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Actually Jen, you absolutely positively CAN lose plenty of weight if you only exercise 3 days a week, 30 minutes at a time and have a calorie deficit. I lost over 40 pounds with just dietary changes and not exercising at all. I was definitely not doing a less than 1,000 calorie diet either (I was doing the WW plan which is very well balanced and endorsed by doctors all over the place. I don't mean that to be a commercial, sorry if it sounds that way but I know someone will wonder how I did it, that's how.) I have many members who are doing the same thing I did, not exercising but still managing to lose a lot of weight. I try to convince them to add exercise in for health reasons if nothing else and sometimes am successful but much of the time, unfortunately, am not but the point is, they are losing weight, lots of it, despite the lack of regular aerobic activity. Exercise can help speed weight loss but even that effect doesn't happen immediately, as much as people want it to. It is most helpful, at least as far as weight is concerned, long-term because of the changes in your metabolism that help you to lose and later maintain weight. (Darcy or Tonya, please correct me if this assumption is incorrect.) However, it is not essential for losing weight and 3 days a week for 30 minutes is very healthy and respectable too for weight loss and general health, especially if it is consistent.

I answered this only because I felt it was important to challenge that information. You will continue to believe whatever you want and I'm not interested in arguing with you about it and will not continue to participate in this thread if that is where it ends up. I also have no interest in embarrassing you or making you feel like you are being personally attacked. I'm sorry if you feel that you are, I certainly do not intend it that way and I'm sure no one else does either, your perceptions are your own though and I'm not going to discuss those either. I'm only going to discuss facts, including the one that says you absolutely can lose weight if you eat less and exercise only 3 days a week, 30 minutes at a time or less than that too. When people complain to me that doing just that isn't working for them then almost all the time they are eating much more than they think they are (and they're not journaling so they don't really know what they're eating, so much of what so many of us do is just mindless eating) and there is not really a calorie deficit. In other cases, they are not working nearly as hard as they think they are and again, are not creating much of a calorie deficit. With a very few others they're working harder than they think and are not eating enough to fuel their bodies well enough to burn off fat. And finally, one other group I see creates a calorie deficit but eats so much junk instead of good stuff that their weight loss creeps along because their bodies are not being properly fueled (I fell into that group the last time I was losing weight). I am not suggesting you fall into any of those groups, Jen. I don't know what you're doing and I'm not asking either. I'm just telling other people who are interested, what my experiences helping people lose weight have been. I'm not a guru who knows everything, I'm still learning as I go along but these are the patterns I'm seeing and I'm still exploring how to help people address them and change them. Exercise is wonderful for all kinds of reasons, including helping weight loss, but it gets a lot more press when it comes to weight loss than what I think the harder and more valuable work is (for that purpose), which is changing lifelong relationships with food (and that's a whole different discussion topic which I'm not trying to start).

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I just don't know why all of you insist on putting a percentage of what has to be done to lose weight. If I only exercise 3 days a week for 30 minutes AND have a calorie deficet I will not lose that much weight or any at all. If I have a calorie deficet AND exercise 30 to 60 minutes 5 or 6 days a week I will lose more weight because I'm burning more calories.

You can always exercise more (if you have the time) but you can't cut your calories down to say 1,000 a day and still lose weight. If I did that I might gain weight because my body would go into starvation mode.

I don't think you guys read all of my posts because I said that I'm doing BOTH - eating healthy (with a calorie deficet) AND exercising.

There are other reasons to exercise besides weight loss. I'm tired of some people on here getting on my case because I talk about doing cardio exercise...DUH this is an exercise site specifically a video exercise site. I mean how many times do I have to say that I'm eating healthy!

By the way, I've cut way down on my diet coke consumption!

Jen > I think that the best approach is to watch what you eat AND exercise, not do> 80% diet and 20% of exercise. I found some studies say that diet is more> important and other studies say exercise is more important.

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This is TOTALLY incorrect! I am a Weight Watchers leader and we focus on both!!!! In the past, there was much more emphasis on dietary changes without much on exercise but in the last 5 years or so that has changed tremendously!! Every few weeks the discussion topics from our corporate office are about exercise and ways to make it enjoyable and a lifelong habit. One of good health guidelines we teach every new member is to get at least 30 minutes of activity in on most days. And actually, WW does not even focus on "dieting." We focus on replacing unhelpful habits, attitudes and relationships with food and exercise with healthy ones that will help people to not only lose weight but transform their whole way of thinking about food and exercise so that they can keep the weight off for a lifetime. It is not a diet plan, it is a lifestyle plan. Next time, please check your facts before posting.

Re: measurements Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:09 AM

i have found this thread very interesting! ! there are many approaches to weight loss to be sure. imo, a lot of it depends on the metabolism of the individual. the trick is to find your own formula for success. for me, a person with a slower metabolism, my diet has to be fairly strict--any extra calories will result in weight gain--even if i am exercising. because i have been in weight watchers since the fall and have lost weight i can say that the percentage given for a ratio of weight loss and exercise is probably a well researched conclusion (since they have been collecting info since the 1960's).stacey

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One way to check your facts that I should have mentioned is to go to www.weightwatchers.com (or, in Canada, www.weightwatchers.ca). I'm pretty sure non-members can see some of the articles in the science center and fitness areas too.

I can't count how many times members have told me their doctors either suggested WW or said they were really glad the person chose WW because it is such a healthy program in terms of dietary issues as well as exercise, lifestyle and emotional factors too. That isn't because it is a "diet" program either. Check it out for yourself sometime, that's another great way to check your facts. You can find a meeting on the website and you can attend your first one free to see what it is really about. I think there is a free trial promotional offer to be an online only member for a month or so right now too if meetings aren't your thing.

(who is shutting off the computer and going to bed much too late but I could NOT let that go)

Re: measurements Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:09 AM

i have found this thread very interesting! ! there are many approaches to weight loss to be sure. imo, a lot of it depends on the metabolism of the individual. the trick is to find your own formula for success. for me, a person with a slower metabolism, my diet has to be fairly strict--any extra calories will result in weight gain--even if i am exercising. because i have been in weight watchers since the fall and have lost weight i can say that the percentage given for a ratio of weight loss and exercise is probably a well researched conclusion (since they have been collecting info since the 1960's).stacey

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On June 13, 2008, your wrote:

“There is no set starting amount for Lugol's. It is where ever you would like to start. 6.25 mgs / drop. I started at 50 mgs - others start slower. The amount of water for Lugol's doesn't matter. Steph†"ladybugsandbees"

Going by your calculations, as per the quote from your mail, a 100mg per day would be about 16 drops of Lugol’s daily. Right or not? Reading Dr. Brownstein’s book on iodine, I note that he takes 100mg/day.

Is the 16-drop dose not too high?

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