far I can't buy certain things until I've

had a 'test'. My question is that I live in the UK.......does anyone

know where I can go for a syncrometer test in this country or where I

could find the info on the net.....please??? I'm in a hurry because

time is very much of the essence with IBC (the most aggressive of

b/c).

I would apppreciate any feedback and am very grateful to you for any

help/advice you can give me.

Thankyou! I eagerly await your reply.

Lots of love,

Janet.

xx

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Hi Janet

I imagine others will have already given you this direction, but what I

would advise is getting Dr. Hulda 's book, THE CURE FOR ALL

ADVANCED CANCER. At the same time order the 21 day program package if

you can afford it. You will have everything you need except a good

friend to help you carry out the program if you are quite debilitated.

The book and the program are available at www..com

<http://www..com/> . If you have been diagnosed as you say,

don't waste any time. You can and should get express shipping.

Ed Hallsten

Ehalls10@...

Need help

Hello,

I'm completely new to all of this and still don't know an awful lot

about it but am going to hurry up and learn as I have a recurrence of

my IBC (inflammatory breast cancer) and want to try zapping as I've

had it recommended to me by many others.

I want to buy a machine, etc but will have to investigate exactly

what it is I need.....I'm clueless right now!

So, from what I've read so far I can't buy certain things until I've

had a 'test'. My question is that I live in the UK.......does anyone

know where I can go for a syncrometer test in this country or where I

could find the info on the net.....please??? I'm in a hurry because

time is very much of the essence with IBC (the most aggressive of

b/c).

I would apppreciate any feedback and am very grateful to you for any

help/advice you can give me.

Thankyou! I eagerly await your reply.

Lots of love,

Janet.

xx

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Luanne: Sharon gave you the most beneficial advice. I am sure that the hospital will step in and take care of your precious son.

Please sleep in peace - my prayers to you both.

Love -

gina

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Dear Luanne,

Sue them!

[ ] NEED

HELP

Hi all....

I am rather frantic right now....my husband just came home to say that he just

found out...beeped on his way home from work...that our insurance thru the

company will end tomorrow....

they have a broker who will cover for awhile...and he called to find out that

it is very expensive...and they will only cover scripts 50/50....between the

cost of the insurance and Ty's meds.....well we don't make that much

money...sooooo

Do you know if we will be able to get insurance thru a company just by ourselves....from

what I have understood they will not insure Ty....

for the people here who know Ty has quite a few auto-immune diseases...and

between his meds and his Remicade we are in big trouble...

anybody out there with any ideas...please let us know....

Our insurane ends tomorrow...nice of the company to give us so much

notice....so as of Sat we will have no insurance....

Please help.....

thanks...

Luanne Ty's mom

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> Hi all....

>

> I am rather frantic right now....my husband just came home to say

that he

> just found out...beeped on his way home from work...that our

insurance thru

> the company will end tomorrow....

>

Dear Luanne,

Get in touch with the hospital social worker at CHOP. They are

experts in handling these kinds of problems. Even though the

hospital is in PA, since Ty is their patient, I believe they would

also know who to contact in NJ. Ty may be eligible for Medical

Assistance, or the social worker may know of other lower cost

insurances. I want to reassure you that hospital social workers deal

with these types of problems every day.

Love, Sharon G.

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Luanne, My prayer will diffently be with you and your family as you go through this time of trial. Wish I could help but know nothing of insurance. Bless you and I'll be praying. terri

BBNLU@... wrote:

Hi all....I am rather frantic right now....my husband just came home to say that he just found out...beeped on his way home from work...that our insurance thru the company will end tomorrow....they have a broker who will cover for awhile...and he called to find out that it is very expensive...and they will only cover scripts 50/50....between the cost of the insurance and Ty's meds.....well we don't make that much money...soooooDo you know if we will be able to get insurance thru a company just by ourselves....from what I have understood they will not insure Ty....for the people here who know Ty has quite a few auto-immune diseases...and between his meds and his Remicade we are in big trouble...anybody out there with any ideas...please let us know....Our insurane ends tomorrow...nice of the company to give us so much notice....so as of Sat we will have no insurance....Please help.....thanks...Luanne Ty's mom

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Luanne..... that is very discouraging news, just what you neded to

hear...I shall pray for you and the family.

I read Sharon's reply and she has hit it right on the nose. The

hospital's human resource person's job is to help in situations like

this, also when I was accepted for transplant, the Clinic told me once I

ws a patient they had to continue to care for me even if I lost my

insurance, perhaps it is that way there too. I I pray you find an

answer. I also hope Ty is doing well. God bless you.

love jerrry

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>

that our

> insurance thru

> > the company will end tomorrow....

> >

>

> Dear Luanne,

>

> Get in touch with the hospital social worker at CHOP. They are

> experts in handling these kinds of problems. Even though the

> hospital is in PA, since Ty is their patient, I believe they would

> also know who to contact in NJ. Ty may be eligible for Medical

> Assistance, or the social worker may know of other lower cost

> insurances. I want to reassure you that hospital social workers deal

> with these types of problems every day.

>

> Sharon G.

From OR Sharon- How good of you to come up with that information. I would not

have thought to talk to the hospital. I probably would have gone to PCP first.

Thanks Sharon G.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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that our

> insurance thru

> > the company will end tomorrow....

> >

>

> Dear Luanne,

>

> Get in touch with the hospital social worker at CHOP. They are

> experts in handling these kinds of problems. Even though the

> hospital is in PA, since Ty is their patient, I believe they would

> also know who to contact in NJ. Ty may be eligible for Medical

> Assistance, or the social worker may know of other lower cost

> insurances. I want to reassure you that hospital social workers deal

> with these types of problems every day.

>

> Sharon G.

From OR Sharon- How good of you to come up with that information. I would not

have thought to talk to the hospital. I probably would have gone to PCP first.

Thanks Sharon G.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I think it is fairly common to experience a loss in mental "sharpness", at least I noticed it in my own treatment. The things your dr is telling you seem very confusing to me. It seemed to take me a month or so to get back to normal after discontinuing the treatment. -dz-Kay <jetticus@...> wrote:

I posted this on another group and I think I see some same names here so I thought I should explain why it's at both places. But it is acurate for both groups. If I remember correctly when I joined here the board was very slow and everyone seemed to know on another rather well and I didn't really feel llike I fit in. So now I'm back, sounding pretty silly to myself......... I keep telling the Dr.s etc that I'm not thinking like I used to, but they don't seem concerned, of course they didn't know me before. I was hoping ot meet others who can relate to what I'm feeling or to at least see if it's me being an annonaly or if this is typical. Has anyone else seemed to suffer from their thinking processes being slowed? Or have I just become stupid all on my own? >G>KayHi, I haven't been deeping up with the

posts on here for a quite awhile. Actually, I can't even remember the last time I checked it outhere. Sooooo, please excuse me if you've all had this up forconversation before but I really need some advice I can only get fromother Peg users. The only support group anywhere near me is reallytoo far for me to get to at night (when they meet).So here goes........I spoke to the RN in charge of my case severaldays before Christmas and he told me that I could skip a few shots togive myself a break. The fatique and all is just too depressing.While on the phone he pulled out my last blood work and said he hadreally good news for me, that the virus was not being picked up onthe last test. But then he said something to the effect that I neededanother test done that looks more closely for the virus. Anyone knowwhat that would be?And, I never did the Ribavarin (sp?), and now that I'm going to stopthe Peg at least for a month, can

anyone tell me how long it wouldtake for me to feel the effects of NOT having Peg in my system?I am stage 4 Dr Child's level B or C, they have been very hazy onthis point with me, whicn of course makes me suspicious. After thefirst few weeks on Peg the side effects changed to things like hairloss instead of that wicked flu type stuck in bed for 2 days crap.And my last big question is something that's been bothering me forsome time now, really bothering me a lot!. Years ago I had a Dr whosaid I had auto immune and hep c, he had me on steroids and Immuranfor 17 1/2 years. He used to look at my finger tips all the time andtold me that they would blunt out when the diease progressed to theno reversal stage. I switched Dr.s since that first one had somepersonal crisis and seemed to me to be going off his rocker (me andmany hospital staff), anyway my finger tips are now blunting and I'mreally getting scared. Was he right? Do I still

have some other hep?like auto immune - or whatever they're calling it these days?I would so appreciate if someone could please help me out withthese questions. I'm not in a very good state of mind of late.My mail is jetticus@y... and I will check this boarddaily for awhile.Kay

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:26:54 -0000, you wrote:

>I was referred to this group for some help. I'm 26 years old and

>believe I have low testosterone. I've haven't had it checked yet,

>that is why I came here to ask what I should do. I used to take ZMA

>and Tribulus when I was 22 and they made me a raging ball of

>testosterone 24/7. I actually had to quit taking them because it made

>me way way way to crazy. Back then I had good testosterone to begin

>with, but I was taking them as part of my workout program to try to

>build muscle. Now 4 years later, after accepting the fact that I have

>had no libido for 2 years, I decided to buy them again and see if

>they would bring back the fire, but now they have no effect on me. I

>have all the symptoms of low testosterone. I wanted to ask about

>getting checked. Do I need to go to a doctor first for a blood test,

>then go to a urologist. Or, do I just go to a urologist first and let

>them do the test. I know they are supposed to check your test first

>thing in the morning. I really need some advice. Please help.

Me personally - I'd recommend seeing a Doc and getting some numbers -

including estrogen levels. - before buying this stuff. (You'll find a

significant number of android users here that developed their

permanent conditions from screwing with their systems for esthetics.)

It's a fine tune clock easily knocked out whack through mishandling or

accident.

Get the numbers and come back. I'd strongly urge staying away from

self medication especially in the absence of lab work.

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