The battle cry is out

[Guest guest]

LOL Sperb I wish I could but he is the one who does the approvals for the

insurance doctor, hes not my doctor I wouldnt have him.

Pat Iurato

[Guest guest]

LOL Sperb I wish I could but he is the one who does the approvals for the

insurance doctor, hes not my doctor I wouldnt have him.

Pat Iurato

[Guest guest]

You can't dump him, can you? Isn't this for insurance approval or am I

wrong? The letter that Dr. R sends us via e-mail to submit to our insurance

company should answer any questions this guy has. It just don't make any

sense that these insurance company's would rather pay for all the expenses

that go along with obesity, instead of covering a ONE TIME operation. I just

don't get it. Without the operation we are looking at thousands and

thousands of dollars somewhere down the road. And I'm not even talking about

our quality of life and self-esteem from being obese. They just don't care.

Plain and simple. They (insurance company's) will gladly take our money for

the monthly premium, but when it comes to actually cover a life threatening

illness such as obesity... they won't do it. It makes me so angry.

I haven't heard anything from my insurance company, but I'm certain they will

deny me. I'm not even going to argue with them. I'll just make a visit to

my bank and borrow the money.

Unfortunately, I don't have any advise for you, but I do want to wish you the

best of luck. I do believe, however, that somehow it will work out for you.

Pray about it. God will listen and lead you in the right direction. I'm

thinking of you.

Your WLS Friend,

Shelley

[Guest guest]

You can't dump him, can you? Isn't this for insurance approval or am I

wrong? The letter that Dr. R sends us via e-mail to submit to our insurance

company should answer any questions this guy has. It just don't make any

sense that these insurance company's would rather pay for all the expenses

that go along with obesity, instead of covering a ONE TIME operation. I just

don't get it. Without the operation we are looking at thousands and

thousands of dollars somewhere down the road. And I'm not even talking about

our quality of life and self-esteem from being obese. They just don't care.

Plain and simple. They (insurance company's) will gladly take our money for

the monthly premium, but when it comes to actually cover a life threatening

illness such as obesity... they won't do it. It makes me so angry.

I haven't heard anything from my insurance company, but I'm certain they will

deny me. I'm not even going to argue with them. I'll just make a visit to

my bank and borrow the money.

Unfortunately, I don't have any advise for you, but I do want to wish you the

best of luck. I do believe, however, that somehow it will work out for you.

Pray about it. God will listen and lead you in the right direction. I'm

thinking of you.

Your WLS Friend,

Shelley

[Guest guest]

Pat,

Yesterday was the worst day for me, and I know there will be more. I just

started my journey to the dance. I saw my PCP yesterday and like you he did

not support this, NOR would he even listen to me. He said he would do the

letter for me but not support it.

I fired him and I hired another PCP today. I have to have support from both

my local physician and my family for this to be a success for me.

Let me know if EVERYBODY out there agrees!

Pre-Op

Sonya

[Guest guest]

Pat,

Yesterday was the worst day for me, and I know there will be more. I just

started my journey to the dance. I saw my PCP yesterday and like you he did

not support this, NOR would he even listen to me. He said he would do the

letter for me but not support it.

I fired him and I hired another PCP today. I have to have support from both

my local physician and my family for this to be a success for me.

Let me know if EVERYBODY out there agrees!

Pre-Op

Sonya

[Guest guest]

Thank you Shelly,

You are right , I cant dump him , he belongs to the insurance company. It is

so ridiculous isnt it.

Pat Iurato

[Guest guest]

Thank you Shelly,

You are right , I cant dump him , he belongs to the insurance company. It is

so ridiculous isnt it.

Pat Iurato

[Guest guest]

YEAH SONYA!!! I agree with you 110%. You go girl!

Shelley

[Guest guest]

Sonya you did the right thing, my PCP is a great guy and supports me all the

way. Its the insurance idiot that is giving me the hard time.

Pat

[Guest guest]

YEAH SONYA!!! I agree with you 110%. You go girl!

Shelley

[Guest guest]

Sonya you did the right thing, my PCP is a great guy and supports me all the

way. Its the insurance idiot that is giving me the hard time.

Pat

[Guest guest]

Amber, I don't know of a list. But it might be helpful to have a copy of

your manuel to leave at the doctor's office for him (her) to look over IF you

are truly concerned he (she) may pooh-pooh it. You'll have to admit, its a

lot to digest ~¿ô

I have CIGNA, a HMO and from what I understand is NOT the easiest to get

approval from. But my new doctor says....she doesn't see a problem.

Let me know how things go with ya...just stand firm.

Sonya

[Guest guest]

Amber, I don't know of a list. But it might be helpful to have a copy of

your manuel to leave at the doctor's office for him (her) to look over IF you

are truly concerned he (she) may pooh-pooh it. You'll have to admit, its a

lot to digest ~¿ô

I have CIGNA, a HMO and from what I understand is NOT the easiest to get

approval from. But my new doctor says....she doesn't see a problem.

Let me know how things go with ya...just stand firm.

Sonya

[Guest guest]

Well my insurance doctor who does the approvals is a " D--K " (sounds

like stick). He does not believe in gastric surgery for obesity and

is now making me jump thru hoops. I went thru this two years ago

trying to get approved for surgery, I got so disgusted and fed up and

I gave up. Not this time, he will have a battle on his hands.

Now I have to get a MORE thorough nutritional assesment and he wants

the doctor to tell him what kind of EATING DISORDER I have. Why is it

then when you are obese some idiots think you have an eating

disorder. I know this is a trick question and if I answer wrong, he

will say that the so called eating disorder will not be helped by

surgery. I need help Doc.........

Please tell me what to tell these people. Any one have any ideas.

Pat Iurato

Nevada pre op

[Guest guest]

Dump him.

Love, Sperb

>>> iseeu25232@... 12/06/00 07:55PM >>>

Well my insurance doctor who does the approvals is a " D--K " (sounds

like stick). He does not believe in gastric surgery for obesity and

is now making me jump thru hoops. I went thru this two years ago

trying to get approved for surgery, I got so disgusted and fed up and

I gave up. Not this time, he will have a battle on his hands.

Now I have to get a MORE thorough nutritional assesment and he wants

the doctor to tell him what kind of EATING DISORDER I have. Why is it

then when you are obese some idiots think you have an eating

disorder. I know this is a trick question and if I answer wrong, he

will say that the so called eating disorder will not be helped by

surgery. I need help Doc.........

Please tell me what to tell these people. Any one have any ideas.

Pat Iurato

Nevada pre op

[Guest guest]

Dump him.

Love, Sperb

>>> iseeu25232@... 12/06/00 07:55PM >>>

Well my insurance doctor who does the approvals is a " D--K " (sounds

like stick). He does not believe in gastric surgery for obesity and

is now making me jump thru hoops. I went thru this two years ago

trying to get approved for surgery, I got so disgusted and fed up and

I gave up. Not this time, he will have a battle on his hands.

Now I have to get a MORE thorough nutritional assesment and he wants

the doctor to tell him what kind of EATING DISORDER I have. Why is it

then when you are obese some idiots think you have an eating

disorder. I know this is a trick question and if I answer wrong, he

will say that the so called eating disorder will not be helped by

surgery. I need help Doc.........

Please tell me what to tell these people. Any one have any ideas.

Pat Iurato

Nevada pre op

[Guest guest]

Sonya, I have an appt to see my PCP on 12/19, when I

plan to propose this surgery to him. I have been

considering this surgery for almost 2yrs and have

already had one PCP " pooh-pooh " the idea. My question

is, is Dr Rutledge ever willing to disclose the names of

PCPs for a particular insurance group who DO or have

supported the surgery? That would certainly save alot of

time dealing with naysayers. I look forward to being

part of this list-you all seem so supportive and

wonderful!

Amber

> Pat,

> Yesterday was the worst day for me, and I know there will be more. I just

> started my journey to the dance. I saw my PCP yesterday and like you he did

> not support this, NOR would he even listen to me. He said he would do the

> letter for me but not support it.

> I fired him and I hired another PCP today. I have to have support from both

> my local physician and my family for this to be a success for me.

> Let me know if EVERYBODY out there agrees!

> Pre-Op

> Sonya

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sonya, I have an appt to see my PCP on 12/19, when I

plan to propose this surgery to him. I have been

considering this surgery for almost 2yrs and have

already had one PCP " pooh-pooh " the idea. My question

is, is Dr Rutledge ever willing to disclose the names of

PCPs for a particular insurance group who DO or have

supported the surgery? That would certainly save alot of

time dealing with naysayers. I look forward to being

part of this list-you all seem so supportive and

wonderful!

Amber

> Pat,

> Yesterday was the worst day for me, and I know there will be more. I just

> started my journey to the dance. I saw my PCP yesterday and like you he did

> not support this, NOR would he even listen to me. He said he would do the

> letter for me but not support it.

> I fired him and I hired another PCP today. I have to have support from both

> my local physician and my family for this to be a success for me.

> Let me know if EVERYBODY out there agrees!

> Pre-Op

> Sonya

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pat: FIND A NEW DOCTOR!!!! What's he's doing is ridiculous!!!!

[Guest guest]

Pat: FIND A NEW DOCTOR!!!! What's he's doing is ridiculous!!!!

[Guest guest]

Is Dynamite out of the question? How about Arsenic? OK OK . Just trying to

resolve this problem!!! PhillyJude

[Guest guest]

Is Dynamite out of the question? How about Arsenic? OK OK . Just trying to

resolve this problem!!! PhillyJude

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I had a psych eval done already but fortunately it is by a doctor I know

personally. I will just have her do that. Its a great idea that I hadnt

thought about yet.

Thanks again

Pat Iurato

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I had a psych eval done already but fortunately it is by a doctor I know

personally. I will just have her do that. Its a great idea that I hadnt

thought about yet.

Thanks again

Pat Iurato