Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Mine never took more than one of each enzyme with any meal- and that was at 102 lbs. You may want to cut back and see if he improves. -GA Reactions starting Hi all: I think the honeymoon period is over for . Started out slowing with enzymes. (i think slowly, about 2 1/2 weeks in) did not see any negative reactions really. Up to 2 pep & pz breakfast and dinner. 1 pep and pz lunch and 1/2 NF breakfast only as this seems to keep him up at night if given with dinner. Up to 2 candex am and pm. Yesterday the aggression started, (somewhat provoked) as I have said his OCD is really bad and he has a thing about the blinds being opened and closed at certain times of the day 5:30 am (even on weekends, and everyones not just his) and 3:00 afternoons. I have tried reasoning with him and have just let it go, but yesterday was such a beautiful day that I wanted to make sure the blinds stayed open so the standoff began. He got quite aggressive and ended up in a Tantrum that resulted in a headache and bed for him. He just cant get himself out of the tantrum once it starts. So today I didnt push it with him and he came home from school laughing and in minutes was loud and growling and demanding. So as I said I think the honeymoon is over and the reactions have started. I am still waiting for the Culturelle which should be here any day. I am looking into the broad spectrum vitamin and minerals but have been told he would need approximately 7 tsp each meal which comes out to about 3 shipments a month of Spectrum II for his size. Not ruling that out but that seems like so much. Ill keep you informed. Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 If you are giving 1/2 No-Fenol once a day, and have added 2 capsules Candex twice a day, I would consider cutting back on something here. I would also consider working out the enzyme dose before adding another supplement. For the tantrums, the book " The Explosive Child " by Ross Greene, Ph.D. might be helpful when biomedicalapproaches are not. The book is geared toward parents of inflexible children. It is a different approach than most of us are used to, but as some children get older, typical methods of discipline (such as Time-Out) are not always the best way. I have found it to be a helpful resource. You can read reviews at www.amazon.com. Dr. Greene's site is http://www.explosivechild.com/. > > Hi all: I think the honeymoon period is over for . Started out > slowing with enzymes. (i think slowly, about 2 1/2 weeks in) did not > see any negative reactions really. Up to 2 pep & pz breakfast and > dinner. 1 pep and pz lunch and 1/2 NF breakfast only as this seems > to keep him up at night if given with dinner. Up to 2 candex am and > pm. Yesterday the aggression started, (somewhat provoked) as I have > said his OCD is really bad and he has a thing about the blinds being > opened and closed at certain times of the day 5:30 am (even on > weekends, and everyones not just his) and 3:00 afternoons. I have > tried reasoning with him and have just let it go, but yesterday was > such a beautiful day that I wanted to make sure the blinds stayed > open so the standoff began. He got quite aggressive and ended up in > a Tantrum that resulted in a headache and bed for him. He just cant > get himself out of the tantrum once it starts. So today I didnt > push it with him and he came home from school laughing and in > minutes was loud and growling and demanding. So as I said I think > the honeymoon is over and the reactions have started. I am still > waiting for the Culturelle which should be here any day. I am > looking into the broad spectrum vitamin and minerals but have been > told he would need approximately 7 tsp each meal which comes out to > about 3 shipments a month of Spectrum II for his size. Not ruling > that out but that seems like so much. Ill keep you informed. Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I think this is the way Im going to go. I will be cutting back on the Candex for sure as the reaction seems to have started with this increase. The No Fenol also seems to be a bit of a problem so I think I may stop this until he's been on the PEP and PZ longer. He is not on any diet restrictions so I believe the 2 PEP and 2 PZ is what I was supposed to be shooting for. I appreciate all the input, I can use all the help I can get. Thank you Eileen Also I was just reading up on the bacteria in a book (title escapes me right now) and it was talking about Culturelle being used to treat an overgrowth of bacteria. Should I even be using the Candex if I want to use the Culturelle. I thought I recd a posting awhile back about using both. I am getting a little confused. >From: " Kelley " <cindykelley1@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Reactions starting >Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:44:04 -0000 > > >If you are giving 1/2 No-Fenol once a day, and have added 2 capsules >Candex twice a day, I would consider cutting back on something here. > >I would also consider working out the enzyme dose before adding >another supplement. > >For the tantrums, the book " The Explosive Child " by Ross Greene, >Ph.D. might be helpful when biomedicalapproaches are not. The book >is geared toward parents of inflexible children. It is a different >approach than most of us are used to, but as some children get older, >typical methods of discipline (such as Time-Out) are not always the >best way. I have found it to be a helpful resource. You can read >reviews at www.amazon.com. Dr. Greene's site is >http://www.explosivechild.com/. > > > > > > > > Hi all: I think the honeymoon period is over for . Started >out > > slowing with enzymes. (i think slowly, about 2 1/2 weeks in) did >not > > see any negative reactions really. Up to 2 pep & pz breakfast and > > dinner. 1 pep and pz lunch and 1/2 NF breakfast only as this seems > > to keep him up at night if given with dinner. Up to 2 candex am >and > > pm. Yesterday the aggression started, (somewhat provoked) as I >have > > said his OCD is really bad and he has a thing about the blinds >being > > opened and closed at certain times of the day 5:30 am (even on > > weekends, and everyones not just his) and 3:00 afternoons. I have > > tried reasoning with him and have just let it go, but yesterday was > > such a beautiful day that I wanted to make sure the blinds stayed > > open so the standoff began. He got quite aggressive and ended up >in > > a Tantrum that resulted in a headache and bed for him. He just >cant > > get himself out of the tantrum once it starts. So today I didnt > > push it with him and he came home from school laughing and in > > minutes was loud and growling and demanding. So as I said I think > > the honeymoon is over and the reactions have started. I am still > > waiting for the Culturelle which should be here any day. I am > > looking into the broad spectrum vitamin and minerals but have been > > told he would need approximately 7 tsp each meal which comes out to > > about 3 shipments a month of Spectrum II for his size. Not ruling > > that out but that seems like so much. Ill keep you informed. Eileen > > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The first time I read your post, I missed that you are just 2 1/2 weeks into using the enzymes. Your son may be going through some peptide withdrawal syndrome, especially since he is not GFCF. If it is withdrawal, you may have some more difficult days until things get better. You can cut back on the Peptizyde and go back up gradually. I think I'd try to get him used to a smaller amount of the enzymes with all meals before moving to the larger dose you are at (Pep and ZP). If you still have problems, post again because some further tweaking of the dose or type of enzymes might be needed. I don't know what Culturelle says about giving their product with enzymes, but some companies believe it is fine to give enzymes and probiotics together. If you are wondering if both are needed - you'll just have to try them seperately and together for comparison. It took a long time to find the best way for my son to take probiotics - he can take a 1/2 capsule of his probiotic once every few days. > I think this is the way Im going to go. I will be cutting back on the Candex > for sure as the reaction seems to have started with this increase. The No > Fenol also seems to be a bit of a problem so I think I may stop this until > he's been on the PEP and PZ longer. He is not on any diet restrictions so I > believe the 2 PEP and 2 PZ is what I was supposed to be shooting for. I > appreciate all the input, I can use all the help I can get. Thank you > Eileen > > Also I was just reading up on the bacteria in a book (title escapes me right > now) and it was talking about Culturelle being used to treat an overgrowth > of bacteria. Should I even be using the Candex if I want to use the > Culturelle. I thought I recd a posting awhile back about using both. I am > getting a little confused. 1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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